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D. C. Department of health, the director saying this. Director garcia, the District Of Columbia has been working for the centers for Disease Control and prevention at Howard University hospital to monitor any patients displaying symptoms associated with the ebola virus. There are no confirmed cases of ebola in the District Of Columbia. Once again, were monitoring that situation. And here in dallas, look at this, theres a Hazardous Materials team at the apartment where the ebola victim was staying. Earlier they were turned a i way until it gets permission required to transport hazardous waste. In the meantime, four people came in to contact with the ebola patient remain quarantined inside the apartment. In ebola, a cameraman working for nbc news has tested positive for ebola. Ashoko mukpos parents say that hes leaving liberia on sunday to head to the United States. Thomas eric duncan answered no on a questionnaire asking whether he had been exposed to ebola. And had been helping ebola patients. The president of liberia is angry. With the u. S. Doing so much to help us fight ebola, hes gone there and set up, and in a way put some americans in a state of fear. And put them at some risk. So i feel very saddened by that and very angry with him, to tell you the truth. Lets get an update now on how officials in dallas are handling the ebola cases as well as what airlines are doing to try to reassure nervous travelers. Rene marsh is here with me and Martin Savidge is in dallas. What are you hearing about the possibility of restrictions of flights to west africa. They are all saying at this point there is no indication, no plan to tell airlines to stop flying to this region. And you know, when you talk to a lot of these experts, they believe stopping or putting these restrictions on these airlines in place could do more harm than good. We did speak to brussels airlines, one of the three carriers this man was flying from liberia to brussels. And their reason, they say that its their humanitarian duty to continue to fly there. Theyve got to get medicine there, Health Care Workers there. If you clamp down on these airlines, the concern is how do you get the necessary supplies there. At this point, no indication that they will stop the flights. Martin savidge is in dallas. Martin, the Dallas County health and Human Services director certainly understandably trying to combat fears about this one confirmed case of ebola diagnosed in the United States near to where you are. Listen to what he said on new day today. Most people see the Ebola Outbreak in africa and, therefore, the fear that it could happen here in the United States, specifically in dallas, is understandable. But at this point, the family has been monitored, there is no outbreak and so, therefore, everyone should ease their fears and allow the Public Health officials in this state and from the cdc and local Health Department to respond to this issue. Martin, youre there. Youre a man on the scene. Is the situation under control . What does it look like . Reporter you know, it depends, really, if you look at the situation now. Were at the apartment complex where Thomas Duncan was staying and the woman described as his partner and several other family members continue to be quarantined. Youll see that now youve got the dallas fire rescue hazmat team that has shown up on the site. On top of that, theres a private contracting cleaning crew. All of this comes as a result of Anderson Coopers interview yesterday with the partner of Thomas Duncan. She had a shocking revelation when she said that all of the sheets, all of the mattress, the towels, everything that duncan had used, even though he was suffering from ebola, was still in the apartment complex. I think that shocked a lot of people because it would have been assumable that been one of the first things you do is getting everything out that was contaminated. We saw the dallas city officials trying to organize something. A cleaning crew showed up last night and then were turned away because they didnt have the Property Authority to transport the waste that they were going to clean up and collect and haul out of the apartment. So this is where you get the plan versus the reality and apparently thinking about disposing of ebola waste coming from a residence had not been part of the original plan and this is what worries the public, that even though on paper everybody says theyve got a good, working secure plan to protect the neighborhood and those who may have come in contact, they look at scenes like this and see the first initial diagnosis and say, wait a minute, what you say versus what we see are not adding up. Rene, what are you hearing . We now know, just adding on to what martin is seeing on the ground, a special permit will be issued by the end of the day. That coming from a source. The special permit will allow a Waste Management company to essentially remove the materials inside that apartment as well as within the hospital where this man is. The issue, according to this source and why it took so long, is they needed to find a contractor who could essentially handle all of this waste and dispose of it safely. And that Company Needs to have a plan for how they are going to do that safely. Were hearing this special permit will be issued by the end of the day. And quickly, martin, how are they doing in locating those hundreds of people that may have been in contact with