Is back and joining us but the Public Television studios and sector to california eye of from the Mcclatchy Video Lab and the moderator for tonight seventh Congressional District of a. Joined by a panel of journalists the audience has been asked to refrain from applause during the debate. The broadcast audience those you are watching through online live stream or listening over the radio. Now we will need to the candidates representative bera represented the district since 2013 and republican scott jones elected as Sacramento County sheriff 2010. Each candidate will have one minute followed by followup replies. But first return to the panel. But the first question goes to mr. Jones. Sharon jones a lawsuit of women that filed against the Sheriffs Department including the deposition of a female deputy alleged dace series of encounters with the between 2003 and 2005. You have denied her claims butted judge has not weighed in on the allegations. What is the difference between her story and your story . Is she lying . Jones she is lying. Banks for being here tonight. First let me start by telling you and the people in the seventh district allegations are absolutely untrue i deny the very chance i have had. The first came to light about one year ago and i did you leave thing i can do with the a related lawsuit id id allegations and the strongest terms possible. Again i denied them endeavor since but i can tell you in every election i have opened up my personnel records and i have not had an internal complaint of any kind for any reason in my entire 28 year career. Bera the allegations were widely reported through the deputy testimony is pretty disturbing. This 26 rolled under oath city section a roster over 30 times in your made her life miserable but she was afraid of retaliation that was pretty shocking. We dont have to guess what happened this cave mouth did a lawsuit. That the deputies brought against your dealership. They did not believe you and they ruled against you. Now over 10 million this is disturbing and shocking what was going on. Noblemen should ever have to face this type of harassment. I hope you get in next chance to explore that but the allegations i dunno why her value to say under oath is any more than be denying that under oath you care we deny them that what you dont hear too supports including the alleged victim with in a motion from the plaintiffs attorneys to come through the depositions that would never was most beneficial for the motion. Detre a measure of what was said is found in the depositions that are still under seal. He then enter testimony you admitted you kissed in the last for ever to be moved under supervision. And that you reach out and center in the mail and she said she doesnt want anything to do with to the relationship was toxic new ticket vantage of her at of boiler will time of life. Moving on to our next question. Friends and family donated to your campaigns and reversed by a rather more than a quarter Million Dollars to know what theyre redeeming in that time. Had to expect people to know that you were unaware new york did you attend his sentencing quick. What i father did they were consistent that eiger my campaign had an idea what was going on. But this mistake they face the consequences. But to be pretty clear about that my dad just reached out to Say Something to the campaign and said you cannot do this it is against the law. Theres some ewes you can help. This will be a tough year for us. My dad made a mistake and those of the consequences. Jones it is a tough issue i take no pleasure to talk about i have been reticent to comment publicly the supporters say i had to pounce on this issue but i decline to do so. But when i was asked if the congressmans father should go to prison i said no. This special emi to of who we are letting out. But i did render opinions defied to think representative bera about it and i do think he did but that is my opinion from a lawenforcement lens to believe that he did did you have to believe that the 90 friends and family of representative bera who knew what was going on in teaching in a conspiracy over four years to keep that information from him or seek had no problems with those families difference but i simply do not believe he did not know about it. So how du expect them to believe you did not know about this . Congressman bera we fully cooperated with investigators u. S. Attorneys office has been Crystal Clear we are clear that i nor my campaign had any idea what was going on. And facing the consequences. Trying to get my mom and dad there. Jones first of all i disagree with the statement the u. S. Attorneys said they didnt know about todays said they couldnt find any evidence to suggest congressman bera knew about and headed said different specter. But but the person who committed the crime bill nickerson to receive the benefit was elected at to terms. Sheriff jones according to recent poll 50 percent of voters support proposition 64 legalizing marijuana and california but federal law says both medicinal and recreational uses still illegal. Do support prop 64 and if it does pass we fight to protect the rights of californians against federal prosecution . Jones i absolutely do not support proposition 64 think it would be horrible much as for this generation but for future generations. But that acc content these days is nothing like of 20 1 3 years ago that the voters may seem a violent. Hugh a. California is the tip of the crazies bear with legislation bobby of other examples colorado, washington with those results with the initiative was modeled after the california model if you look at the increase incidence of emergency room visits by young people of driving while