And reading if you are interested in these two and their relationship. But in her second book, in her of assisted dying. Lloyd norberger says they have more receipt book, Elizabeth Warren tells the same story, but this time, she leaves out the to reconsider the law. Fact that clinton flipflopped this could raise serious and its very interesting because it shows that elizabeth constitutional issues. Warren, she is willing to play does he agree that whatever your views on the subject, the ball a little bit and she is other places to be commended willing to hold her fire. For having a debate but what and thats what she did in her the public really wants is a debate in this house. Second book. We are talking with annie well, first of all, what i would say to my honorable linskey from Bloomberg News about the potential democratic friend, i think a debate is field for 2016. Ron, you are up next, being held. Im sure it will be worthwhile independent caller, go ahead, reading the debate that takes ron. Caller i would like to go ask ms. Linskey was that truly place on friday in the other place. Elizabeth warren make that im very happy for the debate speech in detroit or was that a to be held here. And there are opportunities for reincarnation of huey long . Back benches to hold the bait in the chamber. Im sure the new leader of the host house of commons, im sure host what are you talking about, ron . Caller it seemed to be youre welcome to his place. Well be listening ifer that demagogry of an extreme populist record. For myself, im not convinced that further steps need to be nature. Host host have you switched taken. I worry about legalized youth parties, voted republican, voted democrat in the past . Both. By all thanasia but host as an independent, what do you not like about Elizabeth Warren . Caller it seems to me that mean, lets have the debate. Shes just obsessed with regarding taxing the problems in our economy that are wealthy, can the Prime Minister really not the real problem. Keep his promise and publish the tax returns. The problem we had with the on the subject of taxes and economy, i certainly will not middle income people, whether excuse the behavior of the we go to get an answer from banks, but there were other proble labor about what was it that problems, macro he can no, maamic problems that brought that crisis about. The leader meant and let me repeat it again. I think people of middle income host host there is angindependent. You need independent to win. Should contribute more through their taxes. There is as we go into the guest you know, if she is. Summer there is one party in host host would she . This house with a big tax guest i think she would have a problem and im looking at it. Problem being elected. If she was thisdrantic nominee, mr. Speaker, given that its you know, that kind of rhetoric, the single biggest driver in twhiel it does electivefy and his country. Exciting one part of the democratic base, it absolutely turns off, you know, many, many other segments. Thats why you see by this government signing up republicans, you know, using her frame employers mindful in an add when she does go into these red states and saying, look who is being tie today liberal Elizabeth Warren. Although, its really work. I think it is important and interesting. Late last week, i think it was he helped to do this in on friday, the heritage government where we have a foundation did reach out to situation where Mental HealthElizabeth Warren to see, you s given proproper parity of know, the conservative heritage foundation, to see whether or not she would support them on, esteem. ve made more progress for you know, ending the export import thing, to see if they could find some sort of patients in the n. H. S. Alliance between sort of far right and the far left. He suggests order youve been watching prime Elizabeth Warren did not, you know, she doesnt accept their minister questions from the position, but i think in members huss of commons. Washington, its really interesting to look for these members will wrap up this week before they recess for the areas where the far left and far right might go together. Summer. The Prime Minister questions we will go to connersville i returns to september when members trourn the huss of commons. To catch up on past Prime Ministers questions, watch any ime at cspan. Org. Think what you are doing is great for our cause because you believe in the common man. We need to step up the game on next, a conversation with the the other side of the aisle apollo 11 astronaut buzz because fox news, the plutocrats aldrin. Then a look at some of the possible 2016 president ial channel, we need to fight back with everything we have got. Candidates. Gary, what energizes you after that a discussion on the about 2016 . U. S. Housing finance system. Is it the processing expect of a republican president or the field of potential democrats that you are seeing right now . We are tracked ubiquitously, ty vote for bernie sanders. I think he is the right man for intimately and all the time. Like i think its easier just the job. Just anything that is toward the to assume there are very few times that were not trapped and by that, most people will common working people. Say to me, a lot of times all right. Theyll say, you know, i read a our country, too. Lot for Technology Magazines all right. Bernie sanders . He wasnt there. Like mashable and the i was a little bit surprised because it felt like he was guardian. There. So many people were mentioning and they well, it doesnt affect me because im not on his name. You know, i mean he is not a facebook or my grandmothers democrat. You know, he would have to, you not on facebook. I said first of all, there are know, he is an independent and 45 Million People whose photos are on facebook and can be so people were hoping he would identified through tagging. Be a democrat and would run. I think one of the dangers some so the fact that to say that my activity and my behavior that i know