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Democratic Senate Candidate Rafael Warnock ahead. Hello, im jake tapper in washington. The state of our union is in a dangerous play. The coronavirus is surging across the United States. New cases have now topped 100,000 for 12 days in a row. On friday, the u. S. Saw the highest daily count since the pandemic began with more than 184,000 new cases in that one day. Deaths are also rising. An average of more than 1,000 deaths a day for the last four days. The virus has already killed more than 245,000 americans, with a critical model warning that another 200,000 americans could die by march because of the virus. The country did receive some good news this week. Great news, really, about the potential for a highly effective vaccine but nothing has yet been approved. Experts worry that the worst will come before the vaccine is widely available. Making this moment even more potentially perilous. The president of the United States quoted this morning he won because the election was rigged. Then he listed conspiracy theories and live. The president is still refusing to allow the biden transition to begin even in critical areas such as National Security or the fight against covid19. Instead, the president is spreading disinformation and he is playing golf and he is cheering on thousands of supporters who gathered in washington, d. C. On saturday to protest the Election Results based on the lies that the president and far right media are spreading. Unfortunately for President Trump, this state of denial wins him exactly zero electoral votes. Joining me now, is a vital member of the president s Coronavirus Task force, director of the National Institutes of allergic and infectious diseases, dr. Anthony fauci. We hit a record high 184,000 new cases on friday and its getting worse. Other than wearing masks, washing hands, avoiding crowds, and social distancing, what more on a policy level do we, in the United States, need to be doing . What we got to do is make what you just said, jake, uniform, not spotty. Everybody has got to do it. There is no excuse not to do that right now. Because we know that can turn things around. I mean, that is the tool we have. As ive mentioned just recently and as you eluded to, we have good news with regard to the vaccine. So there is light at the end of the tunnel. Help is coming and that should, i believe, motivate people to just say we are going to double down and do this uniformly. Those are the tools we have right now. And they do work. We can get this to plateau to come down. Obviously, everyone is sensitive to what we call covid fatigue. People are worn out about this. But we have got to hang in there a bit longer, particularly as we get into the holiday seasons and the Colder Weather as we get into the late fall and early winter months. We have got to hang together on this, jack jake, because we can make it turn around. We really can. New cases are skyrocketing. We know that hospitalizations and then deaths ultimately follow. A university of washington model projects that the u. S. Will reach 439,000 deaths due to covid by march 1st. Is that really possible . Another 200,000 deaths in just the next four months . It is possible, jake. And the issue is the models, as ive said so often, are as good as the assumptions you put into the model. And we have got to change those assumptions. We have got to say we are going to turn it around vigorously adhering to the Public Health measures. And we dont need to get to that number. That is a model number if we act in a certain way. We can turn that around. That, plus, the fact we are going to start getting doses of Vaccines Available for the highest priority individuals sometime in mid to late december, and then as we get into january, we will get more vaccine doses available. I think when we put those two things together, vaccine, plus strong adherence to the fundamental Public Health measures. Half of the states across the country, 25 states have reported record hospitalizations this week due to covid. I know that you have said you dont think a nationwide lockdown necessary but given the news numbers we are seeing do you see any circumstances the next few months it might make sense for local officials, mayors, or maybe governors, to issue new stayathome orders in just specific discrete parts of the country . I think that likely will happen, jake, if we dont turn around this surge. Youre right. We are not getting a National Lockdown. I think that is very clear. But i think what we are going to start seeing in the local levels, be they governors or mayors or people at the local level, will do as you said, very surgical type of restrictions which are the function equivalent of a local lockdown but we wont have a National Lock down. If things really get bad and you put your foot on the pedal and, yet, still you have the surge, you may need to take the extra step youre talking about. You have already encouraged americans to consider cancelling any thanksgiving plans that involve visiting with somebody else or having visitors come. I know a lot of americans are looking ahead hoping to make plans for other holidays such as christmas. When do you think americans will next be able to safely gather together for family events like this . Are you suggesting it probably wont be able to happen until, i dont know, labor day, 2021, thanksgiving 2021 . You know, it depends on a number of factors, jake. For example, we have vaccines now is the first one that came out was highly effective. I anticipate that the second one likely will be comparable. You never can tell until you see the data. But would be comparable. That is great. But we have to get people to take the vaccine. So