President trump is ending the daca program. We have the Global Resources of cnn covering it all. Lets begin with cnns will ripley in north korea where hes been more than a z do en times. Hes live in tokyo with the latest news out of the region. Hi, dave, were hearing that a week that already began with a bang can get more tense. There are reports sought of south korea that theyre observing what are called continuous signs that the regime led by kim jong un will be led by another Ballistic Missile. It could be the find they launched over hokkaido last week, or it could be an intercontinental ball lays tick missile. South korea believes the trajectory could be the pacific ocean, which includes the u. S. South territory of guam. It would travel a further distance as opposed to other tests where the missiles have gone up to a very High Altitude but havent traveled that far of a distance, often coming down in the waters off of japan. This would not be entirely a surprise. North korea has been saying for weeks they are preparing to launch more missiles from the pacific. They say last weeks launch was aimed at containing guam, home to the air force base and more than 160,000 u. S. Citizens. If they follow through, it would be after releasing images of their Supreme Leader standing in front of a miniaturized Nuclear Warhead that they say could go on a Ballistic Missile. Planning to launch possibly by saturday, a major holiday, the day the country was founded. For them to do this perhaps less than a week of a their large of the nuclear test to date would take depositions to a whole new level. South korea, meanwhile, showing its military might by simulating an attack on the norths main nuclear test site. Cnn is live in seoul with all the breaking details. Reporter we know theres been a series of live fire drills by south korea. Fighter jets have been involved, surface to surface Ballistic Missiles. Its all been very visual, sending a strong message to north korea. The simulation was they were attacking north koreas assets off the east coast of the korean peninsula. Also hearing from the French Ministry this was showing a willingness to target the leadership. Its a very thinly veiled threat to kim jong un saying this is the capability we have to take out the leadership if need be. Also hearing from the south korea side they want the u. S. To set more strategic assets, military strategic assets to the region like Aircraft Carriers, bombers, we could be seeing that within the next few days if south korea gets its way. It certainly wants more shows of force with the u. S. , basically to show the u. S. South Korean Alliance is strong. When you think about whats happening in the political arena, u. S. Trump saying that south korea is talking about appeasement with north korea. Thats not gone down well here. Not going down well at all. President trump and his National Security closely watching the situation. Defense secretary james mattis delivering a stern warning to north korea from the white house. Cnns Barbara Starr live at the pentagon with the latest. Barbara, good morning to you. The defense secretary very stern, very rarely speaks out directly to the cameras. What do you make of his reaction . Good morning, dave. The question now still unanswered. What would the Trump Administration do next . No wrd yet if they will, in fact, send an Aircraft Carrier of bomber aircraft as the South Koreans suggesting. In fact, President Trump continuing to try to pull the lever of trade to pressure other countries to move against north korea. The president tweeting, and i quote, the United States is considering, in addition to other options, stopping all trade with any country doing business with north korea. That would have fairly significant global implications. As you say, defense secretary mattis coming out of the white house, reaffirming the ironclad commitment to south korea, if they are nervous about it, also very much on the military page. Have a listen. Any threat to the United States or its territory including guam or our allies will be met with a massive military response, a response both effective and overwhelming. We are not looking the the total annihilation of a country, namely north korea, but as i said, we have many options to do so. Annihilation not of north korea, per se, but perhaps kim jong un and his regime. The u. S. Position is if kim were to attack the u. S. , would retaliate. Barbara, thank you for your reporting. Lets bring back now will ripley. Joining us is gordon chang, the author of nuclear showdown, north korea takes on the world and columnist of the daley beast and mark lang from the seventh arm. Great to have all of you experts with us. Gordon chang, lets talk about real options today. What are the real options . Theres way too much war talk. I think how do we use our economy and Financial System to deny kim from building missiles and nukes. How do we do that . I think we talk about embargo. The last sanctions adopted on august 5 only restrict a small portion, in this case a third of north koreas legal exports, and it doesnt even take into account the stuff that north korea is sending to iran which is about 2 billion, 3 billing eun a year. What we need to do is go after the oil and 5u8 the other things that keeps kim in business. If the wrats is going to show political will, and i think essentially the chinese and the nort North Koreans are going to step back and would be more amenable to talking. Yes