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Well take you there live as heavy rains begin to move in. All that coming up. But up first, the future direction of the countrys highest court and the fate of relations with u. S. Allies and adversaries, all part of of a truly significant week for President Trump. In just a few hours, he announces his pick to replace the retiring Supreme Court Justice Anthony kennedy on the u. S. Supreme court. The president also attends the nato summit in brussels, meets with the british Prime Minister theresa may, and the queen in the uk and visits scotland before his big meeting with Vladimir Putin in helsinki one week from today. Lets go to our senior White House Correspondent jeff zeleny. Jeff, update us first of all on the Supreme Court announcement only a few hours away. Wolf, we are only hours away from that announcement, the big reveal tonight in the east room of the white house. I am told it is going to look exactly like the decision the announcement looked back in january of 2017 when neil gorsuch was the first nominee that this president made to the Supreme Court. He kept it a surprise until the moment of the reveal. Im told the president is insisting on that same thing this evening. There are essentially four finalists. You see them there on the screen. Theyre in alphabetical order but not necessarily the order in which hes still considering them. Theres still much reason to believe that Brett Kavanaugh is among the leading contenders, as is tom hardiman, as is amy Coney Barrett. But Raymond Kethledge is also in the mix. All are deeply conservative. They come from that list of some 25 conservative judges that were put forward by the Federalist Society and other conservative groups here. The speed at which this is moving is pretty extraordinary. About 12 days or so ago, Justice Anthony kennedy announced his retirement was happening. So this announcement tonight certainly is coming fast. Theyre pushing for a fast confirmation. Wolf, that is anything but certain. Democrats also gearing up for a fight. This is already playing out in Midterm Election fights across the country, particularly in that battle for the senate. In missouri, for example, one Important Senate race, the republican candidate there already on the air advertising about this. So wolf, this is going to be front and center in the Midterm Elections. But most people here at the white house do not know who the selection is going to be. In fact, all of them know it is going to be among those three or four, but the president , if he know, wolf, is not saying. Well know soon enough. Jeff zeleny at the white house, thanks very much. The president , meantime, heads to brussels tomorrow for the twoday nato summit. Today on twitter, the president renewed his complaints over nato spending by key u. S. Allies. He said this, and im quoting, the United States is spending far more on nato than any other country. This is not fair, nor is it acceptable. Nato benefits europe far more than it does the United States. By some accounts, the u. S. Is paying for 90 of nato with many countries nowhere close to their 2 commitment, close quote. The United States, by the way, is actually paying around 22 of natos principle budget, not 90 , as the president says. Lets go to our White House Correspondent joining us live in brussels right now. The president is way off on his numbers on nato spending, but hes still going to be thats going to be his main message to the nato allies. You have to increase your defense spending. Reporter thats right, wolf. The numbers dont always matter much to President Trump, but that language is going to be the same when he shows up here in brussels tomorrow. He seems to be spoiling for a fight, judging by his tweets this morning, trashing nato, singling out germany specifically, saying they arent doing enough for their defense spending. This has long been a complaint of the president. That those countries are not living up to that 2014 agreement to spend up to 2 of their gdp on defense spending. Now, that has also been a complaint of president s in the past, to be fair. This isnt just President Trump who believes the United States is shouldering the burden of nato, but the president is taking this criticism one step further. European leaders already fear that this years summit was going to be even more divisive than last years when the president lectured these other leaders on defense spending during that famous speech where you could see their shocked faces as they stood next to the president. And he is really contributing to those fears here with those tweets we were seeing from him this morning essentially saying this is going to be a showdown when he does get to brussels. Now, the fears arent just that its going to be a tense summit, wolf. They also have fears that the president is going to wrap up his week in europe in that oneonone first formal sitdown with russian president Vladimir Putin. A meeting that these european leaders fear is going to be much friendlier than the one that they have with him and that could end in less military defense here in europe by the