if we get the overwhelming majority of people taking the vaccine and you have on the one hand an effective vaccine, on the other hand, a high degree of uptake of the vaccine, we could start getting things back to relative normal as we get into the second and Third Quarter of the year where people can start thing about doing things that were too dangerous just months ago. But we have to put all of those things together. Jake, we cant wish it happening. We have to get the vaccine, it has to be deployed and we cant abandon fundamental Public Health measures. You can approach a degree of normality while still doing some fundamental Public Health things that sinner guys with the vaccine to get us back to normal. Not until the second or Third Quarter of 2021 . Christmas is probably not going to be possible . Yeah. Im well, you know, i think if we get most of the country vaccinated in the second, Third Quarter Third Quarter of the year, and the vaccine continues to prove its efficacy and people adhere to those fundamental measures, i think we can start approaching the degree. Its not going to be a light switch, jake. We are not going to turn it on and off, going to where we are to completely normal. A gradual accrual as we get well into 2021. President Trumps Administration is refusing to acknowledge reality and being blocking the transition process with president elect Joe Biden Team and as well as relating to fighting the pandemic. How problematic is it against the coronavirus if the nih and your agency and other Government Experts are not able to begin communicating with president elect bidens team, which, as you know, has its own expertise in fighting pandemics. Jik ejaake, as you know, iv through multiple transitions having served for 36 years. The time period measured from weeks to several months is real important in a smooth handsing over of the information as well as like passing a baton in a race. You dont want to stop and then give it to somebody. You want to essentially keep going and that is what transition is so it certainly would make things more smoothly if we could do that. Just as a Public Health measure, you think it would be a good idea if your team would be able to work with the Biden Harris Transition Team right now, just in terms of what is best for the Public Health of the American People . Of course, jake. That is obvious. Of course, it would be better if we could start working with them. When is the last time President Trump attended a white house Coronavirus Task force meeting . You know, it was months ago, but, you know, when we have our Task Force Meeting, its run, as you know, by Vice President pence and the Vice President then translates that the president , himself. But the last time the president was physically at a Task Force Meeting was several months ago. President elect biden has selected ron klain to be his chief of staff in the white house and partly the reason he pointed to klains appearance fighting ebola in 2014. You worked closely with ron klain during that outbreak. You what i do think of ron klain as bidens choice . I worked with ron klain. He never liked the word czar. He was the coordinator but he was absolutely terrific at the ebola situation where we had a very successful, ultimate end game with ebola. We developed therapies. We put out the outbreak you know, it was a terrible outbreak, obviously. But we, ultimately, were very successful but that is how i got to know ron. Its quite a contrast. In january, ron klain wrote a piece in the atlantic what needed to be done for the pending crisis. This was in january. The next month, trumps acting white house chief of staff saying the virus was another hoax from the media. You dont have to comments on that. I am. Lets move on. I want to ask you about this new vaccine from pfizer which will be hard to to distribute and challenge willing to distribute because it needs to be kept at 75 degrees celsius and it will have two doses. We have hearing state officials in north dakota and mississippi who say they are overwhelmed and daunted and one added we do not have enough to pull this off successfully. How are we able it november and they are not able to proper distribute this vaccine . Its going to be a challenge, for sure. The states is not something i deal with distribution. I know. Others do. I can tell you just from what im hearing, they feel they need more resources to be able to implement something that they had not done before, namely, the special requirements. I believe its going to be done, jake. Im cautiously optimistic that we will be able to get that done. We have, you know, a system, the distribution system, led by general gus perna, who is going to be responsible for getting the material there. Obviously, locally. Once they get them there, they have to be able to distribute and that is what we are going to likely need more resources for. As we are hearing they are talking about needing more resources to implement that. Is the Pfizer Vaccine safe for kids . Has it been tested on kids . No, not yet. What we do this is not an unusual situation, is that once you have a vaccine shown to be safe and effective in an adult, you can go back and do phase one and phase two trials in children, and then do what is called bridging it, namely, using the data to show that its comparable responses in children but its safe. And the reason we do that is that children are vulnerable and you always got to make sure that youre dealing with a safe and effective vaccine before you even think about putting it into children. You want to get the children to get it as quickly as you possible can. You dont want to deprive them of access to it, but you want to make sure youre safe when youre dealing with a