about means that im not being tracked is in general factually just untree. Mentioned playing a spoiler role author john havens on how that ralph nader did before and ross perot has done. Your personal data is tracked and used, monday night at 8 00 eastern on the communicator there was this discussion that we want somebody to run against hillary. On cspan2. Today is the 45th anniversary we want to be talking about of the u. S. Moon landing. These issues. Maybe it will be bernie sappeders if not an Elizabeth Apollo 11 astronaut buzz aldrin warren. Tomorrow on the washington journal, we are going to be taking a look at the republican was our guest. His is 35 minutes. Field for 2016. So, if you are interested in that, tune in tomorrow morning, 7 00 a. M. And we are back with buzz eastern time is when we kick off the washington journal seven Aldrin Apollo 11 astronaut days a week here on cspan. Tina, independent call, hi, marking the first lunar tina. Caller good morning. Landing. Remind our viewers what was the host host good morning. Mission of apollo 11. Caller great. Yeah, i am paying attention and the mission was to carry out as far as i am concerned, i thought sanders was the first for an independent and as far as on may 25th, 1961, to land a warren, warren is, you know, just obama all over again. Man on the moon and to bring and under this administration. Im back safely 1970 whom i voted for, it seems that, i forget exactly that wording. But i use that as a model for you know, paid for the tarps protocol much that we want to another commitment. Wall street. The 50th anniversary. There is more now than when obama came in. I dont think i am going to thats why im doing a lot of redo that and i am not for hings to gin up the 45th so we socialists and communists. My dad just died who fought in world war ii for the real could count up. Democratic party. To the 50th . I think its been hijacked. Yes. And what do you think will thats why i am an independent. How do you want to mark the i wont vote for either one of them. I may abstain and i may swing. 50th . Two the 50th. I dont really know. Guest yes. Host host caller not elizabeth host what do you want to mark warren. Thats for sure. Host the 50th . Host what about the sentiment of the Old Democratic Party guest the next president , until versus this new one which you ta talk about a little bit. , everyoneclose guest there are some people who are trying to look at the tea party for cues about how to assumes it will be a democrat. Change their party, how to shake we want the next president to be able to say, i believe this it up and shake some of the older ideas. Nation should consist it will be i dont know that they are there yet, you know, you look on the right and should commit itself into decade various faxes are spending millions of dollars against each in two decades to a pioneer other. I mean it is indeed a civil war on that side. You dont see thhappening on th planet on mars. Left. Going back to 1969, why although, everyone i talk to says, look, there is one person who has started a group and they are running progressive was it important that the United States be the first, and how do you feel it has changed the candidates against democrats in primaries and so they are using world . Ii, theuring world war the same pump at least on the local level with some success, you know, on the local level. So, i think, you know, germans were the first to come up with a hightechnology walk v2, and had ithe been available a good bit sooner, or had we not overrun in overrun whereot they were launching those records, it could have made a big difference. Because it really tempered london, or great britain. And of course, we came up with the atom bomb in time to drop the last two. There were no others. That was a gamble that president truman made. Released hereto for classified documents of the orders, descriptions of the where the suicide homeowners and all the airplanes that they had held in reserve the suicide bombers for troop ships and the carriers. It was going to be a bloody battle. No surrender. With hiroshima and not the there was nagasaki, an unconditional surrender. But this sputnik came along and surprised us. Why didnt the United States put something in orbit . Sputnik indicated to a lot of nations that we were behind and we had to scurry to catch up. And i believe that is why president kennedy asked his what we can do to beat the soviets. And supposedly, somebody said its going to take 50 years to have a man on the moon. Well, he didnt believe that. Commitment after gegaringeron yuri had flown around. Alan shepard barely into orbit, thats all we could do. 20 days later, he made that speech. , jamesder of nasa wagner, was told what was going to cost. On his way over in the limo to the white house to tell president kennedy what it was going to cost, he took that number and multiplied it by two. [laughs] the first one of major programs that came in on time and under budget. The peak spending in the development of the 20 rocket systems and spacecraft to guarantee at least one successful landing, the peak funding was in 1967 building on up and it was 3. 5 to four percent of the available budget. Host discretionary spending, three percent to four percent. Half 3. 5 and a to four percent. Host what is it today . 0. 5 net 0. 