under the influence of marijuana all the voters have to do is to predict will happen here but because of population is on a grander scale. When did the media problems is there is no dosage it could be 1 8 but it takes an hour to take effect if they eat the entire cookie but then they overdose. Prop 64 support . Bera of the issue of medical marijuana but those with chronic disease with regards to legalization. And interns of addiction what i am support event . Yes. The voters should decide we should honor with the voters recommend but i do have concerns about the addiction potential. But what they do worry about is the criminalization of those with killed the jails because of the position of marijuana we do need criminaljustice reform. And would this pass. Nobody in my jail for possession of marijuana. Brcs nation of was this done my entire life enforcing the laws if it would pass the wooden floors that law and not try to enforce the law passed by the voters want. Bera this is up to the voters that is why we have ballot measures. Moving on to national security. Congressman bera we asked some of our readers for the questions why do support the Iran Nuclear Deal and allow the Cash Payments to iran which could be used to underwrite terrorism . That was a difficult negotiation as part of the Foreign Affairs committee. To set and talk to the military leaders. And to reduce of Nuclear Threat to make it much more difficult to obtain Nuclear Weapons. With most of those experts have suggested of east for the next decade least those that are opposed i do i would be getting attacked for a tough vote like that but we do want to get into another war in the middle east. But even those like the secretary of state powell said it is a big deal. Of those were the goals and remiss on both counts weve done nothing but put off the inevitable to allow lybrand to achieve Nuclear Weapons capability at the end of the deal. The best predictor of future contact is past conducted on a wiry make them like a friend there under severe sanctions that were working by the way so they have not followed the rules up to this point. They fired off missiles that say israel must die. They drive by the state sponsored terrorist factors these are things as they have signed the deal there will never comply with the deal number one and number two this is horrific the survey for the next generation have to clean up their mess and that i hope we have a question to explore that Second Commission question. Jones as one of the members of congress to ranchette of sanctions the goal was to get them to the table. And the goal was to reduce the Nuclear Threat that is not the same to say iran is acting as a responsible actor. That is why we continue to keep the pressure off on iran and a strong phyton sanctions. We have the knowhow states policy in the jail the keeps officer save. That puts every american air risk. This bill out of his own committee was designed to stop the Cash Payments of all different denominations and this would have prevented that in the future as bipartisan support as they still double down. The next question. You have opposed legislation of those of the various terror watchlist like the federal nofly invest. The polls show the public supports this be suggested congress should have other strategies to stop one other measures implied this is such of bad idea . Jones it isnt a bad idea very the nation not be able to purchase firearms what i came out was the finest diversion of the nofly list because it was invested in tirelessly in a political appointee. Five no noconfidence of this industry should to bet any will let alone a nofly this. Eye for a period of time was not allowed to checkin on line and had to verify clearly was not the nofly best but by those same reason i was left off the list. There are enough oddities in incorrect results from the list i want to see a better list. If you were on the nofly this too should not be able to buy one to see a proper one not haphazard and under control of a political appointee. Bera if we do not listen begin on the airplane we will not let them buy a firearm. One that is why the senate on the house floor but us vote on that because we know the majority of the public cares about this and supports this. So if they get on bill listed there is that mechanism this oddity how to read make sure they dont end up in the hands in a list is perfect but it is a pretty good list we dont allow them to get on an airplane while we do get an assault weapon . It doesnt make sense. What antiterrorism steps would you push . Spirit that is a loaded question idol think were doing anything. With the of leadership role of every issue i hope we get to explore that further. But we have to win the war against terrorism but we have to be a leader and take it seriously. Give me head better list m piece of legislation and i will support that. Take that to the 600 special forces right now that eliminate isis to take the force is we have men and women that are out there if you say were doing anything we have look those did home and security and National Intelligence dont insult them. It isnt easy but the we have to do better job. To recuse russia to interfere with the election to cyberattacks. The u. S. Government would like the encryption key to see data in my phone was to the u. S. Response me to Foreign Countries hacking our information . Should u. S. Government have the ability to hack the data of the citizen quick. That is a great question we have to take Cyber Security threats seriously and russia is doing we dont have to guess because the intelligence is a cyberattacks. To fight back with those tools that we have. And to protect ourselves with the privacy. Only