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Philadelphia just 100 miles or so from where it took off. Right now were hearing that one person was injured. These are early, early reports. Cnns Polo Sandoval is joining us live from philadelphia right now. What more can you tell us about what happened, polo . Reporter we arrived on scene here to try to get more information. Lets bring you up to speed about what Southwest Airlines has already confirmed. This was a Southwest Airlines flight 1380 providing service from new yorks La Guardia Airport to dallas. A flight that was wheels up late this morning. 140 customers and flight crew on board. One of those customers was taken to the hospital after the plane made an Emergency Landing here at philadelphias airport. A couple things were trying to find out, of course, that is the status of the condition of this passenger that was taken to the hospital, the accident te exten scene were seeing was quite something that played out. One passenger on board that aircraft has reported there was some sort of engine failure that the passengers aboard that flight started feeling before there was trouble with that engine and then some of that shrapnel hitting the fuselage and resulting in the injury of that passenger. Heres what you need to know if travel plans take you to this particular region. The faa has issued a mandatory ground stop for all flights either headed here or through here, so its important for you to check with the airlines if you will be flying, again, to or through philadelphias international airport. The ground stop is currently affecting flights that have left other airports that are coming here right now. Obviously that would potentially help the situation here in the ground to not have airplanes on the tarmac as they try to get to the bottom of what happened. Again, wolf, we are here on scene at Philadelphia National airport where this boeing 737 made this Emergency Landing this morning with one confirmed injury. As soon as we get more information on the ground, well send that to you and the rest of our viewers. I want to point out to our viewers, polo, first of all, that engine looks like it was completely blown apart, completely destroyed. If you look at the windows on that plane we just got to a different location. You see there next to the t in southwest, it looks like there is a blownout window there that may have been the result of shrapnel going from the engine. Are they saying anything about that window being blown out . Not quite yet, wolf. Those are certainly reports that we are aware of here on the ground. When you see those pictures, that certainly wouldnt be surprising when you see how much damage how much damage that engine actually sustained. Some of the reports were trying to confirm are just that. Some of that debris could have hit the fuselage and potentially damaged one of the passenger windows resulting in the injury of that one passenger. As you can imagine, that certainly would have made for some extremely scary moments in midair had that plane depressurized as were hearing possibly happened. So that certainly will be key in speaking to investigators, now the faa, the ntsb on what they see with their preliminary findings. It doesnt take much when you see these pictures, wolf, to see that things certainly could have been much, much worse. The latest information were getting from authorities is that there was only one passenger who were injured and taken to an area hospital here in philadelphia. 143 passengers, five crew members on board southwest flight 1380 from new yorks la guardia to dallas love field. Polo, stand by. Peter gold is with us, the ntsb safety managing director. Hes a safety analyst. Unfortunately, peter, youve reported and worked on these kinds of injury disasters in the past. Walk us through what were seeing right now. I think youre right. I have been on scene on these kinds of disasters. Theyre very rare. The turbo fan engine is extraordinarily reliable. But in this case it looks like it came apart midair, whats called an uncontained failure. Pieces of the internal engine exited the cowling of the engine, and it looks like it penetrated into the fuselage and that window blew out. That would explain why the oxygen masks dropped immediately. It had to be a harrowing experience inside the plane. The plane was apparently flying at altitude, about 35,000 feet. The passengers inside have already told us they heard this loud explosion. Thats a terrifying moment if youre flying at 35,000 feet and you hear Something Like that, and then shrapnel blows out a window at that altitude. Absolutely. And its unusual because the engine is not at great stress at that point. Its as cruise speed, the plane is at 30,000 feet. Its just simply not a stressful time. Usually these things take place when theyre ramping up or when theyre landing. So its unusual. The ntsb will go back through the history of this engine and theyll look particularly at fatigue. Were any of the fan blades in the engine fatigued . Did the last check on the engine miss those fatigue cracks . Where was the engine maintained . Who did the work . Well know fairly soon when the last time these