vulnerable population such as children. That is standard what we do with almost all vaccines. Once somebody has been immunized, i guess for pfizer, its two doses, img not sum no what it is for moderna or the other vaccines down the pike. Once the process is complete does that mean they can take off their mack, dont have to social distance and go about their lives as before . I would recommend that is not the case. I would recommend you have an added area of protection. Obviously, with 90 plus percent effective vaccine you could feel much more confident but i would recommend to people to not abandon all Public Health measures just because youve been vaccinated, because even though for the general population, it might be 90 to 95 effective, you dont necessarily know for you how effective it is. So when i get vaccinated, which i hope to when it becomes my turn to get vaccinated, im not going to abandon completely Public Health measures. I could feel more relaxed and essentially not having the stringenty we have right now. Because 5 to 10 of the people who get immunized it might not be effective for and people could get the virus if they let down their guard. You worked for six difference administrations as you noted. I want to take you back to something you said the previous anchor of the show Candy Crowley about the ebola crisis in 2014 about your job to deliver bad news to people. Take a listen. Ive never had an experience where the president is telling me to tell him something that he wants to hear. Ive never had an experience where a president is telling me to tell him something that he wants to hear. I guess you cant say that any more . Well, ive been as transparent as open as telling the administration the facts. What they do with it is a different story, but i certainly have not held back from giving my advice and recommendation based on the facts and the data. That hasnt changed from 2014. In fact, that hasnt changed for 36 years that ive been doing this. No, of course not. Its just that this is the only time its gotten you into hot water. One last question. Well. You dont have to comment on that. We need you in that job. The United States. Okay. Has 4 of the population and roughly 20 of the worlds coronavirus cases and the worlds coronavirus deaths. How do you think history will remember the United States government response to this pandemic over the past year . You know, obviously, its not going to be a good report because of the extent of the suffering that we have had. But, you know, jake, i think we are going to have to need a real academic analysis of the multifaceted issues that went into this and it has a lot to do, i think, with the nature of our country, a very large country with 50 states that tend to want to do things a little bit differently, with a country as great and phenomenal as it is, that has a flare of independence that they dont like to be told what to do. So there are a lot of things that are going to go into why we have such a high rate of in fact, and a high rate of death and i think is going to take some serious examination before we really nail down what the totality of the cause of that is. Its go to have been very complicated. Thank you, dr. Anthony fauci. We appreciate your time and the fact youre still on the job there. Thank you, jake. Thank you for having me. Progressives who helped send joe biden to the oval office now saying its time to ponyup with cabinet posts. Senator Bernie Sanders joins me live next. 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President elect joe biden will not take office until january, but the interparty fight between moderates and progressives are on twitter when alexandria ocasiocortez posted this photo of herself throwing shade at joe mansion after he criticized, quote, a crazy socialist agenda. How might this ideological struggle impact the democrats . Joining me now, is senator Bernie Sanders. Glad youre doing well. President trump is refusing to accept reality that he lost the election. How could he try to stay in power beyond january 20th . What level of threat do you think the lack of progress on a transition poses to the country . I am less and less worried about it because as more and more victories statebystate are confirmed for biden, i think public support in any way, shape, or form for the president is now going down but i will say this, jake. Trump will have the distinction of doing more than any person in the history of this country in undermining american democracy. The idea that he continues to tell his supporters that the only reason he may have lost this election is because of fraud is an absolutely disgraceful unamerican thing to do and i would just hope to god he has the decency in him to manup and say, you know what . We fought hard, we lost the election, good luck to joe biden, i love america. The fact he is not even cooperating in the transition and the fact he continues to deny reality and to continue to suggest that biden has illegally won the election is beyond belief in terms of behavior for an american president. Yeah. Its crazy. And its based on nothing. The Trump Administration says it plans to distribute tens of millions of vaccine doses in the coming months once its been approved. Moderna is developing its vaccine with federal dollars. Does the Trump Administration deserve some credit here . Well, i think they put an emphasis on trying to get this vaccine done as quickly as possible. They were not alone. Everybody else worked together. We have a global pandemic. We have lost in this country over 245,000 lives, those numbers are going up every single day. I think common sense suggests that we needed a vaccine as quickly as possible. Now, as you heard dr. Fauci say, the