Transcripts For CSPAN2 Harry 20240705

Im guessing that harry dunn didnt expect to be here today, im also guessing that he didnt expect to be on speaking circuit, let alone write a book. And hes been saying in interviews rather be unknown. He didnt. He didnt at first expect to be a Police Officer in the congressional be more on that later. Most of all, he didnt expect to be on the front lines and he didnt he didnt even expect to don a badge. He actually thought of Something Like football and more of that like he the front lines battling his fellow, spurred on as the congressional bipartisan and january six committee, he testified before found were inspired by former donald trump to stage a insurrection to the us capitol in a failed attempt to overturn a free and fair us president ial election. But what harry will harry dunn did in becoming a Police Officer protecting congress, which is where we first crossed past during my time covering. Officer defended the capitol on january six 2021 along with his colleagues some of whom died but but president ial citizens and the congressional gold medal later ended up paying a heavy price that hes still coping with. But he decided to turn his traumatic experience into a platform to speak out about Mental Health and democracy and write a book book called standing my ground. A capitol Police Officers fight for accountability and good trouble. After january six. So lets welcome harry dunn to the National Press. Thank you. So, harry, i just wanted to let know were going to have a bit of a conversation and then im going to turn turn it over to the folks here. Thats fine. First of all, once talk about since this is a press club, we have to talk about how the book came together. What inspired to write it . What was the writing process like . The editing process talked a bit, talked to us about how the book was actually inspired and constructed. Well, thanks for having me. Make sure i give you the answers right. My literary agent is here and my no, im like i said, i didnt expect to be in this space right now where we are. I was afraid, tweeting a lot. And i was, you know, putting a lot of thoughts. And i realized i was garnering small following really small started that way. And i realized that also it was me feel better putting these tweets and these thoughts i have this on my phone a folder of audio recordings of just me venting and id just be recording in my phone, literally at work sometimes i look some of the recordings are like 17 minutes and then its profane, least. Started talking to some influence or people, people that i admire or people i respect and. I was named john bank, nbc correspondent, richard, i did an interview with him and we talked camera about 15 minutes or so and he said, harry, you need to write a book. And thats the first time i heard it. You know. Then i started actually giving it traction and, you know, reached to a couple of people and they connected me with my team and. Here we are. Thats how it. All came together. It was cathartic for me. Write the book. I had a coauthor i wrote it with and we bumped heads a lot because i didnt like some the things that were in there. Like i wouldnt say this and. Im a Big Personality and i need to make sure that always comes to the forefront and you know i dont want to say people expect me to say with this is you know my my words a memoir my life and experiences. So the toughest part about writing the book was how to end it, because the world is still on fire. And i was to use my book as like a fire extinguisher, a but jesus christ, like how . And by the way. If anybody saw me on the view, thats how thats what i got censored on the view several times i said, jesus, thats you said, thats what i said. My parents were in the audience. I wasnt going, i was looking, i thats my word. Vanity. No, i said, jesus christ, but no, i tried to use this book as a fire extinguisher, its like a sobering reality of this life. I dont want it to. Paint the picture of, you know, all you know, roses as we are in a dire state right now in this in this country. So that was one of the toughest parts were how to end. But the actual process was, you know, it was eye opening. And you have to surround yourself with good people that actually know what theyre doing. Because i have no idea what im doing. So are you sure about that . Yeah. Yeah. Far as like the actual, you know, the, you know, the technicalities and stuff but theres one you just touched on something that that struck me at the end of the book and well get to the other parts of the book later. Is that this story keeps going. And i want to sort of kind of sort of rapid fire get some of your reactions that where the book left off now were starting to see the Legal Proceedings kick in. Yeah with much larger players because you were talking about the smaller players in the book now the president s former chief of staff several of his former attorneys, i mean, its starting to move. And the president himself has been on the stand just yet. You know just yesterday in chats. What do you make of whether its sink the extinguisher, as you call it, of how the system is or not working or, you know, the things that you expressed in very passionate terms throughout the. What do you make of whats happening now with the former president and chief of staff, former lawyers. All of it. Well, the system is working. It is delayed