Id like to call the hearing to order. I want to welcome our witness today. David glouwy. Glawe. President trumps nominee to be the next undersecretary or the intelligence and analysis of the department of Homeland Security. David, congratulations on your nomination. Id like to take a moment to recognize the sizable family contingent you have behind you today. And thank your husband perry of for his unwavering support. I think its also important to pay tribute and thanks thank you or your family for the honorable government service. Perry is a supervisory special agent at the fbi. Your father jim glawe served in the korean war. Your brother in law gerald se lanas served in desert storm and your sister works at the v. A. I thank you for your service to your country and your dedication and selfless service. Our goal in conducting this hearing is to enable the committee to consider mr. Glawes qualifications and to allow for a thoughtful deliberation by our members. Hes already provided written responses to more than 80 questions presented by the committee and its members. Today of course members will be able to ask additional questions of the nominee. David, let me just warn you, when you see nobody beside mark and i, this is a good thing for a nominee. David comes to us with more than 24 years of National Security in Law Enforcement experience. He began his career as a Houston Police officer before serving as a federal agent with the u. S. Postal Inspection Service and as a special agent with the fbi. In 2012, mr. Glawe was named the Deputy National intelligence manager for threat and finance and transnational organized crime before serving as the chief Intelligence Officer for the United States custom Border Protection office of intelligence. Mr. Glawe is supporting the National Security council as a special assistant to the president. You have been asked to lead the department of Homeland Securitys intelligence and analytics component at a time when we are facing complex, evolving and continuous threats to the homeland. The Intelligence Community is traitzing threats from is tracing threats from state and nonstate actors to our Critical Infrastructure and we continue to debate the scope and scale of our u. S. Intelligence collection and legal authorities. I expect youll be a forceful advocate for the Intelligence Community in those discussions while maintaining a steadfast respect for the rule of law. As i mentioned to prior nominees before this committee, i can assure you that the Senate Intelligence committee will continue to faithfully follow its charter and conduct vigorous and realtime oversight over every Intelligence Community entity. Its operations and its activities. Well ask difficult and probing questions of you and your staff and we expect honest, complete and timely responses. Your Law Enforcement and intelligence experience prepare you well to support dhs and im hopeful that you will look at the department with a fresh set of eyes and a new perspective as you chart its course moving forward. I look forward to supporting your nomination and ensuring a consideration without delay. I want to thank you again for being here, for your years of service to your country and i look forward to your testimony and uno i recognize the and now i recognize the vice chairman for any comments he has. Thank you. Welcome, mr. Glawe. Let me say i think this is the earliest Intelligence Committee meeting i ever attended and it shows my commitment to your appearance and the questions i have for you that because unlike the chairman who only lives close, i actually live back in my home state of virginia and, you know, when i can assure you when i was governor there was a lot less traffic. So congratulations on your nomination as the head of the office of intelligence and analysis. This position sits at a critical juncture between the analytic work of the intelligence commune tie and the information sharing role of the department of Homeland Security. If confirmed your job will be to ensure that the critical proc s process pieces of information are delivered immediately throughout the department as well as to your partners at federal, state and local and Tribal Department agencies that need it. I believe that you have an understanding of this need given your background in Law Enforcement and the Intelligence Community. I also appreciate the support you have received from my friend former odi jim clapper and from Law Enforcement organizations representing the nations chiefs of police, county sheriffs and narcotics officers. But lets be clear. Dhs ina requires a strong leader. While the mission is defined it continues to evolve and mature since the creation of dhs over a decade ago. I remain concerned about the level of sharing with Law Enforcement. The large contractual workforce and the whole Fusion Center workforce. It makes sense in virginia, but im not sure its been implemented in the right way and would love again to have your fresh set of eyes look at this. The truth is this job has never been easy and its not going to be easy now going forward. If youre confirmed i will also expect your full cooperation with this committees bipartisan investigation into russias Cyber Attacks and interference in our 2016 president ial election and the conserpss about few concerns about future meddling. I have asked dhs to share with this Committee Even if we cannot reveal them publicly the names of the 21 states that the department testified last week were attacked by russian hackers. I have written to and spoken with secretary kelly about this matter. And as the Oversight Committee for all intelligence issues this committee is entitled to have that information. I want to