this ebola patient . Reporter well, they have a special team. The cdc has ten people on the ground here. They divided them into two separate teams. They are, one, focused on the hospital staff and emergency staff that initially came in contact with the patient. They are tracking down and looking at how serious their contact was. Some of them are going to be deemed as very serious because they interacted with the patient and others only communicated. And the same is being done within the community. We dont know how far along they are on the list of 100. We assume its going down but if it goes down, that means they are going to find those who have had direct contact, those are the ones that they want to keep a very close air on. We expect today more information. Were going to keep showing these live pictures, the hazmat team working at the apartment where the ebola patient stayed before being admitted into the dallas hospital. It was certainly only a matter of time before an ebola case was diagnosed here in the United States and now were following developments, as i said, here in the d. C. Area as well. Theres a patient there with what is described as possible ebola symptoms that was admitted into Howard University hospital. Lets talk about this and more with dr. Sanjay gupta, an Infectious Disease specialist joining us from london, institute for International Humanitarian affairs. Sanjay, lets get some perspective now on what is going on here in washington. This patient who just arrived from nigeria, im told, about a week or so ago, has some symptoms, some diarrhea, some fever but im told that theres a really, really low chance that this could be ebola but out an abundance of caution theyve isolated this individual, they are hydrating this person. But they dont really think its ebola. I guess thats the smart thing to do even though nigeria engineer yeis one of the places that has done an excellent job of spreading ebola. There are a Success Story with how they have been able to contain it and dont have evidence of ebola now. I think there is always a flag that goes off when you have somebody who has traveled from that part of the world and has symptoms that may be consistent with ebola. But keep in mind, and i think youre making this point, wolf, that there is a lot of things that could look the way this patient does and cause these sorts of symptoms. Its a graphic, its a busy graphic, wolf. Take a look. The highrisk people, people that you know youve had direct contact with their bodily fluids, they have to be tested. On the far right of the screen, people with no known risks, they are generally not going to need testing. Its the people in the middle, did they have contact with somebody perhaps maybe someone in their household, a health care person, not sure. You review those cases more care carefully and then make a determination whether they should be tested or not. They may put that person into isolation and wait for those test results to come back. They come back negative, the patient free to go. They want to find out what is causing his or her symptoms but its ebola that wont be on the list anymore. Im told, sanjay, its a little confusing, that at least for now the cdc, the centers for Disease Control and prevention decided not to do an ebola test. They are monitoring this person, hydrating this person and for some reason they dont want to do an actual ebola test, at least not now. What do you make of that, doctor . As sanjay said, coming back from west africa you can have a huge number of the problems. And so its really important not to fixate on the ebola. Its important to isolate the patient to be nursing them so theres not a risk of transmission but then they have to be treated the way we treat any other patient. A test by the cdc would involve the transport of bloods, its quite expensive and theres not necessarily a reason to do this in everyone. Whats more important is observation and waiting. I dont think its irresponsible to do and it sounds like they are monitoring it very carefully. They are doing the right thing at Howard University hospital. Sanjay, quickly, how long does the ebola test take before you get a result . In other words, you draw some blood and how many hours does it take to learn if the patient is positive for ebola . Pretty quickly, within a few hours. What has been happening is they want to get a test and then a confirmatory test. They sent a sample to the cdc in atlanta as well for con firm ma confirmation. I saw it getting done in field hospitals within a few hours, wolf. Please sand by. Were going to check back with you a little later this hour. Weve got a lot of questions from our viewers out there and around the United States and around the world. Were going to try to answer some of them. More of the news coming up. Also, an american is now believed to have joined the fight against isis taking up arms with rebel forces in syria. Well update you on that. Also, much more on the Ebola Response as the pentagon now preparing to mobilize more u. S. 