We talked about it. We talk about it all the time. The Third Quarter will be better than okay, larry thinks better than okay even more so than i do and i think Fourth Quarter will be great and i think next year is going to be a tremendous year for this country. Jennifer . Reporter [ inaudible ] responsible, as the secretary mentioned, what exactly yes, well be responsible. They have a team of people, theyll bring in additional people, and again, i want to assure the American Public and the american taxpayers, we will make sure these certifications were done accurately or the loans wont be forgiven and there will be liability. Reporter Mitch Mcconnell today told [ inaudible ] phone call does not want to Fund Infrastructure in a coronavirus stimulus bill. Do you have a reaction to that . I think mitch is looking at it as i do to an extent as the infrastructure he likes infrastructure, we all do, we have to rebuild our country. 8 trillion has been spent. I wasnt in favor of it, i can tell you that, in the middle east. 8 trillion, think of it. And you wanted to fix a pothole in a roadway or in a highway in this country and, uh, you couldnt do it, they didnt have the money because so much money was spent in the middle east. Its a whole different story now. We want to do infrastructure but a lot of people, a lot of the republicans would like to keep that as a separate bill so well see how that works out, jennifer, well see. Please. Reporter you said at the top of your remarks that the majority of the pandemic is behind us. Without a treatment and a vaccine, states now reopening, how can you be so sure . I think that like other things, uh, were going to be hopefully were going to come up with a vaccine, you never know about a vaccine but tremendous progress has been made, Johnson Johnson and oxford and lots of good things youve been hearing, the same things as i do. Tremendous progress has been made, we think, on a vaccine, you always have to say think, and then you have to test it and that takes a period of time. But, uh, a lot of movement and a lot of progress has been made on a vaccine. But i think what happens is its going to go away. This is going to go away. And, uh, whether it comes back in a modified form in the fall, well be able to handle it, well be able to put experts, were very prepared to handle it. Weve learned a lot, weve learned a lot about it, the invisible enemy, its a bad enemy, its a very tough enemy but weve learned a lot. Its the in 184 countries as you hear me say often. Its hard to believe. Its inconceivable, should have been stopped at the source which was china. Should have been stopped very much at the of course but it wasnt. Now we have 184 countries going through hell. But i think that, uh, i think that, uh, a lot of good things are going to happen and i really believe that Fourth Quarter is going to be maybe tremendous. And the next year i think has a chance to be really, uh, getting close to record setting, we hope so. We hope we can be back where we were. We had the strongest economy anywhere in the world and i hope we can be back there again. Reporter mr. President , youve spoken about your friend who passed away. I was wondering if you spoke to the families of anyone else who has lost loved ones to covid19, if theres any particular stories that have affected you. Well, i have many people, i know many stories, ive spoken to three, maybe i guess four families, unrelated to me. I did, i lost a very good friend. I also lost three other friends, uh, two of whom i didnt know as well but they were friends, people i did business with, probably almost everybody in the room did. And its a, uh, its a bad death. Its a bad thing. It grips on to some people. Now we found out that young people do extraordinarily well. Thats why i think we can start thinking about schools but of course were ending the School Season so, you know, it wouldnt be probably you wouldnt be back for too long. I notice where purdue university, a great school in a great state, wants to open and have students come in. I think thats correct. Uh, some colleges, i think i saw harvard wants to have students come back in the fall. I would hope that they would have students. I think that the whole concept of computer learning is wonderful but its not tele, telelearning, but its not the same thing as being in the classroom in a Great College or a college of any kind, college, university. Theres nothing you cant replace that. So hopefully theyre going to be coming back. Young people do very well with this horrible scourge, they do very well. So i am going to, uh, see you tomorrow. And well have other things to talk about. We have a lot of interesting things. All right. President trump talking to reporters in the east room of the white house, i believe. Welcome to the lead. Youve been listening to President Trump talking about the latest in the coronavirus pandemic and the fight against it as the u. S. Reaches another grim milestone this afternoon. The number of confirmed coronavirus cases in the United States has now topped 1 million. Cnns Kaitlan Collins is at the white house for us right now and kaitlan, President Trump, again