challenge now is once you get the vaccine, how do you get it out to 300 Million People as quickly and as effectively as possible . And i look forward to the Biden Administration working right now, as i know they are, on plans to do that. One of the concerns that we have is that as a result of the pandemic in all 50 states in this country right now, youre seeing million resources, doctors, nurses, hospitals being stretched to tharm limit. Yeah. And we are going to need to figure out a way in congress to deal with that problem. You have vowed to try to push the Biden Administration saying, quote, our struggle is not over, it has just begun. At best democrats are going to have a 50 50 senate at best and very possible republicans will control that chamber. How specifically do you plan to push the Biden Administration to enact these progressive goals when the senate is going to be in the situation its in . Well, as you know, during the early parts of this campaign, the biden folks and our people sat down together and we worked out a number of proposals on some of the major issues facing this country, including health care, including the economy, education, climate change, and so forth and so on. I fully expect that the Biden Administration will be advocating those proposes they agreed to. What i want to say i sometimes find it amusing when were on opponents talk about the far left agenda. The truth is when you talk about raising the minimum wage to 15 bucks an hour, when youre talking about expanding health care to all people as a human right, when you talk about effectively taking on climate change, when you talk about making public colleges and universities tuitionfree, these are not farleft ideas. These are common sense ideas that the majority of the American People support and we are going to fight to make sure that they are implemented. But there are some democrats arguing that progressive voices and policies hurt down ballot democrats in the last election. How Majority Whip Jim Clyburn that if democrats in georgia in these runoff elections coming up we are not going to win, unquote. I hear you on the minimum wage. But on those other issues. Lets refrphrase that. Yeah. Nobody i know who is running for office talks about defunding the police. What we talk about is making Police Officers accountable, making sure that Police Departments do what they can do best, figuring out how you deal with mental illness, how you deal with homelessness, whether those are, in fact, police responsibilities, making sure that the Police Officers are not killing innocent africanamericans, that is not defund the police. Second of all, you go to the people in georgia, lets do a cnn poll. Ask the people in georgia whether everybody in that state should have health care as a human right. Ask the people in georgia whether or not they want to rebuild their crumbling infrastructure and create decent paying jobs at decent wages. I think you will find the people of georgia and people all over this country saying, yeah, we need to rebuild our infrastructure and create millions of good paying jobs. It appears the margins of bidens victory came from the suburbs. And i wonder the way you phrased it is one thing but another way to phrase it might be even medicare for all. A lot of people who voted for joe biden might not want medicare for all. He didnt run for medicare for all. I think if youre wondering a calibration for democrats to win the is not seats . First thought you know, i havent exhaustively studied all of the exit polls. One of the things we do know is that youth turnout was very, very high across the country and especially high in states like georgia. Off the charts, in fact. And young people voted overwhelmingly for biden and young people, by and large, are the most progressive generation facing this country. Also what we looked at and saw is that working people, people making less than 50,000 and less than 99,000 also voted for biden. I think if you ask those people should we create the jobs we need, should we raise the minimum wage, should we expand health care to cover all people in this country, i think youll find the answer is yes. You know, jake, all of my life, political life, no matter what you do, we will be attacked by the establishment, by big money interests. Yet, today, we are living in a nation with massive income and wealth inequality. People are top doing phenomenally well and others are not what congress has to do immediately with a covid package is start protecting the working families of this country. We are out of time. I would like to get a yes or no. Earlier you said you would be interested in serving as commerce secretary. Have you talked to anybody in the Biden Administration . I talked to the Biden Administration. I want to do my best sto protec the people in this country. Senator Bernie Sanders, thank you for being on the show. 