5 and it has been for a long time. Howing on the moon is complicated is going to be and , and ier people feel feel, when they first land on the surface. We will build up their accommodations, their laboratories, there have her cat their habitat before they land. I know a lot of people are going to say, thats not the way we americans do that. I think the chinese would stay there. I think the russians would stay there. On taying guest that is right, they are there for life. Host on mars . Guest right. And instead of justifying why we do that on mars, we will turn around and say, all right, we will bring those people back. Back, they crossed the next people going. The people it trained these people were professionals. And those professionals watched everything those people were doing while they were there, and then they trained the next group. There is not a question when these people come back as to their training the next people. They have already been trained. The question i would ask the skeptics what exactly are you with the human beings, hopefully americans, that the world has spent liens of dollars, the United States has spent liens of dollars of dollarsbillions putting them on the surface of the moon as the pioneering human . Eings the first human beings on another planet, what are we going to do to help defray the ongoing expenses that the world, that the United States, invested in those people . They going to go around and talk to every kindergarten in the country . Are they going to play golf . Are they going to write their memoirs . Life, in my estimation, is going to be miserable. Because that is all they are going to do is talk about it, talk about it. They can do that from mars. Its a oneway communication because of the time difference. But i have yet to have somebody come up and tell me what we would do with the first people that land that would justify the additional expense and time to set up a return system to take with you to launch rockets, the fuel. I have given this an awful lot of thought. I will not be around to be a candidate. But i suspect there will come a when an applicant for an astronaut will sign something to spend thees rest of his life on mars. He can change his mind and we will find another job for him. We have a lot of people lined up to talk to you. The 45thrking anniversary, july 25, 1969, of the first lunar landing. Virginia, kent, youre on the air. Caller good morning, sir. I want to ask you, as far as going to mars, what role do you think private business would play, and what nations would you have cooperate with us to go to mars . And i also want to say i enjoyed your role on the Big Bang Theory and it was very enjoyable. Host guest thank you. The nations that are capable of contributing at first, this will happen first at the moon. We have already been to the moon. We know an awful lot about it. Were we to compete with the other nations, they are less to be theallow us Lunar Development authority that gathers together the other. Ations its very important that we have a working relationship with china. Beyonder earth orbit and , human spaceflight, peaceful ,urposes, it is sort of a trial highly visible to the world, the two nations can work together. July isember that next se 40th anniversary of apollo. Ole use in 1975 that was a pretty warm part of the cold war, with missiles pointed at each other. It was called mutually assured yet, theon, and administrator of nasa will only went to the moon when we went to the moon was a major person behind pushing for this joint mission with the russians. Thinkt think many people that was a mistake. I think it paved the way for more acceptable relations later on. Going back to landing first on the moon, the russians wanted to do that, but they didnt. We gradually caught up with them after mercury and gemini, with all of the things that we did. Uring that it was clear that we were leading them. However, they had the capability of sending one cosmonaut around the moon, and they knew what we were going to do on apollo eight. They did not have the rocket successfully to be able to do that, but it was because of that, that we accelerated the First Mission to orbit the moon ahead of what the schedule was going to be. The first time a cruise on a big rocket, they orbited the moon. Ae second time we ever put spacecraft a crew on a spacecraft, it was a very bold achievement. Host lets go back to that recording in 1969 and hear that famous comment recorded right your colleague, Neil Armstrong. [video clip] the vehicle the eagle has landed. Thermstrong has landed on moon. 38yearold american standing on the surface of the moon. On this july 20, 1969. , it is one small step for man one giant leap for mankind. It is beautiful. Its much like the desert of the heat like the high desert of the United States. Its very different, but pretty. Congratulations. You are cleared for takeoff. [indiscernible] beautiful, very pretty. Very quiet ride. Apollo 11, apollo 11. Buzz aldrin, you were listening to that, smiling, you know, gesturing at a couple of moments. What did you remember . Guest i remember mike collins , when you step on the moon, what are you going to say . Have you thought about that . , he said,n his usual well, i think about it ill think about it when we land successfully. [laughs] host how did he come up with a . Guest i dont know. I thought for a good while that the intelligence person and traveled with us around the , boardfter the flight had beengen, consulted by the crew of apollo eight when on christmas eve, they read from genesis, a very moving decision. I think he was into mental in that. I asked him if he had anything to do with he was instrumental in that. I asked him if he had anything to do with neils words, and he didnt answer. Host here is a tweet. What was it like during an apollo liftoff from her . What did you see and feel . Did you ever feel anything like that on earth . Since then, before, i had lifted off in a Titan Mission in the last gemini program. I think a lot of people had seen movies taken of the shuttle people when they go up, and they are shaking all over. Saturn lifted off so smoothly. We had instruments that told us , andre leaving the ground voice transmissions, but feel it leaving a ground the ground, we both commented afterwards we were not somehow attached to the ground anymore. Hunting ofhe sort of guidance, but if you look at the movies at liftoff, it was so smooth and those engines were moving at all. Host lets go to marion new castle, delaware. Mary, good morning to you. You are on the air with buzz aldrin. All right, let me move on to lidia in woodstock, illinois. Independent color. Caller we have Beautiful