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The other seven meet in an earlier forum. We are joined now from the debate site in cleveland. Gloria borger is here with me in washington. David, youre there. Youre on scene. Its just hours ahead of all of this getting going. Donald trump is promising to be very civil. Thats what he says. What do you think the chances are that hell be able to keep that promise or do you think hes just really going to be unpredictable and we have no idea . Reporter i think hes going to keep that promise, brianna, right up until somebody takes him on. The moment that happens, all bets are off. So i do think hes trying to enter into this debate sort of staying above the fray but he has said very clearly if somebody hits him, hes going to hit back harder and weve seen evidence of that already on the campaign trail. He is what is amazing, brianna, he is totally unpredictable. He is the wild card in this race which is not how you normally describe the guy that is the formidable frontrunner at the debate. Thats right. Normally that would be the slow and steady guy. David really has a point here gloria. I think its mike tyson who said everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth, right . Right. And then all bets are off. We already know that trump has a plan if he gets punched in the mouth. Which is . Counterpunch. Punch you in the mouth. I will say this and i talked to a couple campaigns about this theyre not planning to go after donald trump tonight. Theyre not going to outtrump trump. That would not work for them. The campaigns have some zingers that they intend to use if they if donald trump goes after them but they probably would rather keep it in their back pocket and not use it unless they really have to do that. Yeah and if they have to show some sort of strength or Something Like that. David, jeb bush this is obviously a key time for him. He is number two to donald trump in the polls right now but considerably behind. How important is this for him . Reporter i think its a pretty big moment. He wants to be the adult. Hes obviously this first debate brianna, comes at a really rough week for jeb bush. He stumbled a little bit in trying to tell a joke monday night at a forum in New Hampshire and stepped in it with a comment about Womens Health that democrats seized upon and jeb clearly has something to prove here. Its not that he has to prove he is deserving a spot on the stage. I think what he has to prove here is that he can do this that hes disciplined enough and skilled enough and i think he just wants to leave the evening having assuaged any concerns that are starting to bruin side the republican establishment. You know i think the person who is probably going to be attacked if any one of them is Hillary Clinton but also jeb is probably going to come in for a few attacks whether its about his age or being part of a dynasty or being out of touch with the republican party. And i agree with david. I think jeb bush has to show a passion that we havent seen and he also has to show that he just doesnt want to be the next ceo of the Family Business right . Hes got to figure out a way to say, yes, im a bush but i am my own man which is something as you know he has been struggling with for the last couple of months. This is what i want to wonder what i wonder if you have donald trump standing right next to jeb bush and jeb bush has this objective that he wants to come in and show that hes passionate isnt it imagine were sitting here, if youre if i know that youve been calling me a loser and pathetic it is hard to not to not have that rub off on how im presenting myself. But thats where the president ial thing comes in. I think donald trump needs to look president ial and jeb bush needs to look more president ial. Theyre going to outpresident ial each other. Theyre all going to try to do that whatever that means, by the way. I think jeb wants to portray himself as the adult in the room without being boring without losing passion, and without being just another bush. How do you, david, if you are one of these candidates who is towards the end of the stage here perhaps kasich say, how do you create a moment that takes you from being almost an asterisk in the polls or really just getting a little bit of support to i guess, appealing to people whether its through your personality and also through specifics about your policies when you only have 60second shots of this . Reporter well john kasich already scored one victory, right, brianna, hes on the stage. Hes the home state governor here. Hes the late entrant into the race. Seems like it was a smart play for him to get in get that attention from his announcement creep up in the polls pretty quickly and catapult over rick perry onto the debate stage. And christi, Chris Christie of new jersey is at the other end of the stage. What you were talking about gloria and, by the way, ive never heard gloria call you a loser. Nor pathetic. She only says nice things. Reporter but what you were saying about the proximity to each other, i do think having these fiery characters Chris Christie and john kasich with enough physical distance from that Top