thank the chairman because this week the chairman sent a letter to all relevant state Election Officials asking that this information be made public. As i said last week, i dont see how americans are made safer when they do not know which state election systems the russians potentially attacked and i particularly feel this way since my home state of virginia has major state elections this year. Again, thank you for appearing before the committee and i look forward to your testimony. Thank you, mr. Chairman. Thank you, Vice President. I can attest to the fact this is the earlest hes ever been here. I want to recognize the chairman of the Senate Judiciary committee to introduce our nominee, senator chuck grassley. Senator grassley, the floor is yours. Thank you, senator burr, and Ranking Member warner. Before i read three or four minute statement i would like to say that im proud to be here to introduce to the committee a person whose family and he has deep roots in iowa. And im glad to be here. I think if i could probably give one sentence which would repeat something you said that you talked about him. Because ill be repetitive of some of the things that you said but you talked about his Honorable Service within government and his public service, well qualified to take this position. So i would emphasize that as i say that im proud to recognize david glawe as a nominee for undersecretary for intelligence and analysis at dhs. He is a dedicated Public Servant with over 20 years of National Security and Law Enforcement experience. He currently serves on the National Security council as special assistant to the president and senior director for Homeland Security. Prior to this, the nominee served as chief Intelligence Officer for the u. S. Customs and Border Protection. Mr. Glawe is a former Police Officer and federal agent with both the u. S. Postal Inspection Service and the fbi. In 2007, he served in iraq and africa on a joint fbi deployment with the department of defense. Following this tour, he was a Senior Adviser at the National Counterterrorism center. In 2012 the nominee was named Deputy National intelligence manager for threat, finance and transnational organized crime where he oversaw and integrated the Intelligence Communitys Data Collections and analyses. In 2014, he began serving as National Security counsel on that council as a Senior Intelligence official responsible for implementing the president s strategy on transnational organized crime. In 2015, mr. Glawe was awarded the National Intelligence superior Service Medal for his extraordinary contribution to the u. S. Intelligence community and our nations security. The nominee is an iowa native as i said. Still has family in iowa. Hes a graduate of my alma mater of the university of Northern Iowa and also a graduate of Harvard Universitys jfk school of government. He got started in Law Enforcement and advanced his impressive career with characteristically outstanding iowa work ethic. He shared with me how much these roots mean to him. And i appreciate his commitment to putting them to work in this new position for our nation as he has several positions in the past. Mr. Glawes mother nancy is someone who i have crossed paths with for a long time in iowa as well. Im proud to say. And i know shes glad to be here with the rest of her family and his friends today to celebrate with him and to support him through this process. Thank you for holding this hearing and i urge you to support his nomination to fill this very important post. Thank you. Chairman grassley, thank you for for that very thorough introduction. Before i david, i ask you to stand to be sworn in. I want to recognize your mother nancy. I didnt recognize her earlier when i recognized your dad. I also want to recognize why he left the room, and your daughter alexis who is an absolute doll. If you will, raise your right hand. Do you solemnly swear to tell the truth, nothing but the truth, so help you god. Yes, sir. Please be seated. David, youre now sworn in. Before we move to your statement, id like to ask you five standard questions that the committee poses to each nominee who appears before us. They just require a simple yes or no answer for the record. Do you agree to appear before the committee here or in other venues when invited . Yes. If confirmed do you agree to send officials from your office to appear before the committee and designated staff when invited . Yes. Do you agree to provide documents or any ore material requested by the committee in order for us to carry out its our oversight and legislative responsibilities . Yes. Will you both ensure that your office and your staff provide such materials to the committee when requested . Yes. Do you agree to fully brief all members of the committee of relevant intelligence activities rather than only the chair and the vice chairman . Yes. Thank you very much. Well now proceed. David, your Opening Statement, the floor is yours. Thank you, senator. Chairman burr, vice chairman warner, members of the committee, thank you for the opportunity to appear before you today as the president s nominee for undersecretary for intelligence and analysis at the department of Homeland Security. Im honored to have been nominated by President Trump and im honored to receive the support by secretary kelly. Before we begin i want to thank senator grassley born and raised in the state of iowa. I learned about the importance of civic duty and serving in the community. I never dreamed one day i would have the opportunity to meet and get to know an iowa legend. Thank you. Thank you, senator grassley for the heart felt introduction and nearly 60 years of service to the people of iowa and the country. Next