trying to shift the blame. Reporter well, and jake, arteries no its notable that the president is taking questions in the east room. He doesnt normally take questions there. This comes during a divide on whether President Trump should continue press conferences after what happened on thursday with the fallout over his remarks about potential treatments for coronavirus and what he said about household disinfectants and whatnot. But the president is still finding a way to take questions for the second time today. You saw him there saying he believes were soon going to be at that benchmark that experts have said the u. S. Needs to hit a 5 million test per day. Of course a reminder, weve only just hit 5 million tests overall. I believe the Vice President said yesterday it was 5. 4 million tests done in general in the United States. Now the president is saying he hopes they can up their daily basis of those tests. And of course the question is really going to be how are they going to do that. The new guidelines they talked about yesterday didnt specify how theyll ramp up testing, and governors say thats key to reopening their states. The president didnt mention a deadline of 5 million a day. We should note were not close to that at all right now. Right, and were going to talk to dr. Anthony fauci later in the show about that and other issues pertaining this. Thank you, kaitlan. Joining me now is cnn chief medical correspondent dr. Sanjay gupta. Sanjay, lets talk about the fact that these experts who have these projections of what the death toll and the infection rate will be, they have again revised the death toll, this time up, to 74,000 by august. Partly, they say, this is because states are relaxing social distancing guidelines; is that right . In other words, are the governors making decisions that will theoretically lead to more deaths . I think that thats feeding into this for certain. Going up, you know, as high as it has, you know, keep in mind, jake, weve been talking about this particular model for some time. About a month ago, i think almost exactly a month ago, the toll was around the projection, i should say, for these tragic deaths, around 90,000 people. And then i think you and i both saw it go down to 60, 68,000 people. And i think at that point the point was that the stayathome orders were having an impact. We were starting to see that impact. And now as they start to get revised upwards i think theres two things that are feeding it. The point youre making, if you start to relax, something we know has had a positive benefit, youre going to start seeing the numbers go another way. I think the other thing, jake, i follow these curves. We talk about flattening the curve but it was still supposed to be a curve. With a youre seeing in some of these places is more of a plateau. It almost seems like in some of these places people saw a certain amount of benefit and either are relaxing it and were not seeing the numbers start to come down as they should. The curve is just staying plateaued for a while, which i think is also feeding into these module models. It should be going down in some of these places and it hasnt yet, the concern is were seeing a little bit of an upward trend as well as a plateau. Were following that very closely. But i think those two things are driving that increased sad death toll. Of course theres a big difficulty here for leaders, whether President Trump or governors, how do you balance the economic catastrophe going on versus the risk to lives. I guess the question i have for you is would this type of spike that the modelers are projecting, would that occur no matter when economies begin to reopen, at least until theres a vaccine . I think there would be an increase no matter when, because, you know, this is a contagious virus, its still out there. When we start opening things up, there are going to be people who get infected that otherwise would not. But not a spike like this, not a spike like these imhe modelers are predicting. This is a significant spike, a 25 spike, if you go from 60 to 75,000, roughly. So its significant. So i think your point being that the virus is still going to be out there is true, and you are going to have to have a calculation at some point. But i think, jake, what has struck me is that there were very specific gating criteria here that were based on, you know, the best data. We need to see a 14day downward trend. The reason you say that is because you get down to a low level of enough infection that you start bringing what is called that rnot, the likelihood of spreading it to someone else, you want to bring it down to below 1. Thats how you make this virus start to fizzle out. Were somewhere around 3 right now. If you can bring it down below 1, youll start to see significant impact. Thats what the 14day trend in part was based on. Many states arent following that. That was federal guidelines, guidelines, admittedly, but pretty easy to follow and understand but obviously a lot of places not following them. Sanjay, ive been told Health Experts would expect anywhere from 2 to 4 of those tested for the virus to be positive. But the numbers that were