engines on this particular plane were examined. Well know before the end of today. Theyll pull all the records down. Southwest will give those to the ntsb. As i say, theyll go back to the actual location where the engine was serviced and see who did the work, how is it done, were any steps missed. Miles bryan is with us, our analyst as well. It would be nice to get your thoughts over this disaster not too far from philadelphia. I think youre wise to point out to viewers apparently a broken window, a passenger window, stands to reason it had something to do with the shrapnel that have been kicked out by this uncontained engine failure. I should know from your viewers, wolf, back in august of 2016 southwest had a very similar incident. An uncontained engine failure. This aircraft was headed from Louis Armstrong airport in new orleans to orlando, diverted to pensacola. Some shrapnel penetrated the skin of the aircraft. There were no injuries reported in that case, but they it divert. So you have to start asking some questions about the engines on the 737s that southwest is flying. They use an engine made by a joint operation called cfm, which is a partnership between General Electric and the french engine maker saffron. Maybe there is some common point of interest or clue between those two incidents, whether its maintenance or design. Thats the kind of thing the ntsb will be diving into thoroughly here. These uncontained engine failures, wolf, are very rare. Theyre designed to fail in such a way that they dont spin out that shrapnel. Of course, its a great hazard. It killed two people on the ground in florida in the mid90s on a delta md88. We dont know the particulars of this passenger. Was that person sitting inside that window . It stands to reason, but well have to see what kind of injuries were caused. If a window is blown out at 35,000 feet, what happens to cabin pressure . It lessens pretty quickly, and the oxygen masks will come down and the flight crew will immediately be aware of the depressurization. Their intent and goal in that case is to get down to about 10,000 feet as quickly as possible. I was looking at the profile of this particular aircrafts flight, and there was a rapid descent after the incident, apparently. And then they actually climbed a little bit and maintained a slightly higher altitude than you might expect. Its unclear to me at this point whatever sort of depressurization situation they were dealing with. But clearly, the crew did the right thing to getting on the ground to an appropriately equipped airport as soon as possible. Peter golds will be with us and Polo Sandoval is on the scene at Philadelphia National airport. Ill also speak to some of the other passengers on board. Theres other news were following, including new scrutiny that fox news sean hannity revealed that michao be Michael Cohens clients. What was Sean Hannitys ivolvement with Michael Cohen, the president s longtime personal attorney . Plus, the fired fbi director slamming mr. Trumps call for him to be thrown behind bars. How the war of words is now escalating. And, quote, iing, why the pn star says she hasnt done this until now. This is the sketch, she says, of that alleged thug that threatened her. I no wondering, what if . Uncertainties of hep c. I let go of all those feelings. Because i am cured with harvoni. 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Trump alone, and the very next question the detective would ask me, why would somebody tell you to leave mr. Trump alone . And i would have had to answer that question which was not public at that time, and i would have to tell an entire Police Department and Police Reports are public record, i know that for a fact i had sex with donald trump. And then the whole world would have known and i was in the process of trying to quiet that or figure out what to do, and honestly, i was just afraid and i didnt want everyone to know. I didnt want my family to find out that way. I didnt want my life turned upside down. When you were speaking to news organizations, though, and michael, maybe you can talk to this, too, you never brought up the threat. So why now . Obviously one of the main reasons i didnt say anything is because i didnt tell my husband at the time. I didnt want him to be upset with me, and then i felt like honestly so much time had passed that if was embarrassed to say what so your husband did not know anything about your affair with donald trump . At that time he didnt know. So to go home and say, i had this guy attack me, and oh, by the way, i did this because of this. I didnt want him to think i would put our daughter in danger. I just didnt know. The view puts perspective on Stormy Daniels claims. He alleged the threatened her and her child, the man in the sketch. Mark preston is with us, our legal analyst laura coates and political commentator katherine rampel. Katherine, let me start with you. A lot of people say this is simply a tabloid slide show, but it has escalated over these weeks into a lot more than that. Obviously part of the reason this has stayed in the public consciousness, the reason theyre talking about it is it involves a sitting president allegedly having an affair