i want to recognize my family. Im grateful for their support and sacrifice that allowed me this opportunity. With us today are the bedrocks of my life. My 20yearold partner and husband, perry gorsh and our two children. Alexis and wyatt. Also my father, jim glawe an army veteran drafted for the korean war. My mother, retired kindergarten teacher, my sister, who works for the Veterans AffairsMedical Center and her husband who works also in the davenport office. My mother in law a life long volunteer in keister, minnesota. I want to recognize my deceased fatherinlaw roger, retired as a teacher and athletic coach. I would like to thank my family and friends my friends and coworkers who have supported me throughout my life. I wouldnt have this opportunity without them. The Mission Statement of dhs is clear and direct. With honor and integrity well safeguard the american people, our homeland and our values. Dhs faces a complex and evolving threat environment and must work across the federal government in concert with the local, tribal and private sector partners. I have over 20 years in Law Enforcement experience and ill apply that knowledge to drive intelligence and Operational Integration and share information, deliver unique analysis and identify vulnerabilities and ultimately mitigate threats. Ina has one of the most Broad Customer bases and meeting the demands are challenging. I need to focus on the areas they are positioned to add value, like travel, borders, that rihanna and Aviation Security. Inas greatest strepts is its people. We will endeavor to implement secretary kellys vision by meeting the needs of the primary customers integrate is intelligence and making ina diverse, mission focus and productive environment for the workforce. In closing i would like to take a moment to recognize the Important RoleCongress Plays in the success of ina. If confirmed i pledge to enable the committee to fill that role by keeping you fully informed and transparent on the activities and developments. Mr. Chairman, i will stop there and submit the remainder of my comments for the record. Thank you for the opportunity to appear before you today. I look forward to answering your questions. David, thank you very much. Once again, i thank all of your family members for their Tremendous Service to the country and more importantly to the security of this country. With that, im going to turn to the vice chairman. Mr. Glawe, let me recognize your family and very impressive. And i know they have got to be all very, very proud of you. I want to start a couple of questions in relation to our hearing last week and just kind of get your sense on this. I want to make in addition to the questions that the chairman asked will you commit as well to working with this committee as we go forward on our ongoing russia investigation, making sure that we get as much access as possible, making yourself is available, necessary material, cables, products and other materials and make sure those are if requested are provided to this committee as quickly as possible . Absolutely. Mr. Glawe, one of the things that came away last week was a real concern. Again, well, directly i want to get your view. We had representatives from dhs here. They had indicated 21 states had been the subject of at least some level of russian incursion. But it became evident through the testimony that in many cases the only contact that was made with those states may not have been to the top election official, the secretary of state or other election official. It might have been just been to the vendor who might have been or having the Voter Registration roll. I think the chairman and i both feel that we are not made safer by keeping that information private. We understand that dhs views the states have a collaborative relationship with the states and want to maintain that collaborative relationship, but they in effect view the states as victims and consequentially feel like its the obligation of the state to come forward. We had the official from indiana and wisconsin here. Neither one of them knew whether their states had been attacked. We had the Illinois State election official here who had clearly indicated he was he was the victim of an attack but until the testimony the previous testimony of dhs had not realized or never been told by dhs that it was actually russia who was behind the attack into the illinois system. What id like you to do is just commit to work with us as we try to sort through this, recognizing that theres no effort here to relitigate 2016 or to embarrass any state. But weve got to make sure that the states that were subject of attacks are prepared so that that information can you know, filter down to local Election Officials so that they can all take the necessary precautions. So do you want to comment on that, any thoughts you might have and how we might be able to address this rob . Sure. Thank you for the question. I appreciate the opportunity to discuss that. I did watch most of the testimony last week as well. I share your concerns regarding the state and the russian intrusion into the state electorals. I also understand the challenges were sharing that information regarding the individual states vulnerabilities. I am committed to work with you and be completely transparent with that. I understand the need to understand whos been hacked or the intrusion occurred and the unique vulnerabilities to each state which may be different and working through the challenges. I concur, the solutions arent going to be easy and the problem is increasing. And i fully commit if confirmed to work with you, sir. I would hope youd share with us, even if its on a confidential basis this committee