United States. So that is certainly their concern here, but judging by the president s tweet, wolf, he is going to use some very harsh language when he does show up in brussels tomorrow. Yeah, and on the eve of the summit he not only tweeted about his complaints involving nato spending among the allies, he also pointed out once again an top of this, he said the European Union has a trade surplus of 151 billion with the United States with big trade barriers on u. S. No, in all caps. So theres a lot of tension right now between the u. S. And its closest nato allies, not only on spending, but also traderelated issues. Da now to the very serious war of words that has developed between lawyers for President Trump and for his former attorney and fixer, Michael Cohen. Cohens newest attorney cautioned trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani with this tweet. Let me read it. Did Rudy Giuliani really say on sunday shows that Michael Cohen should cooperate with prosecutors and tell the truth . Seriously . Is that trump and giuliani definition of truth . Trump giuliani next to the word truth, equals, oxymoron. Stay tuned. Is lets discuss this and more with our chief legal analyst jeffr Jeffrey Toobin and gloria borger. The addition of davis, who we all know going back to the bill clinton impeachment process, to his strong support for Hillary Clinton, thats really a significant message that cohen is sending. It is. And the message from my sources is im no longer going to be the punching back for anyone elses defense strategy. And that they are upset at what Rudy Giuliani has been saying. And that Michael Cohen believes that giuliani and the president are trying to send him a message. They think that message is that if he differs with them on his recollections, then they will continue their attacks on his character and will say hes lying. So hes decided, along with davis, whos his spokesman. I mean, he has an attorney. They have decided to hit the reset button, as they put it. Guy, the new defense attorney for Michael Cohen, is a former criminal prosecutor in the Southern District of new york. I think he was in charge of the criminal division. What does it say to you . It certainly seems like its issuing a declaration of independence a couple of days after july 4th. Theyre not part of the trump team. They are legally not part of the trump world anymore. Theyre not being paid by donald trump. I find it a little puzzling, frankly, they were so offended by what Rudy Giuliani said yesterday. All Rudy Giuliani said was, you know, tell the truth and theres no harm to the president. I dont know what else he could say as the president s advocate. But it certainly does seem like michael coshhen is in the proce of separating himself from the president , but we still dont know what, if any, charges cohen is going to face. And we dont know if hes going to cooperate. So theres a lot of theater going on here, but i dont know what the actual truth is. Well, and we dont know whether the prosecutors are interested in him. Guy petrillo is not commenting. Neither is lanny davis. This has nothing to do with the sdny. We dont know. The Southern District got a search warrant for his office. That much we know. You dont get a search warrant for a lawyers home and Office Without substantial evidence of probable cause that theres evidence of a crime there. We still dont know what crimes theyre talking about, whether they relate to the president or thencandidate or thenprivate developer trump in any way. But we do know we can conclude Michael Cohen is in a world of trouble, but how much trouble hes in and what hes going to do about it, that remains still pretty serious. We know both sides have looked at these documents. Maybe theyre seeing Different Things in these documents and what they might imply. The documents that were taken from cohens home, his hotel room, his office, his safe governme deposit box, including all the audio recordings he may have had. And giuliani was confident in the sunday shows theres nothing in there to show anything. What we dont know is what mr. Cohen is thinking is in those documents because they refuse to comment about that. But giuliani says they have zero worries. The quote from giuliani is, i think hes going to tell the truth as best he can given his recollection, and if he does, were home free. I guess thats the argument, that unless you line up you, Michael Cohen, line up your story with the president s, were going to accuse you of lying. And thats where Michael Cohen is coming from. Hes been frustrated. Hes felt abandoned by somebody he once said he would take a bullet for. Theres actually a group of lawyers who think you shouldnt say anything when youre under investigation. I sometimes think theyre right, but you dont hire Rudy Giuliani is not one of those lawyers. I can only imagine, gloria, those of us who covered bill clinton and the whitewater investigation, the mon ica lewinsky scandal. In more recent years, no one has been more supportive of Hillary Clinton than lanny davis. I can only imagine what President Trump must be thinking when he heard lanny davis is now