cannot allow the chinese to, for instance, use our Financial System to launder money for the North Koreans. We cant allow them to send material to the North Koreans or supply the most recent Ballistic Missile material. We need to use our economy rather than the military to serve this. We dont want historys last war. What can we do to pressure china into cutting off all trade with north korea, in particular fuel . Well, the United States could impose or continue to impose its own sanctions on chinese companies, banks, for example, cutting them off from access to Global Financial markets which would infuriate beijing. The United States is also continuing to put on the table this potential military option which makes beijing very uncomfortable. There have been editorials in the global times saying if the United States were to launch a preemptive strike that china should actually step in. So the rhett writ heating up. If beijing were to think that the u. S. Were serious about a military option, would they be more willing to go beyond what theyve done over the last many years that has proven to be very ineffective. I was in north korea last week, we see whine these cars, chinese products on store shelves. China has a lot of leverage, but the u. S. Has leverage over china given the hundreds of billions in trade. You saw the tweet from President Trump, by the way, saying the u. S. Might consider cutting off trade from all countries that trade with north korea. Obviously that was a thinly failed threat there. Will, youve taken to north korea about this numerous times. Is there anything that will stop their Nuclear Program . They say absolutely not. Ive asked the specific question, even if north korea were to be cut off completely by china. If china were to stop trading, stop dealing with north korea economically, north korea says they would survive. They point to the great famine of the 1990s when there were hundreds of thousands of people dying of starvation, yet the regime, despite predictions it would collapse, it remained firmly in control. They were still developing and launching missiles and conducted the First Nuclear test after coming out of that famine back in 2006. Clearly north korea feels theyre more selfsufficient than they were back then. The famine was the result of the economic mismanagement, the collapse of the soviet union as well as a series of natural disasters. They say theyve been through bad times before and theyll do it again. They say the last thing theyll cut is their Nuclear Program. General hurt ling, mattis says were not talking about total annihilation but were capable of it. And what Barbara Starr ended on, where she said the idea isnt necessarily to an nye light north korea, but mabel the regi regime, maybe the kim jong un regime. Is that possible . Its probably not. What i suggest is secretary was secretary mattis was very precise and succinct in the words he used. That was for a purpose, to buy time for the other elements of National Power. Hes saying you stlet en us or our territories or allies and were coming after you. He didnt talk about new test, new launches into the middle of the ocean. He talked about specific threats to u. S. National territories or allies. With that on the table, i believe that puts kim jong un back on his heels a little bit. He may continue to do the missile test. May even do another nuclear test, but he realizes hes got to be very careful anywhere he launches those things. That allows the other elements of National Power to start working. Here is the thing. Nothing has changed in terms of the motivations of north korea or china in this particular regard. North korea is still very much interested in having a military strength. They want recognition on the world stage and want to try and improve their economy. China will not do anything unless they see they have some advantages here. We have to look at the motivations of our allies in this country as well as our foes in order to get something done. Just the blustering and the brashness wont do that. We have to bring allies into the tent as weve done before and address the motivations of these countries to see what they will do to change their approach. China, to increase embargoes, north korea to stop these kind of launches. Gordon, to that point, about our allies, in particular south korea, 10 million South Koreans there in seoul and the president is tweeting about appeasement, cutting off trade with south korea. How does that impact this entire situation . Well, the south korean leadership a few hours ago wasnt very happy. Clearly this is, we dont like south korea week, because also just a few days ago before the nuclear tests, there were all these reports circulating in washington that the president wanted to send a notice of termination of the u. S. South korea free trade agreement. Thats not a good idea, even though the South Koreans have been cheating on that deal. This is the worst week to do that because we need, as general hertling said, our allies on board. Panel, thank you all very much. Obviously well be covering this top story and whatever breaking developments throughout the morning. To our other top story. Sources tell cnn that President Trump is expecting to end the program that helps young immigrants from being deported. Joe johns is at the white house. Reporter the announcement is expected tomorrow ending daca in this way, with a sixmonth pause. It would fulfill President Trumps