way porn star. There are localitits of element this that are tittilating and easy to understand. This is beyond a tabloid story because there are political crimes that were committed. Shes absolutely right, katherine, because the potential damage on the president of the United States based on all the information that has surfaced since then have been made public. Which is why the president didnt want special counsel named, because by naming a special counsel, it has allowed them to go do a bigger investigation. The biggest problem for the president is if Michael Cohen will flip on him now. If there is something Michael Cohen is willing to tell the prosecutors in order to save yourself because he is in trouble. If youre donald trump, you have to be worried about that. Remember, hes the one who set up the llc to then pay Stormy Daniels in this case. If youve got a current judge saying, tell me what among your collection of materials is privileged having to do with your client, perhaps donald trump, and if its not privileged based on the legal communication, im going to have it be part of the Investigative Team and the fdny. That sets off alarm bells to say, wait a minute, has any communications i had with President Trump not confidential . It might not be. But Stormy Daniels, if she is then allowed to depose the president of the United States, put those together and you have a really foreboding experience for the president of the United States and sean hannity. And remember, Stormy Daniels was in this federal courtroom yesterday. Are there specific issues there also . The fact that hannity didnt tell anybody about that. Despite going on tv and saying there was a raid at cohens office, he didnt disclose this. I stand by my colleague who is calling for fox news to do an investigation into hannity and what other undisclosed relationships he may have with members of the trump orbit. This is where it gets really messy between mainstream media, who is actually a journalist and who is somebody who is a provocateur. Right now if you look at sean hannity, sometimes he says hes a journalist, sometimes he says hes not a journalist. What he is, though, he is a provocateur. Hes not necessarily out there talking about news trying to inform people, hes trying to persuade people. Thats what he does for an hour on his show, and clearly he didnt want anyone to know the connection with Michael Cohen because, again, it would show another link that he has to donald trump. I would call him a pr propagandist. He has been promoting propaganda for trump, for his company, for his administration, and hes saying hes blemished for whatever he has in this and then he says, no, i am not bound by ethical constraints. Michael cohens lawyers said that cohen had three clients, legal clients, over the past 18 months, the president of the United States was one of them. Another client was this gop fundraiser who had an extramarital affair, and then, of course, there was a third client. They didnt want to name that third client for sensitive reasons. The judge said, you must name that third client. Instead of just handing a slip of paper with a name written on it to the federal judge, the Michael Cohen lawyers announced Sean Hannitys name in public. Its fascinating, because nobody wants to be in the company of that. And he said, i didnt have any thirdparty actionbased communication with Michael Cohen, meaning he did not attempt to try to silence somebody because of an alleged sexual encounter. You were talking about the semantics journalist, provocateur, propagandist. Whether he is a client or a friend, you cannot be nuanced when it comes to the attorneyclient privilege. Either you are in a relationship or you are not. And if youre the client who controls what information goes out and what does not, if you yourself, as sean hannity is saying, i am not your client, well then guess what . Michael cohen cannot say he is his attorney. Unethical claims against Michael Cohen because he already said, i need to include trumps and stor trump in stormy began yells nondisclosure agreement. James comey escalating his words against the president. The president , meanwhile, calls for comey to go to jail. Flonase sensimist. You might or joints. Hing for your heart. But do you take something for your brain. With an ingredient originally found in jellyfish, prevagen is the number one selling brainhealth supplement in drug stores nationwide. Prevagen. The name to remember. Internet providers promise Business Owners a lot. Lets see who delivers more. Comcast business offers fast gigspeeds across our network. At t doesnt. 