Transcripts For CSPAN2 Senate Sergeant At Arms No Intent To Impede Media Access To Lawmakers 20170711

Good morning, everyone. Subcommittee will come to order. This is our third fiscal year 2018 Budget Committee hear forking the legislative branch of appropriation subcommittee, we have with us today the honorable frank larkun, Senate Sergeant at arms and chief mendoza. Welcome, chief, first subcommittee hearing before the subcommittee. We will try to make it as painful as we possibly can. [laughter] for hearing was planned for june the 14th, same morning a man decided he was going to open fire in alexandria, virginia, Capitol Police officer, cristal griener and protective detail for majority and because of heroism there were no fatalities and there could have been many lives lost. We are grateful for their courage and wish them full recoveries and we thank those who were involved in their support and training. Scalise has been upgraded to fair condition and my understanding is that matt was discharged and sent home. Our thoughts and prayers on those in the field that morning. The entire Congressional Community was deeply affected by the shooting. We realize that there could have been any of us practing that day and any of us targeted at any spot. Senate sergeant at arms have both unique missions, now more than ever they carry significant importance both threats internal and external in the environment in which we operate, both agencies were diliglantly to protect members of congress and our staff and 4 million visitors to Capitol Campus each year. This is an office space, this is a museum, this is a tourist spot all at once and try to be able to manage all those realities requires own delicate task, truly appreciate the dedication of men and women that enable congress to do its work and we do thank you for that. As i have mentioned in first two hearings this year we are faced with a budget environment that would require difficult and important discussion on how we move forward in the upcoming fiscal year. Value gain from your request your requested increases must be weighed against our duty to be fiscally responsible and make wider choices and we look forward any input to make those choices. 204. 6million, increase of approximately 7. 2 million above fiscal year 2017 and acted level. 73. 1billion for salaries and benefits and request of 131. 6 million for expenses. The majority of the requested increases supports cybersecurity initiatives to protect against internal and external threats alike. The nature of these involving intrusions have received attention and scrutiny rightfully so and important to take the necessary steps to prevent the compromise of senate networks capitol request 426 million, increase of 33. 3 million above fiscal year 2016 enacted level, 351 million is for salaries and benefits to cover fixed costs increases to pay existing staff and additional 72 sworn officers and 48 civilians or total force of 943 sworn officers and you can check me on those numbers to make sure i get that correctly. The request for expenses at can is 75. 2 billion, increase of 7 million above fiscal year 2017 and life cycle reflection of detention and screening equipment as well as training and uniforms for officers. Much of your requested increase comes from expanding Mission Requirements and look forward to hearing those needs and Additional Needs as you have identified given the recent incident. I would like to turn to Ranking Member senator murphy for any remarks he would like to make. Thank you very much. I would like to welcome our witnesses today. I want to join senator lankford and expressing attitude on the ball field in alexandria as a member of the democratic baseball team, this is one of the these events that represents what is right with washington despite a lot of things that are wrong with this case and let me again send my best to special agent cristal and david bailey and henry ca brotherra. We are so thankful for their skilled response to the training that you provided them, great news to hear that special agent greiner is now out of the hospital as well, we provide our thoughts to congressman scalise, matt mica, on the sub commit yes we are in a special unique position to make sure the Capitol Police and sergeant at arms have the resources they need to help to keep us safe. Chief verderosa will require security in grounds and i look forward discussing how we might provide targeted increases to make adjustments to the array of growing threats. Mr. Larkin, cyberattacks to russian hacking, cyberspace is the modern battlefield and that makes it more critical that the senates it Security Systems and frankly all of the ways in which members interact with technology that are protections are robust an resilient given the threats, finally, mr. Chairman, i want to note that the legislative branch is not exempt from the larger budget debate. Our bill funds not only security focus organization but also other critical agencies to our work including our watchdog gao, just like when you parity and common sense appropriations bill and we need parity in the budget deal for fiscal year 2018. So that includes fully supporting your asian yecion but making sure that other priorities that are vital to our work are protected in our bill. This is a really important hearing to have. We look forward to talking to you in open session and them being able to have a private conversation as well, i look forward to your testimony. Thank you. I do want to remind any member that is come in as well and we will continue to do that as well that we will move to a close session immediately following the open portion of this hearing and all of our relevant Security Issues we will deal in the close session and i would also like to request of those giving testimony today that we will reserve some of the more sensitive security items for that close session as well and we can have a frank discussion at that spot. Mr. Larkin, honorable to receive your testimony at this time. Mr. Chairman, senator murphy, thank you, again, its always a pleasure to appear before this committee and offer some thoughts. I would request that the committee accept my formal system for the record that captures the breath and depth of the challenges and the tasks accomplished by the Senate Sergeant at arms in the past year with measures to perform and Operational Impact that we have been able to achieve. Without objection, glad to be receive both of your written statements as well and for the record. Mr. Chairman, as you called out the budget request is for modest increase of 3. 