seeing are much higher than that. 8 in california, 19 in georgia, 35 in new york, 17 across the u. S. Is this just a matter of who is being tested . Whats going on here . Yeah, i think its in part because, you know, we still havent doing good surveillance testing. You know, people who are getting tested for the most part are going to be higher risk people. And you are more likely to get positive results in that population. But i think theres two things here. In order to get real prevalence, like out of 300 and whatever, 45 Million People in the country, how many people actually have this, we dont know. We dont know the answer to that question. And obviously to really know it you would have to test everybody which were not going that would be very hard to do. But you can start to extrapolate what the number is likely to be in terms of prevalence. And according to some of these studies, some of these antibody studies, you know, you start to look in new york, for example, they said the number was 15 , the city of new york, closer to 20, 25 . We dont know what it is in other places. But for the time being, the virus testing, instead of focusing on the numbers, which i get that people want to say how many tests a day do you need to perform, what you really want to see is that the Positivity Rate drops below 10 . Thats not telling you how many people out there have it. It tells you youre starting to test enough. Youre seeing enough negatives. That means your penetration of testing is starting to feel more adequate. In georgia where i live, were closer to 20 , double where we should be, yet thing are still reopening. It means we still havent done enough testing. Dr. Sanjay gupta, thank you so much. As always, coming up, the leading model, revising the death toll upwards, whats behind that. Stay with us. Hey friends i got up, i put make up on. I have jeans on, who is she . Family run sometimes you like modify a recipe and its so good your girl, is still losing, this afternoon, the u. S. Passed another grim, tragic milestone. More than 1 million in the nation have been confirmed infected with coronavirus. And the death toll in the United States from coronavirus now stands at 57,812. At this time a month ago the death toll was 2,043. For context, about 58,000 americans died in the vietnam war over a nineyear span. Were close to losing that Many Americans to coronavirus in only three months. And now the leading u. S. Coronavirus model from the university of washington has raised its projected deaths, predicting 74,000 lives will be lost in the u. S. Just by august. Cnns erica hill takes a look at how these new projection models show reopening states too early could bring negative outcomes. In my mind, its inevitable that well have a return of the virus or maybe it never even went away. When it does, how we handle it will determine our fate. Reporter at least a dozen states pushing forward as new models suggest the country could face a major setback if change comes too soon. Our forecast now is for 74,000 deaths. Theres a lot of unknown factors there. But our best estimate is going up. Reporter the updated model often cited by the white house also predicting there could be longer peaks ahead if restrictions are eased too soon. If we are unsuccessful or prematurely try to open up and we have additional outbreaks that are out of control, it could be much more than that. Reporter harvard researchers estimate the u. S. Needs to test 5 Million People a day by early june to safely begin reopening. The white house testing czar disagrees. So we dont believe those estimates are really accurate nor are they reasonable in our society. Reporter many areas around the country looking to Antibody Testing to better understand the spread. Nearly 15 of the thousands tested across new york state were positive for the antibodies. That number is closer to 25 in new york city. A lot more people were getting infected before it actually started to show up. Reporter in addition to random sampling, states and cities also testing First Responders and front line workers for antibodies. As officials weigh the data, americans are trying to figure out what the coming weeks and months could look like amid new warnings about the economy. I think by june, you know, i think that were looking at numbers between 16 and 20 . The Unemployment Rate at that point will be something thats about as high as something that we havent seen since, you know, the 1930s. Reporter the president suggesting in a call with governors that schools should reopen even if just for a few weeks. Yet 39 states have already decided children will not return to the classroom this school year as concerns grow about a deepening divide. New york city trying to bridge the gap with nearly 250,000 ipads and internet access. Meantime at hospitals, grocery stores, and on the streets of america, front line workers push ahead. Along the east coast today, grateful cities pausing for a flyover. To honor their sacrifice. It was a beautiful tribute. No better place than new york city for them to do this. Reporter jake, just another reminder, as you point out, were reaching these grim milestones