working with his former friend, his lawyer, his fixer, Michael Cohen. I think the president not just a democrat, but a democrat who worked so closely with the clintons. I think the president is probably thinking that Michael Cohen is no longer his ally in all of this. And maybe Michael Cohen has made a decision that hes not looking for a pardon from the president of the United States, should one be necessary. Perhaps he feels that wouldnt be necessary for him, or maybe we dont know what his communication eventually would be with the Southern District of new york. Theres a lot of stuff that we have to unspool in all of this. But the one thing that is clear is that this is a level of hostility between Michael Cohen and his former employer, donald trump, that we have not seen before. It is a much ratcheted up level of hostility. Heres a quote from a source familiar with cohens thinking, saying that hes no longer taking a bullet for trump. He is no longer a flunky. It is his july 4th moment. There you go. Really significant development. Well see where it leads. Guys, thank you very much. Gloria, terrific reporting as usual. Are the president s talks with north korea right now on the verge of collapse as the regime calls the u. S. Gangst gangsterlike. Plus, is theresa may at risk of losing her job as Prime Minister . The uk government in complete turmoil as two of her cabinet officials resign over brexit. This just before her summit with President Trump. And the breaking news out of thailand, where eight boys have been pulled out alive from the cave, but there are more still trapped as heavy rains move in. Well take you there live. Almost 800 when we switched our auto and home insurance. With liberty, we could afford a real babysitter instead of your brother. Hey oh, thats my robe. Is it . 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Matt, the remaining children inside reportedly are described as the weakest. Are rescuers planning anything different to get them out . Reporter it doesnt appear so, wolf. It does appear that they are going to follow the protocol that has worked so successfully on these first two attempts. And dont forget, that was far from guaranteed. Weve spent the last couple days here talking about how potentially dangerous and fraught with peril this kind of rescue attempt could be. Yet, over the last two days, almost miraculously, all eight boys that are in this hospital behind me at this point were managed to be successfully extricated from that cave. So i think what rescuers are going to do tomorrow is try and get all five remaining people inside that cave, four boys and the coach, out in a similar way. Hopefully it can be as successful. We do know in terms of the conditions of the boys in the hospital behind me that they are being quarantined at this point, isolated away from anyone who could come in contact with them. Theres a fear that their immune systems are weaker, that theyre more susceptible to infection. So theyre gong ing to try and e sure the recovery goes as smoothly as possible. We did hear from officials here in thailand who say that in terms of the rescue attempt tomorrow, divers need to rest. They need to prepare for tomorrows dive. They need at least 20 hours in between those dives. But there is a sense of hope here in thailand that maybe didnt exist quite so strongly a couple days ago, wolf. These attempts have been successful so far, and everyone here is praying that the third attempt can get the rest of that team out just as safely as the first boys, the first eight boys were able to be successfully taken out. People are praying and hoping not only there but all over the world. Theyre all watching and hoping for the very best. Matt rivers on the scene for us. Thank you. The path to safety is very long and dangerous. The remaining team members are 2 1 2 miles deep into the caves system. Rescue teams have to take the boys through narrow pitchblack tunnels underwater, a daunting task for the boys, some of whom cant even swim. Lets discuss all of this right now. Retired navy diver and captain bobby scoli is joining us. Walk us through what these divers are doing. Well, wolf, the diver team cannot let their guard down now. Theyve had two successful rescue attempts over the last two days. Everybodys getting tired. Theyre getting weary. But they have to keep vigilant. What they have to do is follow the same plan that theyve been executing the last two rescues. They have to assemble the boys like they have been, take them one at a time. These boys have been in there even longer than the first two sets of boys. They have to take the boys one at a time, take them, fit the boys with the full face masks that theyve been using before and put the full face masks on each of the boys as they bring them out. Then they will have two divers assigned to each boy. Thats why its taking so long. One of the Soccer Players at a time with two divers attached to them. The first part of the rescue has been the hardest. Thats where they take them through that very narrow passageway that weve all heard about. The first diver will lead the Soccer Player through. Hell have the