7 , again, a lot of that is due to the costs of living but yet increases allied primarily to Cyber Defense and we can get into that more indepth. The ssa is a large Diverse Organization and multifaceted, backstops all part of the Senate Institution and with a large regard to do legislative branch as a whole. Our goal is to ensure safe and secure environment free of distractions for members to do the nations business and im able to accomplish that by the talented leadership that i have behind me right now. Jim, my deputy, katrina sims executive assistant and fortified by my assistant sergeant at arms for protective operations and continuity programs. Vickie, cio. Dave bass, terrence lili, keeps me out of the drink more times than not. The sergeant at arms is responsible for the safety and security of the senate as you pointed out. Emergency preparedness and continuity operations, Information Technology and telecommunication support, access control, transportation of parking, printing and graphics, facilities main nant, maintenance, furnishings of office, employee assistance, contracting and finance support, training and Education Senate pages and intern programs and photo studio and finally hair care. Again, its a Diverse Organization. A lot of responsibility, a lot of moving parts. The silent team of highly competentes behind me and before the hearing work behind the scenes every day for this institution. I have folks on the job from one week to over 40 years. Quite a legacy of Service Within our organization for this for the senate. Theyre innovative and constantly learning, forwardleaning and responsive and very much customer focus. We are the problem solvers for the senate. We work in Close Partnership with the secretary of the Senate Julie Adams and her deputy mary jones, our two organizations have committed themselves to a nonpartisan support of the senate and our organizations are seemless in the way we backstop the institution and, again, to minimize the distractions on members and staff so, again, we can do the legislative business in the nation. We also work closely with our legislative branch partners, the house sergeant at arms paul irving, the chief Administrative Officer phil specifically as we join forces with our it initiatives and Cyber Defense, the architect of the capital, very important partner and to my left chief verderosa supported by his assistant steve, the chief leads an exemplary force of men and women dedicate today protecting the legislative branch as evident not only on a daily basis as we move about the campus but certainly highlighted two weeks ago as you mentioned mr. Chairman, by the heroic acts of bravery by two u. S. Cp officers on the alexandria ball field. The two Priority Areas for me are fiscal security and safety of the senate and legislative branch followed by cyber. Again, as you pointed out, the Digital Domain is one that is persistent, it requires our constant attention and i will get into that in more depth later. We are in a dynamic threat environment, the shooting two weeks ago perpetrated by a lone assailant highlight it is potential for threats off campus and in member home districts. Actor shooter threats to have campus are a main concern for both chief verderosa and i and persistent efforts to protect data and privacy is very high on our radar. Subject to do and has caused significant disruption. Finally we can take our eye off the Insider Threat. Again its the reality of todays environment and yet we are to Pay Attention to it. We have a proactive forward leading postured to detect and deter and disrupt threats before any attacks. Thats again where we are putting a lot of our wait. Rapid response and assessment of Critical Incidents early containment and mitigation is key. We achieve that threa to active engagements with the Law Enforcement partners and our Intelligence Community partners. Its key that we are strong relationships that we engage in joint training, we validate Interoperable Communications for crisis management. We do effective Event Planning and coordination, and we use our resources to get the biggest bang for the buck. We always need to question our facts and assumptions when were looking at this complex nature of this campus and our ability to protect it and secure it. We are always looking for efficiencies, innovative ways to become more effective with our resources. I think the chief would agree with me, goldline defense does not work in this dynamically challenging and changing environment. We have to lean forward we have to be proactive. Ultimately its about guaranteeing legislative Branch Operations and uninterrupted legislative processes. That concludes my opening remarks, subject to your questions. Chief verderosa . Chairman lankford, Ranking Member murphy and members of the committee am honored to be here today and i appreciate the opportunity to present the United States Capitol Police budget request for fiscal year 2018. Unjointed today by some members of my executive team and executive Management Team including the chief of operations, assistant chief, chief Administrative Officer richard braddock, chief Financial Officer j miller, general counsel gretchen, and inspector general. Also in attendance today is the uscp fop labor chairman who heads are sworn union. Id like to thank the committee for its generous and unwavering support of United States Capitol Police and providing the necessary funding and support our personal and operations. As weve seen over the past so t must our