pace. I guess it would be january six this year. But three years since. But just to touch on another look how long donald trump has been doing these things that hes being charged with and is finally paying off. So i do believe that its working. You know, with the criticism it at a snails pace. Thats its important and the theyre the narrative now that they are trying to discredit it. As you know, when facts arent on their side. They attack the system then because they cant have facts on their side. So they attack the institutions. Know the fbi is under attack. The department of justice is weaponized and all stuff. And its the institutions work. If we have these these safeguards the safeguards our american people. You know it frustrates me, though, that these institutions that have trusted tried to for centuries. Now they attacked them as being in not credible and their followers are buying in to it. Bennie thompson told me one day that the best disinfectant is truth. So we need more people to do speaking truth to power. And like i said, thats why, you know, one of the reasons i hope my book is that a lot of people, me about the congresspeople and, politicians or mayors who repeat these lies. You know, if they read my book, great. But the book isnt for them. The book is for the american people. And open some eyes and inspire to continue to speaking truth to power. Speaking the book, theres some talk in terms of the structure it seemed to be part catharsis. There was a definite Mental Health track to this piece, part democracy primer, part history primer. Was that intentional . So im this big hodgepodge of all that stuff that you just named. Yes. It was intentional especially the Mental Health aspect of it. You know, you show me somebody who says they got it together all the time, then ill show you the biggest liar, the face of this earth, because we all struggling with something. We all are. But i wanted people know where i got this forceful pride from. And that goes back to, i guess, the way i was raised that all that to my parents, to the. My upbringing i had some experiences that maybe some people cant relate to. Maybe they cant. But like what . Well, i talk specific incidents. I played sports and then i was on medicine as, a child for adhd and it made me feel weird being medicated as a kid. I felt like was wrong with me and maybe that helped shape me to be the person i am that i didnt need to be controlled medicine. Not saying theres anything wrong with it because. You know, people we need some kind of assistance. We need help. But these experiences i live in, like being cut from a football team, you know, growing up, the community that i grew up in with you, my childhood friends, having forced sisters and being the only boy maybe that molded some of the compassion that i have that, you know men are afraid to display or dont display for reasons. But i include all of that because all of these experiences that live like helped create the person that you see standing, sitting here in front of you now, which is weird because it is understanding my ground and im literally sitting on sitting, but its a great picture that as strike but well talk about your upbringing in Mental Health. Did you want to start a national about mental and and specifically theres been a lot of discussions about how Mental Health is not openly in passionately and warmly discussed in the Africanamerican Community among africanamerican men. I mean, who wants to admit that there effed up . You know, so guess thats one of the reasons why the conversation doesnt happen. Yes. I want to have a National Discussion about it, but theres nothing new that be said to encompass the importance of its nothing new. Theres no new phrases or, you know, no new hashtags. We just need more people saying it. More people need to. I guess the, you know, the phrase gets thrown around all the time, normalize this, normalize that. But, you know, more people just its literally a part of our everyday life is a part of our everyday life. So more people just need to be open and you something. But i understand why people are this world is really cruel. You know, people love to kick you while youre down or, you know, a picture of somebody struggling instead of helping that person thinks that thats the world we live in. So its easy to go with the norms that have been happening, and its hard to do the opposite. Go against it. I just dont care. Anybody else thinks thats why i maybe to do the this vulnerability, whatever and its big and vulnerability. You were pretty raw in book in terms of opening up to all the rage, all the things that were coming that you were experiencing just as a result of january six, your childhood all of it. What kind of feedback have you been getting from, not just your friends, but total strangers. And one is anyway said, hey, youve helped me. Youve helped me seek help or anything of that nature. Well, i share a funny story feedback from my father. He read the piece why you cut so. And yes the book, my didnt raise me like that. Correct. But also didnt raise me to deal with an insurrection and Everything Else that followed behind. Yeah. That wasnt in parents. Yeah. That wasnt in a. But you know, i had to share. I really feel and i, you know, pull the curtain back all the. And thats the way i feel. You know im not going to say i say jiminy cricket cricket. Thats not who thats