full face mask on. The lead rescue diver will take the air tank that the Soccer Player is breathing from and take him through the water, through that narrow passageway, with another rescue diver following behind. Now, hopefully these boys have been through all the training, all the practice, and are still calm with what theyve been trained on. Then they will take them one at a time up through this first passageway to what we call the tender on the other side. Theyre following the guide lines. Theyre held on with a buddy line to that lead diver. They take them to the first dry piece of land above. Of the 12 boys and the soccer coach, the stronger boys were taken out first. The weaker left for later. Walk us through why that decision would make you think maybe you get the weaker ones out first because theyre not in good shape. Well, im not sure which protocol they went with, but i would suspect they would want to take some of the boys that were maybe a little bit stronger to make sure that this whole procedure was going to be successful. Whether they took the strongest boys or boys that were a little bit stronger, a little bit more confident in their skills to be able to use the diving equipment, but they wanted to, especially with maybe the first set of boys, they would want to make sure theyre validating this whole procedure. And they want to make sure that the whole process worked. The stronger boys probably would be ready to do it. Now theyve got some experience from these separate operations. Then they can come up and bring the weaker boys home and lets hope and pray it all works out for all of them, including the coach. Exactly. Bobbie, thank you very much. Retired navy diver, retired captain. Thanks very much for joining us. Thank you, wolf. Theres breaking news out of london right now. Just days before she meets with President Trump, Prime Minister theresa may in real trouble as two of her cabinet officials resign, sending the government into turmoil. Plus, despite north koreas calling the United States gangsterlike, the president says hes confident in kim jongun. Are the nuclear talks, though, are the nuclear talks, though, collapsing . Are the nuclear talks, though, collapsing . Does your Business Internet provider promise a lot . Lets see who delivers more. Comcast business gives you gigspeed in more places. The others dont. We offer up to 6 hours of 4g Wireless Network backup. Everyone else, no way. We let calls from any of your devices come from your business number. Them, not so much. We let you keep an eye on your business from anywhere. The others . Nope get internet on our gigspeed network and add voice and tv for 34. 90 more per month. Call or go on line today. Blah theres breaking news coming into cnn. Just days before President Trump is set to begin his visit to the uk, Prime Minister theresa mays government has been thrown into turmoil. Two key cabinet ministers stun many by abruptly resigning. Theyre unhappy with mays blueprint for britains exit from the European Union. They voted to pull out of the eu in a 2016 referendum. Theresa may supported britain staying in the eu. Nina dos santos is just outside Parliament Buildings in london. Nina, boris johnson, the highprofile foreign minister, david davis, the top brexit negotiator, theyve both now departed. Can theresa may survive as Prime Minister at this point . Reporter well, you can probably see the winds have changed, blowing here in westminster. Thats the real concern this evening. This is, make no mistake, the most severe political crisis tlo theresa may has faced since calling an illfated election a year or so ago, failing to secure a majority. A lot have said shes taken a softer stance on brexit than most would liked to have seen. Its yet to be seen whether other government officials resign and whether boris johnson, whos been quiet since resigning four or five hours ago, decides to openly challenge her for the leadership. In order for a challenge to take place, you have to have about 15 of the conservative partys sitting mps writing to a particular committee to say they want a new change at the helm of the party. So far theres no indication that weve seen that. But essentially, all of this was set in motion after it was feared by david davis, the key brexit secretary, that he could not put forward credibly the plan that she had managed to secure over the course of the last week to the eu. He was saying she was too soft on brexit, and shes also being goaded by the other side of the house of commons, but jeremy corbyn, the leader of the opposition. Take a listen. Cabinet agreed a comprehensive and ambitious proposal that provides a responsible and progressive basis towards a new relationship after the 29th of march next year. It is a proposal that will take back control of our borders, our money, and our lawyers. We have a crisis in government. Two secretaries of state have resigned, and still were no clearer on what future relationship with our nearest neighbors and biggest partners will look like. Reporter well, all of this is extremely significant. The timing of this, wolf. Obviously the u. S. President