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I saw a line and i would estimate dozens of Police Officers walking and members of the crowd were shouting, put away your rubber bcatons. Im going to show you, they walked up over this way and towards that bridge right there, it leads to a Police Building where we know that protesters have set up a blockade and have been attempting to stop supplies from entering. Get over here and talk to us. Tim schwartz, tell me what you saw. Well, there was a lot of Police Coming in to apparently change shift in the building here. The protesters tried to stop them, put their hands up, they forced their way through and there was no outright violence. They were angry and shouting at them and we saw a few people knocked over, one guy being crushed by the railing. I hope hes okay. I think he is. A few people seemed to get light injuries. In the end, the police formed a barrier and these students started calling for calm. Reporter and so, wolf, this is tsignificant. You can see the volume of people that are here right now. The numbers have been increasing throughout the night. We have many thousands lining the streets after a day that was pretty quiet. Only a handful of people were here throughout the day. I say a handful. Still in the hundreds. But we are now looking at a number well into the thousands despite torrential rain here in hong kong. People seem to be galvanizing. There have been flash points in front of the chief executive office and pro occupy and antiprotesters were shouting insults. The police were involved there. The police have to stay pretty hands off until right now and it goes to show the tension, the fact that uniformed officers, just their mere presence created an up roar in this crowd. Everybody started chanting in uniform, things like peace. Its a very tense situation because a lot of people here feel its only a matter of time before the Hong Kong Police and a lot of people speculate perhaps the pla, Chinas People Liberation Army will come up here and disperse the thousands of people that have lined these streets for nearly a week, wolf. That could be a very dangerous and ugly situation if that were to happen. Will ripley on the scene of breaking news in hong kong. Later this hour ill bring in jon huntsman, the former u. S. Ambassador to china. Hell join us live to give us his assessment of what is going on. Also, when Thomas Duncan went to the hospital with symptoms, the dallas hospital made a huge, huge mistake. Were going to take you to another hospital that will talk about what is being done to prevent future mistakes. When i had my first migraine, i was lucky. That sounds crazy, i know. But my mom got migraines, so she knew this would help. Excedrin migraine starts to relieve my pain in 30 minutes. 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Were not going to be treating patients the troops are not equipped to do that. That is not their job. We are going to help establish the infrastructure, health facilities, emergency treatment units, that kind of thing so the Health Care Workers can do their jobs. Lets bring in democratic congressman elliott engel, the Ranking Member of the House Foreign Committee affairs. You agree with this decision to send 3600 u. S. Troops to liberia to these other countries of west africa to deal with ebola . Yes, very much so. The way were going to control the ebola virus is by controlling it right at its heart in west africa. And only the United States has the ability to do that. I think its a very excellent decision to send our people in there. Why do you say only the United States . Why not the europeans . Why not britain or france or italy or belgium, the scandanavia countries . This has to be a global effort. It was a global effort but the United States kind of led the pact. I think its the same thing here. It is a global effort. But our military units from other countries, are they being deployed to that region . Do you know . As far as i know i dont know. They may be in the future. But we know what we have and what we can do and what we can do to help. I dont think we have to wait for to see what other countries do. I think we need to move quickly. Again, thats the only way were going to contain this virus. It has to be contained at the source. The problem, of course, in africa is that they dont have running water. They dont have all of the things that we are used to having in western society. And so we have the expertise to try to build those facilities and try to make those hospitals better so that we can, again, attack this outbreak at its source. Theres been one confirmed case, an ebola patient, as you know, in dallas, texas, here in the United States. And as you also know, there have been several major blunders by authorities in dallas that obviously have caused a lot of concern out there and theres a lot of questioning about whether or not the u. S. Government knows what it is doing right now. Heres the question, congressman. Do you have confidence that local, state, and federal authorities are up to the job . Well, i have confidence. That doesnt mean that it doesnt mean any kind of monitoring. It does. And it doesnt mean that mistakes arent going to be made because invariably they will. Yesterday i was on the phone with the usaid chief, rod chaw, and i think things are under control. I think these are things that are fluid, that we have to continue to monitor it each and every day and each and every hour and make sure that we are doing the right things because as we see with this patient in texas, he lied and there were other missteps as well. Its got to be monitored constantly each and every day and each and over hour. Hopefully emergency around the country, indeed, around the world, will learn from the mistakes that were made in dallas, texas, and they wont be happening again. Eliot engel, thank you for joining us. By the way, the president s chief