not thats not who i am. You know, im able to articulate my people to say, well, you a lot. You have a limited vocabulary, not a pretty good vocabulary, but sometimes those words just bring home. But no, but yes, ive gotten feedback and i actually got a message from a coworker tuesday night that they saw my message on my interview on the view and this person is no longer with the force because of january, not physically just mostly cant do the job anymore and said that they they struggle getting out of bed every morning and. Seeing me still fight even if by myself just to tell the truth inspire people or it makes it easier for them to get out of. And i respond to them because thats what its all about, you know, i, i was telling meredith the way in here that is your publicist meredith, i got a text from a coworker that at right now and people just want to say that the shooting that happened last night in maine and he just wanted to talk to me about it and how i become this person that you just want to talk about. Before all this, it was just and, you know, new music. But now, you know, just getting that message from people that want to open up about any and everything. And thats its because it lets one lsp know that im not the one that are having these feelings and i guess thats what makes them okay because theyre having these feelings and they like theyre not the only one either. So hmm. Theres part of this. You just raised about reaction in talk about a coworker. What kind of have you received in Law Enforcement community to talk about that and . Because you you talked in a previous conversation as we were prepping that you were speaking before National Organization for black Law Enforcement officers and forth. What is it been mixed, good, bad talk about it is as divide it as this country is it is as divided as this country is on six. There was actually a Police Officer active Police Officer from chicago who got charged and the fop lawyers represented him in court after january six. And obviously, we you know, we kept the Capitol Police had an individual charged with i know exact charges, but he was telling an individual that he agreed with what happened. And, you know you need to delete this off your social media. So yeah, its been but i get messages all the time from coworkers you know, keep it up bro. I dont know how. You do it. Keep going. So its definitely mixed. Has anyone ever you a traitor or betrayal or anything . No. They say im cloud seeking clout. You know, they youre seeking clout and youre doing this because of all the media appearances, every single time that ive gotten awards on tv, all of those acknowledged to my coworkers. So for anybody to say that, thats 100 disingeou wrong becs uplift my coworkers. I dont speak negative about them and i, you know, try to share the spotlight, give them the opportunities that ive been blessed with. But its definitely been mixed, as divided as this country. But has that changed the relationship, say, specifically within the africanamerican, which has a very complicated relationship with the police historically historically . Yeah, i, i did a podcast. Michael, harriet, michael. Harry is unapologetically black and black. Everything, you know. Yeah, yeah. He but he said it from the jump one he would never expect to have a Police Officer on, his podcast and but thats the kind of thats thing we need to have those discussions because living in this divided world you know im not trying to be the unifier. Right. But those kind of discussions need to happen. And they also need to be received with understanding, empathy and compassion, because people talk to each other all they want and they walk away. I hate him. I hate him. And what we talk. Oh, but people need to seek actual understanding for a difference to be made. Another part of the book, you try to lay out a bunch of history nuggets out there. Yeah. What were you trying to do in in sort of planting those historic cold seeds . In short, to say the saying nothing new. This stuffs been happening for years. I mean, at a coming back from the view last night i was talking the driver and thank you for employers of course of course but we were talking about you know, life, liberty, pursuit of and, you know, life and property is what he started with that and that saying had around for a while black people when they say all men are created they were talking about people and all men are created equal. But at that time, black people were considered property, so all men are created equal. Then apply black people at that time, whether know you could splice it up how you would. Thats the actual fact of it. Or women, correct . Yeah. And i talk about that in the book, but this aint nothing new. These are in felt this entitlement. Donald trump still doesnt think he did anything wrong. The people who attacked the cab think they did they didnt do anything wrong. Its their sense of entitlement thats existed because of our history that theyve been in boat and by their history our history. Its not our its all of our history and its still rears its ugly head today. It still exists today. But thats the thats the point of bringing up those historical events that this aint nothing new but but that historical event, those historical events collectively also dip into deeply. And you talk a little bit about the michael harriot discussion into, the issue of race on