under the worst of the circumstances and should that be trampled. You have specific ideas wish did beat . You have to have a proportional response to send a message back to russia and this is not okay particularly it seems that there is direct evidence of a president ial election. Jones their regional host of the high Crimes Task Force we are fully aware of the threats it is a growing trend as been identified as the number one emerging global threat of packing and things like that. But once we draw a line in the same and we have to be prepared to back it up with sanctions were reciprocal stopping people would never have to do. Remember the first part of the question. But what is the response . And i agree did say robust discussion is a balance between the emerging threat that is ever increasing to balance against peoples privacy i suspect it is before 9 11 but we live in a different world now. Bera the cyberthreat is very real. But they have of hard time to hire within the government who have those professional talents to help minimize college and they come work for the government that be will help defray to make college free. That we have to have that talent. Digest 12 address uh part of the president ial election but it needs to be stopped. It has no place of partisan politics it is a crime and should be addressed as such. Next question. What was 82 to overhaul the nations immigration policy and specifically do you agree with Donald Trumps planned to build the wall Mexican Border 27 most of you probably know that one of my officers was killed by someone that had banbury route for prior occasions. We absolutely need to resolve once and for all. But with two separate issues of Border Security absolutely secure borders that does not mean a 2,000mile wall but a combination of people to 1 4 cent some fencing and technology. But there are consequences to enter our country illegally it is not unreasonable to know who comes in and leaves our country. Every other country has that it should be our standard with meaningful reform. I would advocate a pathway to the ghost that is for each and everyone if they can pass a background check. Bera the starting point is a comprehensive immigration bill that is bipartisan there is one started in the last Congress Passed the senate with over 80 votes with the Republican Leadership would not allow it to come 24 for the vote. The stars of protecting our borders but also allow us would negative lets 11 Million People who were undocumented those sorority contributing it creates a way for them to come out of the shadows and addresses the best and brightest to get their education and build their companies here. I would go back to the comprehensive Immigration Reform bill you hear senator the instagram to say in this next congress it is one of secretary clintons priorities. Whenever we have done so far does not work fitted as ben over four decades. So if they could pass a background check should be given the pathway to the ghost dad is. To have secure borders without consequences as we get the situation stabilized but the fact is this satisfies neither side in its entirety which means it is a pretty good bill. Now it is time for a little break and the candidate to kennedy questions. Each candidate will have 10 seconds to ask a question and sheriff jones will go first 60 seconds for the answer and 30 seconds for the rebuttal. Jones . Bera one negative congressman bera u. S. Been very negative and viciously attacking your opponent. November 9 million labatt a few men or lose and be proud of the campaign you have run the idea is that we have is also about the character of the individuals. This is difficult eye have heard you talk about this and as hard as it is it has to be hard youre rooting for one of the highest offices in the country making critical decisions whether resend men or women into harms way so it has to be hard but the voters out there have a choice when they choose who they will affect as a representative representative, has to be about character and a track record. I am brought to stand behind by a track record the fact that theyre working to break the gridlock in congress we will move the country for word by campaigns are about choices. Moderator 30second rebuttal. Jones it is important to educate the voters about the different types of commercials there are ones that we approve that we pay for that i approve this message are those that put out on our behalf we have no control by law but all of my money and commercials that you see i approve this message are positive talking about issues and for me on november 9 and will be extremely proud of the campaign i have run. Moderator at your opportunity to rest the question. Bera we will make one of the most important decisions to pick the next president of the images states. Donald trump or hillary clinton. Put the one to support is an expresident of United States ex. Jones i have been clear i parted my support care taken a lot of heat for the last year because a separate vote for donald trump eye never endorsed him publicly with the opposition of issues we have been i am not alone but the america that no matter which candidate you choose clinton or donald trump there will have to be of certain amount of those holding and the polls show those high negatives we have to separate the cared candidate with the policies. For that reason i can overlook the character deficiencies of my candidate donald trump until recently and then the video that captured the conversation on the bus and the allegations whether they are true or not i am not telling anybody else out to vote but he talked about things i have no discretion eye had to depart at that time. Bera it didnt take