certainly in the number of americans who have been lost to this virus. There are also those on the front lines who deserve the recognition for everything that they are doing to keep this country running on a daily basis, jake. Amen. Erica hill, thank you so much. This afternoon President Trump claimed he was not sure if he was warned by intelligence officials about coronavirus in january or february. Despite u. S. Officials telling the Washington Post they sounded the alarm in more than a dozen classified briefings known as the pdb, the president s daily brief. Remember, after those warnings allegedly happened in january and february, exactly two months ago today, in february, this is what thenactingwhitehouse chief of staff Mick Mulvaney told a conservative conference about why journalists were covering coronavirus and the administrations failures to adequately prepare. The reason youre seeing so much attention to it today is that they think this is going to be what brings down the president. Thats what this is all about. I got a note today from a from a reporter saying, what are you going to do today to calm the markets . I said, i might tell people to turn their televisions off for 24 hours. How embarrassing. As cnns Kaitlan Collins reports for us again now, all of these new questions come as the president you do states to start trying to get back to normal. Reporter facing questions about what he knew and when, President Trump says he isnt sure if his Intelligence Briefings earlier this year included warnings about coronavirus. I have to check. I would have to check. Im going to look as to the exact dates of warnings. Reporter the Washington Post reports that trumps daily Intelligence Briefings in january and february tracked the viruss spread and warned that china could be suppressing information all as he continued to publicly downplay the threat. The questions about whether warning signs were ignored come one day after the white house released new guidelines about testing. Were continuing to rapidly expand our capacity. Reporter many governors have said for weeks they dont have enough tests or supplies needed to make the difficult decisions about reopening their states and need the federal government to step in. But the new white house game plan leaves the states in charge and says the federal government should only be used as a last resort. The testing is not going to be a problem at all. Reporter the president says hes confident the u. S. Can double the testing its doing now, though Health Experts have said his proposal for increasing testing falls short of whats needed. While meeting with the Florida Governor today, trump said hes considering requiring coronavirus tests and temperature checks for those arriving on international flights. Were working with the airlines with that, testing on the plane. Reporter today the president is also expected to use the defense production act to require Meat Processing plants to remain open. Were working with tyson. Reporter some of the countrys biggest Meat Processing plants have been forced to close and stop operations after thousands of employees tested positive for coronavirus. Raising questions about worker safety and possibly threatening the u. S. Food supply. By signing the executive order, a white house official says trump will declare those plants as critical to u. S. Infrastructure and said the Labor Department is expected to issue guidance about potential liabilities. Were going to sign an executive order today, i believe, and that will solve any liability problems where they have certain liability problems. Reporter while touring the mayo clinic in minnesota today, the Vice President appeared to be the only person not wearing a mask as he visited with Health Care Workers and plasma donors. For two weeks now the mayo clinic has required all patients and visitors to wear masks or face coverings. While pence was still there today, the clinic tweeted that it had informed him of its policy before he arrived. Now, jake, shortly after they sent out that tweet the mayo clinic then promptly deleted it. We should note the Vice President is getting tested for coronavirus on a weekly basis still, as is the president. 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I believe you would like that number to be closer to 12 million tests a month, right . Right. Well, what were doing right now, its very clear from the guidelines that came out, the the blueprint for testing clearly indicates something that we really have to do. There has to be a partnership between the federal government and the states. The federal government has to provide strategic guidance as well as technical assistance. We had a phone call with the governors where that was explained. I mean, obviously when you say you put tests out there, jake, one of the problems has been is the tests getting to the people who need them or are there tests out there that are not connecting the dots. What were trying to do, and i believe that was pretty well articulated to the governors, was if thats not happening, if were not connecting those dots, we need to help them do that. We cant just leave them on their