Image of the liftoff, except with the challenger spacecraft. I happen to know prior to that launch, that engineers were trying to have that launch postponed. It was postponed several times. They knew that the whole rate was not going to hold up with the cold temperatures. Was reported in the newspaper, probably the chattanooga times. If they knew at the time that was a problem the liddy, why did they that was a possibility, go ahead . Ey those engineers were not being listened to and that launch took place, and that teacher was not the person mr. Reagan wanted her to be. Get aok, lidia, lets response from mr. Aldrin. The action board is by very capable people and they look into all aspects. They have that responsibility. Im sorry to say that to second guess a decision thats made only resistance only raises s that are similar to we didnt go to the moon or there green men here or or the paddle that was illuminated out the window was a ufo. It was not. And yet, people take an inkling of something and carry it on. , buterstand the concern the orings were the cause of the accident. , theysegments of rocket were recovered afterwards. They were dragged through salt water to florida. They disassembled them, string ,hem out, but them on a flatbed saw the wayand they at 40 miles an hour where they put them back into utah and tied them back on, and from that time on, everything close to those segments were treated as hazardous material, even the whole building. I have really never been a fan motorsd rocket associated with human spaceflight. You cannot shut them off once they are started. You have to pull away from whatever the thrust is. And im told that when they blow banghey blow up with a big than hydrogen and oxygen. Anust think it was inappropriate implementation of president bushs vision for Space Exploration after the columbia accident that left us with three shuttles. The Accident Board said the foam did it. We know that means the ice and the foam struck the wing. But president bush said, just finishe Accident Board, the space station. Retire the opera der the orbiter at the end of 2010, because this dangerous mission. We will give you seven years to come up with a replacement. And they said, dont look crew and cargo together on the launch vehicle. I didnt understand what on the launch vehicle meant. I was afraid it open the door to what had been studied of putting the crew on the solid rocket and everything else, and i didnt agree with that. And i told to admirals. Two admirals that i didnt agree, the Accident Board chief, and ahead of expiration of nafta nasa. Host we will go to dan that, independent color. In massachusetts. Caller good morning. I really love this show. Its a pleasure to be talking to mr. Aldrin right there. When i was five years old, i remember the moon landing, asking my dad what is that on tv echo and he says, what is that on tv . And he said, that is a man on the moon, and i couldnt believe it. It changed my life. Buzz aldrin has got to be one of the greatest patriots in the world, with the other nasa astronauts. To risk their lives to get on board these rockets that he was just talking about, the solid rockets. You got to be so brave. Dan, buzz aldrin is saying we didnt have solid rockets, one of thelling you bravest americans. The risen one time when the head of operations brought 30 people into a room and he says, i want to tell you guys that no one who is not in this room right now is going to be on the first landing. It will be from the people here. And i think all of you are qualified to do that and its just going to be determined by the sequence. Now, without going in a lot of detail, 1960 7, 1968, lunar 5 e five 1, 2, 3, 4, was overweight. It was not going to be a lander. The first landing was going to be lunar module six in the middle of october, 1969. It didnt turn out that way because the manager said, i want to reduce the weight on my spacecraft, on number five. He was given approval and he did , and it changed the course of space history. Host at what point did you and mike collins and Neil Armstrong know that apollo 11 was going to be the first landing . Guest it was known when they started deciding, because that clearance for number five had before. Been made i think they flew seven, the first command flight module, and then apollo eight, the first flight around the moon, followed a dressss reversal for herself. Rehearsal. And then we did a dress rehearsal flight in the lunar orbit. Apollo 11 probably would have done another address reversal around the moon instead of landing. Rehearsal around the moon instead of landing. That manager is now a very good friend of mine. Host [laughs] we are talking with buzz aldrin on the 45th anniversary of the landing on the moon. We are marking todays anniversary of the moon landing event, as well as the nasa thementary chronicling apollo 11 mission. That is at 4 p. M. To today. Virginia, go ahead. Caller buzz, very proud of you. It happened on my 20th anniversary from trinity high union ass three reunion. We met john glenn. My son was in a horrible accident and he was so kind. We met his family. God bless all of you. We are so proud of you and we hope all of your work continues. We are very proud of you, buzz, and your whole group. God bless you. Host i look back on my life and my mother was born the same year the Wright Brothers flew. My father was an aviator. I wanted to fly west fly airplanes. I was at west point. I was in combat and had served at the air force academy. I was in germany in 1950 century 1957. We had been controlling the border. But then we switched over to Tactical Fighter with Nuclear Weapons and our aircraft on fiveminute alert. , beep,eat, beat beep beep. It was not a big thing in my considering the conditions, it was a big thing to a lot of other people. Little did i know, that was going to be the beginning of a catchup by night part to switch to being a pilot from being a pilot to being a student who was in space and rendezvous. And eventually, we