coordinator on various efforts, including counterterrorism, has been involved in trying to deal with these Ebola Outbreaks. She and other senior officials will hold a briefing at 3 30 p. M. Eastern. Cnn will have live coverage. Shes the assistant to the president for Homeland Security and counterterrorism. She will be joined by dr. Sebelius and the institute of allergy and Infectious Diseases and the administrator for the u. S. Agency of development and the commander of the United States Africa Command the u. S. Sending 3600 troops to west africa right now. So a major briefing by the administration coming up at 3 30 p. M. Well have live coverage here on cnn. Still ahead, the confirmed case of even in dallas raising major concerns. Our experts getting ready to answer your questions about ebola. And u. S. Hospitals are certainly learning from mistakes made in dallas. Were hoping hospitals all around the world are learning as well. Were going to show you what should have happened when Thomas Duncan showed up at the emergency room with a fever in dallas, texas, and his own travel history. Stay with us. Yquil but im still stuffed up. Nyquil cold and flu liquid gels dont unstuff your nose. Really . Alkaseltzer plus night rushes relief to eight symptoms of a full blown cold including your stuffy nose. breath of relief oh, what a relief it is. Thanks. Anytime. Ive got a nice long life ahead. Big plans. So when i found out medicare doesnt pay all my medical expenses, i looked at my options. Then i got a Medicare Supplement insurance plan. [ male announcer ] if youre eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80 of your part b medical expenses. The rest is up to you. 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Ashoko mukpo is due to fly back to the United States on monday. Eric duncan will need to be monitored for possible ebola symptoms, those words from the commissioner department of state health services. He says they are going to monitor 50 people to make sure they dont. The response of Dallas Health care officials should set off huge alarm bells around the world. Workers at Texas Health Presbyterian hospital gave them antibiotics and actually sent him home despite the symptoms. Doctors were not aware that he travelled to liberia even though he told a nurse he just arrived in the United States from liberia. The big question a lot of americans are asking right now, are u. S. Hospitals properly equipped . Are their staffs adequately trained . Kyung lah walks us through one hospitals protocol. Reporter the first line of defense in containing an Ebola Outbreak in the United States are our nations hospital. This is the emergency room. Like all emergency rooms, theres a checkin. At this particular hospital, a registered nurse does that checkin if you have nausea, headache, and have traveled to west africa. This hospital ebola virus protection protocol kicks in. There are signs all over the hospital asking if patients have traveled in the last three weeks to west africa. Is that enough to raise alarm . Its certainly enough to raise an alarm. Reporter do they ever end up sitting in the waiting room . No. People would have a risk of being exposed to the virus. Containment is the key here . Containment is absolutely the key. They will be brought, maybe depending on how sick they are, transported by a gurney and transported to the isolation room. Whats the first step for the Health Care Workers . The first step is always to wash your hands. She puts on a mask and then shes going to go ahead and put on her protective goggles. Shes going to put on a gown that is impevious for protection. If i were in africa, i would also use a much higher level of personal protection. But this is more than enough protection from any of the Infectious Diseases that we see. By recommendations for centers for Disease Control, we have a signin sheet and everyone who enters the room will sign in. Reporter this looks like a normal hospital room. Well t. Is a normal hospital room other than the fact it has a special air handling system. Reporter lets say the patient vomits on the sheets. What happens to the sheets . It doesnt matter whether they vomit or are just on the sheets. All of the patients on the sheets who are suspected of ebola are disposed of as a biohazardous waste. I think the case in dallas, if the cases before were a wakeup call, really has made everyone very aware that all hospitals need to be prepared for the possibility of seeing someone coming from west africa who has ebola. That report from kyung lah. Hospitals not only in the United States but in europe and asia and africa, south america, all over the world. Lessons need to be learned. Just ahead, as fears grow over ebola, many people are deeply worried about how the disease is spread. Our experts are joining us. Were getting ready to answer your questions. The conference call. The ultimate arena for business. Hour after hour of diving deep, touching base, and putting ducks in rows. The only problem with Conference Calls eventually they have to end. Unless you have the comcast business voiceedge mobile app. It lets you switch seamlessly from your desk phone to your mobile with no interruptions. Ive never felt so alive. Get the future of phone and the phones are free. Comcast business. Built for business. All right. Lets get right back to hong kong. Will ripley is standing by. Theres major action going on right now. Will, what are you seeing right now . Reporter let me walk