You and called you up and said im not willing to show up for the job interview, you wouldnt hire me. Thats what donald said to the people of iowa. Cruz now also attacking marco rubio, who is rising in the polls here. Marco broke his promise to the American People. Rubio, rising fast and hitting back hard in an interview with us. His whole campaign is built on he is the only conservative and everyone else is a sellout and its absurd. What surprises await us tomorrow night . The best political minds will be here with insights from the campaign trail. What a race. Hello, aye ja hello, im jake tapper. Were in iowa. We have one day until the i walk caucus, when the first votes in this wild and wacky election season will finally be cast. On both sides of the aisle, its very tight and very tense as the candidates head into their final 24 hours on the campaign trail. The very latest numbers revealed overnight by the Gold Standard in iowa polling, the Des Moines Register, showing donald trump on top, leading his closest competitor, ted cruz, 28 to 23 . Marco rubio surging with 15 . On the democratic side, it is within the margin of error. With Hillary Clinton leading Bernie Sanders by three points, 45 to 42 . Anyones race there. Real nail biters on both sides. You can feel the excitement here in iowa. Its that energy that Bernie Sanders is counting on to win. And he joins me now, live, from cedar rapids, iowa. Thank you for joining us. Appreciate it. My pleasure. So the Gold Standard in iowa polling, the Des Moines Register, bloomberg poll came out last night, shows clinton ahead 45 to 42 . What do you need to do to win . How do you expand turnout and win the Iowa Caucuses . Jake, you know, when we started this campaign here in iowa, we were 50 or 60 points secretary clinton. We have come a long, long way. And the reason for that is we have 15,000 volunteers who, today, are going to be knocking on doors. Theyre going to be making telephone calls. Theyre going to be be urging people in very large numbers to come out and vote. What i sense is there are a lot of people who will participate in the caucus process on monday night, who previously were not involved in politics. Thats working class people. Thats young people who now want to direct the future of this country. They dont want to sit back. They want to take on a rigged economy, a corrupt campaign, finance system. And they want to stand up and be counted and have iowa be the first state in the country to lead us in a very, very different direction. So, i think if the turnout is high, jake, i think weve got a real shot to win this. Im sure youve seen this story in buzzfeed. The Clinton Campaign training caucus leaders to throw support to martin omalley, who is in f far, far third place in some cases, in a way to manipulate the process, completely according to the rules but some people might find it odd. What do you think about that tactic . You know, i cant keep up with what the Clinton Campaign does, to be honest with you. When i do get disturbed, im seeing ads on television suggesting, for example, that i am attacking planned parenthood when i want to present lifetime pro planned parenthood one of the greatest organizations in america. I dont know what the Clinton Campaign is doing. All i know is that we are bringing out large numbers of people. Were creating a lot of excitement and energy on the part of people who really are tired of establishment politics and establishment economics, tired of seeing almost all new income and wealth going to the top 1 . Want us to address climate change. Want us to address a broken criminal justice system. So, im feeling good, jake. Our issues are out there. People are really enthusiastic. And if people come out to vote, i think you can look at one of the biggest political upsets in the modern history of our country. The viewership for the democratic debates has been very, very strong. You and Hillary Clinton have agreed to do more debates. Details have not been agreed to. You want to do one in brooklyn. Shes challenged you to debate in flint, michigan. Will you debate in flint, michigan . Is that okay with you . Sure, i dont have a problem. As i understand it, this is what happened. Dnc, without my input, without our campaigns input, announced six debates and then suddenly secretary clinton, who isnt doing so well in New Hampshire, she wanted another debate. I said thats fine, but lets do three other debates in california, one in new york, lets do one in michigan. But, obviously, if you do one in michigan, you want to do it before their primary, not after their primary. God knows whats going on in flint, michigan, is an outrage beyond belief. A Public Health crisis. I dont have a problem with being in flint, michigan. Lets do it before their primary. Lets work out the details. Ive always wanted more debates. Our message is resonating with the middle class and working families of this country. So to have those debates is something that i look forward to. We learned recently that you now have protection from the