used some of those techniques to do the first rendezvous. That was after a major decision was to dollo program not earth orbit rendezvous, but a big propulsion station, a big lander. But to be more precise and put everything on one saturn five and do the rendezvous at a distance. It saved a considerable amount of time, money. I believe some of the techniques that i have pioneered since then because of my knowledge of , and orbitsbits between earth and mars that have been vastly improved by students at purdue university, that will be one of the key decisions, i hope, of opening up the access, to usable permanence on the planet mars. Host the front page of the chronicle this morning has this picture courtesy of nasa, a boot print on mars. You were saying before we came on that you took this picture. Uest yes i had a few other firsts, but ive already talked about those two people. It was clear that on such a symbolic mission we had, that the commander should be the one to exit, make that symbolic first step. It just would have been totally inappropriate otherwise. How you and Neil Armstrong decided or Neil Armstrong decided he would go first. Guest we didnt decide. Somebody above us decided. With the workload, the training was on the commander to do some very important maneuvers, liftoff, rendezvous, and the landing itself. The absolute most difficult part of that mission, the landing. Ins was usually the case previous missions. By periments were done and i think the experiments done on the surface of the moon after the symbolic landing should have been more thoroughly gone over and put in my schedule to have done that, relieving neil of the responsibility. He started doing things, and like a loyal follower, i followed him around and we got everything done. Host you have launched a Media Campaign for people to remember ollo 11 with the with apollo45, remembering the anniversary. Why put this in focus . Guest i have a most capable mission director. She is now waiting for the incipient delivery of her second child, logan. Said if it doesnt happen when it is expected, she would like to have them today. She didnt travel with me. Listenede one who had to me so many times as i had gone around to different almost compelling motivation for people to come up to me and say, you do you know where i was when you were on the moon . It was a major achievement. It was a peaceful outcome, a positive. Most remembrances are of tragic events. Pearl harbor. Before going to i was shaving before going to high school. That was a great tragedy that cost many, many lives. The death of people, the assassination of kennedy. The challenger accident, the columbia accident. But apollo first landing, i can tell you the importance of that fade in fade into significance as the first pioneering of human beings to lead hundreds of thousands of years of evolving on the planet earth, and now becoming the first progressive settlers on another planet. That is going to be a major historical remembrance. Just like to remind anyone thinking about becoming , it has aresident very good chance of going down , and i hope this president helps enable that to take place. Host buzz aldrin, we appreciate your time now a discussion on some of the possible 2016 democratic president ial candidates. This is from todays washington journal. Now on see , National Political reporter with Bloomberg News. We are talking about Campaign Democratic central and the potential democratic field. You were talking about rhythm nation. What is that . Largestt is the gathering of progressives in the country and is a group that started about nine years ago and has been growing since. There has been a lot of chatter about how big he has gotten since its early days. This is the left of the left. I was sort of joking that its a little bit like the seatac of the democrats. What is their influence like echo how much power do they wield . Guest that was a big question i kept asking. How powerful are they echo democratic electorate how powerful are they . A democratic electorate that seems so united behind Hillary Clinton, and you look at favorability with other democrats, and this might have been a 10 that has not quite embraced her yet. Launching another candidate is hard to imagine, but they really want to push the debate to left and they want to make sure their issues are debated in the primary. Host what are the issues they care about for 2016 . Guest they really care about income inequality. Wallcare about holding street accountable. They care a lot about the issues that Elizabeth Warren talks about. And one of the surprise issues, for me at least, what was immigration was immigration that they care deeply about. Host running Immigration Reform . Guest wanting Immigration Reform and a little bit of disappointment with president obamas response at the border, even Hillary Clintons response with the migrants gathering at the southern border. Host what are they saying, though, about capability and winning in 2016 . Look at the Quinnipiac University poll. American voters backed Hillary Clinton over leading republican contenders. So far, she can beat any republican that is being mentioned, according to these polls. Guest right. I saw that. Thing thatre is one unites the Democratic Party is the Republican Party right now. Basically, the Republican Party is so far on the right that people are not quite willing to walk away. Even if they dont like Hillary Clinton, you get the sense they will still vote for her. But they want to make sure that she has some sort of challenge, that she does not just walk to the nomination. And they want a challenge to be a time for them to really get her, to flesh out her economic plan, and they want to see hoover economic advisors would be. They do not want to see a larry summers. They want to see people who they believe will take a tougher stance on wall street. You mentioned she did not go to the event. Guest no. Host was she invited . Guest she was invited, yes. According to the