so that we can, you know, again figure out a way to sort through to make sure were better prepared. Absolutely, senator. All right. Im going to hold you to that because i look forward to working with you. Im down to the last minute. Let me ask you this. One of the things as i mentioned in my Opening Statement the concept of the Fusion Center makes a great deal of sense. I do wonder at times if theres not duplication and just wonder whether you have you know, many years in now to this concept. Is it working the right way and since youre at the nub of this kind of intelligence and analysis, what would you do to improve this concept or do you feel like its working . Senator, again, thank you for the question. I appreciate the opportunity to talk about that. I was actually on the joint Terrorism Task force and one of the first Fusion Centers was set up in virginia and im familiar with it and the challenges. Coming from the state and local perspective i have a unique posture of i understand what the needs are of the state the state municipalities as well. If confirmed i think its ill need an opportunity to wrap my arms around a little bit better on what they have, and each state operates differently. Im committed to work with the committee and yourself and to have a thorough assessment. What i can say is when meeting with numerous of the organizations that graciously supported me, the chiefs and the state Law Enforcement we see the need for it. We need a mechanism to share information. I think its without question there can be improvements in that. I know undersecretary taylor my predecessor if confirmed was working that im obligated and im committed to do that as well. I dont have a i dont have a set of recommendations. I do think the whole concept though needs a fresh look. I look forward to working with you on that. Thank you, mr. Chairman. Senator cornyn. Thank you, congratulations, mr. Glawe. Anyone chairman grassley he supports usually guarantees my support so i look forward to your continued service to the country. I have a broad question on Cyber Security. On the debates we have had on Cyber Security we have been unable to overcome the silos that congress itself has built when it comes to jurisdiction over this issue. And the concerns we have had about the organization of the department of Homeland Security since 9 11 and the challenges that its had, just culturally dealing with so many different dispirit agencies now under the umbrella of dhs. But id be interested in your views about the short comings and maybe the opportunities that we have in to deal with the cyber threat because it seems to me like we are doing a poor job as a as an all of government approach. Senator, thank you for the question. Thank you for meeting with me privately and going over the issues. I think its a tremendous opportunity in the department to have an integration of Business Enterprise towards this. The elicit pathways of the cyber threat knows no boundaries and knows no borders. Transnational criminal organizations, terrorism organizations, foreign intelligence organizations, nonstate actors threaten our cyber and threaten the Critical Infrastructure. I have had some initial briefings on our cyber posture within dhs. If confirmed i would need to unpack that business process we have in place, but what i can commit, senator, if confirmed is i will bring a sense of urgency because thats the whole world i came from. I have served the public, i served the community where the sense you didnt go home until the threats were mitigated. Now within dhs and within the u. S. Government we can say we have room for improvement. I look forward to working with you and the committee if confirmed on that challenge. People are skeptical of our most keepable government agent capable Government Agency when it comes to cyber which is nsa so by default it seems like the department of Homeland Security must assume that role as an intermediary between our agencies like the nsa and the private sector who views with skepticism also governments ability to keep information confidential when it when theres so much at risk from a business standpoint when information about Cyber Attacks, successful Cyber Attacks becomes news. So we look forward to guessing your recommendation to getting your recommendation and i would encourage you, we need somebody to stand up and speak with clarity about what we as policymakers need to do to better deal with this threat because as i said i dont think were doing a very good job right now. Thank you. Senator manchin. Thank you, mr. Chairman. Thank you, mr. Glawe, for being here. First, lit me thank let me thank your family for the service they have given to the country and for you to continue in the footstep of serving our great country. If you can tell me about your experience as a Police Officer in houston and how that shaped your dedication to service and be able to lead the dhs with a different perspective as someone who worked themselves through the ranks. Thank you, and thank you for meeting with me yesterday, it was a pleasure and an honor to meet you. I spent a lot of time at west virginia, its a wonderful state, a wonderful facility. Thank you for that opportunity to talk about that as a Houston Police officer i was 22 years old when i got out of the academy and i was sorry, i just turned 23. I was the youngest Police Officer in the department when i hit the streets and i responded to peoples homes on the worst day of their lives in an effort to hopefully to make it better. When you called 911 and you responded for a call for service it was inevitably the worst day of someones life. With that, i brought a sense of urgency and community but also an understanding