u. S. Secret service. Were you getting threats or this just part of rising in the polls and becoming a credibility, legitimate candidate . Well, i think, you know, Security Issues is probably something we should not talk about. Fair enough. The Washington Post wrote a scathing editorial about you this week. It says, quote, sanders is not a brave truth teller. They cast you as just another politician, pandering to liberal voters. A clinton ally says her campaign is handing out copies of this editorial. Want to give you a chance to respond. Look, i am not greatly beloved by the economic establishment, by wall street, by the big money interests or by, you know, the major media of this country, including the Washington Post. I am being attacked because i am too ambitious, because i say, among other things, that maybe we should have attacks on wall streets speculation, whose greed and recklessness helped to destroy the lives of many, many pooen people. And maybe we should use that money to make public colleges and universities tuition free. Maybe we should do away with these outrageous corporate loopholes that allow corporations to stash the money in Cayman Islands and not pay a nickel in taxes. Maybe we should do that and use that revenue to restore our crumbling infrastructure. Maybe we should expand Social Security so that millions of seniors in this country dont have to live on 11,000, 12,000 a year by lifting the cap and asking millionaires to contribute their fair share. The Washington Post doesnt like it. They dont like my idea of a medicare for all single payer program, which would enable the United States to join the rest of the industrialized world. Guarantee health care to all people and, by the way, jake by the way, save middle class families thousands and thousands of dollars a year on their health care costs. We are taking on the establishment. Washington post is the establishment. Doesnt surprise me they dont like my ideas. Lets turn to national security. There have been some questions about who is advising you on military and foreign polishes. Who are the former generals or former Senior Defense officials upon whose counsel you rely . Weve been talking the last month to many, many, many people who are very knowledgeable about national Security Issues and foreign polishes. And i am confident that we have the judgment and the experience to do what has to be done for the American People. I would just remind the viewers, jake, that on the most important foreign polish in our lifetimes, or at least in the last 20, 30 years right. I voted against the war in iraq and Hillary Clinton voted for it. I am confident that in terms of dealing with the middle east crisis, the need to put together a coalition to prevent our young men and women in the military from getting involved in perpetual warfare, i am absolutely confident that i can handle that issue. I know that you assert that you have the right judgment. Im just wondering if you could name a former military official there are two larry korb worked in the reagan administration, somebody we have consulted with. Fair enough. At cnns october debate, you fa famously told Hillary Clinton ill spare you my Bernie Sanders impression but you said the American People are sick and tired of hearing about your damn emails. Should voters take from those comments that you think nothing was done wrong . No. When it comes to how secretary clinton handled that no. Thats not a fair no. No. I do not think that is a fair assessment. Its a very serious issue. I think there is a Legal Process right now taking place. And what i have said and i get criticized. Bernie, why dont you attack Hillary Clinton . There is a Legal Process taking place. I do not want to politicize that issue. It is not my style. What i am focusing on, jake, are the issues impacting the middle class of this country. You know, jake, i go around this state of iowa. I cant go to a meeting where kids do not tell me not kids. Middleaged people how much in debt they are in terms of student debt or people who cant afford health care. Those are the issues were going to focus on. Theres a Legal Process under way with regard to the email situation. It will play out. Im not going to politicize it. Fair enough. Senator Bernie Sanders, congratulations on what youve been able to build here in iowa. Well see you on the campaign trail. Thank you very much, jake. Coming up next, donald trump says he skipped this weeks debate because of an argument with fox news. But his strongest rival ted cruz, hes not buying it. If i was interviewing with you and called you up and said im not willing to show up at the job interview, you wouldnt hire me. And i think thats what donald said to the people of iowa. Every day you read headlines about businesses being hacked and intellectual property being stolen. That is cybercrime and it affects each and every one of us. Microsoft created the digital crimes unit to fight cybercrime. We use the microsoft cloud to visualize information so we can track down the criminals. When it comes to the cloud, trust and security are paramount. Were building what we learn back into the cloud to make people and organizations safer. I thione second its there. Day. Then, woosh, its gone. I swear i saw it swallow seven people. Seven. I just wish one of those people could have been mrs. Johnson. 