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Just more legendary. Chevrolet. Making lifes journey, just better. Welcome back to. Im jake tapper. President trump has said on dozens of cases that coronavirus will disappear and the u. S. Approaches 200,000 new cases of coronavirus in the United States and cases are exploding across the country and including in ohio which had over 8,000 new cases on friday. Joining me now, is the governor of ohio, mike dewine. A report from the Coronavirus Task force this week said ohio has vast and unmitigated Community Spread with, quote, no evidence of improvement. How much worse do you expect this to get in ohio and why . Why does it keep getting worse . Jake, i think people are tired. As dr. Fauci said, there is the fatigue that set in and also the experts such as dr. Fauci all the time told us that when we got to the fall and it got colder, we were going to see an uptick. I dont think any of us thought we would see an uptick like we have. A month ago, a thousand people were in our hospitals in ohio, just a week ago, we had 2,000. Now we have over 3,000. So its rolling through ohio. You know . We had a mask order on that we put on in july. It still remains on. We have agents tomorrow for the first time who are actually going out into the different retail establishments to make sure that the people are, in fact, wearing a mask. If youre a clerk at a grocery store, youre 65, you may be diabet diabetic, you have every right to expect that the people who come through there have a mask on. While there is good compliance in many places, we have some, unfortunately, that are outliers and we are going to work to take care of that. You warned this week of the toll on Health Care Staff and you said the critical question now is whether youre going to have enough healthy and qualified Health Care Workers. Hospitalizations in hospitals, in ohio, you noted at a record level. How much longer until your Health Care System is just overwhelmed . Well, we are certainly not overwhelmed yet, but we monitored this every day. We have a good system in ohio we set up early on with three different zones in the state and the bigger hospitals taking care of the smaller hospitals, but we have already seen some of our major hospitals pull back this past week in regard to some elective surgeries so we dont like to see that and dont like to see any health care delayed so there that is an early sign that certainly there is a be pro. The other think, as you pointed out, we have Health Care Workers who have run a marathon and now we are asking them to run another marathon. When i talk to the people of ohio about wearing masks, when i talk about, you know, keep down these social events, be careful, its for these health workers. We have to protect them. We got to do everything that we can to help them and you talked about Community Spread. Its exactly what we have got. We have got significant Community Spread and, you know, my message every day to ohioans is that this Community Spread endangers your grandparents who are in a nursing home. Once in the community and widespread, it will eventually get into that nursing home. Our kids, we lied to have our kids in schools and our Community Spread is threatening it. We have to pull back because enough bus drivers or teachers that need to be quarantined. These are things that are naturally starting to happen. Each one of us sick of this and tired of us. One, if we wear a mask, we are keeping our kids in school and we are protecting our elderly and we are protecting our hospitals. And, two, the good news is that we got this week, you know, the vaccine is coming. Yeah. And, you know, its coming in december. And so we can see the end of this. We just have to tough it out, tough it out for, you know, a few more months and do what we need to do so we can get through this so that, you know, when the light comes out and everyone is getting vaccinated. Yeah. You know, we are all here and we can enjoy baseball or whatever we love to do. Governor, lets talk about the vaccine. When it has been approved and manufactured, do you have we are ready. It doesnt mean there wont be potential glitches. Nothing runs perfectly but, you know, our team has certainly been working on this and, you know, we are waiting anxiously. The last we had from the word we had from the white house, i think the first batch they thought was about 30,000 doses. So we will start, you know, to try to surround our people who are in Nursing Homes and protect them and the way we are going to do that, of course, is to give the vaccine to the workers there because the workers, thats how it comes in. If you can vaccinate your workers, then youre putting a shell around and protect the most vulnerable. Then we will move out from there. You heard earlier in the show dr. Fauci say that from a Public Health perspective, obviously, being able to work with the incoming Biden Harris Administration would be better than being blocked and President Trump, because he is refusing to acknowledge the reality of his loss, is still blocking the formal transition with the Biden Harris Administration. President trumps former chief of staff john kelly said in a statement, quote, the delay in transitioning is an increasing National Security and health crisis. Do you share those concerns, that this delay could actually ultimately hurt the American People and that the transition should start as soon as possible . You know, jake, i think we have to have faith in our judicial system, faith in our electoral system and id say this to both sides of this and i was certainly a supporter and remain a supporter of the president , but the president has every right to go into court, every right to bring any kind of evidence that he has and no one should begrudge him or say that there is anything irregular about that. On the other hand, its clear that certainly based on what we know now, that joe biden is the president elect and that transition for the countrys sake, its important for a normal transition to start through and the president with can on his other track, the legal track and we should respect that, but we also need to begin that process. Governor mike dewine from the great state of ohio, we are thinking about your citizens and hoping for the best for you. Thank you so much for being with us today. Thanks, jake. Coming up, the devil went down to georgia and even he was shocked at the political ads on tv. The two races in one state that will decide the senate. Democratic candidate for senate reverend Rafael Warnock will join me next. Stay with