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This has been repeated throughout history in worse scenario cases, but we have seen this happen before. And i do think the fact were embracing it and allowing it to roll off our shoulders is a mistake. It is a very big mistake right now. Im not saying anything is wrong with mr. Trumps presidency when it comes to policies, however, his actions in office right now are questionable at best. Katherine comey, in this new book, and im sure its selling really well, he said we got too personal with the president s characteristics. Listen to this. Im trying to be an author and bring people into this room. I tried to create a vivid image for the reader. Im not trying to make fun of President Trump, im not trying to make fun of everybody. But if you read the whole book, youll see im trying to give you that pick. He talks about the president s hair, his tan, the size of his hands, which a lot of people have suggested undermines the credibility of the book. I dont know that it undermines the credibility of the book per se. It doesnt seem to suggest there was anything in there that is an outright fabrication or a lie. However, i do think it undermines his general message about Ethical Leadership and how he has more character than the other people that hes talking about in the book, in particular, the president , so in that sense i think it undermines his case, but i dont think it suggests that theyre making false claims. Legally speaking, whats going to be the impact of this book . It is impactful, but the fbi would have known it was in prepublication. Mueller has already met with him so he knows everything thats going to be out there. For many people, its important to understand, the obstruction case really begins where the fbi directors tenure ended. The idea of what was the basis for firing this particular person . It was about flynn . Was it about flynn beforehand . Was it about the russians . What he knows up to that point really calls for him to find out, what was his mental state . Everything hes telling you in this book is everything about what the president s thought process was. What about fallout for this book . Its not good. Hes going to keep his 30, 35, 40 support. People who like President Trump are going to stay with him. But it is giving heartbreak to republicans. We are heading into a Midterm Election right now, and this is not helpful for him when constituents are asking particular senators to respond. On the other hand, trump is fundraising off this book. I got a fundraising request about jim comey is a lying slimeball, give me some money. How much did you give him . Zero. Sadly my profession, unlike hannitys, apparently, prohibits that. Guys, thanks very, very much. Coming up, did politics play a part in comeys decision to reveal the investigation of Hillary Clintons emails just a few days before the 2016 election . 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A contradiction from the former fbi director james comey who says he took the polls into account before announcing the continuation of the Hillary Clinton email investigation only a few days before the election. Listen. I was operating in a world where Hillary Clinton was going to beat donald trump. So im sure that it was a factor. Like i said, i dont remember spelling it out, but it had to have been, that shes going to be elected president , and if i hide this from the American People, shell be illegitimate the moment shes elected. In that same interview with abc news, comey said he wasnt acting with political fortunes in mind. A whole lot of me was thinking, oh, my god, did we have some role in this . Did we have some impact on the election . What does your gut tell you . I dont know the answer. In a way i care about the answer, and in a way it doesnt matter at all. I really wasnt making decisions based on political fortunes. Here with us is john podesta, former chairman with the Hillary Clinton campaign, former chairman of chief of staff. You would have to read the other interviews hes done. I havent read the book. The first is he does believe in the rule of law and i think hes committed to the truth. But that doesnt mean he cant make terrible errors of judgment. I think in this case, as he noted, he let politics interfere with longtime precedent going back decades from republican and democratic administrations. He never really explained why he thought it was too close to the election to sign on to a letter that jeh johnson and jim clapper sent on october 8 that they believed the russians were interfering in the election, because he felt that was too close to the election. He never explained, but i think disingenuously he never explained why, when it was admitted 11 days before the election. He said they found thousands of emails on Anthony Weiners laptop. If he wouldnt have released that information, and Hillary Clinton had been elected president , he assumed she would be elected president , then his explanation could be seen as illegitimate. He took the binding choice, do i seek or do i conceal . Do you blame him for her loss . I think it contributed to her loss. I think when you win by 300 votes but lose by less than 3,080 votes in a state that decided the election, i think this was a very significant factor. I think at the end of the day, he made, as i said, a terrible error of judgment. It wasnt a binary choice. He had the information about weiners laptop three weeks earlier. It only took them a week to look at those emails and conclude they were just duplicates of what they had already looked at and dismissed the matter. He could have done that quietly. He didnt need to do what he did which was send a letter to jason k api tz, the republican firebrand chairman at the time. He knew that would