a number of interviews, you have stated squarely that the january six insurrection was not a act. Im to challenge you on. Okay, why . I dont think that they got together and said, well, let me back up my white coworkers got their up to that. So thats why i dont think it was a racist fueled event. They were racist. There are a lot of them, but i dont think the premise of that, the premise of that day was entitlement and they wanted disenfranchize and say, yo, no yall. When we did yall is lying. Thats what that day was about. Now, a lot of racists believe that, but i dont believe that it was you know, and also time you bring up why are you using the race card and this is just is what it is its a part of our history part of not even its a part of our current thats going on now. So so in the democracy leg of this. Youve written this book now, youve done a bunch of speeches, had a lot of interviews. What do you make of our american democracy. Youre at the press club. You can tell it. And you said the club. Yeah, right. Weve weve been asking people to be honest with for more than 160 years, is is is on life support. I guess right now its keeper a d next the nearby is it really that precarious . I think so, man. I think so i dont see anything that gives me real hope that its not that is that its not, you know, individuals are so so. So what . I dont know. Im trying to find right word is this sucks, you know you know in a were in a bad place now and people lost hope and people just dont really care anymore. A lot of people. I mean, just look whats going on in the house of representatives right now is, you know, just elected to speaker and look how long who without one in instead of working together to fight but you put your life on the line every day when you wear that uniform and particular rally on the 6th of january 20, 21 and the insurrection ultimately, we failed. So dont you have it . Individuals, its not these institutions thats going to hold up as individ fuels that occupy these institutes since like, who would have thought you have to give a president United States an ethics briefing. I, i mean, the individuals are people and do you know that the speaker of the house can be any joe the street. Yeah. It does not have to be it you know you dont have to be a member of congress to be the speaker of the house if, if you will. I wanted to run for speaker if got 200 that you win the speakership. Its insane. So what did you what did you actually what do you think of the the the thought that was out there that that House Republicans might have the idea of bringing in former President Trump as speaker. So im saying these thats the point that im trying to make. I think im trying to make i dont know. Im not making it the institution its run by these people. Were only strong as these individuals. We are a nation of institutions that are run by the people. Which begs the question, how do you turn it around . I dont know. I know. Like, thats the thing. These ideologies that exist and how do you defeat an ideology like i said, if donald trump goes to jail. Sure ill be happy. A great but then then what his dont go away. The idea that maga doesnt disappear, its still until the next person comes up and then is the next trump. I dont know how defeat an ideology the best disinfectant is truth and we say that around here all time and i dont know what im doing. I hope it works and im not. Like i said, im not trying to be this great uniter or but if i inspire somebody, that person inspires somebody and, you know, you youve done a lot in this time, even before you wrote the book, since january six, you testified a congressional committee. You talk in the book all the harassment, all the pain, all the everything you talk about how daughter talk about that for a moment. What are you doing. All this doing out there doing . I have a full time. Yes, yes, a full time. Yeah. Full out on top of the thing. On top of your day job. I got a full time job protecting members of congress. Its so funny that they tried to. They tried. Nope. Heres got to work. Cant do it. But you talk about in the book that youre defending some of the very same members who are denying what happened. How do you deal with struggle with that . Why do you i mean all of this . Why go back . Why put the batch back on . Because the institutions collapsed. I leave other people leave, everybody leave. These institutions start collapsing. So is this moment where you have a bigger than yourself kind of moment . I can if i toughing it out, i dont like it at all. But these institutions depend on it and im not myself being this all great one individual. But you know, a group together, you know, come together and you make it strong so. It sounds a superhero ish but the country is depending on me you know right well you know there a lot of famous athletes that say they would carry their teams on their back. Then, you feel the same way. No, i, i, im not doing it alone. Its a lot of people its a lot of harry dunns out there maybe that arent you dont know my they dont know their faces but know the men and women that i work with. Im sure, they hate it but theres a part of my question you touch. Go ahead which one. I dont, i dont know the impact of the impact on your family. Daughter oh, yeah. Daphne oh, okay. So really she was she scrolling after, after my tv appearances, my launch day, she, she texted me and i