donald trump is about to visit the uk later on this week. Hes also set to go to nato as well. This as a time when the uk is at at the center of a big security crisis with news overnight that one of the latest victims of the poisoning lost her life. So the foreign pesecretary posts open. R whether or not the Prime Minister will stay is the next big question. Well watch it very closely, including the meeting with President Trump this week. Thanks so much, nina dos santos, joining us from london. Lets get some analysis from our cnn Global Affairs analyst max booth, whos joining us now. This comes one of just a few days before the Prime Ministers meeting with the president of the United States. What do you make of these latebreaking developments . Well, wolf, to me this is a sign of how western politics is increasingly being polarized in country after country. Youre seeing on the one hand the loony left represented by jeremy corbyn. Then you have the rabbit right represented by boris johnson. Tlo theresa may is between them, trying to negotiate a soft brexit. Of course, thats not good enough for the hard core ultranationalist faction. So this is a very difficult situation. I fear itll only be exacerbated by Donald Trumps entrance into the scene because, of course, hes been very sympathetic to the probrexit forces. Yeah, he certainly has. Lets talk about the nato summit this week in brussels. President trump is going to that summit, now complaining once again very openly, very bitterly about defense spending or lack thereof from his perspective by many of the nato allies. Whats the fear here . Could the president be permanently weakening nato as an alliance and potentially further emboldening russia . That is the fear, and he is definitely weakening the alliance. The question is whether it will survive his presidency or not. Part of that will depend, i think, on how long he stays in office. It is really striking, the degree of hostility that donald trump evokes against nato. Have you ever heard him say anything positive about nato . Off the cuff in rallies, its always criticism, criticism, criticism. Not just of nato but also the eu, the two great institutions that have created the postwar european order founded upon peace and prosperity. Donald trump is really calling all that into question with his hostility towards our allies and alliances. At the same time, his sympathy for Vladimir Putin, who is also trying to destroy nato and the eu, and there seems to be a convergence of interest here between trump and putin, which is dismaying and disturbing. But trump has been saying these things about the nato allies not since taking office, not since the campaign, but for so many years earlier. I interviewed him on many occasions over the last many years. He was always railing against the lack of defense spending by key nato allies. So this is nothing new. Its nothing new, but that shows this is truly a deeply held belief of his, and he will not be swayed from it. Remember that last year, it took everything that h. R. Mcmaster, whos now the National Security adviser, could do to get trump on his previous nato summit to simply avow he would support nato article 5, the mutual defense provision. Now h. R. Mcmaster is gone and theres a sense that the axis of adult has lost power in the white house. They cant restrain trump anymore. Hes feeling his full trumpiness, as it were. So hes acting on his most deeply held beliefs, which includes this innate hostility towards american trade partners. For many, many years has raised serious questions. Why does the United States need troops in germany, need troops in japan, need troops in south korea . Thats another issue we can discuss down the road. Lets talk about north korea very quickly while i still have you, max. Wrapping up some highlevel talks. The secretary of state mike pompeo in north korea over the weekend. He issued this statement. This is the north korean state, i should say. The u. S. Is fatally mistaken if it went to the extent of regarding that the democratic peoples republic of korea would be compelled to accept out of its patience the demands reflecting its gangsterlike mind set. The president tweeted this in contrast. Quote, i have confidence that kim jongun will honor the contract we signed and even more importantly our handshake. We agreed to the denuclearization of north korea. China, on the other hand, may be exerting negative pressure on a deal because of our posture on chinese trade. Hope not. So whats your analysis . Well, im just amazed by Donald Trumps credulity. He thinks he has a contract with kim yong june and that kim jongun will honor it . By the way, this is the same president whos been repeatedly sued by his own contractors for not honoring his contracts. But there was no contract. There was no real agreement in singapore beyond these vague assurances from north korea that they would work towards complete denuclearization at some unspecified point in the future. Theyve never shown any evidence theyre going to give up their Nuclear Weapons. The only question to my mind now is how long is donald trump going to keep this charade