own on the one hand, and the federal government cant do it by itself on the other hand. We have to be having a productive partnership. I believe most of the governors have resonated with that. We havent gotten it perfectly for sure, we know that. Obviously you call around, a lot of people feel okay about whats going on but others still need to connect those dots. Thats what were working on. The issue about tests is that as we get into the next weeks to several weeks to a month, as we get into may and june, from what were hearing, and im telling you, jake, what were hearing, from the people in the task force who deal directly with the companies, namely the major firms that make the test, this is predominantly admiral giroir are telling us well have increased production so by the time we get to those months, well have what we need. Im always the skeptic in the group, i always say, okay, i hear you, i believe you, but lets see what happens. Lets see what happens. As you know, and you and i have tabblked about this issue, its more than the tests themselves, its the testing supplies, the swabs, the reagents, the lab employees, the lab equipment. I want you to listen to these governors, reflecting both democrats and republicans. Broad Antibody Testing needs the federal government and especially the fda to step up and give states and providers a lot more guidance than we have now. We keep asking for masks. We keep asking for gowns. We keep asking for the reagents. And im tired of asking. So that was Charlie Baker from massachusetts, a republican, and ned lamont from connecticut, a democrat. Theyre begging for federal help because they say, governors in general say they dont have the ability, unlike President Trump, to force companies to manufacture reagents or ppe or more. What do you say to them . No, i mean, listen, when people like that who in good faith are calling out for help, i tend to believe them and resonate with them. So the thing we have to do, jake, we have to help them. And you know, at the last meeting, when we did speak to the governors, what admiral giroir had in front of him was a flowsheet of all the states, the tests they have, what they need, and the point was made to them that if in fact you still dont have either the tests or the material to do it, we will call you up and we will try and connect you with the pathway to get that. But theres going to be more of a reaching out. And the fact that we have to do that means that what youre hearing is true in some respects. It isnt perfect yet by any means. But as every day and week goes by and we have more tests and we try to get the people who are making these other materials, these swabs, these extraction material, these media, i mean, obviously if they dont have it, we have to get it to them. But i believe, jake, that we are going strongly in the right direction. I think what gets confused is that when they say that, when you hear admiral giroir talk about the number of tests that are out there, that the people who dont have them say, wait a minute, whats going on, whats the truth here . The truth is that were going in the right direction but we need to continue to partner in a very active, collaborative way with the states. We need to help them the same way they need to do the execution. And were going to get there. But its you know, as i said before, and every time i do it gets taken a little bit out of context, not by you but by some, who say it isnt perfect and were not there yet, and were not, but were going to get there, were going to get there soon, i hope. When do you think . When will it all be up to speed . When will everybody who needs a test be able to get one . Yeah, and i like the word you used, jake, when you said need, because a lot of times people say, i want a test, and its not part of the strategic approach. But needing is important. Everyone who needs a test, according to the way were approaching the identification, isolation, contact tracing, keeping the country safe and healthy, hopefully we should see that as we get towards the end of may, the beginning of june. Jake, thats what im being told by the people who are responsible for the testing. I take them for their word. If that doesnt happen, im going to go to them and say, what happened here, why didnt it happen and how can we fix it . It seems like theres so much about this virus that we dont know. And in fact the cdc just added a whole bunch of new symptoms to the description. Were also seeing i think some accounts of young people first of all, were hearing doctors sharing stories of increased blood clotting in patients, especially young people, more prone to strokes, neurological impairment. Tell us about uncovering, the discovery, the mystery of this coronavirus and when well know enough about it to solve and come up with a vaccine. You know, thats a great question, jake. As you were describing that, it was minding me of the early years of hiv aids, when we were trying to figure out what i would call in fact thats the name of my group, the immu immunopathogenic section in my laboratory, is trying to look at the pathogenesis, a big word to mean how does the virus do