longstanding campaign promises, putting the burden of sustaining the program on among other the speakers of the house. We love the dreamers. We love everybody. Reporter sources say President Trump is expected to end an baemera program who were brought to the u. S. From being deported. The issue one of the president s Core Campaign promises. I want the children growing up in the United States to be dreamers also. Theyre not dreaming right now. Reporter his plan would affect some 800,000 dreamers studying and working in the u. S. Two sources with knowledge of the president s thinking says the president is planning to delay his action for six months giving Congress Time to come up with a legislative replacement to daca. A growing number of republicans are speaking out against the move. These kids dont know any other home. I think President Trump agrees with fixing this. Its got to be up to the legislature. There are 800,000 daca kids, kids brought across the border. The median age is 6 years old for those 800,000 when they came across the border. They should not be punished for the since of their parents. Senator Bernie Sanders says ending the program would be one of the ugliest and cruellest decisions ever mate. While king praised it as a way to restore rule of law. Well deal with daca at heart. I deal with a lot of politicians and have to con tins them what im saying is right. The daca situation is a very, very difficult thing for me. I love these kids. Reporter before leaving the white house, mr. Trumps predecessor vowed not to remain silent if he went after dreamers. Efforts to round up kids who have grown up here and for all practical purposes are American Kids and send them someplace else when they love this country getting an outcome on daca has been made more of a threat by ten attorneys claiming to take it to court if there is not a decision made by tomorrow, september 5th. Joe johns live at the white house. Ahead, what will the president s decision mean for dreamers, some 800,000 in this country and how will republicans in Congress Respond . Well discuss with our panel next. When i walked through a snowstorm for a cigarette, thats when i knew i had to quit. For real this time. Thats why im using nicorette. 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It takes the ball which was very firmly in his court on this because of the attorneys general deadline for september 5th and puts it in congresss court. I know this is being read and understandably so given the threat to end the Dreamers Program in six months as donald trump ending it. I would say what donald trump is essentially doing is handing it to congress because he doesnt really want to end it. Of all the things in this campaign and in his presidency, early days of his presidency, donald trump has been the most thoughtful, insightful about the dreamers. Hes made clear hes very divided on it. What hes saying is im going to give it to congress. He Hopes Congress can get through it. He cant seem to find a way. Im skeptical that congress is able to pass anything big because this is going to have to be a republican and democratic vote. This is not going to be a republican bill because there are enough people like steve king, particularly in the house, who i think would make it hard for paul ryan to just pass this, some form of protection for dreamers with just republican votes. I actually think thats what trump is up to. I dont think this is a secret plot. If he wanted to, he could have ended it tomorrow. Right, sure. Errol, isnt it that his hand is being forced by these ten state attorneys general. Look, the president i think has been publicly conflicted about the dreamers and also publicly said he wants to do it with compassion, keep families together. Is it really there was this looming legal battle so he had to act this weekend . His hand is being forced. He would rather not have to deal with this. This is where rhetoric meets reality. This is not new, the dream act was first introduced in 2001, almost 18 years later, were no closer to consensus. I dont think Congress Wants this, despite what speaker ryan said. I think hes going to have a ticking time bomb handed to him, a grenade hes going to have to start juggling if it comes to him. The reality s both within the Republican Congress and certainly if they try to strike a bargain with democrats, there is no consensus about how to proceed on this stuff. Theres sort of a republican version of this thats been floating around, but when they try to bring on some of the hardliners like steve king, it starts getting wrapped up with funding for the wall and youll go right back to partisan gridlock. Again, theres a reason they havent found consensus on this. The president is not necessarily going to figure it out on his own. The attorneys general are not going to figure it out in court. Theres no reason to think that congress is going to figure it out. The difficulty, karoun, its probably best encapsulated by the president s own words, evolving rhetoric on this. Lets hear what the president has said evolving over time about daca. We will immediately terminate President Trumps two illegal executive amnestys in which he defied federal law and the constitution to give amnesty to approximately 5 million illegal immigrants. When somebody is terrific, we want them here. They have to be legal. Look, it sounds cold and it sounds hard. We have a country. Our country is going to hell. We have to have a system