of how important intelligence is. I didnt understand the totality of it. We must have forward leaning and tactical level intelligence to get to our operators and policymakers to allow the appropriate decisions to be made to mitigate those threats. And working with the sense of urgency, what i have seen throughout my 20plus years and being working as an entry level special agent in the fbi and the post 9 11 environment, we have tried to be proactive to get ahead of the threats but we have to posture ourselves as an enterprise to be forward leaning to identify the threats before they happen. Because the worst day scenario is when you have to call 91 is and a uniformed Police Officer has to respond after the fact. What do you think is going what do you think the greatest Security Threat the United States faces . Thank you, senator, for the question. The elicit pathways, the elicit pathways associated with cyber is a threat. I dont want to get ahead of the threat priorities that the administration and the secretary kelly will set, but what i willg used by transnational criminal organization, by fgnganization, intelligence organizations, by terrorist networks and by nonstate actors that are on the full spectrum of elicit activity from child exploitation, to foreign intelligence activity we are at a real challenging situation now. How as policymakers and decisionmakers and i can share that intelligence with you to make a good decision that, im committed to that. I look forward if confirm and working with you on that. The tsa comes intertwined with your duties. Are you concerned or do you have any concerns with our tsa, our Technology Advancements to detect any type of foreign intervention if you will, and how would you build the cooperation between all of those nations and countries that have the ability and to fly into our airports and use our u. S. Facilities and the concern that you may have with them bringing danger to our country . Senator, thank you for the question. And if confirmed, i look forward to taking on that challenge and its a big challenge. The information sharing agreements and our vetting processes to identify nefarious actors from any country in the world that pose a threat from any threat vector, not just terrorism. Again, Transnational Criminal Organizations as welt that operate as sophisticated as a Foreign Service organization, but back to your comment about Aviation Security. In any vulnerabilities we have in the Aviation Security arena, i dont think its with any question that the terrorism organizations still view aviation as a threat vector they want to attack. And a nightmare scenario is having a u. S. Flag or any flag carrier to get taken out of the sky. Its something that keeps all of us at night. Im looking forward to looking for the vulnerabilities with secretary kelly and work through the threats. Will you if asked by the president render your assessment regardless if its counter to the current administrations policy or view point . Senator, thank you for that question and absolutely i will always give my honest assessment. With complete integrity of the intelligence process. Thank you. Congratulations. Senator harris . Thank you. Good morning. I couldnt agree with you more on your priorities around cyber and Transnational Criminal Organizations and if confirmed i look forward to working with you on those. Theres been a report and i just like you to give me your perspective on it and explanation that while you were acting undersecretary for intelligence and analysis that you withheld a report as it related to the president s executive order on what we called the muslim ban. Can you give me your perspective on that report and what actually happened. Sure. Thank you for the opportunity to clarify that. So i had no involvement in the executive order until the day it was released and the report that youre referencing there was a compilation of information that was going to be used in the potential or the litigation for the executive order and it was a combination of multiple intelligence organizations. The information that was contained in that report a majority was placed in an intelligence product that was disseminated and i authored that dissemination after that information was out or the leak in the newspaper. Was there a reason it was withheld before then . Senator, it was information being compiled in a declaration that was going to be used for the executive order after it was stayed. So it was work product is that yes, senator. Okay. So on the issue of state election infrastructure, you had mentioned that you watched or heard part of the proceedings that we had in that regard. Im concerned about what we heard in regard to whether or not dhs has adopted an adequate policy for coordinating with states and one of the concerns that repeatedly we heard and we have heard is that the states are concerned they dont have access to intelligence. To safeguard their systems. Obviously, we have concerns about classified information and those who do not have authority receiving any classified information. How do you propose we could improve our system to give the states more information and intelligence to emphasize the priority they should place on concerns about hacks . Senator, thank you for that question. I have had the initial briefings from nppd on our infrastructure to share information as well as on the Fusion Centers. If confirmed, i look forward to looking at the Business Enterprise of how were doing business and having a sense of urgency. Senator, i come from a background in that arena throughout my entire career to operate with a sense of urgency, disseminate intelligence to mitigate the threats. I share your concern