leak out immediately. I think he just made a terrible error of judgment, and i think republicans and democrats that had served in senior levels of the department, including the person who was just who preceded him as Deputy Attorney general in the bush administration, all concluded that this was the wrong move. Let me get your reaction on sensitive things hes been saying in these interviews. He was asked to comment on why Loretta Lynch, thenattorney general of the United States, told him to look at the clinton email controversy as a matter rather than an investigation. Listen to his reaction to that. Did you think she was doing that to protect Hillary Clinton . I didnt know. It worried me, gave me an uncomfortable feeling, because the Clinton Campaign had to come up with other words to describe it. I thought, as much as i like her, i have to step away from her and show the American People the fbis work separately. You were chairman of the Clinton Campaign. Were you coordinating with Loretta Lynch . No. I dont think i saw Loretta Lynch, because we were working in the obama administration. The next time i saw her was after the election at janet renos funeral, and i dont think anyone was coordinating with her. One of the problems with someone who thinks theyre never wrong and always right is, as David Lenhart said the other day, there is a strength of a line between fake and humorous. I think Loretta Lynch was trying to do her job and didnt make any effort to try to impede the investigation, tried to keep it in the hands of mr. Comey. As it turned out, at the end of the investigation, he said there is no reason a prosecutor would find this to be a criminal matter. We kept saying it was a security review. Lo and behold, if you look back to his statement on july 5th when he finally announced his decision, he said, you know, this matter belongs in the security review box. I think hes throwing shade on everybody but accepting very little responsibility himself. He had this message for Hillary Clinton. Listen to this. I hope Hillary Clinton at least reads those parts of the book because i think she will walk away saying, you know what . I still think that guy is an idiot, but you know, hes kind of an honest idiot. And hes trying to do the right thing here. Have you spoken to Hillary Clinton, gotten her reaction to this . Not since his interviews and the book. You know her well. You worked with her for a long time. How do you think shell respond when she says, i still think this guy is an idiot, but hes kind of an honest idiot. Do you think shell agree . I have done interviews since the election. Ive never attacked mr. Comey for trying to do something that was for a partisan reason. I think it was, to some extent, his arrogance that led him to make a very bad error of judgment. If she doesnt agree with him, i guess i can agree with him that hes an honest idiot, but i felt like he was an idiot in the context of this election and it was influential in the outcome, and now we have someone who, as he said, is morally unfit to be president of the United States. Are you going to read this book . I dont think so. Do you think Hillary Clinton will read this book . I doubt it. Thank you. I read the fivehour transcript. That was enough for me. Tom positive did he say e pa thank you very much. Why the president suddenly slammed on the brakes of sanctions on russia. Well find out. Are finding themselves morin a chevroletple for the first time. Trying something new can be exciting. Empowering. Downright exhilarating. See for yourself why chevrolet is the most awarded and Fastest Growing brand, the last four years overall. Switch into a new chevy now. 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Larry kudlow, the president s new chief economic adviser, says there was no confusion. He simply says Ambassador Haley just got ahead of herself. What was your reaction . Did the white house undercut Ambassador Haley . I think before you talk about sanctions we ought to talk about what evidence was there that russia was complicit in this attack. In fact, for that matter, i still look at the attack and say assad must be the dumbest dictator on the planet or maybe he didnt do it. I have yet to see evidence he did do it. The Agency Claims they have that evidence, but think about it, hes been winning the war for the last couple years. The only thing that would galvanize the war to assad directly is a chemical attack. It killed relatively few people compared to what could be killed with traditional bombs, traditional machine guns, traditional tanks, so you wonder what made them use chemical weapons. So before we get to russia, we have to determine that syria was implicated and then we have to determine the connection between russia and syria. As you know, its not just the u. S. , but france and the u. K. Participated in the bombing of these chemical sites in syria. Are you saying, senator, the president had bad intelligence . I dont know. I havent seen the intelligence. We have a briefing this afternoon where i may see some of this, but the difficulty is, these things are not a slamdunk. This was back in 2013 president obama looked at that chemical attack, and at that