where people are legally in our country. Were always talking about dreamers for other people. I want the children that are growing up in the United States to be dreamers, also. Theyre not dreaming right now. Karoun, did the president pump this because he doesnt know where he is on the dreamers act . Your montage there stops well over a year ago. As weve heard, the president has made statements since becoming president that are a lot more sober about this, a lot more sympathetic to the plate of the dreamers. He seems to be somebody stuck between changing instincts and his base, which is not the only time trump has been in that position. He says im going to end the program but not immediately because ill give congress a measure of time to have a chance to end this. Its not an easy fix in congress. Chris made the point it would be difficult for congress to do something big. The key in this instance is to try to keep it small. What you can probably do is get consensus around some version of the dream act. You have the democrats probably willing to vote to a person for that bill and you have a contingent of republicans who are willing to do same thing as well, who have drafted new bills, partnered with democrats, in some cases may have voted for comprehensive immigration before. This would be a nobrainer for them. The problem is you need to let leaders put it on the floor for that vote. And theyre not there yet. To have this work, the math of this, means you have to have the Congressional Republican leaders also be willing to pass the ball over to their members and not be a blocking mechanism for those republicans for whom it is anathema to open any flood gates to any immigrants until you step up Border Security. That doesnt necessarily mean the wall trump is after, but something in terms of Border Security. This has always been where these things get stuck because republicans traditionally want Border Security before anything. Theres an exception some of them have made mentally for these kids because theyre such a sympathetic case, but its not the party. It has to be an aislecrosser that relies on democratic votes with some republicans and thats ground the president hasnt quite tread yet. It will be a neat thing if this can get through. Left in the lurch, the 800,000 kids brought to this country through no choice of their own. Panel, thank you very much. 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The city has set up a couple points of distribution that have been running incredibly efficiently. You queue up with your car and open your trunk and theyll toss in a couple cases. Also meals on wheels and city buses are teaming up to deliver water to elderly folks who cant leave their homes. So while this site is still submerged as many other places are in beaumont, houston is saying that 95 of that city is dry and more up and operational. These effects still being felt in so many places in southeast texas. But also across the country, at gas pumps across the country, were seeing a speak of about 94 cents per gallon. The effects of harvey can be felt by all. Dave. No doubt people across the country feeling that. Kaylee hartung live in beaumont. If thats not enough, Hurricane Irma tracking towards the United States. Will the monster make rainfall along the east coast. Cnns Allison Chinchar has the details. Hurricane irma is a powerful category three storm. Winds about 115 miles per hour. The movement is westsouthwest at about 14 miles per hour. That means in the coming days, places like the leeward islands, puerto rico, turks and caicos and the bahamas will be prime targets for this particular storm. The concern in the short term is we do expect it to intensify even more, up to a category four storm likely in about 24 hours from now. Then the question becomes where does it go from there . You have to take a look at whats going to be steering this storm in the longterm. Right now its this High Pressure you see right here. Thats whats steering the storm as we speak. Once it gets closer to florida, youre going to have to start taking into consideration the jet thats building in the u. S. That is likely whats going to keep it safe from florida or up the east coast. Exactly where that landfall may be is still up in the air. If it makes landfall in the u. S. , it wouldnt be until at least a week from today. 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Joining us is cnn National Security analyst and former head of the cia and nsa, general michael hayden. You said yesterday, mr. President , this is not a manhood issue, this is a National Security issue. Dont let your pride get ahead of wise policy here. Is that what you see happening . Well, so far, and i was very impressed with a very tough, but a very careful statement by secretary mattis as he left a meeting with the president yesterday afternoon. Secretary mattis had very strong language, but it was about a north korea threat, not a north korea capability. In other words, alisyn, i think he was trying to make a distinction between, were willing to preempt an imminent threat from north korea, but its not our policy to conduct a preventive war to prevent the north koreas from acquiring that kind of capability. Its a fine distinction, but i think its a big deal and a very useful statement on his part. What about that language, general . What about mattis saying, you know, were talking about the total annihilation of a country, not that thats what were saying. But