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You told a group of pastors reenl recently that if trump wins New Hampshire and iowa that there is, quote, a very good chance he could be unstoppable and be our nominee. Are you the firewall . Are you the one that can stop trump . Look, ill leave political punditry to other folk. This is your punditry. I can can tell you we are competing hard here on the ground in iowa and in New Hampshire, south carolina, nevada. Were running a national campaign. Weve got an Incredible Team all across super tuesday, across the sec states. You dont have to win here necessarily . We dont view any state as a mustwin. Were positioned to do well in iowa, we work very hard. Grass roots team weve got is unbelievable. Its second to none. 200 volunteers nationwide. And tomorrow we will complete whats known as the full grassley, all 99 counties in the state of iowa, and stood in front of the men and women in iowa and looked them in the eyes and asked them for their support i think thats what its going to take to win ien aye wau but well find out tomorrow night. Youve expressed your concerns about donald trump. I know you he attacked you first, for the record. You have, since, counterpunched and talked about your concerns. You have made your concerns about his, in your view, new york values, support for partial birth abortion and more. Theres a phase to any campaign. A month ago, donald was telling everyone how much he liked me and how much i was his friend. And then his poll numbers started falling and ours started rising. And now i wake up every day and look at my phone and discover what new insult he has launched out. Theres been a lot. Theyre always interesting. I will give him credit. When he insults someone its always memorable and colorful. My approach has been im not going to respond in kind. I dont intend to insult donald trump. Im not going to engage in personal attacks. No matter what he says, i like donald. I will continue to praise him as bold and brash. Now i do think policy differences are fair game. I do think pointing out he and i have very, very different views on questions like life and marriage and religious liberty he and i have very different views and records on questions Like Health Care and obamacare and amnesty. And so all of that is fair game. But i think the people of iowa deserve more. I think the American People deserve more than just a battle of petty insults. So, i dont intend to play that game. As you point out, there have been a lot of policy deferences youve been highlighting with your opponents. Lately youve been focusing more on marco rubio, who trails you in the polls here. Some say he has momentum. He, this weekend, said that your campaign is being deceitful about his record. Why should voters pick you over marco rubio . And why are you better to go after Hillary Clinton in november than rubio . Well, listen, i think the central question in this primary is trust. Were tired of being burned. We are tired of having politicians who are sound on the campaign trail but dont do what they said. In texas, i promised the men and women of texas i would lead the fight against amnesty. We made the exact same promises but when we got to washington, he decided to break the promise he made to the people who elected him and joined with chuck schumer, harry reid and barack obama. Not only did he not lead the fight against amnesty, but led the fight to pass amnesty. It was the Rubio Schumer amnesty bill. It made it easy for obama to bring in tens of thousands of Syrian Refugees without mandating background checks t granted amnesty to 12 Million People here illegally. I made a very different decisions, to stand with Jeff Sessions, steve king and millions of conservatives across the country against amnesty. We defeated it in congress. If youre asking who can i trust to do what he said, the fact that on his signature issue, marco broke his promise to the American People is significant. That would be like me coming to washington and suddenly discovering i was for obamacare. That would be commensurate with what marco did. If we nominate a candidate who supports amnesty who has the same position on amnesty as Hillary Clinton, we will lose the same millions of reagan democrats, of steelworkers, auto workers, Truck Drivers and el t electricians who stayed home in 2012. Theyll stay home in 2016. We have to be working for the men and women of this country. Amnesty takes their jobs and drives down wages. Rubios response to that, obviously, is that you offered an amendment that would have provided a path to legal status. Not citizenship, but a path to legal status. His response is false. The amendment i offered was 38 words. It was one sentence. It said