organizers, she was invited, and declined the invitation. She has gone to these events in the past. You would think this is a conference she will attend after she announces, assuming she does run. Host her supporters were there. Guest yes, the super pac for hillary, they brought their bus. They had one tent in the conference, but they certainly werent the most popular faction there. They were there waving the flag. Sponsored a bunch. They sponsored the food people were eating. People were eating the hillary cap takes, but were not so excited about the hillary candidacy. Host as you mentioned, Vice President joe biden was there. Elizabeth warren was there. How were they received . Guest i will do biden first. President sitting vice , and any time you have the Vice President in the room, there is electricity around that. But he was heckled from the crowd on the image on the issue of immigration. Hit on a lot of different points, but it was not really directed toward his audience the way Elizabeth Warrens was. These are her people. When she got up and spoke, she was hitting on every single issue they care about. One after another, and her speech was punctuated by people chanting run, live, run run and it cost her to stop her speech it caused her to stop her speech and asked everyone to calm down. Show a littleo bit of both of their speeches. Lets begin with Vice President speech in detroit on thursday. [video clip] imagine a country where we are generating phenomenal breakthroughs and renewable energy, where you can plug in a vehicle and go 300 miles, filling up on electrons cheaper than gas, cheaper than natural gas or coal. It is within our power. [applause] imagine where the perpetrators of Domestic Violence are treated and there is no longer talk about it being domestic. Imagine how that changes things. It is within our power. [applause] imagine where a single employer does not have the right to fire someone because of their sexual orientation. It is all within our reach. Imagine fighting for Climate Change instead of hiding behind in difference. Imagine a country where once again, we value work and we work in a commensurate way where the class where the middle class is expanding. Imagine a country where we expand research and not tax loopholes. [applause] imagine a country where we lead not just by the example of our power, but by the power of our example. Host that was Vice President joe biden at the liberal at detroit on in thursday. Let me show you also a little bit of Elizabeth Warrens speech. She was also there on thursday. Here is what she has to say. [video clip] will be cannotn fight for and it will be a hard fight. Companiesy powerful look for every possible way they can to boost their profits, and to boost their ceo bonuses. They try to win more efficient companies. They try to grow faster. They try to beat out the competition. But many of them have another plan. They use their money and their connections to try to capture washington and rig the rules in their favor. From tax policy to retirement security, those with power fight to make sure that every rule tips in their favor. Everyone else just gets left behind. That is what we are up against. That is what democracy is up against. Just look at the big banks. They cheated american families, crash the american economy, got bailed out, and now the biggest banks were even bigger are even bigger than they were when they were too big to fail in 2008. They still swaggered through washington, blocking reforms and pushing around agency agencies. A kid get out with a few ounces of pot and goes to jail, but a big bank laundered drug money and no one gets arrested. [applause] it is rigged. Host annie linskey, that was Elizabeth Warren on friday, i should say, in detroit, the day after john Vice President the day after Vice President joe biden spoke. The biggest contrast between those two speeches . Guest she was electrifying for the audience there. She has an authenticity that comes through and really speaks the party. Your question was a good one, does it matter . Hillary,e so behind does it matter if there is an Elizabeth Warren . That there is interest in Elizabeth Warren . You have to think about if hillary does run, she will want Elizabeth Warrens endorsement. Perhapscan see that, being something that will push clinton on her issues. And already, elizabeth is talking a little bit about and already, clinton is talking about income inequality. She did talk about it in a speech this summer, and you have to think that is in part because of this Amazing EnergyElizabeth Warren has tapped into a in that issue. We are talking to the democratic field in 2016. Lets go to glenn in new york, democratic caller. Caller think you for taking my call. Usually, the sitting Vice President is traditionally the one who runs for president in the next election. Im curious why there is why joseph biden is being bypassed, really. I mean, hes being overlooked entirely by Elizabeth Warren and Hillary Clinton. And there is nothing wrong with joseph biden as a potential candidate. I will get off the air and listen to your response. Good yeah, sure, another point. It is traditionally the launching pad to the presidency. I just really think in 2008 there was this choice for democrats. Illary clinton or barack obama and theres a sense among democrats that they want to see glasss tubing ceiling shattered. They want to see a woman elected. That is a problem for biden, and that is what is propelling Hillary Clinton forward. ,ost we will go to new york kyle, democratic caller. Caller good morning. You know,ffled as one of the left of the left, im baffled by the fact that we seem to be sidestepping the idea that we have less opportunity with obama having slipped through our fingers, how we did not energize the left that much and we let the right walk all over us. And now we are going to read rally with new energy to elect the next president that will save the world. Host do you doubt that can happen . Have this energy for