were capable of that. Does upping this rhetorical hiebhie hyperbole, since kim jongun fires back an even more heated hyperbolic statement. He does. But a very tough, very precise statement, which is a little different than some of the things the president has been allowing himself to say which have been very tough, very imprecise and that could lead to great danger. What i think secretary mattis was doing was simply trying to convince the north that we have this option, and they cannot be certain we would never use it under certain circumstances. I think he was trying to cabin north korean thinking from that direction with the goal of hurting them in this direction which is diplomatic and negotiations. So lets talk about that. What are the real World Options here for the u. S. , for japan, for south korea . Really what can we do today . Well, you know, despite the president criticizing the south korean government for appeasement and i heard gordon and others talk about that earlier in the show the offramp here, alisyn, is were going to talk to the North Koreans, its just the conditions under which the talks will begin. Frankly, i think its a sad reality that the talks will be about limiting, controlling, perhaps making more trance parcht a north korean Nuclear Program, not dismantling that program. When you say were going to talk, what are the talks going to look like . Who is going to go over and talk . Thats really interesting. Weve tried twoparty formats, fourparty formats, sixparty formats. I actually think and here is a strange coincidence, alisyn. I think both the north koreas and we the americans are trying to pressure the chinese to create the format we would prefer for the talks. The North Koreans want the chinese to lean on us, to frankly accept an awful lot of the north Korea Program going in. We would want to lean on the chinese to create a format in which the North Koreans at least promise to stop testing before we agree to talk. Both playing the same game against the same player. Okay. So if it all comes down to the chinese negotiating this, is now the time for the Security Council at the u. N. Or anybody to inflict more sort of economic sanctions in terms of trade with china . First of all, the u. N. Wont sanction china. Theyll sanction korea. Frankly, theres a meeting today, and i think its a wise thing for us to try to amp up the pressure there as much as possible. As far as the chinese actually doing some of the things we want, alisyn, a couple of factors come to mind. Number one, xi jinping is going to be obsessed with internal matters to about october. I do think this is a bit of a longer fuse than we may have anticipated going in. The second, the high leverage we have. These would be national sanctions. Secondary sanctions against chinese firms who continue to do business with north korea. If that begins to touch the chinese banking industry, well be poking on an exposed nerve there. Oh, boy. General hayden, always great to get your insight and expertise into all this. Thanks, alisyn. Dave. Congress has an awful lot to tackle when they return to washington tomorrow, from Harvey Relief to a new spending bill, tax reform, health care. What can they get done, if anything, this year. We discuss next. When i walked through a snowstorm for a cigarette, thats when i knew i had to quit. For real this time. Thats why im using nicorette. Only nicorette gum has patented dualcoated technology for great taste, plus intense craving relief. Every great why needs a great how. Fixodent plus adhesives. Theres a denture adhesive that holds strong until evening. Just one application gives you superior hold even at the end of the day fixodent. Strong more like natural teeth. Congress back in session tomorrow facing a daunting agenda, tight deadlines. They have Harvey Relief bill, tax reform, health care, the debt ceiling. Lets discuss with chris cilliz cillizza, karoun demar engine and error lewis. Errol, harvey probably the most harmless and easy thing to get done. Still Steve Mnuchin gummed in the works by saying you have to tie that funding to raising the debt ceiling. Will that be simple given whats going on in Congress Today . It seems like a reasonable way to get through a difficult legislative session, by trying to bootstrap one of the more important ones, like the debt ceiling, onto the aid that nobody is going to disagree with. Its a standard ploy, might be an easy way to get congress to step gak from the brink on one of these important issues. The debt ceiling could be a black eye, not just for corn, but certainly the white house. An enormous headache for the treasury secretary in particular. Mark meadows said thats a terrible idea, the House Freedom caucus chair to tie the two. Karoun, you stalk the halls of Congress Every day. What do you think theyll tackle first . The first thing they said theyre going to talk about is the annual defense spending bill theyll give that some time to clear that off the books before they move on to all the other issues that are the pressing ones they have to finish at the end of the month about the continuing resolution, about harvey funding. Then, of course, the looming debt ceiling approaching. That will give them a little bit of time to try to work out exactly how this is going to look legislatively, but were going to have all that going on, and those fights will have to come to some sort of conclusion to keep the government from shutting down, but they wont