us. Has been amazing. Its not just a work environment. Everyone here is family. If you are ready to open your heart and your home, check us out. We thought for sure that we were done. And this town said not today. I got it all from you im always pushing through i know well make it to the finish line i know youre waiting on the other side im like you ondemand glucose monitoring. Because theyre always on. Another lifechanging technology from abbott. So you dont wait for life. You live it. Welcome back to state of the union. President elect joe biden flipped georgia blue for the First Time Since 1992 but the entire political world is still focused on georgia with moaning pouring in and celebrities weighing in, even people trying to move there with a pair of Senate Runoffs that will determine the balance of power in the u. S. Senate. Joining me now, is u. S. Candidate for senate in georgia, the reverend Rafael Warnock. We should note we invited his opponent republican senator Kelly Loeffler to join us and she declined. In the election you received 45. of the vote and collins and loeffler had of the vote. Why did so many georgians vote for president elect biden and not for you . Good morning, jake. Its great to be here with you. We are in a very strong position in this race. I got in on january 30th. Im a firsttime candidate. And while folks are focused on the people who were at the top of the ticket, the fact is there were 21 people in my race, 21. And there were 10 people with a d next to their name. And because the names were listed alphabetically and my name is warnock, i was the person next to the last person on the list. And i finished first handily. Far ahead of a candidate who is the wealthiest member of congress who poured millions of dollars into this race, and we finished in a strong position. There is no question in my mind that as georgians hear about my commitment to access to Affordable Health care, the dignity of work, the work ive been doing for years, standing up for ordinary people, we will prevail come january 5th. So with control of the senate in the balance, your race and the other race in georgia between oshoff and perdue has taken national importance. People are trying to tie you to democrats in washington. Take a listen. Now we take georgia, then we change america. That is democrat leader chuck schumer. You heard him. He plans to take georgia so they can change measure. Georgia, dont let meese radicals change america. That is the republican senator from florida, just south of you, talking about chuck schumer, the democratic leader. Now youve tried to keep your message, as you just did, focused on economic issues, health care. Do comments like we just heard from senator schumer nationalizing your race, doesnt that hurt you . Listen. This is a georgia race and im georgia. I grew up in savannah, georgia. My church is in atlanta. Im pastor of the spiritual home. Martin luther king jr. I grew up in public housing. 1 of 12 children in my family and im number 11 and the first graduate of a fouryear graduate of a college in my family. I know personally the importance of good federal policy, combined with personal responsibility, work grit, and determination. That is the reason im able to run for the United States senate. I am and iteration of the American Dream and im running for the senate because that promise is slipping away from far too many people and that is what this race is about. The fact the matter is, jake, voters dont vote for politicians. Its this this race is not about me. And Chuck Schumers name is certainly not on the ballot. Ill tell you what is on the ballot. Health care is on the ballot. Access to Affordable Health care. We got 500,000 georgians in the medicaid gap and we got 1. 8 million georgians with preexisting conditions. If Kelly Loeffler has her way, people who have asthma and people who are hypertension, diabetes, these are folks in my family and in my church, folks who are survivors of cancer, may find themselves without health care. And that is what this race is about. And that what i will continue to lift up even as i move across the great state of georgia. People are responding to that message and that is why we are in such a strong position. She will try every desperate attack she can make, but this race is about the people of georgia. Yeah. Let me ask you about one of those attacks. Because senator loeffler keeps mentioning on the campaign an incident from 1995 when you air youth pastor at a new york church with a speech hosted by fidel castro. Did you attend the speech . And do you understand why there are so many people who view castro as a murderous tyrant and not someone to be celebrated . Ill tell you what i understand. I understand why kell loeffler is trying to change the subject. I was a youth pastor. I had nothing to do with that program. I did not make any decisions regarding the program. Ive never met the cuban dictator. And so im not connect to him. Ill tell you whose names are on the ballot. Rafael warnock and Kelly Loeffler. This race is not about anybody else. And so while she tries to tie me to these personalities that i dont know, and seeks the endorsement of a fifth century war monger, ill be focused on health care in georgia. But do you understand why so many people view any celebration of fidel castro as celebrating something ugly and tyrannicals . I think you just called him a tyrant. He was a murderous thug. I get this is a distraction. But do you understand why people would be abawlppalled by anyone celebrating fidel castro . America is my story even possible. I am proud of my country and what makes me love america is, in spite of whatever challenges we have, there is always the path to redress our concerns, to