its damage and what are the primary and secondary affects of infection. It took us a while to delineate that completely in hiv aids. And were having the same experience now. Were seeing things that werent quite noticed in the big chaos of the explosion of cases, first in china, then europe, and now in the United States. But now were starting to see things that on the one hand are puzzling but on the other hand are enlightening. And i say theyre enlightening because they can inform us and open up maybe more modalities of treatment. So there are two major buckets of treatment. You directly treat the virus by an antiviral agent, by an antibody, by whatever it is that you put in there to block the virus. But then the virus triggers things in the body that as we see more about it, we say, wait a minute, maybe theres an avenue of treatment of being able to block the secondary, often deadly effects of the virus. And one of them you mentioned quite clearly. When you look at autopsies right now, were seeing things we didnt expect. We thought it was primary viral pneumonia because people would have ground glass appearance in their chest xray, which is indicative of involvement of the lung. Then we have thrombi, which means platelets happen and thrombuses form. When that happens, the oxygen in the blood doesnt work. That may be why people who are in that situation seem to be doing well and all of a sudden they rapidly and dramatically deteriorate. You know, as a physician whos taken care of acutely ill patients for a good portion of my career, when you see somebody sitting around looking well and immediately drops, thats probably a cardiac arrest, but if someone deteriorates very, very rapidly, there are only a couple of things that can do that. One of them is youre bleeding out. The other one is youre having thrombi or blocking of blood vessels. And thats one thing that i think we really need to pursue. The reason i say that, jake, is because theres treatment for that thats above and beyond the treatment of just ant viriviral. Together with the Neurological Institute at the nih, were putting together protocols, and others, were not the only ones doing it, to determine if thats the cause of deterioration in addition to the virus. We have to aim at two goals. We have to block the virus but we have to do something about those secondary effects. These are the things that are emerging right now that are both fascinating and informative. So we have a lot to learn. Its opening up the door, i believe, to some interventions that might be helpful. Thats fascinating. Dr. Fauci, as always, thank you so much for your time. We hope to have you on again soon. Always an honor. Thank you so much. Always a pleasure to be with you, jake, thank you. Back with me now is cnn chief medical correspondent dr. Sanjay gupta. Sanjay, i want to get your reaction to what dr. Fauci just said. First of all, very interesting riff he had there at the end about this the mystery that theyre uncovering when it comes to this virus and why it is its not just about the lungs, its also about, you know, microthrombi, i think he referred to them. Explain to people what they just heard and why thats significant. I think the significant thing was that, you know, we think of a respiratory virus like this as something that, you know, primarily is going to affect the lungs, primarily cause a pneumonia, and thats what, you know, the expectation was, i think, for a lot of doctors, understandably, respiratory therapists trying to treat these patients. Different things started to emerge, one of the first clues was people were starting to lose their sense of smell as a first symptom. Why would a respiratory virus cause that . What dr. Fauci was just talking about, and there was a few reports on this this week, that it seems to also, as a first symptom, again, cause people to have increased blood clots, blood clots that may form in their legs and go to their lungs, called a pulmonary embolism, go from elsewhere in their body to the carotid artery, causing strokes. What we called the car, what people first called the horseless carriage because everything was in the context of horses still, its like were trying to put this virus in a box, a respiratory box. Were learning this virus is behaving unlike a lot of viruses. It is a coronavirus, its a respiratory virus in terms of how it spreads. But how it behaves in the body, it may into the be the not be the lungs it first affects. It could be other organs. Dr. Fauci said there was a lot we still have to figure out. Why are young people, mostly its rare for young people to get very sick and die but it happens. Why . Whats happening in their bodies thats different in some ways . I think thats what he was referring to, jake. Very interesting. He also acknowledged the testing isnt where it needs to be in this country, which of course is obvious. He thinks that we as a country are going to be able to get to a place where everybody who needs a test, not the same thing as everybody who wants a test, but everybody who needs a test will be ramped up and, he hopes, by the end of may, early june. What do you make of that . I think a lot