me a yearandahalf to understand Donald Trumps character did not make it fit to be president of United States sovereignty was assaulting a goldstar family that lost their son that was not enough . Making fun of disabled people, that was not enough . Making comment after after, disparaging women was not enough . He does not have the character to be president for gold in a few weeks ago his poll numbers taint and use all yours take with him that you can about against him. Moderator we are moving on. Only one bottle on those questions. We touched on the economy. Congressman bera, the clinton tax plan calls for increases for the high earners the tax policies centers say it can raise 1 trillion over the next 10 years but it has no impact on 95 percent of american taxpayers. Do support her plan . To rethink it is time in the incometax payers get a tax break blacks. Bera absolutely. Look into was suffering we have to have tax policy that not only addresses massive and com equality but does starts by reinvesting innersoles and schools to make sure those that want to go college can afford to go to college and that they are able to find jobs to pay a foreword. The reason small segment that has done well how to make get them to pay their fair share . That is what the country is built on. But we have talked about with republicans and speaker ryan the comprehensive tax reform but how do you address the individual tax code to address in cannes inequality by spirit that donald trump plan calls for massive tax cuts but there is concern of the deficit. You have the economic station but that economic divide is growing wider by the middleclass needs to be. My family and friends are middleclass. When i talk to people that is the second most things they are worried about. That the slowest economic recovery this country has ever had. Number one the tax code that i escape taxes and any nation in the country 22 simplified to give families of breaking and regulatory reform. The explosion from this administration and the federal spectrum is untenable and does allow Small Businesses to thrive and discourages new businesses and 30 jobtraining a lot of people are in jobs they are overqualified and to train those for the new nt emerging Industries Like steel alternative Energy Market waited jobs market for tomorrows market. But right now that is happening with that tax policy to make sure they pay their fair share. But the other thing is but a class doesnt always have the benefit of their dont get subsidies or more Affordable HealthCare Insurance that unqualified for better tuition. They ought to do enough policy to access those programs as well. I dont know enough about it but i do know what drives the economy is that my dad is a smallbusiness owner eye gravitys conversations around the dinner table about the burden of the smallbusiness economy is driven by business we need to do everything we can to recurs that to keep jobs here in america instead of shipping overseas. Sheriff jones eagle said obamacare is not how you would put people to be ensured would use scrap that our change the system breaks jones identify the problem i dont know if anybody would disagree by any measure the Affordable Care act is an abysmal failure except million sherd over 20 billion didnt have insurance that is good but at what cost . Many changes only have one choice a lot of people in the seventh district and not on the Affordable Care act but have seen their rates go up every single year some as high as 60 or 70 percent for premiums it is on a trajectory that is not sustainable something clearly has to be done. Idol think that was scrapped the whole thing but there are parts of it to insure the uninsured that our worthwhile the endeavors my preference would be to build upon what is there. Dear you do the course correction the less you have to correct the course we need to get on this right now to use this as a base to go in a different direction. Should obamacare be scrapped about would you do to change the system could. That is not what i would have done but it is the loss so make it better it did give 20 Million People access to care. But the most urgent thing right now is the cost of health care to make that affordable. In certain states like california you do have a Robust Exchange so you have to have more than one insurer to have competition. We have seen prices soar out of control right now we have to address the cost of medication to bring drug prices down and stop moving away from rewarding feeforservice we are starting to do that but going towards rewarding quality and efficiency. The problem with congress right now is on the democratic side we are not addressing to make this better on the republicans cited is repealed we have to break of gridlock to have a little conversation. Dont disagree with what congressman bera is saying it is an indication that both democrats and republicans need to transcend the the party but to reiterate this competition nothing drives down price like competition to have more Insurance Companies and the exchange across state lines will drive down cost. Bera we can agree. This is about competition to give people a choice but also about doing things. I know as a doctor how do afford these medications . We have to address the cost of pharmaceuticals with it the price gouging epinephrine cost pennies so how are they paying 600. Congressman bera, the total u. S. Didnt data is 1. 