told her daddy. So she talking you like my hair. She just got her hair braided as she did. Shed say nothing about tv, never. Yes, baby, you look beautiful. Know . You see, you know, i. Shes a shy, kind girl. But except for winter, like her dads around. I guess shes, you know, she warms up, but shes a little shy, so im all this stuff. Are you going into in the in the white house . We got to go to the oval office. And shes standing there like and then finally she went Vice President harris gave her the white house, eminem and, the cookies. Now we talking, now we talk. Now she was okay. We had the white house always. The good is the cool and the adults definite. I open yeah i oh well i to do one thing before we start shifting our questions i want to ask one question is was it worth it. Yeah. You know question no, absolutely it is worth it. You know, i, i received lot of pushback. I dont talk much about it, but i even professionally i suffered a little bit and ill just leave it at that public. Ill leave it at that. But without a doubt, i would do it all over again. Without a doubt. Got some questions. I think theyre coming. The people are looking for events, cecily. I think there are people are looking for pens. So so ill grab a couple of them. And see first one. I was out of the count first one. Iry was out of the country whe january 6th happened. What would you want people from other countries, cant read all the writing, to learn about that day and how the us needed to move forward from it. Okay. I met the team of astronauts from nasa who were the only people that on january 6th who were alive on january 6th the werent on the earth. He was like i was watching you from space. Ke coolol to meet people who were alive on january 62 werent on earth. To answer the question. I just thought that was but other countries, people from other countries, i will always call it twitter, not x. They are in disbelief this is happening because the us is looked at as a world power. Maybe thats our own arrogance, a world leader, and think about it like your parenting. Fighting with two married couples fighting in front of their kids. The us is going through this big messy divorce in front of everybody when people are supposed to be looking up to us. And it is depressing but other countries. I wouldnt look up to us as being the world leader, but look at canada last summer, the truckers convoy, this stuff is going on and the whole thing with brexit. Other countries, this isnt a us specific problem we are dealing with. There are global issues. I dont know how to fix it here, dont know how to fix it over there but people standing up for whats right and stand their ground. Stand their ground. It is worth it. I encourage people to tell your truth and tell your stories, dont be down by the back lash you get because more people support you than you know. I look good. 10 people, one person says the other nine go you fly, you look great, but you focus on that one individual and we forget about the other 9 that just validated what we are doing and beat ourselves up. Im allll over that with that answer because i dont know what the answer is. I want to go back to that answer, how did january 6th change you . Specifically, your faith or trust in humanity . Two parts of that. We will take how it changed. Before january 6th i believed in public service. My father, military veteran, and i believe in public service, but now, that was prejanuary 6th. After january 6th i feel like it c is a duty now, not just f calling in the right thing to do but i have to do it. Carrying on my back which i have to do it. Even though i dont want to do it anymore i have 2. That is the way i dont like it. I used to like being a Police Officer but now i dont like it at all because of d the things that were exposed that day. It makes me want to run away from the challenge. But also personally after that, i used to be this big old extroverted person. Now im this introverted shell of my former self which im working my way back. I will go out and large crowds bother me now. Ive always been vigilant, watching my back but now even around friendly people, my friends, got to get out of here. This isnt good. Sounds like ptsd. Talk about that. Its rough because i hate it. Sometimes i go to my truck and just sit there. Take a deep breath, tears streaming down my face, then i get it all back together and get it together and try to go back to my former self. Im working on it. Im a lot better than what i was but i still struggle at times. It is not fun. It is not fun at all. Sounds like an advertisement for therapy. My parents put me in therapy when i was a kid. Sometimes it can be fun, they can be i hate this. Sometimes you walk out of there, crap. You dont when you live with it but you dont live with it bottled up inside of you. One thing i will say about therapy, going to therapy doesnt shield you from lifes traumas and experiences. What it will do is give you the tools how to process it and attack everything which life is still going to suck. L host you hit on the head about you dont like your gig. What in the wake of all of your appearances, the hearings and everything, has anything been done to help the more row of Law Enforcement . You madewh me think of anotr reason, people say we need people like you. We need more people like you. That resonates with me. What do i want to do . I want to inspire people. I want to show that resiliency. When you quit, thats what they want you to do, they win. They win. So im like i am staying in this fight, a little bit of stubbornness. Im right, you are wrong, you leave, you leave. Going back what were you asking me . My point was more important. That is why whether or not more row morale of Law Enforcement. Thats not an institution question. If you look across the country finding people to do public service, in the military people argument ridiculous hiring bonuses. I think that w is one of the reasons we have the issues we have with policing today, people are not doing it for the right reasons. 