nobody here illegally will ever be eligible for citizenship, period. It didnt say a word about legalization. And the differences are very clear now. Marco supports amnesty. He supports legalization today as a president ial candidate. I oppose amnesty, citizenship and legalization. Ill give you another difference, jake, which is i had pledged on day one to rescind every single illegal and unconstitutional executive order issued by barack obama. That includes president obamas illegal amnesty. Marco has gone on univision in spanish and told jorge ramos he will not repeal, will not rescind obamas illegal amnesty on day one. He says you cant do it over note and he wont do it. Thats a sharp difference. Its not a personal difference, personal insult. Its a difference in policy. By the way, marcos support for amnesty goes back many, many years when he was speaker of the house. In florida . In florida. He led the fight to provide instate tuition for illegal aliens. Hes entitled to have that view. He doesnt get to try to convince the voters that his position is different from what his record is. For anyone who says, gosh, how do i know who is telling the truth, i would suggest you look to what Jeff Sessions and steve king and Rush Limbaugh and mark levin say. Marco rubio led the fight for amnesty, ted cruz and thats a difference that matters. During that whole battle, donald trump was nowhere to be found. Let me ask you one final question. The debate . Yeah. You obviously took a lot of heat from the fellow candidates on the stage. And your campaign argues it was an establishment audience. It was not an audience that were a bunch of cruz supporters. Do you think that donald trump didnt participate in the debate because he wanted you to be the target, or do you think it was because he didnt like megyn kelly, fox news or whatever . I dont think it was because he was afraid of megyn ankkelly. I think it was because donald did not want his record challenged. Its the same reason he engages in insults. He cant defend his substantive record. His position on health care is the same as Bernie Sanders. They both support socialized medicine, expanding obamacare to put the government in charge of our health care. His position on croneyism is the same as barack obama. He supported obamas tarp bailout. He supported the stimulus and said it should be larger. So, you know, look, i think it was a real mistake for donald not to show up at the debate. I think anyone who wants to win the state of iowa owes the people of this state the respect to show up attite wau debate to answer the questions. I get that it is unpleasant to have your record subject to scrutiny, to be potentially criticized. This is a job interview. If i was coming to work for you, jake if i was interviewing with you and i called you up and said im not willing to show up at the job interview, you wouldnt hire me. And i think thats what donald said to the people of iowa, that he wasnt willing to submit to the scrutiny. And i think thats a mistake. What i am doing every day is asking the men and women of iowa, examine my record. Pray on this. And ill tell you, if conservatives come out tomorrow night, monday night at 7 00 pm, if conservatives come out, were going to win. And we are bringing together a grassroots army, person to person, friend to friend, pastor to pastor, iowan to iowan. Thats how you win the state of iowa. Good luck. Thank you so much for doing this. Appreciate it. Thank you. Some tough talk from senator cruz. When we come back, ill hit the trail with marco rubio in iowa. 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Do you feel it . Does that seem accurate . We feel good about our team and the work weve done here. What it leads to, well see. Obviously ted is the frontrunner. 10,000 volunteers. Hes truly the favorite, but we feel good about our work. What that translates to in future states, and we love being here. The people here are fantastic. I do feel good. The crowds are growing. The people signing up are growing. Our Campaign Structure feels good about it. So well see what it leads to. But i feel real good about wednesday. Well have a strong showing on monday night. I was just talking to senator cruz and asked him why should people pick him over you. And he said that you both ran in 2010, promising that you would block amnesty. And he kept his promise, and you broke your promise. Yeah, so teds the line that his whole campaign is built on is that hes the only conservative and everyone else is a sellout and a rino, and its absurd. Even on immigration. I mean, he helped design george w. Bushs immigration policy. He talked openly in an Interview National interview about needing to reach a compromise on people that are here illegally. Theres a tweet that was going around yesterday that he put out during the immigration debate talking about legalization. He said he wanted to bring people out of the shadows. He said he wanted to obviously pass immigration reform. So i think its just not an accurate statement. Ive tried to fix a