point in time, his general was saying, hey, its not a slamdunk, because you can detect there were syrian claims, you can detect syrians dropped bombs, but its sometimes hard to know if they dropped an existing vehicle of weapons, and syria has been known to use chemical weapons, or if the syrians did it. If the syrians did it, it comes back to the question that assad must be the dumbest dictator on the planet the earth. He knows its the only thing that gets the world galvanized to attack him. The new legislation, where do you stand on that . It is a good idea to debate whether we should be at war or not. Unfortunately the use of authorization force, the resolution theyre putting forward actually expands the president s ability to commit war. So if it were a limitation on the president s power, id be for it. This actual resolution expands the president s authority. For the first time it will list six or seven groups that were at war with. Remember after 9 11 we were at war with those who attacked us and those who aided and abetted them. This is going to codify six to seven groups, make 10 to 15 countries we could be at war with. But really, its limitless. If we have any other groups having activity in any country, the president can go to war there. He has to submit a notice saying, hey guys, were at war in another country. Its a huge mistake. You said the president should trust his gut when it comes to syria. Tell our viewers what you mean. Ive heard him over the years many times, he wants the u. S. Out of syria, out of iraq, out of afghanistan, thinks the u. S. Has spent way too much money there and lost lives. Theyve all been for less intervention. Thats one of the reasons i was attracted to his candidacy. But hes surrounded himself now with advisers that give him the opposite advice. Two weeks ago he was saying its time to come out of syria. There are rumblings that he Still Believes that. We go from one belief to the opposite reaction. In afghanistan, he said its a mistake to keep building their bridges and roads and people hate us and were sending good money after bad. To me, it can be distilled down to this, even pompeo admitted there is no military solution in afghanistan. Today we had an assistant secretary of state say theres no military solution in yemen or in syria. Its hard for me to understand, to comprehend, theyre asking our young men and women to go to war in a war that has no military solution. So are we really reliving vietnam where were telling our young men and women take one more village so we can have a little bit more negotiated settlement . I dont think thats what a lot of our young men and women sign up for. Im saying enough is enough. We should declare victory and come home. Is there any chance youre going to vote to confirm mike pompeo as the next secretary of state . If he came out publicly and said its time to declare victory and come home but he said he didnt believe that. I challenged him with the president s own word and the president saying its time to come home and he doesnt agree with that. He will be giving advice to the president that goes against the predss go president s good instincts that the war has run its course. What about you think about the president s candidate for cia . I think what she did goes against everything america represents. Its sort of like telling the rest of the world that if they capture our soldiers, it must be okay to torture them because we have appointed someone to be head of the cia who used to run a torture camcamp. I think shes a terrible representative and i will absolutely oppose her coming forward and her nomination. You held up the last spending bill before it ultimately passed, you have a new proposal, senator, and its implementation would cut around 7 billion in military spending alone. How are you going to get support from your fellow republican senators and Democratic Senators for that matter, some of the Democratic Senators to cut military spending . I think conservatives kacros the country want someone who will hold the line on spending. If congress cant agree to cut 1 across the board, it would be 1 across the board and include military. But lets say Congress Said they wanted to do it all domestic, they could. The bottom line has to equal 1 . A 1 cut each year is about 13 billion, actually balances the budget in five years. Whats interesting about mu budg my Budget Proposal is its what they want but its a privileged motion, which means the senate will vote on it, even if they dont present their own budget. So im doing a budget for them. I will include instructions to allow for the expansion of Health Savings accounts. I think we can totally transform and make insurance more competitive by expanding the marketplace where people could have Health Savings accounts. I will do two things, balance the budget, balances over 5 years with a 1 across the board cut but also expand Health Savings accounts larger than anyone has tried in the past. Some estimates now projecting a trillion dollar deficit in the not too distant future, annual deficit. Well continue this down the road. In the meantime, thank you for joining us. 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