Tier Center of the stage with trump, bush and walker, that i do think creates a pretty interesting dynamic. Its not as uncomfortable to go across the stage to make your attack if you want to. Its also going to show you the discipline i think, of some of these candidates. It wasnt too long ago we were all saying oh, Chris Christie hes the bully in the race right . And now all eyes are on donald trump and if trump were to attack Chris Christie or Say Something untoward the question is whether christy would have the discipline to hold back on that or not and, you know in his case in particular i think it would take an awful lot of discipline and well have to see how all of these candidates behave. Again, the key word is president ial. Right . You want to be on that behind the podium looking like you actually belong behind another podium at the white house. Its so important. Gloria thank you so much. And a reminder that cnn is going to be hosting the second Republican Debate on september 16. The candidates are going to gather at the Ronald Reagan library in simi valley california. The democrats are now setting their debate schedule the first of their six debates will be right here on cnn. And cnn senior washington correspondent joins us now to talk about this. When and where for the first debate jeff . It will be october 13 in las vegas, nevada and if Hillary Clinton, of course will be center stage with the rest of the democrats who are running. Senator Bernie Sanders, former Maryland Governor Martin Omalley former virginia senator Jim Webb Lincoln Chafee the senator from rhode island and well see if thats it. Theres still a question mark hanging over will there be any other democrats in the field. So thats what were looking at between now and october, october 13 in las vegas in nevada. Its one of the four early states. We still have david chalian, right . We dont. Okay. Ill put this to you, gloria, you look at that debate stage where you almost need more people on that debate stage. You want to recruit some people maybe to make it a little more feisty. Who knows, maybe its still going to be feisty but its such a different situation, the field, and this is the most visual representation how different it will be between the two sides. If you look at the debate stage, the republicans, the big boy debate it is big boys all boys. The debate stage, the democratic will have Hillary Clinton, a question that we have no answer to whether, in fact joe biden would get in this race. But i think in the democratic debate it would all be kind of all of them ganging up on Hillary Clinton and some of them like Martin Omalley are complaining why is the Democratic National committee in charge of all of this because we want to have more debates because we want to get our name recognition up and theres a skepticism that the dnc is really on hillarys side. Right. Governor omalley his team came out fairly strongly saying its unfair to only have one debate in every early state. They want more debates. Well see i dont think the dnc will change their mind at all but well see if other groups are hosting forums and things. Of course he is trying desperately to get out of the basement. Hes at about 1 . Hes been squeezed sort of between Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton. Certainly a great effort for him. Jeff zeleny gloria bornlg yeahger. Like the one we will be seeing tonight, former congresswoman michele bachmann. She ran for president last time and shes joining me now from minneapolis. Congresswoman, thanks so much for joining us to talk about this. Its great to get your firsthand insight on this. Sure brianna. You know both sides of debate success and also debate stumbles from almost really launching your campaign into contender status with one debate to making a comment about vaccines you sort of paid for later. So knowing how you really navigate this situation, what are these candidates thinking as they go into tonight . Well every emotion in the book but i think most importantly each one of the debates this particular year in itself is a political super bowl. There are very few debates comparatively speaking. I was privileged to be in 15 president ial debates. 15. We wont see that many this year on either the republican or the democratic side. So for the increased number of candidates that we have each one will have to make their mark and i believe what the American People are desperate for is a strong commander in chief, and there is one issue that is in a league of its own and thats dealing with whether or not we will see iran become the wealthiest terror state in the history of the world. And so the question will be, how will the candidates deal with this issue of not only a nuclear iran but an extremely wealthy nuclear iran which has stated that they have the intention to act upon their ambitions against both the United States and israel and other parts of the world and how will these candidates deal with this issue . Again, this is an issue in a league of its own, all issues are important, none more important than this and will we see commandersinchief on the stage . Its a pressing Foreign Policy issue i think were going to be