problem thats a very serious issue in texas and in florida, and its a hard issue. And clearly were not going to be able to do it comprehensively, and were not going to be able to do it until we enforce our immigration laws. I dont support amnesty. Were not going to have amnesty when im president. Theres going to be real consequences for violating our law. But this whole notion that hes the only conservative, i think as people learn more about his record, theyll learn hes very calculated. Hes always looking to take whatever position it takes to win votes or raise money. Were not going to beat Hillary Clinton with someone that will do or say anything to get elected. One of the things cruz said is that you gave an interview to univision to jorge ramos in which you said in spanish that you would not try to undo the executive actions president obama made when it came to thats also inaccurate. That just never happened. What ive always said is that the president s dafa on adults needs to be now its being stayed by a court, but ill repeal it, and daka needs to end, too. The only thing on daka, the people on it now shouldnt be allowed to reregister and we shouldnt be adding people to it. Thats consistently my position. Its just not accurate. At the end of this election, hes just making stuff up. And its strange, given, you know, the formidable organization that he has here in iowa. Hes obviously spooked by something. And so we expect the kitchen sink here in the next 48 hours. Ben sass, the senator from nebraska, with whom i believe youve campaigned. Uhhuh. He hasnt endorsed anybody, but he certainly made it very clear that he thinks trump would be a disaster as the nominee. And hes a constitutional republican. Sass has brought up Donald Trumps private life. Talking about relationships hes had, extramarital, et cetera. Is that fair game . Is that kind of thing fair game . I dont bring it up. I like ben very much. If he wants to bring it up, youd have to ask him about it. Im not condemning him for it. Im just telling you, i dont bring it up because, quite frankly in my mind, thats not the issue in this campaign. This country wants someone that will help undo the damage barack obama has done to america. So thats what i focus on. And thats what my campaign is about. So i can talk to you about the things i say or dont say. What somebody else says, youll have to ask them. You were talking about how voters seem to really like authenticity and genuineness. And when i talk to voters in iowa, one of the things they say, the trump supporters, is they dont bring up his policies, even. They just like that he says what he thinks and he doesnt care about political correctness. He doesnt care about ruffling feathers. Hes just honest. You are a very disciplined politician. Im not calling you ungenuine, but youre a very disciplined politician. Do you think that that might work against you in a cycle like this . No. Look, people can call it disciplined. Im running on a very specific agenda. I mean, im running for president of the United States. Im not doing it for entertainment. Im doing it because this country is headed in the wrong direction. Seven years of barack obama has done tremendous damage to our economy, our standing in the world, our national security, and those are the issues im focused on. And i keep talking about them over and over because theyre the reasons im running. Donald is the greatest show on earth. Hes very entertaining. This campaign isnt about that. Its got to be about the serious issues confronting this country. If we get this election wrong, there may be no turning back on some of these issues. Can trump be stopped . In terms of the nomination . Yeah. Sure. This is a very unusual year. No one is unbeatable. This election wont be decided by one or two states. I think the race will narrow after a couple states, but no one myself or anyone else is going to have to earn this nomination. And it is going to be a very unusual, highly contested, i think, longerthanusual process given the size of the field and given the challenge before the country. Where can you win . What states can you win . Well, we try to do well everywhere. Obviously, im not the campaign strategist. You can talk to them about that. Im running for president. And so what i focus on is i go out every day and try to get as many people as possible to be inspired and believe in our message and vote for me. Whether its here in iowa on monday in the caucus, whether its in the primary a week later in New Hampshire. What that translates to, you know, well see. I feel good about it. You know, i really dont spend a lot of time thinking about the strategy. I spend most of my time thinking about what i need to do when im president. A lot of people think that trump can be stopped but not if there are so many traditional politicians, which i dont mean as an insult, but traditional politicians in the race. You, christie, kasich, jeb bush, et cetera. Do you think after iowa and New Hampshire it will be time for some of these traditional candidates