you through what happened in the past few minutes. We heard an up roar in the crowd. People started shouting police, police. When we looked up at the pedestrian bridge, we saw a line, dozens of Uniformed Police officers walking along the bridge which takes you directly to a Police Building which is right there. Right there where you see all of those people walking up, all of those people gathered. Thats where the Police Building is. You can see what happened ex ne. They forced their way through a barricade that the protesters had said up. They kept repeating that they were unarmed and kept carrying supplies that delivered to a large contingent of Police Officers that were inside that building right now. They have been essentially camped out because the protesters have been blocking the supplies and blocking the entrance to that building. But it was quite a scuffle, as you see in the video, and we have a young man caught right in the middle of it all. His name is raymond and hes 24 years old. Hes just now back i understand that you were actually thrown to the ground at one point. Yes. Reporter tell me, are you doing okay . Yes, i am okay now. Reporter take us through what happened, raymond. The police go along the bridge and then theres a barrier in front at the corner and then they just keep pushing and then the police pushed us along and then go to the another barrier at the entrance and then just pushed me to the wall and then pulled me out of the area and kicked me. Reporter so you were kicked and pushed but the officers were unarmed. Is that what you saw . Yes. Reporter talk to me about why this created an uproar. Everybody was immediately alarmed as soon as the uniformed officers were spotted. Talk to me about why that was so concerning to you and other protesters here. They just go up and there are many people and also they just this is the second time to try to protect that barrier and this is the second time they climb there and then the barrier was set up by me and my friend because we want to stop so that the people on the bridge can go downstairs reporter so they can move peacefully . Yes. Reporter but the police have a different side of the story, wolf. They say that protesters have been blocking supplies from getting into that building and they were very determined to enter that building and thats exactly what they did. But theres growing fear here in the heart of this protest that this is only one small sign of what may be to come. The inevitable in the view of many people here action on the part of the city of hong kong and they fear beijing itself dispatching perhaps its Peoples Liberation army, 6,000 to 10,000 troops. Theres a lot of concern that at some point they are going to try to break up this whole operation and i can tell you, even here in the Early Morning hours, wolf, thousands of people continue to line these streets and the mood is certainly shifting. Its been peaceful for much of the week but there have been clashes around the city and now the biggest incident that weve seen since that incident on sunday when pepper spray was involved happened in a few minutes when those uniformed officers entered the building. When you say uniformed, i want to be precise, uniformed and armed officers or just uniformed officers . Reporter they kept repeating and you can hear the officers saying, we are unarmed. Unarmed. One officer was carrying a baton. We know that officers do have riot gear available. We saw them a couple of days ago with riot shields. They were containing shields believed to carry rubber bullets. They have the capacity to deal with the crowd but none of those were used tonight. They forced their way through the barricade to get supplies to the officers. They have issued repeated warnings to all of the protesters here saying if they do not disperse from in front of government buildings this is a main thoroughfare normally full of cars and its been closed for nearly a week now. Theres Financial Hardship as a result of this. Government employees had to stay home today and the city of hong kong says that if this doesnt disperse soon, there will be very serious consequences. We dont know what that is going to look like but maybe we got a preview of that tonight. Its approaching 2 00 a. M. In hong kong. Stand by, will. I want to bring in the former u. S. Ambassador, jon huntsman. You spent a lot of time in china and hong kong. You see what is going on, governor. What do you say . Whats your analysis . The first reaction and having stood on that same street many weeks ago is that youve got a chief executive in hong kong who has very little legitimacy and credibility, he came to power in 2012, is not respected by the protesters and others involved. The other part of the equation is, youve got this anticorruption campaign. He cant afford to make a mistake. Hes got to be very careful in terms of what he chooses to do. The way that this is navigated is going to have to be a very narrow approach. The options are not great but they can take a hard line against the protesters. Thr going to have to find a compromise to get them off the street. How worried should we be about this being another Tiananmen Square . What gave hong kong its uniqueness and freedom, its ability to eject a bright light of competitiveness across the world could be compromised on the democratic principles. I think the longer term is really the risk that is being run. The crowds will gather, hong kong people are passionate about