seeing tonight. I also wonder lets talk about the personalities in this. One of your great successes was appearing very approachable personable and i wonder what you think about whether we might see some people stumble on some of that specifically im thinking about how these candidates are going to react on the stage where donald trump is there. I imagine if you were debating against him you might not be say, too far away from the lane hes operating in compared to say, a jeb bush. But as you look at these guys and they are trying to maybe not attack him but perhaps channel some of that support that hes getting, what do they do . You know there is no filter between the candidates and the person sitting at home or in a bar or somewhere watching these debates. There is no filter. And so if the candidate has the ability to be able to project their personality through the lens of the camera and into the hearts and minds of voters in the United States. And so this is an unprecedented opportunity and thats why i say that each debate will be a particular super bowl because there will be very precious few minutes. Were looking perhaps at ten minutes per candidate potentially if its even that many that theyll have a chance to speak to the voter, and will they continue because the Funding Sources will begin to dry up very quickly for these candidates. Depending upon their debate performance. And the debates is really the one forum where people do pay attention. They will turn in. There will be a lot of attention tonight just like when cnn hosts the debate. There will be a lot of attention on that night, and so there is a lot of pressure to perform. And so very quickly candidates will be either propelled or stalled, and that means that donations and followers and polling numbers go along. So theres a lot of pressure on each of these candidates tonight, but they do have to be authentic. They have to be sincere and, as you said they need to be approachable and a lot of that is just who you are. You cant cram for this. This is really your life. Who you are and your life is on display that night. And if you crammed, its very obvious that you crammed for this. Youve got to demonstrate and its kind of like if you go back to kindergarten and did show and tell. Thats what this will be. Its a political super bowl but you have to show what you know show and tell and youve got to do it all in a package. And, lets face it there will be a magic moment for a few people, and that will propel them forward. You really do crystallize it when you are showing it to be this very existential fight tonight. We will be watching along with you, congresswoman michele bachmann. Thank you for being on with us. Appreciate it. Thanks brianna. It was great. And coming up, the candidates on tonights debate stage have actually been submitting questions to each other like this. The Supreme Court is not the supreme being, so do you believe that the recent ruling on samesex marriage is the law of the land . Some say they are stirring up drama before the debate even begins. Well discuss that plus will Hillary Clinton be the invisible candidate in the room . The senior spokeswoman for the Clinton Campaign joining me next. Big day . Ah, the usual. Moved some new cars. Hauled a bunch of steel. Kept the supermarket shelves stocked. Made sure everyone got their latest gadgets. Whats up for the next shift . Ah, nothing much. Just keeping the lights on. laugh nice. Doing the big things that move an economy. See you tomorrow, mac. See you tomorrow, sam. Just another day at norfolk southern. Im gonna crack like nobodys watching and eat like i skipped lunch. Why . Because red lobsters crabfest is back. And im diving into so much crab, so many ways. Like crab lovers dream with luscious snow and king crab legs and rich crab alfredo or this snow crab bake. Who knew crab goes with everything . Whoever put crab on this salmon, thats who. With flavors like these, im almost too excited to eat hey i said almost. And now that its back get crackin while you still can. Hillary clinton wont be in the room at tonights Republican Debate but she kind of will be because her name will certainly be in the air. Republican candidates are anxious to show that they can take on the democratic frontrunner and clinton has stepped up her attacks on the Top Republican hopefuls. Karen finney is Senior Adviser and senior spokeswoman for hillary for america, the Hillary Clinton campaign and shes joining us now from new york. One of our reporters, karen, actually im not sure if you saw this but she referred to Hillary Clinton as the invisible candidate on the stage tonight. How much of the republican fire do you expect to be directed at her . Well look theyve made a lot of this campaign actually about directing fire at her. So i think we expect it absolutely but, you know the thing is its so interesting. Theyre trying to make this race about her, and shes actually trying to make this race about ideas and the American People and sort of her ideas for the country, so i think if they choose to make it about a lot about attacking Hillary Clinton, i think they will be showing the American People they wont be talking about