to coalesce behind one . No. You cant force anyone to do that. People are going to run until they feel its time for them not to. And, you know, ive never called for anyone to get out of the race. I think it will just happen. It always happens. I suspect that after iowa, there will be perhaps a candidate or two that may decide not to continue. Certainly after New Hampshire, i think that will be the case. And so that will play itself out in due time. But these people have worked very hard. I mean, im out there, but theyre out there, too. Theyve been working for a year. Theyve been doing the town halls and shaking of the hands. They deserve to have voters weigh in on their candidacy and not have somebody calling on anyone to step aside. It will happen. And it will happen at the appropriate time, you know. No matter what our differences might be, i do respect people that are out there running for president in both parties. Its hard to do. Having done this, having gone through this now, i have tremendous respect for the people that have done it before and for the people that are doing it now. One of the things that was interesting about the Republican Debate the other night, other than the absence of a frontrunner, was the fact that Hillary Clinton was mentioned, i think, 32 times. Barack obama was mentioned, i think, the same. Donald trump was only mentioned 14 times. Before you are able to take on Hillary Clinton, as i know youre eager to do, you have to get past the frontrunner. And it seems like a lot of candidates are reluctant to even take him on. No, i mean, when ive had disagreements with donald weve discussed them in the past. Not so much in the debates because it just hasnt come up, but weve most certainly done it during the campaign. If you go back to early, late fall, youll see that. This campaign is not about republicans tearing each other up. This campaign is about ensuring that we can turn this country around. Were not going to turn this country around if a socialist like Bernie Sanders or someone like Hillary Clinton is elected president of the United States. Senator, thanks so much. Really appreciate it. I appreciate it. When we come back, will iowa deliver the victory that eluded Hillary Clinton once before, or will Bernie Sanders start the revolution hes been calling for . 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Republican strategist anna navarro and brian schweitzer, former governor who endorsed martin omalley. Thanks so much for being here in this freezing weather. Lets put up the poll numbers from the Des Moines Register poll showing the republican race right now. Donald trump, 28 . Ted cruz, 23 . Marco rubio, 15 . Ben carson, 10 . Hugh, as ted cruz said, closed doors but wouldnt support his own punditry when i asked him about it, if donald trump wins here, is he unstoppable . No. I dont think anyones going to get over 30 . So i dont think this race is actually going to move New Hampshire much. I dont see the carson number staying at 10 . I see a lot of flexibility. I noted that marco rubio about three half hours this weekend, ted is rushing to the end. Donald trump is staying here 24 7. Wide open but i dont see anyone getting 30 . Okay. Can i ask you, do you think the ted cruz ground game can get him over the hump and have him win . Is that possible . It is possible. Will it happen . We dont know. Really that is the gigantic question that is above both the democratic and Republican Caucus here on monday. Will celebrity stardom, will authenticity, will persona trump, you know, the classic organizations . Weve got Hillary Clinton and ted cruz who have classic ontheground organizations in iowa. We have got, you know, Bernie Sanders and donald trump who are all about persona, personality, just, you know, who they are, attracting all these rallies. The question is will the rallygoers turn into voters . If they do, i think you see Bernie Sanders and donald trump win. If they dont, i think you see Hillary Clinton, you know, get it. Governor, let me ask you well get to the democratic race here in iowa in a second, but do you think democrats, in general, are underestimating donald trump and how strong he might be in a general election . I think everybody has, including most of the pundits. But what donald trump is, none of the above. His voters are i dont like anything thats going on in washington, d. C. , and you dont sound or look like them. And im voting for you. Thats interesting. Whats interesting about trump in iowa is he might prove that ground game doesnt matter. I think he only has 12 staffers here in iowa. So is he able to reach people with social media and get them to show up on caucus night . I think Something Like 40 of the people who say theyre going to vote for him on caucus night have never been to a caucus before. Will they this time . Because if he gets them there and if he wins iowa going away, it changes politics for democrats and republicans. Whole book out the window. Is Hillary Clinton underestimating donald trump . Assuming shes the nominee