2 trillion dollars. The increasing cost of hiring dictation deters some from pursuing battle together. What would you do to alleviate the financial strain and young adults following the completion of their degree. Bera i paid 393 per quarter to go to medical school for years of medical School Graduate less than 10,000 of debt we have to get back to that. So to pay that interest but the more important part is how did they get into such debt . That will require looking at if we can get them through college in four years with less debt. Looking at different ways of teaching i am all in favor of Free Community college because that is the plays faults can get news skills. But then we have to think about new ways of teaching and using new techniques. Kinking about ways of competency based the faster you go the of quicker you graduate to get the courses that you want to make to alleviate that financial strain greg. Mine was 420 per quarter a was a little behind you right now have by daughter that is a sophomore and i pay 25,000 for her to go to school. There are two ways to reduce student that looking at the front end with the administrative cost. Right now agenda paul atomics five its 70,000 plus one had to 42,000 to help remove plus free housing and a 10,000 car loan. Lets not forget to cutting not excessive spending with the administration with highcost of tuition. On the back and you have a student at look at that as well. It is my preference to have your college debt payments once you are established to have the payments be tax deductible to alleviate that burden somewhat. Bera i am supportive of that and president obama has put out the ability of what you pay back should be tied to your salary the more you make the more you pay back. I also think we should address the cost of tuition. This is about paying for word the fact i did not have that data allowed me to be a doctor so i could pay it for word portauprince sheriff jones have intensified the dropped. What would do do in washington to fight Climate Change . Jones that is a huge political buzzword they have created a lot of discussion by preferred to look at it in terms of the consequences. Weather Climate Change exist and to what extent it doesnt matter because the goals to mitigate the effects are worthwhile to reduce our dependency on Petroleum Products and create cleaners safer Energy Sources private support all of those for those purposes. Linage changes real. All we have to do was look at the temperature every year look at the mountains. We have lost hour soft back in the nests of the drought we have to get ahead of this. But the Climate Changes real so we can start debating what we can do to mitigate Climate Change and then hopefully a turnip back. Is a real issue. To talk about the drought and the wild flowers that are now normal that we see every year. We could do a couple things so lets start to move into renewable and cleaner Energy Sources. Isobars secretary clinton and president obama moving in that direction to create jobs. There is no reason we cannot be the superpower for clean energy. Jones everything should be about balance it cannot be at the expense of like human beings on the planet need right now. I support renewable and cleaner Energy Sources eye also support our existing coal and petroleum and Natural Gas Resources as well as we move toward a new Clean Air Energy paradigm. Public safety and guncontrol. Congressman bera you are critical of the weapons permits issued by the sheriff if your daughter is cesspool would you rather us every on campus with a concealed weapon permit or wait for locally please officer . Bera i rather have lawenforcement to have gone through training take care of that. I worry about a concealed carry permit and what would happen but the issue of Community Safety is broader than that. As a clinician this is a problem in congress as they collect data to study the impact may be it does make us safer maybe it doesnt publish a study to see the effect of the impact of the assault weapons ban right now congress the republicans will not let us pass a bill to collect data to allow the ctc to study the data. By california stepped up to the plate allocated some of the best doctors and scientists so lets do what we need to do to keep our communities safe. 8,000 conceal permits. 8,000 people would be safer. There is nothing overside years but the quantity of what die issue. It might need someone to conclude nothing could be further from the church. But over 400 tons at a dance of the bad guys. Eye screen everybody as well as i can with knowledge of the law enacted go through courses of safety to demonstrate what you have to do to get a drivers license if you depart from that then is revoked eye and mind of the few shares in the states that continue to monitor for a good Decision Making after they get their permit for at the end of the day they give 8,000 people the opportunity to protect themselves increasingly dangerous world i am proud of that. Talk about revoking 400 concealed carry permits im curious how they got through the . We ought to do background checks if somebody buys an assault weapon that could be used for mass killings. We ought to be doing smart policy to keep us safe it isnt about Second Amendment and law abiding those who want to own a gun there are those theyre perfectly willing to wait six days to go to the background check the same as concealed carry get for the assault weapons. I do revoked two or three a month the right about that area i have a process right continue to monitor after words if i can only make a decision based on what i have a say have continued course of Decision Making and have demonstrated that to the extent we can investigate if they want one for personal safety but that doesnt mean it is carte paunch that among some that comes to their attention that is devastating a take the responsibility to issue those permits seriously. Smith that releasing negative cam video with that shares department to make more