officers are well prepared and highly trained to do with any circumstances they may encounter. What first paper to be routine main fact be a threat to the safety and wellbeing of the capitol complex for members of congress. This is exemplified with incident on june 14 in alexandria, virginia. Extensive training and Quick Response by special agents crystal griner and david bailey saved lives. Like to commend them publicly for the heroic and professional response protecting the members of congress and senators and others that day during the practice session for the Congressional Charity baseball game. We have often discussed the Department Needs remain agile while also tuning to enhance our capabilities and i believe that in the vibrant and which we operate it will be necessary to provide increased coverage for member events going forward. In doing so we appreciate the congress can can support of our mission and its recognition of eight to provide Additional Resources as we identify new and increasing threats. Accordingly we develop our fiscal year 2018 budget request of 426 . 6 million with a focus on continuing to equip and train and prepare our work force to protect protect unites States Capital and the congress to ensure the remain safe and secure. Due to the global threat environment and the terrorist attacks, the type visitors organizations targeting attacks the public venues weve worked in close coronation with the Capitol Police board and chairman black and of the board to determine that additional screening and various means must be employed to continue to keep the capitol complex safe. As a result our fiscal year 2018 request includes funding for an additional 72 sworn officers and 48 civilians for the purpose of adding prescreening capabilities and civilianizing certain swear position as part of a multiyour plan to bolster the overall security of the capitol complex as well as enhancing and completing the house garage security effort. Lastly our request also addresses investment in training, recruiting and outfitting new employees replacing key equipment and systems that have become obsolete and restoring annual levels reduced in previous fiscal used to beat the vital Department Needs. Our commitment to the mission and are steadfast dedication to ensuring the safety and security of members, staff and millions of visitors who come to the United States capitol is our top priority. This would be possible without the dedicated men and women in the department. I continue to be impressed with their overall performance, professionals everyday. Im very proud of the troops enter here and it would understand their mission. We will continue to work closely with you to ensure we meet the needs and expectations of the congress as well as our mission in a reasonable and responsible manner. Once again thank you for the opportunity to appear here today before you, and i would be pleased to answer any questions you may have. Thank you both for that. Chief verderosa, let me start with you. Have a brief time of question fully moved to a closed session. You made a request for 72 additional sworn officers. That would bring the force of 1943 total officers. Can you talk briefly about why the request is needed and the Additional Task if there are additional locations and such that you made to be able to provide covered for . Certainly. The request with additional personnel is a very specific to specific tasking that will close the loop on some vulnerabilities that have been existing for a number of years on the house side. I look at policing and security of the campus in a totality. So its not so much specifically where were just pushing people to the house side. This completes our perimeter and this provides a level of security that would leave is necessary to finish something that has been started over the past fiscal years. You also make some request on nonsworn officers for civilian positions. Tell me the balancing that youre trying to accomplish. Absolutely, sir. The 48 civilian billets would be for the purpose of taking our, specifically our command center communications, firearms instructors and theres one or two other positions that are currently occupied by sworn personnel, and traditionally have focused on sworn presence. Thats not to say that civilians cannot do those, perform those tasks. I asking for the civilians we can more quickly place though sworn officers that are being displaced back into the field where we get a quicker turnaround as opposed to hiring new civilians. New civilians takes time to select, train and then deploy, which takes basically about a year to do so. By doing it to civilianization of really the final aspects come added to consider them operational officers that are in these positions, but they have traditionally in position out of the field. We can get more utility from his officers faster by civilianizing as opposed to hiring 48 new officers. Fair enough. Mr. Larkin, we talked a lot about cybersecurity and more about in a closed session as well. The British Parliament just had a hacking experience for them where there were quite a few different addresses that ended up being packed they are working to the processes of those individual and such. As you look at this into preparations, where do you think our level of preparedness is and what needs to be done generally . And we can talk more specifics in a closed session. Mr. Chairman, the fact of the matter is that we are in a constant blocking and tackling drill. This is a knife fight that is not going to end anytime soon. As you have alluded, there are incidents around the world and certainly here within the United States that highlighted everyday. This institution is not immune from that. We work very hard. We have a capability that i would say is very good. We are constantly looking at our capabilities and our line of defense as far as dealing with this threat. And also our ability to respond to an incident once we detect it. And that is key. Our ability to quickly identify an abnormality and then to contain it and effectively repair it is key to minimizing the damage potentially that could come from an attack that successfully penetrate our network. I will say that our efforts require the support of this committee, because much of our technology and capability comes with a price. Its, again, as senator murphy alluded to, its whats that balance point, how are we applying the commonsense rule against the real work threats, and are we in the right place . Thats a discussion that needs to be iterative between not only my organization but this committee, and that is of comfort is achieved that we are protecting data, privacy and other factors associate with our Digital Domain. So the process management and innovation. There is a request of 1. 