and hes the nominee, is she ready . I hear a lot of democrats in washington, not you, kind of like sneering as if oh, hes going to be easy to defeat. And as has been pointed out, pundits are wrong about donald trump almost every time. Yeah going away. I agree. Look, i dont think, you know, if youre the republican nominee, you have a very good chance of being the next president. Any major party leader, it could be president. So i think and also, we should recognize hes transformed politics. Hes a new breed of political force. So no one should underestimate him. I do think he helps bring out the rising american electorate. He will bring out voters. Youre seeing latino Voter Registration going up now. Against him. Against him. He will also attract different people to politics. Disenfranchised white voters. I think thats something that both parties have to deal with. Lets look at the democratic race from that Gold Standard poll, the Des Moines Register bloomberg, Hillary Clinton, 45 . Bernie sanders, 42 . Sorry, governor, omalley only at 3 there. If that ends up being the final vote count, is the headline, do you think, governor, Hillary Clinton wins iowa, or is it Bernie Sanders almost beats Hillary Clinton in iowa . I dont care what the headline is because it isnt winner take all. When they leave iowa, if you get to 15 , you get some delegates and if you dont, you dont. What bernie ought to say is, look, i got 45 and i won. And hillary has to say, i won. Outright. Yeah. So, you know, bernie really ought to say, i got 45 of the delegates in iowa. Thats pretty dang good. And go on to New Hampshire. Did Hillary Clinton underestimate Bernie Sanders, do you think, or did the Clinton Organization underestimate him . You know, weve seen Bernie Sanders rise in the fall. So i think you know, this isnt just like he was rising just now. He had a big, big surge in the fall. Came down a little, is surging again. I think the reality is that people are tired of politics as usual. And i think whats great about this race is hillary in the last week has really been, you know, fighting for it. Shes really, like, doing better in the clutch. This is this poll was taken before the 22 emails marked top secret were revealed. This is an enormously important issue of national security. Her biggest vulnerability is she is not trusted. Yes, they do and republicans care. The Des Moines Register poll, this question was asked about the email. 85 democrats say they dont care. No, this is before the 22 emails came out friday that were marked top secret. She is lying to the American People. She is not lying. It will make its way i want to go into the poll. One thing thats interesting is if you look at the democratic vote, according to the poll, the most predictive thing about whether they support sanders or clinton is not gender, its age. Older voters going for clinton, Younger Voters going for sanders. And women under the age of 45 look at that. 48 of women under 45 are going for sanders. And 33 for clinton. Why is Hillary Clinton not connecting, do you think, with younger women . Because younger women dont just go for gender. Because, you know, they dont think that being a woman is, you know, is an historical Glass Ceiling thing. You know, weve grown up. I am a woman thats under 45. Weve grown up without some of the limitations that the women that came in front of us had. So we dont see it to the same level that you may if you are of an older generation. And frankly, because look, Bernie Sanders comes across as authentic. It is fascinating that the 74yearold from vermont whos a cranky old guy is the one that is really resonating and cutting through with the young people because of passion. Weve got to pay the bills. Quick break right now. When we come back, panel, stay here. Final predictions on whos going to win, whos going to get a ticket to New Hampshire. Stay with us. Was engineered. To help sense danger before you do. Because when you live to innovate, you innovate to live. The allnew audi q7. A higher form of intelligence has arrived. 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You need multiple people in this primary so it doesnt get over in two months. You could be more concise than that if you want. Bernie wins democrats, ted wins republicans, donald comes in second, but marco rubio comes in a close third. Interesting. Ana . Im going to predict that donald trump wins and hope that he loses. And i think on the democratic side its going to be Bernie Sanders. Because i really want to see larry david give a victory speech. I love how the republicans really love Bernie Sanders. Maybe theres a message there. So do the democrats well see tomorrow. Whats your prediction . I think hillary will win. By a lot or a little . I think it will be close. Shell win. Which will be good momentum. And i think sadly for america, donald trump will win. Handily . By more than a few points. All right. It wont be neck and neck. How about you . What do you think . I dont do that. 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