transparent in this regard greg. Purse now were doing testing to have body carries deployed right now. But the legislature needs to be out of this and with the profession of Law Enforcement without the need for the legislature to intervene. Might agency would be several Million Dollars per year. That does not occur in a vacuum either the other problem i have is the n carr camera there is a lot of noise on poolsides for to be private as part of the public records act or public but until that is resolved it is very difficult to go to the body can people do reserve rights of privacy the people that become in contact with deserved privacy rights. I am in favor of body cameras the more information we have. The men and women protecting our community have a difficult job to make a splitsecond decision. They get right 99 percent of the time that 1 we have to be transparent and learn from that. You may get everything right 99 percent but that one mistake to have to be transparent and that is what bothers me what we saw this is disturbing. It very much appears to keep information from coming out that is exactly to learn from this to prevent the next accident. Is selling like congressman bera has a definite opinion on body cameras. The additional burden to maintain the integrity but to what we would do. But to release a video in one case the policy should be for the entirety of the profession the video should be mideast but the integrity the integrity should be maintained. Congressman bera confessed to killing one of the deputies in a share of deputy as well precocious the Death Penalty be allowed in california or Capital Punishment be left to the federal government . Bera i would want justice of five was sitting there in the form of the Death Penalty but the problem is in california it doesnt work it does not bring closure to families. People said to on death row for years on end. we talk about wife imprisoned without the possibility of parole. I will answer generally be do needed Death Penalty for the most heinous of crimes nobody is on death row by accident they earned their way there. You are right this system is broken that is why the initiative to reform the Death Penalty is so important to shorten the time to requires them to work and reduces the cost for everybody. But it does need to be reformed. And the Death Penalty as it existed is broken and they sit on death row for years party reason so to reform the Death Penalty it will help families find closure and bring resolution much quicker. I would rather save it for closing arguments. Moderator it is that time for closing the statements. You can go first with 90 seconds Senate Everybody has heard information where we stand and where we differ on issues but this is not a race. Is this a race of two incumbents of congress or as sheriff. The best predictor of future performance this past performance i have run one of the largest Sheriffs Departments in the country. The best predictor is past performance. I have a demonstrated record of success and leadership that i will take with me to washington so with that, i want to thank you for hosting and our sponsors for asking the questions and my wife and daughter in the audience and i look forward to earning your vote. I want to thank the panel and the moderator and those watching at home. Campaigns are about choices. The sheriff talked about saving money but what about the 10 million in losses that we are on the hook for. The jury didnt believe you and ruled against you and weve seen repeatedly yesterday we saw another lawsuit was settled and so, there is a pattern here. What weve accomplished is pretty remarkable and we are trying to break through this gridlock and get democrats and republicans working together and the cochair of the problem solvers caucus. I also proud of the work weve done here in the district. We helped nearly 7,000 individual seniors, veterans and others get Social Security benefits, medicare benefits. Weve helped people recover over 3. 5 million. Thats what this is about is making a difference in peoples lives. Its been aimed honor to be a member of congress the last four years. It would be my honor to have your vote on november 8. Thank you so much for sharing your views with us tonight. We covered a lot of ground and im sure you would agree. Thank you to the audience for remaining quiet this entire time and if you want to applaud now, now is your chance. [applause] thank you to the analysts for sharing your questions this evening and of course to everyone at home. Election day is three away into the last day to register is monday october 24. Thanks for joining us. Good night. [applause] todays debate was brought to you by the College District and the sacramento bee. House candidates debated last week republican faces Randy Perkins for the open seat held by the Senate Candidate patrick murphy. The district contains martin countbartoncounty and part of ph county. Palm beach gardens hosted this forum. Each candidate has 60 seconds to respond, then a 32nd rebuttal. He will begin first in this round. Ms. Rodriguez. Do you suppor support a state senators proposal to buy 1. 2 billion of land south of the lake to send border south to curb the discharges to the st. Lucie and covers apache rivers and how do you plan to push this in congress and is not whaif notwhat is your solution . To convey water south towards the florida bay the way that thi proposed getting any funding for this program ive said often that i would like to be a member of the committee of transportation infrastructure. Its that committee that passed the Resource Development act and as the next member of congress i will go back to that committee and worked to get the next set of