20,000 in somebody who is struggling, i will take it, become a cop and dont even know why they signed up for it. Thats one of the reasons. That is a National Humanitarian problem. The morale issue is not long hours, people hate the police. For the right reasons sometimes, but that is nothing that can be fixed with take an extra day off. It helps, but it is a bigger conversation to be had. Speaking this is interesting. Has any member of congress who denied the election, supported the insurrection verbally or in writing or whatever apologized to you . I didnt get any apologies but i did get messages. Former congressman now, on january 6th, Trump Supporters on january 6th in the rotunda after everything, the chaos gave me this big hug. Embraced and crying, Trump Supporters, to see him afterwords with his maga hat on, that was heartening but i did get little joy that he lost his reelection. But you were in tears. I was too. We were grown men embracing each other in the rotunda with tears coming down our faces. He didnt backtrack on anything. That hurt me but i didnt get necessarily apologies but peter mayor from illinois, he never denied it but he supported officers and me personally, liz cheney also. I disagree with her fundamentally on everything, standing up for that. Im appreciative of her. Kinzer your and i, havent gotten any apologies but there are people who see how bad we are and appreciate what im doing. Instead of running for congress or any you want me to go through that . No, no, no, no. I have definitely thought about the idea of running for office. That would be a lot on your plate. Not now. I dont know if i could handle it. Im still struggling with this role that i have here. I dont know. I have toyed with the idea but i dont know if i could handle it. Wo it would be great to represent more people. I dont know if i could do it. In that moment you keep coming back to this that it seems like january 6th stole something from you. Enjoy. The joy of doing i dont want to do all this stuff. I want to cancel media appearances, this and that, but it is important to do it. The joy of being a Police Officer. It is a duty now. I have to do this. An i dont want to anymore. I have 2. The sense of vulnerability, opening yourself up. One question, how much do you feel the cultural restriction on mens vulnerability, we touched on that earlier. The anger that led to the insurrection. Say that again . How much do you feel, thank you for your service, how much do you feel that the cultural restriction on mens vulnerability fostered the anger that led to the insurrection . S thats a good question. I am thinking about it. I never even thought about it like that. To read it again . Free to go. See, that is a good question but i dont think that is a good question. For people that were there on january 6th were there because of lies but they wanted to believe those lives. Like going to a doctor, and they get a second opinion. Get a second opinion, fourth opinion until you find somebody that tells you what you want to hear. They seek out each other. Everybody is there, related in ideas. This is a good question. It is making me think now. Having to answer questions in the spotlight. I dont know. I dont know. I like having conversations. If i was in charge i would ask you c what you think and then would listen and come back to the answerer but i dont know because so much cultural restriction that is huge there, then anger, that is a really good question. I would love to think about it. I would love to. Well, if donald trump is nominated again and beats president biden, would you see another insurrection or other entitlement fueled issue happening . Not by the left. We have common sense. But yeah. Of course. My mission to seek out accountability, accountability is to prevent people from doing things again. Until we have that which we to stop yet, what is it from happening again . Donald trump thinks what he did was right. He doesnt think he did anything wrong. If you still have that mindset it absolutely can happen again. Is that hopeless . Yes. Because i think about this. We could go back at my alma mater, a generation of College Students lets talk about the notion, ideology of how to challenge the notion that the culture of propaganda, how do you challenge that ideology . It has been around forever. How do you challenge it to the point that at least its on the wrong side of being the dominant thread thats running through the incidents you took off a little while ago. Think about what happened with covid, covid deniers, election deniers, people who have movements that are based on lies. You use metaphors, this and came to be. Think of this as a game of tugofwar. The collapse, the demise is right here, both sides pulling. No side