of people are going to need a test. I mean, im not sure the need want sort of differentiation ends up being that critical here, because in order to do theres people who dont know if they need a test or want the test. But theyre going to have to have a test if theyre going to go out in Public Places where they are not going to be able to physically distance and have the confidence to do that. I, i mean, there was a report that just came out, another one from the Harvard School of Public Health, that is now saying that we may need by june to be at 5 million tests a day. By the end of summer we may need to be at 20 million tests a day. If you look carefully at the white house plan in terms of what they were saying, they were saying theyre sort of looking at 2 im sorry yes, 2 of the country being tested a month. So thats roughly 6 to 7 million tests a month. Whereas youre hearing we may need to be a 20 million a day by the end of summer. So, i mean, yes, dr. Fauci is right, weve certainly improved and i think a lot of people are focused on the absolute numbers here. But the reason the Harvard School of Public Health and others have said we need to be testing at that level is to basically get an idea of just how many people out there are infected and to start to get an idea of what sorts of industries, businesses, can be reopened. Were not anywhere near that right now, jake, in most places. Yeah, the admiral in the Coronavirus Task force, admiral giroir, talked about how they dont agree with that harvard study, not surprisingly. Dr. Sanjay gupta, thank you so much. 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President trump says hes confident the United States has enough testing to reopen the country but a new cnn investigation finds not only is there a critical shortage of testing supplies at smaller labs, hospitals, and states across the country, but many of the supplies that do exist are being handed over to big commercial laboratories before going to hospitals, clinics, and small labs. As cnns drew griffin reports for us now, now hospital groups and medical associations are begging the White House Task force for help. Reporter what the president says at his briefings confident that we have enough testing to begin reopening and the reopening process. Reporter is not the reality at labs across the country. Every day is a striuggle. Reporter a cnn investigation finds a critical shortage of covid19 testing supplies at many labs is delaying and halting testing. And the supplies that are available are often distributed unevenly, leaving big commercial labs with everything they need while some hospitals, clinics, and other medical centers dont have enough. I knew we needed capability to do a thousand tests a day. And we didnt have that. Reporter shes ceo of premier Health Hospitals system who sent a letter earlier this month to ohios governor saying inequitable distribution of reagents, needed to perform tests, was impacting patient care standards. We kept running into anecdotal information from vendors who said they had reagent but they couldnt sell it to us. And so that was of concern to me. Reporter different labs need different supplies. For some its swabs. Others, pipettes or reagent. Multiple Health Care Facilities tell us what they order is not what they receive. They tell us the order has to be canceled or we only get 10 of what we order. Reporter meanwhile the biggest commercial laboratories like quest and labcorp tell cnn they have the supplies they need. The big labs make up more than half of all testing in the United States, more than 3 million tests so far, though experts say the inequity is leaving critical Health Care Facilities, where sick patients go to get tested, without necessary supplies. I think its a disgrace. So to prioritize testing to be sent out away from hospitals that may have the capacity to do inhouse testing is basically contrary to all the principles of optimal patient care. Reporter the heads of major lab associations have been writing directly to the task force, asking for help, like carmen wily, with the American Association for clinical chemistry, describing significant barriers to testing because of a shortage of necessary supplies. We feel theres a disconnect between the theoretical capacity and what were actually able to do. Reporter some state governments also complaining about lack of supplies. Washington, d. C. s Health Director says its only able to do half the tests it could if it had proper supplies. This document, shared with governors, obtained by cnn, shows the federal government discussing barriers to testing including insufficient laboratory personnel, funding, and supplies. Today were releasing Additional Guidance on testing to inform the states. Reporter monday the white house released a blueprint for change that critics say changes little. States and local labs fend for themselves for precious supplies, adding to confusion, scarcity, and lack of tests where theyre needed most. Overall testing numbers are inching up while experts say we need leaps. Jake, Vice President pence again promising millions of tests a week, very soon. A promise hes made before