going . How long is he going to keep pretending that there was a serious agreement and that it actually amounts to something . I suspect he will try to keep it alive, at least through the election so he can claim he reached this great deal. It was obvious from day one to every objective observer that there was no deal, that donald trump was being taken to the cleaners. You know, the big question i have now is how will trump react when hes been duped or rather when hes duped himself into thinking that he had solved the north korea problem, as he said right after the summit. I think hes referring to the joint agreement that kim jongun and the president signed in singapore at the end of their talks. They both signed it. It was a document that they signed. The president is now calling it a contract. You say thats ridiculous to call that joint agreement a contract . Theres no specifics in it. A, its not legally binding. B, even if it were, it doesnt mean anything because the agreement talks about how north korea wants better, peaceful relations and will work towards the complete denuclearization of the korean peninsula. You can work towards something and never actually get there. This is exactly the kind of language that north korea has been using since the 1990s. Its not a specific commitment. Its ironic that donald trump criticized the Iran Nuclear Deal as being the worst deal ever, but that included vastly more specific commitments which iran has by and large honored. There was no such commitment from north korea. They havent even given a full accounting of their Nuclear Weapons program. Donald trump pretending this is a contract just shows he fundamentally does not understand how the world of International Diplomacy works. And i was very much i noticed the fact and it was very significant that kim jongun did not receive secretary of state pompeo when he was in pyongyang over the weekend. I thought that was significant in and of itself. That was the first time on pompeos three visits to pyongyang that he was not received by kim jongun. The two previous occasions were before the summit. The strong sense i get is kim jongun has basically gotten what he wants out of the summit without having to give anything up. Hes gotten de facto relaxation of sanctions. Donald trump has recognized him as an equal of the american president. He no longer feels the need to make any real concessions because thats what he wanted. So now he kind of gives pompeo the back of his hand, doesnt even agree to see him, and has his government issue this statement blasting the u. S. For gangsterlike behavior. Yeah, all right, max. Thanks for your analysis. Up next, the Senate Majority leader Mitch Mcconnell chased out of a restaurant by protesters. What they said. And were just hours away from learning President Trumps u. S. Supreme court pick. 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Joining us to discuss the potential candidates and more, cnn political analyst and cnn political analyst and White House Correspondent for american urban radio networks, april ryan. April, clearly the Senate Majority, Mitch Mcconnell, hes got his preferences. Do you believe the president will necessarily accept the recommendation from the majority leader whos got to push this through a very narrow u. S. Senate . No. President trump is going to do what President Trump has always done. He thinks for himself. He may take advice, but he is going to do what he wants to do. And according to a republican source who just reached out, you know, the decision is not made until its made tonight. But what were hearing is that right now, and its not final because he could flip, its hardiman and kavanaugh. Its really about the fact that he doesnt feel, according to sources, the president does not feel they would waiver on the issue of roe v. Wade. Amy Coney Barrett is not in the running, apparently, right now because they feel that the president feels she could waiver on roe v. Wade. This is something that could still change at a moments notice. Amy Coney Barrett, one of the four socalled finalists right now. They need the republicans, assuming no democrats, a big assumption, vote to confirm, theyll never every republican on board. A couple of those republican senators have concerns. Yes, youve seen Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski basically say they have concerns about people that would be not adhering to precedent on things like roe v. Wade and might overturn it. I think you have to think those two republicans and the three democrats that theres a chief focus on, joe manchin, joe donnelly, and heidi heitkamp, as one group. If collins and murkowski doesnt vote, that gives cover to democrats who are facing tight races in states that voted for trump. I agree with april, we dont know what the president is going to do until he actually does it because were dealing with a fairly capricious president. But he wants a win on this. Gorsuch was a big win for both mcconnell and President Trump. They want to repeat that. They dont want to have that legacy of the court is the thing we won on fall apart. So they have to think about