ideas and i think that will tell folks quite a bit about what their real motivations are. In fairness karen, Hillary Clinton has been lobbing attacks at scott walker at marco rubio, at jeb bush. Shes in this almost general election fight, it seems like against some of these republican frontrunners. There are a few of them. I want to ask you as well about whats different from what weve se her rhetoric is this campaign ad that has started to run. Its a 2 million ad in iowa and New Hampshire. She talks about her mother. When she needed a champion someone was there. I think about all the dorothys all over america who fight for their families who never give up. Thats why im doing this. Thats why ive always done this for all the dorothys. This is something we did not see eight years ago, karen. This is very different. This is a softer look. This is a very feminine ad, i would say. This is her talking about her mother which we didnt see her do eight years ago. We know Hillary Clinton right now is struggling with what has been a dip in her favorability ratings. Is this part of that trying to reintroduce people and trying to counter some of that dip in the polls weve seen . We had actually always planned to start doing ads about this time because its a good time when people can actually see the ad and theres not a barrage of other ads on television so we thought this was a good time to again, shes been talking about her mother as you know since she launched her campaign. So again, regrounding in these early stages whats her motivation . Why is she doing this . I think thats very important to voters. They want to know are you going to fight for me . Are you going to fight for my family . Why are you doing this . We felt like this is a good time to you know, go back to that story and remind people this is to Hillary Clinton is. These are the things that shaped her values these experiences, and this is how you know she is going to be a fighter for you. The fbi is now looking into the security of emails that Hillary Clinton, that her lawyers have preserved. Theyve turned them over to the state department but they also have them on hand and there is this look into this by the fbi. This has been a stumbling block for her, her emails, the fact that she used her personal server while she was secretary of state. How is the campaign weve seen this coincide with the dip in the polls. How is the campaign confronting this . Is there a plan to try to get past this or perhaps to explain this better . Well look lets be realistic here. This is a politically motivated sort of series of attacks that weve seen. As you know i mean chairman gowdy and his committee, theyve been dragging this out. Theyre now saying it wont be done until some Time Next Year in the Election Year so we dont necessarily were not necessarily expecting that its going to end. Were prepared to fight that fight as long as we need to. Are you saying that there are no valid questions . Brianna, no. No, no no. Thats not what im saying. What im saying is that part of whats going on here is a politically motivated hillary had been saying since november that she was willing to come and testify. We finally have been able to set a date. Shell do that in october. I think that will be a very good thing. She has said she will stay as long as they like and answer all of the questions and, look but, brianna, lets be honest, weve been answering questions. You asked her the questions, lots of people have asked her questions, we put a whole slew of information, made it available on our website, so well continue to answer the questions. Part of whats important here about this is remember hillary herself is the one who said release the emails, let people see them so they can see what i was working on and i think as weve now gone through two cycles of that people have seen gotten a sense of her sense of humor, a little bit of her sense of how she works. So there are legitimate questions but remember that this committee actually was supposed to be about the tragedy in benghazi right . And were so far away from that now. This was supposed to be about how do we make sure it never happens again, and on the fbi piece, we knew about this last week when we had that you know took a few times to get it right. Telephones it was botched. They finally did. Nothing has really changed from last week. We are going through that process. Well obviously cooperate with the process any way that we can. Thats the way weve been proceeding throughout this process, frankly. Were ready for it. Its not going to stop us though from making sure that Hillary Clinton is able to get out there every day and, you know talk to the American People about how she will fight for them. All right, karen finney we understand Hillary Clinton will not be watching this debate tonight but im sure that you will be and we really enjoy checking in with you afterwards to see what you think. I cant wait. All right. Karen finney with the Hillary Clinton Campaign Thanks so much. And coming up ill be speaking with a donald trump supporter about an intriguing phone call about trump and bill clinton. Stay with us. When youre living with diabetes steady is