make the country better. I grew up in public housing, and here i am running for the United States senate against the wealthiest member of congress. I understand the struggles of ordina ordinary people, and thats what this race is about. America haualways has a path to lift people who are at the bottom so they can live the American Dream. I know that story. I am an embodiment of it, and i want to make sure that the kids that i run into whose sense of hope has been eclipsed in this dark and difficult time know that they have a path. I am not going to give into the demagogues of division and distraction, people who have no vision, engage in division. Aisle goi i am going to do the things i have been doing all my years as pastor of Martin Luther king church, bring people together so we can push through this terrible pandemic and get our country going again. Reverend, thank you so much for taking the time to talk to us today. We really appreciate it. Thank you. There is a lot of deference being given by republicans in washington, d. C. , to the Trump Campaigns legal efforts. So lets take a look the a them because while the president can lie on twitter, judges need facts. They need evidence. Trump claimed, for example, that republican election observers were banned from being present in the Philadelphia Convention center for vote counting. Thats a lie. The issue was whether the observers could stand six feet or 20 feet away, not whether or not there were Trump Campaign observers there. There were. In court, judge paul diamond, an appointee of george w. Bush, ended up pressing the Trump Campaign lawyer. Quote, are your observers in the counting room . Marcus admitted there is a nonzero number of people in the room. Oh, yes, a nonzero number. I am asking you as a member of the bar of this court, the judge said, are people representing the plaintiffs, the Trump Campaign, in the room . Admitted the trump lawyer, yes. This kind of thing has been playiou playing out all over the country. The standar in georgia, the Trump Campaign alleged that proper chain of custody was not maintained for 56 ballots. 56 ballots in a state that president elect biden won by more than 14,000 votes. The 56 ballots during the canvassing process. The judge found that the claim was unsupported. Case dismissed. All over the country its been like this. In wisconsin, trump allied lawyers contesting a biden win tried to stop the certification of votes claiming they could prove fraud. Okay. Where is the proof . The lawyer said, quote, evidence will be shortly forthcoming. In other words, we dont have any evidence. Same basic thing in michigan. They tried to stop the counting of the vote based on what Michigan Court of claims judge stevens called inadmissible hearsay within hearsay. Its been, frankly, embarrassing. No evidence, unprofessional, desperate. Increasingly Trump Campaign lawyers seem to realize being involved in factfree desperation efforts to overturn the results of a free and Fair Election might not necessarily enhance their resumes. The Trump Legal Team in arizona, and just me, you do not want to know about the crazy sharpie nonsense they were pushing there, that legal team has folded up their tent. Other law firms have withdrawn their representation from the Trump Campaign. On friday, nine cases from trump and his allies intended to attack an undue president bidens victory in key states. Nine cases rejected for dropped. Nine. So what now . Well, now the president of the United States is literally embracing a deranged Conspiracy Theory that millions of votes were changed using software. The problem here, a group of national, state, and private Election Officials issued a statement thursday promoted online by the cybersecurity czar at the department of Homeland Security with this sentence bolded. There is no evidence that any Voting System deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised, unquote. The problem with republican officeholde officeholders arguing that President Trump has his right to present his evidence in court is that the president s efforts do not have anything to do with evidence. They have to do with hearsay and rumor and insinuations and lies and conspiracy theories. Once these efforts have been rejected by every court, outgoing President Trump will likely continue to make them. How long is the Republican Party going to continue to defer to unhinged mendacious desperation led by the gang that couldnt sue straight . Thank you for spending your sunday with us. The news continues next. customer hi . burke happy anniversary. customer for what . burke every year youre with us, you get fifty dollars toward your home deductible. Its a policy perk for being a farmers customer. customer do i have to do anything . burke nothing. customer nothing . burke nothing. customer nothing . burke nothing. customer hmm, that is really something. burke you get a whole lot of something with farmers policy perks. See ya. kid may i have a balloon, too . burke sure. Your parents have maintained a farmers home policy for twelve consecutive months, right . We are farmers. Bumpadum, bumbumbumbum burke start with a quote at 1800farmers. Americans from both parties. 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Im Fareed Zakaria coming to you live. Today a special show. All of the guests have held high positions in republican administrations from reagan to bush to trump. They are trying to steal an election. They are trying to rig an election. We will spend the entire hour with them examining this unprecedented moment in america. As donald trump continues to delegitimize the american election. There will be a transition to a second Trump Administration. First, what are americas friends and f