6 million for that. Tell me a little more about that office. Again we are always looking come were partnering with industry and we have to come in addition to other Government Agencies that are challenged by this threat. Its so that we can see the latest technologies and capabilities that are being designed, developed and put into motion to deal with this threat. This particular unit is looking out ahead to the next ridgeline, over the next ridgeline anticipating the inbound technologies potentially could help us so that we can have a degree of planning and Situational Awareness of what we potentially could leverage in order to again raise that confidence by that were defending our networks the best way we can. Thank you. Senator murphy. Thank you very much, mr. Chairman. Mr. Larkin, can you talk a bit about developing capacities to protect from internal threats with respect to Cyber Protection . This is obviously an increasing concern. Theres history of some of these problems occurring within the senate itself. We can talk more about this in close session, but toggl talk ae bit about your focus on internal threats and making sure that offices are protected from individuals who may have found a way inside to take information from servers that are shared. Senator murphy, i welcome that question because it is, its a little bit of a thorny subject when we talk about Insider Threats come special an institution like this where you have 99. 9 of the folks at work and support this institution absolute committed to its success. But i think wed be putting our head in the sand if we did not posture ourselves to look for Insider Threats, especially with history of Insider Threat and the damage is done to other organizations within our government, let alone the public and private sector arenas. We are incorporating capabilities that come one, are not only policybased but are also softwarebased or policybased in the sense of who was access to sensitive information, visit appropriate access . That can be achieved not only through authorities but also to sophisticated levels of credentialing. The ability to monitor who was operating within a particular data area, is it appropriate to ask are the harvesting data inappropriately . Are the moving data to replace that shouldnt, that data should be making a transit . There are a number of ways that we can be alerted to inappropriate behavior. The other piece of this is also a very deep and i think focused training and education efforts that we have been undertaking and currently, you know, continue to push with member offices in training their staffs. And again, being alert to individuals who may have a temporary presence in their office, who just average of the fact that theyre working there for the summer for a short period of time make access to, you know, that offices system and subsequently to the senate system, is there access appropriate . Are we betting these folks a properly . I would just, you know, and again without interfering with privacy and certainly writes of a particular individual, are we alerting for instance, my agency and others when we sense and something is not right. That is a lot of what we, the conversation were having with individual offices that very often system administrators, the chief of staff and so forth will be approached and they will say ive got an issue here, im not sure what i have, can you help me out with it. And very often that starts us down a path of confirming or denying whether they have a problem. Thank you for that answer and your focus on the issue. Chief verderosa, wanted to ask a question that maybe a little outofthebox or in the 21st century act which is a piece of legislation we passed at the end of last year we included support for something called crisis intervention teams which are communitybased policing model designed to really understand the challenges that individuals with Mental Illness pose to Law Enforcement. In the unique ways in which to respond to that threat which often is not the immediate deployment of physical force. Have you come here asking for a lot of new money on training, very appropriate but can you talk a little bit about how you approach this new model that a lot of different departments are deploying to have individuals with Mental Illness who may present a threat . Absolutely, sir. We do subscribe to crisis intervention team, the concept. We attend the matter told Police Crisis intervention program, a 40 hour program. Weve been involved since 2014. A were very proactive they were very proactive in this area refill there is great value. The metropolitan police has parted with the d. C. Department of Behavioral Health to develop this and a space on the memphis model where you really do have community engagement, and we go and look at resources that are available with the goal of trying to divert whenever possible and get appropriate services that are available for people suffering from mental health. Obviously theres great risk when theres a confrontation or an interface with Law Enforcement. The goal is to want, be able to identify the need of the individuals and together to provide them with the most appropriate services, if the charges are appropriate. There are also things that we can do that enable us to come even within the criminal justice system, ensure