their freedom. But longer term, diminishing the democratic prospects of hong kong could carry longterm implications that could be very harmful. And further complicating the situation, a relatively new development. Other protesters, the prodemocracy protesters. Theres obviously the police. But now increasingly there are some residents opposed to those protesters. They dont like this area being shut down. They are not going to work, they are losing money and there could be a clash between hong kong residents who support the protesters and those who oppose the protesters. Well, thats right. You have 7 1 2 million in the crown colony. Youll have a lot of partisans who are in favor of china. And china will encourage many of them to get unorganized. Thats just the way they operate. It wont be unusual to see people wearing shirts that represent that they are in favor of what chinas endeavoring to do longer term and those basically committed to the Core Principles of what hong kong was founded upon. I want to you stay with us. Were going to continue watching the breaking news on the streets of hong kong. Goemp governor, much more after this. Stay with us. Sea captain theres a narratorstorm cominhe storm narrator that whipped through the turbine which poured. Surplus energy into the plant which generously lowered its price and tipped off the house which used all that energy to stay warm through the storm. Chipmunk theres a bad storm comin narrator the internet of everything is changing how energy works. Is your Network Ready . Thats why theres a listerine® product for every mouth. One to clean your whole mouth. One for those hard to reach places. One to protect kids mouths from cavities. Even one to freshen breath onthego. 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Its probeijing. They choose candidates that will be elected into office. Thats what has built up to this protest. Theres no one single leader. Theres no one group thats organizing this. These are students who have come out and who on sunday unarmed were pepper sprayed by Hong Kong Police causing tens of thousands of citizens in this city to fill the streets and show support for these young people. That was the only incident of violence that we saw. The rest of the week police havent shown a presence here because there was a backlash and people were angry to see police using tear gas on students who are now joined by people of all ages who are out here because they want to demand the same thing. Democracy. Tonight as tension grows in this city, you mention its a city divided. Each day that this protest goes on, each workday, people are losing money. Businesses are forced to stay closed. Some smaller businesses are in danger of going under. Theres a group of people here in hong kong who are tired of this and growing more angry with each day that this continues and thats why were seeing now clashes popping up in parts of the city and theres a lot of tension, a lot of concern, about what the police are going to do to try to disperse this crowd. So when a convoy of uniformed officers tried to enter that government building up there, everyone rushed toward that area and started shouting and you saw video on the pedestrian bridge of the confrontation as the Police Forced their way through a barricade that protesters set up. Be careful over there. Jon huntsman is still with me. Former ambassador to china. You say china is less concerned about the global image and far more concerned with maintaining control. This is a huge problem that they face right now. Its a huge problem. One of the things on the mind on the new leader in china is how you maintain domestic stability at a time when you have 700 million internet users, people who use social networking to band together to get messages out with lightning speed and deal with that environment pushing for change with oneparty system that doesnt want to accommodate change as quickly as population would like it brought about. What should the u. S. Be doing and saying about these demonstrations in hong kong . I think the United States without talking about principles for which we are famous throughout the world but the asia pacific region. We have a name brand. Its freedom. Liberty. Human rights. Open markets. We should be saying something about the importance of preserving the stability of hong kong and why recognizing the underlying principles of free Market Economics and democracy have made hong kong great. They should never be jeopardized and we should stand up in preservation to speak to preservations of those principles. A tense time over there. Lots at stake. Not only for the people of china and hong kong but for people all over the world. Well watch it very closely. Governor, thank you for joining us. Governor jon huntsman. Thats it for me. Thanks for watching. 5 00 p. M. Eastern later today the situation room. For our international viewers, Christiane Amanpour starts after a quick break. For viewers in north america, newsroom with randy kaye starts right at the top of the hour. Big plans. So when i found out medicare doesnt pay all my medical expenses, i looked at my options. Then i got a Medicare Supplement insurance plan. [ male announcer ] if youre eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80 of your part b medical expenses. The rest is up to you. Call now and find out about an aarp Medicare Supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. 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