and not kept, jake. Drew griffin, thank you so much. Moments ago from the white house President Trump praised the federal loan Program Helping many Small Businesses stay afloat. But the program is not without problems, as weve been covering for weeks. The latest development, the nbas Los Angeles Lakers are the latest big money operation to dip into funds intended for Small Businesses without access to capital. The l. A. Lake verse nrs have no returned the money. Plus more technical issues are plaguing the second round of loans. Our Business Editor julia chatterley joins me. Julia, theres a multimillionaire business owner, a presentfriend of the presiden got a loan while Small Businesses are finding it difficult to get a loan. Technically there was no foul play here, jake, but its like two basketball players walking onto the court and saying, lets play. Is it fair . No, its not, but its not illegal. The lakers, shake shack, ruths chris steakhouse are among those giving back millions of dollars. How much overall is being returned at this point . This is a great question. The Small Business administration tweeted yesterday that over 2 billion have been declined or returned from the first round. Thats going to be added into the current pot. Its small in terms of the whole size, but its big in terms of Small Businesses that are still desperately waiting for the money. And i think thats the point here. The second round of loans opened yesterday. Lenders are worried the 310 billion could be gone in days. Does it appear that will be the case . Its guesswork. The rules have changed. There were hundreds of thousands of applications. This pacing going on in terms of the number of applications for the banks per hour, the most consistent message im hearing, jake, is a week. But i reiterate, its guesswork right now. Is there still an advantage for working relationships between lenders, companies, and the Small Business administration, do you think . The best advantage i think is being advised by your lender not to take this ppp money and being found an alternative. I think its working better this time around. Businesses can apply for as much as 10 million, mnuchin said. Today the Small Business administration is going to review all loans over 2 million. Is that a lot of money for a socalled Small Business, 2 million . Never mind the 2 million, jake, the cap on the Lending Program is 10 million, and it makes no sense to me. It means in order to get forgiveness, a small, Small Business hafs to be paying payrolls of 7. 5 million every two months. How many mom and pop businesses do you know that have that kind of a payroll . Make it applicable to only the Small Businesses in this country. I would have done that from the beginning, but nobody is listening to me, jake. Julia chatterley, thank you as always. Weve been talking for weeks with mental Health Experts who warn that Front Line Health Workers will be dealing with post Traumatic Stress from the pandemic for years. Now weve learned of an emergency room doctor who took her own life on sunday after working on the front lines of this horrific pandemic. Dr. Lorena breen who worked in the Columbia UniversityIrving Medical Center had been treating patients with coronavirus in the heart of the epicenter of this pandemic worldwide. Breen told her father that her colleagues were working 18hour days, they were sleeping in the hallways, they were trying to care for the influx of covid19 patients. She described how ambulances had to be turned away at the hospital because the hospital was at capacity. Dr. Breen herself contracted coronavirus after tirelessly working in the emergency room for weeks. She took just a week and a half off before returning to work to help save others while still battling symptoms. Dr. Breen was admitted to the hospital and treated for exhaustion. Days later, she took her own life. Her father phillip called her a hero saying, quote, she went down in the trenches and was killed by the enemy on the front line. She loved new york and wouldnt hear about living anywhere else. She loved her coworkers and did what she could for them, unquote. May dr. Breens memory be a blessing and a reminder of the stress and trauma endured by all the medical heroes fighting against coronavirus. They will need to be taken care of as well. If you or someone you know is having any suicidal thoughts, please call the National Suicide prevention lifeline at 18002738255. Our coverage on cnn continues right now. This is cnn breaking news. Welcome to our viewers here in the United States and around the world. Im wolf blitzer in the situation room. Were following breaking news. The number of known coronavirus cases here in the United States now topping 1 million, accounting for all third of all confirmed cases worldwide. More than 57,000 americans have now lost their lives in this pandemic over the past two months. Close to as many as lost their lives in the vietnam war over many years. And the influential model often cited by the white house is now increasing estimates of how many more people could die by early august. Earlier this month, that projection was about 60,000. But thats now