that the needs are met, the safety is insured, the individuals we face out on the street. This training does safeguard the officers, it provides them with knowledge to be able to better understand the types of threats and understand the people were dealing with, provides them with essential skills. It also helps protect the community and enhance commit leverages the core social services that are available in the community. To date we have got, by the end of this calendar year we should have about 75 officers that will be trained. We look in the future to be able to institute that program inhouse as opposed to partnering. However, we partner quite often with our partner Law Enforcement agencies to leverage of the training ability to various thes aspects of different kinds of training. Obviously, we are not counselors but we can verbally deescalate situations with the person who is in need. We can determine emergency hospitalization. We work very closely with the comprehensive Emergency Psychiatric Program here in d. C. , which is for both involuntary and voluntary commitments. Its all in the interest of protecting not only the officers but protecting the individuals. So we are very wellversed. I thank you for your commitment to that. One last question. You have the unique array of challenges presented to you right now. There are a lot of people on this campus. Just yesterday there were it seemed a dozen different protest never happening in different places throughout. People are very engaged in the democratic process and so youve got a lot of people who want to be in our space. But as you know many of us were alarmed when a few weeks ago there was a directive sent out to press inside these buildings, that they were no longer able to film interactions with members of the city. And so i pose as maybe to mr. Larkin, either one of you can answer it. Can you walk us through what led to that directive being handed down, and what the current disposition is today . My understanding is that there is a change in policy, that potential press credential press are allowed to film interactions with members of congress as have traditionally been allowed to do but can you walk us through how we got to the policy and will be our today . Center, as you know that some of the political issues senator, as you know that some of the political issues that are front stage here on this campus and certainly in the eyes of the nation have generated an increased level of attention from the media. Not surprising. However, that has resulted in a level of congestion at times in our hallways and stairways that, again, pose primarily a safety risk. We in coronation with the rules committee who set those standards, they actually developed the right left boundaries for media behavior and whats allowed and not allowed in this institution. And then we assist with maintaining a degree of order. As we saw the hallways being congested, as with all members being overwhelmed by media, we saw two i can control that we sought to control it from a primary safety perspective, not to interfere with media access to i think that was mischaracterized. But in the end with approached the various media galleries and asked for their assistance. We would really like them to take care of this problem. Understand the challenges that we have here. We are not again trying to get iin the way of what theyre trying to do, but yet help us kind of police yourselves with some organization and some respect for not only the pathways that we have, whether its the main capital or here in the office buildings, but certainly in regard to the approaching members. At times we that members that have been impeded from getting to their destination because of the level of congestion, and certainly the degree of pursuit that they have experienced. Again, were trying to find that balance point. This is something that kind of got out of hand temporarily, but quickly i think sought a kind of a new level of composure once were able to have a dialogue with the right folks. But again i think the media can help us out with this. But just to confirm, the policy has not changed. It is not changed. What he did was revise they basically went back to the existing policies and the rules committee chose to eliminate them. Thank you. Thank you very much, mr. Chairman. Senator kennedy. Gentleman, i think i have maybe one or two questions. I wanted to thank you both for your service. Mr. Larkin, wanted to ask you about immediat the media direct. What did the original directive say . You indicated there was some confusion about it. I believe the initial incident was regarding camera locations. That there was a camera team that was in an inappropriate location. And honestly as i looked at it, i think that there was, over the years and with a change of personnel, not only on the media side but other parts of this institution, kind of got away from what the rule was. Sure. And so when this particular incident involving a camera crew in the wrong place was observed, and it can assess and other things in motion. What im asking is, did the original directive prohibit cameras . Yeah, cameras were prohibited in certain areas, and this particular camera team was not supposed to be in the area. That they were in. Okay. What areas were camera teams prohibited from, do you recall . Without getting into the specifics, i mean, there are pages and pages of rule guidance that diagram this out. And again i would at this point just to be guessing will. Will come rises again, i understand you to go to the rules committee, i would certainly like to know. And i think we would have to be, as you express, i think we have to be very careful here. Because i think the message that the public received was that the media with cameras could no longer access the peoples representatives, and i dont think thats what any of us want. And i think there was a lot of confusion about it, but i would certainly like to know within the rules it another directive like that is being considered, im not on the rules committee