another democratic candidate . Think that the collision of events that caused obama to be elected was so miraculous i mean, it was like a once in a generation thing, like electing bobby kennedy. For that to be manufactured without understanding how we let this opportunity slip through our fingers and just kind of moveon and have discussion about how entertaining it will be to president , these are puzzling options to me. Saw hadne thing you meant roots was a lack of enthusiasm for Hillary Clinton. There is one woman i talked to, a young woman wanted two years old, and she said, you know, Elizabeth Warren really speaks to me. I said, o, that is really interesting. I was asking her for her name to include in my story. And she said, i dont want to give you my name, because i think i will try to work for the ready for Hillary Super pac. There was this kind of resignation that this is his our person was going to be. Who our person was going to be. You may there is this lack of enthusiasm for another candidate. And theresfinished not a lot of space for an insurgent candidate like obama to come up. Host this energy that you are seeing, is a translating into fundraising dollars for Elizabeth Warren . Warren hasabeth become she has been in the senate now for less than two years. And if you look at her , it is oneact, pac of the largest democratic leadership acts. Pacs. When she sent out an email for being a candidate, immediately hundreds of people respond. That is why you see her going into red states, like kentucky, or west virginia, to campaign for Democratic Candidates in states that obama lost by double toits, because she is able tap into that enthusiasm and raise that kind of money. 1. 3 from open secrets, her level Playing Field pac. And hillary took in 2. 5 million in the last quarter, which is also a lot of money. And they are limiting their donations to 125,000. The two candidate . Guest running for hillary pack is 2. 5 million in the last quarter. Are 2. 8al receipts million. Is she intruding to the 2014 candidate pac . Guest she is giving to candidates, to the party. They are spreading that money around. You have not seen her aside from the virginia governors race. Do the Democratic Candidates want her to come in . Guest that is a good question. I would assume so. Will would assume that she , and as you get a little closer thehe election, but candidate really doing it is Elizabeth Warren. Host we will take a call. Tom, youre on the air. Go ahead. Caller good morning, ladies. Sanders or Elizabeth Warren, it doesnt matter. I think they both make a good Team Campaign ticket. Bill clinton was his removal of glasssteagall. Bill clinton did nothing but turn to the right and i see the exact same with hillary. Guest that was what i heard over and over again, you know, tying hillary to the policies of her husband. I think shes going to have to distance herself from him in order to capture the progressives. That willthe people be out there staffing the phone banks, knocking on doors. That is something that came up over and over again, her ties to wall street. She was the senator from new york. Look at the clinton foundation, Jonathan Allen and i did a story that showed 29 of the 30 dow jones companies, 29 of the 30 Largest Companies in the United States have given money or participated with the clinton foundation. Of thes to the very top u. S. Industry are tight, and that does create some suspicion. It will be interesting to watch her, as she handles that. Host we will go to john next in mississippi, republican caller. You got to turn the television down, so we dont hear the feedback. Go ahead with your question or comment. Hello . I can hear myself. Host we will go on to the next color. You got to turn the television down. Doug, go ahead. Caller good morning, ladies. Im going to give you a scoop and i do believe it will be the governor of massachusetts to be the next president. Why do you say that . Caller because he is the person to do the job. I love hillary and all, but if hillary were to run, it would be the same as running against the president , obama. Because if she were to run, people would see it as clintons third term in the white house. Hes talking about governor Deval Patrick, the governor from massachusetts. He has very good ties to obama, and to clinton. And he is a really interesting candidate out there. He has said over and over again that he is not running in 2016, but he does have his own super pac, and you do see him traveling around. He is a fantastic campaigner. And hes very popular in massachusetts. He gave came in in the beginning of this populist wave. He was part of this clinical machine and he won by reaching out to voters that they had not reached out to before. He is part of the progressive democrats that parts of the party are really pushing for. He has repeatedly said he wants to make some money. There has been talk, at least in massachusetts, that maybe he. Ill run it may be somewhere down the line. Somebody else that we watch, governor martin omalley. That for the first time when i was at net roots, people brought his name up practically. They really liked what he said andune about immigration that is a sort of softer at thee to the children border. Weeks, then recent white house response and the publics response to this issue. Guest they really liked that he was out there on this issue. Host did he did they like that he was fighting with the president . Guest i think that was a story that the omalley people did a pretty good job tamping down a little bit. It appears there was a little bit of misunderstanding between the white house and between omalleys administration on they will do. Omalley has said he did not want immigrants to come into maryland. In fact, he was saying there was one part of the state there has already been antiimmigration graffiti and that is not the best place. There are other parts of the state that he would like to see some of these kids come in. And Deval Patrick has also been out in front