exciting. Only glucerna has carbsteady clinically proven to help minimize blood sugar spikes. So you stay steady ahead. When you travel, we help you make all kinds of connections. Connections you almost miss. And ones you never thought youd make. We help connect where you are. To places you never thought youd go. This, is why we travel. And why we continue to create new technology to connect you to the people and places that matter. Republican frontrunner donald trump may face questions tonight about his relationship with the clintons. A phone call from bill clinton to trump is adding to the intrigue about their ties. An aide to clinton confirms the call happened in late may when trump was decideing whether to join the president ial race and Hillary Clinton was already running. Jeffrey loren is a trump supporter, a former Reagan White House political director and hes contributing editor to American Spectator who is joining us now from new york. So weve heard from the clinton side that the race was not discussed. An aide says that this was bill clinton responding to a few sort of solicitations or calls from donald trump and then he reached oud. Out. Tell us what you can about this call. In writing for the American Spectator we cant endorse candidate so i cant be a trump supporter. Okay. There you go. I wanted to say that for the record. I dont think theres much to this to be perfectly candid. I understand what you understand. I saw suggestions in the Washington Post or there was concern that donald trump was a quote unquote, clinton plant. Donald trump, whatever one thinks of him favorably or unfavorably, hes nobodys plant. So i really dont think theres too much to this. They had a conversation. Theyve been friends, elections are tough. Elbows are out. I dont think theres much more to it than that. Okay. So they were just checking in . Sure sure. Its amazing to think they werent talking about politics. What else is there to talk about . Well they might have talked about politics. I certainly dont think bill clinton was saying to him, you know donald you need to get in there. In a conspiratorial fashion. He may well have mentioned it. It would seem odd if they department didnt mention it. Okay. So lets talk about Donald Trumps plans tonight. He says hes going to be very civil. He says he doesnt want to attack anyone but we also know that hes saying look if hes punched, hes going to counterpunch. Sure. Right. It doesnt necessarily seem like it takes a lot for donald trump to seem like hes been punched and to really get out there. So how is there not going to be some dramatic moment or do you expect hes going to stay true to his word . I think hell be donald trump. You know we used to have a saying in the Reagan White House let reagan be reagan. I think donald trump will be donald trump. And he will rise to whatever occasion is there. What i find very interesting about this brianna, there was a political cartoon from the year 1900 when William Mckinley who had no Vice President at that point is Vice President , he picked governor Teddy Roosevelt of new york to be his Vice President and Teddy Roosevelt was this huge personality and a hero of the san juan war and the cartoon shows this enormous Teddy Roosevelt on a horse in uniform and sitting as a tiny little figure on the horn of the saddle is William Mckinley and that more or less seems to be whats going on here. You have this huge figure looming all over this. He will be there in the flesh on the stage and youve got a group of other guys all smart, all talented. Carly fiorina. She wont be on the stage. Shell be in the earlier event. But theyre all sort of in one way or another trying to figure out how do they deal with him . Yeah how do they do that jeffrey . Shed some light on that. How do they approach this . Do they just pretend hes not on the stage or do they how do they advance their message . I think they have to discuss i mean john kasich has to be john kasich talk about himself, what hes done about governor of ohio. Marco rubio is big on Foreign Policy. He should talk about that. And speaking of marco rubio, there is a story out there in an outlet called d. C. Whisperers which Rush Limbaugh was mentioning earlier today i find very interesting that donors unnamed, republican donors have been telling these candidates that they need to get on the stage tonight and, quote unquote, take out donald trump. I would be amazed if they did that. I mean they figured senator rubio was one of the rips of this advice. Apparently there are others of the consultants that swarm around them. That will be very interesting to see if anybody sort of wants to deviate from this is who i am and this is my record and go down that path. Then i think they might be you know opening the barn door the way they dont want to do it. Yeah who knows what to expect. Who knows whether they would come out on top in that battle. Well see. Jeffrey lord looking forward to chatting with you after this debate. Thanks so much for being on with us. Thanks brianna. Now for the latest on the debates and the candidates head over to cnnpolitics. Com. Andcome malaysian Authorities Say theres nor being washed up. The search for mh370 say theres been no indication of that. Well explain next. Food should be good. Strawberries should sing. Lettuce should be dirty. Dressing, clean. Debates should be healthy. Hatchets buried. Tables should be full. And good food should be good for you. Were not saying these are the rules we should all live by. But its a good place to start. Panera. Food as it should be. Americans. Were living longer than ever. As we age, certain nutrients. Become especially important. From the makers of one a day fiftyplus. 