but i would sure like to have some advanced learning and offer some input. I just didnt think it was very cool, is what im trying to suggest to you. I know its not your call and i am well aware that, frank. But we just need to be real careful here. Odyssey, my opinion, i think it goes to communications. And getting everybody in the same place sing the same thing and understanding what you know what the rules are. And again i think that we can come to that balance point, but again, theres no intent to compete them from access to members or anything else. Again, we will work hard on in making sure that doesnt happen again. I know you will but i want to thank you and the chief for your good work, especially your colleagues, too. Thank you, senator. Senator van hollen. Thank you, mr. Chairman thank you and Ranking Member murphy, and thank both of you, first of all, for your service, thank you for what you do to protect our capital, make it as a visit can be, consistent with the need to have a place thats open for the capital of democracy. And i also want to join my colleagues in extending our gratitude to special agents crystal griner and bailey for saving lives, and your entire teams. I had a question on cybersecurity as well but im going to defer that, edison would maybe we do take take that up any more confidential setting. But i have a question for you, chief verderosa. Last year the gao published a report on the department of Homeland Security is office of National Capital region coordination, and the recommended that they strengthen their coordination capabilities through the restructuring of the joint federal committee. And specified the roles and responsibilities of all the participating agencies, how they can best work together. Department of Homeland Security accepted the gao recommendations. My question to you and you as well, mr. Larkin, if relevant, is given the fact the Capitol Police and the sergeant at arms are part of that security system, the field that those provisions as gao recommendations are being implemented . Do you feel youre being properly included as part of the team . How are the lines of communications . What is your assessment . We have a very robust communication with all of our partners in the National Capital region, specifically some members of dhs, dhs central, we are in their communication link. We work very closely particularly with a largescale events, National Security events, and, frankly, and i say this to my partners all the time, in the 32 plus years that ive been a Law Enforcement ive never seen better coordination between all entities, particularly are really close partners, secret service, fbi, service being part of dhs. But we get tremendous support, information sharing is as good as ive ever seen, intelligence sharing, both classified and unclassified information. I applaud the efforts of our partners in reaching out to us with information. We have a very active threat assessment investigations division, and i would say that we are equal partners with all of them. So im very pleased with our ability to work closely, communicate with and share information with our dhs partners. I will certainly differ to mr. Larkin. And i agree with that. I will highlight two recent incidents. What is the shooting a couple weeks ago where chief verderosa and i got on the scene very quickly, interactive with the other leadership from the departments involved, the fbi, atf, the other responder resources. We all knew each other. We already had that connective tissue, you know, in place. It was about focusing what was important and we were very quickly able to prioritize how we move forward in handling that incident. Because we had no time in the National Capital region with everything that we challenge with to deal with egos, to deal with people wanting to hold onto information and so forth, that we have a very Good Relationship based on trust and confidence. The other is dhs and the way we partner with them on cyber. Again, we are pretty much talked about the physical side of it, but we cant without talking about the cyber side. We had situations are that develop where we have instantaneous with dhs and we have to. They have, to ours there are tentacles onto other agencies, public one of the best alerting capability that we have a once we detect something, you know, amiss, to be able to let others instantly know about that. It goes to that mitigation of the damage affect because if theyre hitting us, they are probably hitting other people, as weve seen with this recent incident this week around the world. Thank you. This concludes the opening session, of the open session of the legislative branch some Appropriations Committee regarding fiscal 2018. The hearing record will remain open for seven days allowing the riches of that statements and question for the record which should be sent to the subcommittee by july 6, 2017. The committee will not let you in any meagerly reconvene in to review the review security needs for sergeant at arms Capitol Police budget. This portion of you will be restricted to members and staff with ts levels clearance only. So i appreciate all of you being here and being part of this conversation look forward to reconvening in the other location for the close session. Thank you. This hearing is adjourned. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] coming up tonight, cia director mike pompeo is the keynote speaker at the intelligence and National Security Alliance Leadership dinner. Following his remarks he will take questions about his vision for the cia, National Security threats, and the value of publicprivate collaboration. Our live coverage begins at 8 p. M. Eastern here on cspan2. Later today in the George Washington University Host a discussion on samesex marriage and the fight for lgbt rights. Live coverage beginning at 7 p. M. Eastern on cspan3. Sunday on q a countries and absolute monarchy, the distribution of wealth, the corruption, could get you in so much trouble. 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