be over because were talking about there being then a few months later other deadlines coming up that will require us to look at what the next funding will be, like hurricane Harvey Relief and more serious policy fight down the line. Of course, in my specific feed, ill be looking at the russia investigations reheating up because you have some of trumps inner circle making their way down to capitol hill in the next month, and that will be a new chapter in that on going investigation. Its difficult. Are you looking at it, all the political stuff that happens around it. Looks like a fullon obstruction of justice investigation. Lets move on to the greater context of all this, chris. How does it impact what they have to get done in 12 legislative days that the president leading up to this is taking on john mccain and john flake, numerous other republican senators. John mccain firing back in the Washington Post saying hes poorly informed, impulsive with his actions and words. How does all that change . As an expert, i can conclude thats not good. The fact is, i did a quick count last week. Donald trump had insulted or publicly attacked 11 republican senators including Senate Majority leader Mitch Mcconnell since coming into office or during the campaign. 11. Theres only 52 of them. So its about 20 of them. He continues to struggle with the idea, and i dont know whether he doesnt get it or he doesnt choose to get it, that these members of congress, even though theyre republican, dont work for him. This isnt the Republican Party or the nation isnt one Big Corporation where, if youre at the top, which he is as president , youre at the top of one of the branches, that doesnt mean the legislative branch works for you. I think thats the thing he continues to struggle with, why dont they just do what i say . Its going to be very tough i think to, on the specific debt ceiling, Hurricane Harvey stuff, thats two pills that conservatives do not necessarily want to swallow. Huge amounts of federal funding for harvey. Understandably, you see the images. I think youll see many coming out of houston, youll see many of them say this is a unique situation, once in a fillintheblank years flood. This Disaster Relief has been a bug bear for conservatives who have been very resistant to dumping federal money. The debt ceiling is a thing they hate just as much as that. Why are we raising it . We have this unlimited credit card. Why are we doing that. The problem we have is these are hard issues even for a president with significant Political Capital who has demonstrated experience working with congress. This president has demonstrated the opposite in terms of how to, would with congress. Thats why im skeptical hes going to be able to persuade. This doesnt depend entirely on the president. There is at least in a way, Hurricane Harvey, as traj iks and awful as it is, is an incentive for the government not to shut down. Also, if you are hearing signs from Republican Leaders in congress say, look, the debt ceiling is about making good on the bills weve already run up. Its not about its not necessarily about new spending. Its about covering our debt. At least youre hearing those sorts of tones right now coming from the upper echelons of the party. Whether those leaders can keep their rank and file in line and whether the president s base starts to get very active on some of the fiscal issues errol, very quickly. No chance the government shuts down quickly, right . Not with people at deadly risk in texas, absolutely not. Hydrogen bombs being fired over and missiles flying over our ally, tokyo, its unimaginably bad. I understand Steve Mnuchin not wanting to do all hell have to do to avoid a shutdown, but that might be a bridge too far. Panel, thank you all very much. The latest on the threat from north korea, the north showing signtion of prepas showing signtion of prepigntionr missile test. The Global Resources of cnn have it all covered for you next. Eet. Kevin Kevin Kevin KevinKevin Kevin KevinKevin Kevin Kevin trusted advice for life. Kevin, hows your mom . Life well planned. See what a Raymond JamesFinancial Advisor can do for you. Youre in the match app. Now tap on the new missed connections feature. It says ive crossed paths with kate six times this week. That is a lot of times. Shes cute too yea how did i miss her . You didnt. Match picked it up for you. 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Yesterday the north detonated a sixth test described as the most powerful one yet. So in just hours, the u. N. Security council will hold an emergency meeting. Theyre considering Even Stronger sanctions against north korea. The u. S. Warning north korea of a massive military response, while President Trump is blasting south korea for, quote, appeasement. All of this as cnn learns the president is expected to eand a Program Protecting Undocumented Immigrants who came to the u. S. As children from being deported. President trump again at odds with many in his own party. Lets begin with cnns will ripley who was just in north korea where hes done more than a dozen times. He joins us live from tokyo with the latest. Good morning, will. Reporter hi, dave. We were in pyongyang last week and government officials expressed their furry with the United States. We saw that anger translated into action with north koreas most powerful nuclear test today creating a magnitude 6. 3 earthquake. 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