is going to stop pulling, you stop pulling, it is over, you are done. Once you start pulling your going to fall in that whole lodz we need more people to get on the backd of that rope, joi in and keep pooling till they lose. Thats the only way to do it. Thats the only way. We just need more people doing what is right and think about it like that. Is a game of tugofwar. They are getting traction right now. W. That is why these election cycles are so important. Every measures so important, people on the back of that ropelike on january 6th, there wasnt some magic smoke bomb we through to make people leave the capital. We got control when more people showed up. We got reinforcements. The capital was cleared when we got help. It wasnt some magical stun gun or smoke grenade or verbal command that we use. More people showed up and the good guy won. Thats the way i look at it. More people got to show up and the good guys will win. That was pretty good, wasnt it . The larger question detail you touched on as well. The fact that you and your fellow officers felt unprotected, felt like somebody either forgot or deliberately didnt get you guys ready . Has been there been reform in your few since then . Now that youve had all this testimony with you and your fellow officers that exposed the fact that you got that hanging out there . One of the arguments from the extreme right is nancy pelosi is in charge and she did the failure and i always said that anybody, anybody, not free from being nobody. Anybody who had anything to do with the failures of that day need to be held accountable and if that was nancy pelosi, i dont think it was i havent seen anything that says that but if it was her she needs to be held accountable period. But this is some madeup thing in their head. It makes me so angry because the people that were there on january 6th, the reason i feel so comfortable attacking donald trump in the manner that i do i heard what he said and the people that were there told us they were there because donald trump told them to come their. To come there. I heard that, they said that, donald trump said it, so i dont mind, im not going to be mad at adt because joe broke in my house and let joe get a pass. You are the one who did it. To answer your question, just a regular frontline every day officer, im not privy to the conversation about future planning but there have been we do take more precautions and weve made improvements and i dont know if they are insurrection ready, i dont know but we have evolved. Another question. What havent you been asked and all your public opportunities to talk about all this that you want everyone to know. Whats been left unsaid . I say when i what to, what i think is important. All these questions were there. You didnt ask me stuff. Im telling my truth and my story and i dont think theres anything, maybe i havent thought of it yet but everything i wanted to say i have. That i could say. I am still unemployed member of the federal government so i told that line carefully. That is big. Imagine if i wasnt in this fight with one arm tied behind my back. The clock is ticking down. Part of our format is before we get to the last question we are going to talk about Upcoming Events before our captive audience. At the National Press club on friday. November 3rd we invite you to join Associated Press videographer and director chernoff for screening of the documentary 20 days and marable followed by discussions and also coming up monday, november 6th, Veterans Affairs secretary Dennis Mcdonough who will speakoo at National Press club learners function. You can look at the complete calendar at press. Org. In a bit of tradition, we usually give to our headliners, we walked through the halls, youve seen the president , the prime ministers, your picture is going up. So beforeth we came out here, signed like the rest of them, the astronauts and everybody else. We give the National Press club mugs. This mug, as simple as it seems is a healthy reminder of the fellowship of the experience, and donald trump i dont want it. Thank you. We consider ourselves the great container. H we bring all points of view here and thank you for coming here but before that. We have one last question in terms of the road not taken. If you did manage to become that nfl player that you talk about in the book. What team would you play for . Thats a good one. Im living vicariously through my cousin now who was drafted by the cleveland browns. Backup quarterback. Another hero from that day, good to see you. He has a book coming out november 7th. Good to see you. A city that is boring that keeps me out of trouble. I recommend pittsburgh. There you go. I am i dont like the commanders because they are good. I like them because they are the hometown team. They are not good. I represent them. The same playa. Magic make that call . Be there in a heartbeat. I dont know. The raiders, that was the first jacket that i had as a kid and the black and silver, the only reason for that. The terrible towel. I love talking to those. Anyway. We would like to once again thank our headliners team. Lori russo, Club Team Members who helped put this together, tremendous staff help from our events and programs, coordinators, scott martin, getting all your questions, culinary building staff and current elected Club President Eileen Oreilly of actios and 3000 members of the national