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There are conflicting reports today over whether more plane parts washed ashore on reunion island in the indian ocean. Malaysian Authorities Say pieces of windows, seat cushions and aluminum material have been found but Australian Authorities coordinating the search for missing Malaysia Airlines flight 370 say none of the debris turned over to Reunion Police so far appears to be aircraft debris. So what does all of this mean . I want to bring in our experts. Cnn contributor david gallow the director of special projects for the ocean graphic institution and we have cnn safety analyst david soucy and is the author of Malaysia Airlines flight 370. You hear the Prime Minister saying this one thing that the flaperon last week came from mh370. Experts say, not so fast. Why are we getting so much conflicting information between the plane part and between this other debris . Well were looking at professional investigators doing their job versus people who are under pressure they are political, they know what they have to say, looking at it from a political perspective and under pressure to look like theyre not withholding information so theyre trying to be transparent but theyre being too forthright i think. Theyre say inging too much. Most of these accident investigations we dont get information out to the public for at least a year so the fact that its coming out in pieces like this is horribly difficult for the families. Its really not the way to do it. David, when you see where this flaperon was found, assuming that it came from mh370 that seems like a safe bet, obviously, what we know about the planes last reported position and ocean currents what you know really do you think searchers are looking in the right spot . I think, brianna, they have to look in that spot and maybe other spots as well a bit further out to sea. But i agree with david, too, this is not the way to give information to the families. It brings us right back to the first few days of conflicting information right after the disappearance of the plane. So i think theyre in the right spot but they need better control on information flow. It does feel like deja vu doesnt it . What does this do do you think, to families to people who are particularly invested in this when they dont feel like theyre getting clear answers . To me . Its horrible david gallo, you. Horrible. This is a 516 or 517 days and worse, 516 or 517 nights not knowing where their loved ones are. I think the malaysian authorities have very little credibility to begin with which led to all sorts of conspiracy theories and what not and this is going to make the wounds deeper bring all that stuff up once again. Yeah i think youre right. David gallo, david soucie still ahead, those candidates are cramming for the showdown in cleveland. 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Usually they can only guess what questions will be asked but this year theyre getting a little bit of a preview in the form of videos recorded by their rivals. Except for myself dr. Carson and donald trump, nearly everyone on this stage has spent most of their career in public office. Dont you think wed be better off not electing another career politician . Id like to ask all of the candidates as politicians and nonnegotiators poem who dont negotiate jobs and lots of other things how are you going to make America Great again . Joining me now we have mike duncan the former chairman of the Republican National committee, and katie packer the Deputy Campaign manager for mitt romneys 2012 campaign. Shes now, we should say, just a little note her firm is doing some work for marco rubios campaign. So i wonder katie, to you, before we even get into this idea of what the candidates said what do you think of this idea of them reporting questions for their rivals . Well i dont think its totally unexpected. I think the candidates want to make a little news ahead of the debate and make it clear that these are some of the questions that theyre going to need to provide answers to. But itll be an exciting night particularly for the candidates that we havent heard a lot from in the recent months and lots of opportunities for them to make news this evening. Yeah were certainly waiting to see what the moment is. You never know going into this whats going to happen. Mike i want. Mike i want you to listen to a question from Chris Christie from governor Chris Christie of new jersey. Heres what he said. Please give me your specific plan to reform entitlements in our country. All right. I hear that question mike. Its certainly a question that comes up. How does a candidate approach