the math Going Forward and who can the president have faith in to stick by the principles he wants but is not going to be dead on arrival or take inordinate amounts of arm twisting to get those really needed votes. Let me switch gears. April, tomorrow is the deadline a federal judge imposed on getting children under 5 years old reunited with their moms and their dads. The administration is asking for a delay. They say think need more time. But its so, so disconcerting, so worrisome that a lot of these kids and their mothers and fathers, the government itself is unclear whos where and whats going on. Were now at a point of dna testing. Were at a point where theyre really scared to put out the visuals and really talk about it because it makes them look like theyre not as confident about reunifying these children with their parents as they once were at the beginning of this controversy. If indeed the deadline comes and there is a problem, there could be a fine. Whats a fine to the United States government . What it does do is create a bigger issue with the psyche of the American Public and with the global leaders. What are the World Leaders thinking . What is the world thinking about us when we cannot reunify parents . Theres a strong possibility some of these kids will not be reunified with their parents. Then what happens . Its so heartbreaking. Were talking about 3,000 children who have been separated from their parents by the United States government under the orders of the United States, and theres deep concern that some of them, that they dont know where the mothers and fathers are, where the kids are. And what happens . How long does it take . Even if you reunite them, how long does it take . How much psychological has there been to those children in the meantime . The longer this goes on, the more people youve seen politicians of all stripes saying this isnt who were supposed to be. This isnt how were supposed to treat people that come to our borders and shores. The worse it alonlooks the longt goes on. The optics are already bad. If it continues and you have a large number of children that never find their parents again, thats just and in the foster system. And you hear these heartbreaking stories of kids who are reunited with their mothers. They cling to their mothers. They refuse to let go. Its so heartbreaking to see. You dont know what longterm damage could develop as a result. All right. Well watch it chosely with ylo guys. Thank you very much. Check out the plane banner flying over columbus, ohio, calling on jim jordan to resign after turning a blind eye to abuse. The republican is back here in washington, up on capitol hill today. Hes fighting back. We have details. Stay with us. You always pay your insurance on time. Tap one little bumper and up go your rates. What good is your insurance if you get punished for using it . News flash nobodys perfect. For drivers with accident forgiveness, Liberty Mutual wont raise your rates due to your first accident. Switch and you could save 782 on home and auto insurance. Call for a free quote today. Liberty mutual insurance. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Ohio congressman jim jordan returns to capitol hill this week showing no indication he will resign as more former Ohio State University athletes have come forward claiming jordan turned a blind eye to sexual abuse while an assistant wrestling coach there decades ago. The former students claim they were sexually assaulted by a team doctor and jordan knew about the abuse. An airplane banner flying over ohio demanding that the congressman resign. Jordan suggests the attacks are politically motivated and insists hes done nothing wrong. I never saw, never heard or told about any type of abuse. I would have dealt with it. Our Congressional Correspondent is joining us now. Is there any serious pressure from within his Republican Party for jordan to step down . At this point, not publicly yet. But this is certainly a critical week for jim jordan as he returns to capitol hill after spending a week back at his home district as this controversy broke. And this controversy has been growing for him by the day as were hearing more allegations from additional wrestlers saying not only did jim jordan know about the abuse, but he went on to do nothing about it. Interest iing today we are seei a more aggressive pushback from his office. Certainly trying to reframe. One say iing that he has good judgment. Hes honest and fair. Another saying pointblank he knows that jim jordan did not know about this abuse. So certainly interesting here as the controversy shifts to jim jordan and his political future trying to be more aggressive in the pushback as he will fight for his political life. Some democrats are looking for a formal congressional investigation into all of this at the same time in contrast to the republicans. Well see what happens. Thank you very much. Did Michael Cohen just draw the battle lines against the president and his team . Sources say cohen is sending a clear message after Rudy Giuliani orders him to cooperate. 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