on this issue as well. Host we will go to arizona, independent color. Hi, scott. Caller i just wanted to share one thing, and that is, to only see one way, that is, to look thanght ahead, is easier looking at what mistakes we leave behind. There is a great book out called the president s club, and in one section in their it references president eisenhower and president kennedy and the cuban missile crisis not the cuban missile crisis, but the bay of pigs, that fiasco within the first 90 days. Youve got to get the best people in the room and let them fight it out. Clinton should not be a coronation. We need the best to fight it out to lead our world. Host here in this piece, Hillary Clintons 2016 moves echo failed to thousand eight campaign. They write that shes on track to make her candidacy on her resume rather than vision for the future. This yes, theres criticism that when you look at her vote, it is about the past. It is not these newer things in thee coming up progressive movement, and the Democratic Party. Yes, everything from whether she will be changing her staff and willlittle bit there is aw blood . Question as to whether she is going to open up a little bit. Diane sawyer, in her very first , we arew about the book not sure if that has happened, or come outwill run with a little bit more authenticity that has been missing, and a little bit more vision. Warren buffett has had the same question for her, like, what is your idea going to be . She addressed this a little bit on charlie rose, that there needs to be big ideas and there will be. Whose books do best, and the bottom line, the conservatives, their books tend to do better. I was talking to a woman from Simon Schuster about that. For whatever reason, conservative books do tend to do better, and i do not know if they preferred that method, but i think it just shows there is an intense interest in her and her candidacy role. That is going to dominate our airwaves for a while. Host we go to diana next from naples, florida. Hi, diana. Our guest is from Bloomberg News. Imagine, i have voted 15 or 16 times. Democrats did not look at being a real democrat. When i talk about it, i want to say right now, if they do not aside the minimum wage increase, all of these issues, samesex marriage, ridiculous, what we have to do, and i love her, she had 83 of the vote down in florida in the primary. And she was really gung ho. I cant think of the words, but they have to stop this. I am too nervous to talk. What do you think they need to focus on . You said Hillary Clinton and these democrats. What do they need to focus on . The United States and these trade things. All of these, the clothes, we dont make anything in america. We need jobs. They wont concentrate on that. They are asking like thats out. Global trade. Okay. . If we dont if we dont start producing jobs for people and they just stepside step, you know, step aside on this issue. I think thats the most important thing. They wont do it. Okay. All right. Yeah. You know, the caller makes a great point and thats another issue that came up again and again. I talked to somebody there who was a brick layer in indiana and he said, there are 16 vakt occurs. I can tell you they closed down and he believes they closed down because of nafta. He said there is no way i am going to support bill clintons wife after, you know, i look at these 16 factories and like your caller pointed out, you have these trade deals coming um. This is another issue that Elizabeth Warren she hammers on it every single speech to probationives. Her line about it is they are made in secret. The reason that they are done in secret is because if you knew what was in them, you wouldnt support them. So, you know, she galvanizes a lot of support because of her opposition to many of the trade deals. Take a look at danas column today. Elizabeth warren for president he wonders . And he writes in here he was watching Elizabeth Warren at a hearing and after the hearing, he told her stamp that he wanted to button hole her in the hallway and do an interview with her. I wanted to write about the war ten presidency hoopla. We dont do hallway interviews was the reply in the from the stamp. She said she would see about a phone interview but six hours later reported she couldnt make this work. She had been on the floor writing thank you notes while taking turns in the presiding officers chair. They say she is unusual among senators in her refusal to take questions. She is invariabley guarded by staff as she walks about the capitol and the few interviews she has done have generally been on the defined topics, such as her book, where the risk of unanticipated questions is low. Such reticence is certainly not a fault but is the behavior of a lawmaker who plans to keep her head down and to do her job as a legislator, not someone who is contemplating the glare of the national spotlight. Its next to impossible to get her in the hallway, to get her before or after a vote, which is typically when you will grab the senator. I mean he is absolutely right about that, now, i will say if you are in her show state and you go to events, you know, i cover her in massachusetts, and, you know, you can grab her in her home state and get those questions. So, i think there is a little bit of skepticism about the dr. Bavikati media and, you know, i can understand that. You know, i think she doesnt she is very she doesnt want to be caught saying something flippantly off of the cuff that ricochets around to the d. C. Media bubble. I do get that because there is a contrast for when she isnt in her own state. What is the relationship like between Elizabeth Warren and Hillary Clinton, if there is one . Thats a great question. Would there be room in a hillary administration, if there is a Hillary Clinton administration if there is one for an Elizabeth Warren . Wow, you know. I talked to one person who jokingly said Elizabeth Warren for treasury secretary which would terrify wall street, i cant, perhaps more than an