a question, like specifics on entitlement reform in 60 seconds . Can they do that . Obviously they can. This is spring training. This is the countdown in cleveland. Were starting the process here because were having the first debate here several months later than normal and well end here with the nomination. But weve got 15 months to go. We have six months before anyone gets to vote on this. The specifics and in fact youve gotten people on the stage tonight and very limited time. Were not going to get a lot into the details, which means that theres limited opportunity to make mistakes tonight. Many opportunities to make mistakes. And katie, really like we said there is an unpredictable nature to this. What are you looking for in this debate . Well what im looking for is sort of the get past all of the bluster that were hearing. Donald trump is getting about 22 of the vote. That means that 78 of Republican Voters are undecided or choosing somebody else. Its an opportunity for the other candidates to get to show what it is that they are passionate about and their vision for america. And i think all of them are being looking to make America Great again. Thats not really you know a domain solely for one candidate and i think well get a chance to hear from the other candidates and theyll have to make their case. How much mike do you think well be hearing these candidates taking each other on versus taking Hillary Clinton on . Well i think the focus is going to be on Hillary Clinton. If you go back to trump, thats what he is tapping into. Dissatisfaction with what is going on in this country, the failed policies of the obama administration. Youre going to hear a lot about that tonight and we should be. This is an election about change but really its going to be an election about confidence for the American People. Katie, as a former Romney Campaign official one of the reasons these debates were so key for him is that he appeared more president ial than the rest of the field. In just a very general way and there was some appeal for that for republican supporters. How do you coach a candidate to appear more president ial and how important is this . Well theres a saying that you shouldnt fight with a pig because you just get dirty and make the pig mad and i think when you avoid that you look more president ial. When you keep your focus on the ultimate rival, which is Hillary Clinton. Shes only sort of staying afloat because the republican brand has suffered recently. And i think as we see other republican candidates emerge it will show strength and leadership. We have a real opportunity to defeat her next time and i think that they need to keep their focus on here. Shes ultimately the target. All right. We will see if they take your advice. Both of you. Mike duncan katie parker, thanks to both of you joining us in cleveland. Thank you. Still ahead, the war of words between the president and republicans after yesterdays speech where he blasted opponents of the iran nuclear deal. The Senate Majority leader is now fighting back. Today marks 70 years since American Forces dropped an atomic bomb on japan during world war ii devastating the city of hiroshima. Thousands of people lost their lives that fateful day in 1945. Among them the u. S. Ambassador to japan, caroline kennedy, the daughter of former u. S. President john f. Kennedy. In light of the occasion secretary of state john kerry sought to remind the public that Nuclear Weapons are not just a concern of the past but todays ceremony underscores the importance of the agreement that we reached to reduce more Nuclear Weapons. The stage is set for u. S. Congressional showdown on the iran nuclear deal. Senators have agreed to begin debate on september 8th after returning from a monthlong recess. The president has an uphill battle. Mitch mcconnell made comments a short time ago. The president strikes me at least so far, as treating this like a political campaign. Demonize your opponents, get the democrats all angry and rally around the president. To me this is not your typical political debate. This is an enormous National Security debate that the president will leave behind under the constitution a year and a half from now and the rest of us will be dealing with the consequences of it. So i wish he would tone down the rhetoric and lets talk about the facts. Mcconnell was talking about president obamas comments yesterday when he said those chanting death to america are defining a common cause with the Republican Caucus and congress has until september 17th to vote on the deal that. Is it for me. Ill be back at 5 00 p. M. For our international viewers, amanpour is next. For our north american viewers, Brooke Baldwin is here with cnn newsroom. Im Brooke Baldwin. Youre watching cnn. Lets begin with this potentially huge break in the mystery of Malaysian Air flight 370. Now weve learned of new debris discovered possibility from inside the plane. Im talking about window parts and seat cushions along with aluminum washing up there on reunion island. At least thats what malaysia is telling us. They say they are sure this came from a plane although they are not quite convinced its mh370. This is