that we are not postured possibly in that arena, but i need to unpack and identify those vulnerabilities and how quickly to respond to them. Can you give me examples of what you might be a remedy or what a remedy might look like . I appreciate what you said earlier, that solutions wont be easy. Senator, i think i would have to take a stronger look not a stronger, but a more in depth look at our Current Business structure of how that information is being disseminated and what is in place. I would like to say that the Fusion Centers would be a natural touch point, but im not sure theyre postured to date to do that mission. Especially in the top secret information that has to go down and or a terror level and to echo what my predecessor said to get it to the private sector and their vulnerabilities which is tremendous. I share your concerns and well work through those challenges. If you did not see that part of the testimony i would urge you to review the hearing we had about what may be a different approach if were talking about a vendor versus state officials who are elected or appointed to represent the state through the State Government system. Senator, thank you. And i did see part of that in some of the confusion of involving the legal authorities and disclosure, it we have to work through that. I agree with your frustration and im committed to work through it if confirmed. If confirmed can you give this committee a commitment that you will provide us with a report about your assessment well before the 2018 election and if possible provide us that report before the end of this year . Senator, if confirmed i absolutely commit to that. Thank you. I have nothing else. Thank you. David, theres been a lot of discussion about the future of the intelligence component at dhs. How it should be structured, how its mission is defined. What authorities it should operate under and who ultimately its customers are. Who do you view as the the core customer . Thank you, senator. Thank you for the question. I have a unique perspective because i was the head of intelligence at u. S. Customs and Border Protection, the largest component of dhs and the largest Law Enforcement organization in the United States. The customers are diverse and its a challenge because its not necessarily an either or. We have the policymakers. And then the Senior Administration officials which you are the senior policy officials on this stuff in the legislature and we have the state and locals and we have to share it with the state and locals and were the only one stat toirlly mandated to do that. But what i see equally as the come points. Dhs a powerful organization, but they have had challenges getting information to them intelligence, high side information to the most critical components. I would use customs and Border Protection as one of those. They are the last line of defense for incoming foreign threats and Law Enforcement data will not cut it alone. We have to we will have to find solutions. Either through our vetting and information sharing agreements or processes to ensure that they get all the information they need on the border to mitigate threats. So senator, i apologize i didnt quite answer you, because dhs mission is so important with state and locals that dhs component, the private sector and policymakers we have to serve them all. If confirmed i have to come up with the Business Plan and process to do that with the sense of urgency and understanding what our customer needs. Let me ask you it a different way. What value does ina bring . Senator, thank you. Inas mission is robust and the employees are dedicated and committed to that interweaving that dhs components information is a critical code. They are structured to bring in that component except for the coast guard and ensuring theyre getting information to the state and local. So i see that as a heavy pronged approach. What i would say is if confirmed i would bring the mission focus operational focus to ensure were meeting our customers need with a sense of urgency. I believe i said it earlier. You know, the having that mindset to deliver tactical level and strategic intelligence to move resources, to be adaptive, to mitigate threats immediately, men and women of ina are incredibly dedicate and incredible people and i hope to help them with that mission. You have got the unique background of having served in a number of different capacities that touch the Intelligence Community and the product that comes out of it. The committees been concerned for some time about the analytic duplication that exists across government the government wide. Do you share that concern and what do you see as the analytic component of dhs or should they be a customer of somebody elses an littic product . Thank you for the question. And i have been a unique position throughout my career to understand that challenge. Especially as a terrorism agent in the fbi and looking at dhs inas role in the terrorism space and the uniqueness of providing information. And if confirmed im committed to look for the business process to ensure thats not duplication. That we are at ina if confirmed at ina i would find the business process for that unique space they operate in, which is ensuring state and local private sector sharing both ways and then within the dhs component, the opportunity to enhance their missions and to integrate it within border security, trade, travel, aviation and Critical Infrastructure is a real opportunity i think to and to look at ina in our processes and business process to facilitate that mission and carve out stuff that we dont need, that other organizations are doing and doing it well. To make sure youre using the taxpayer dollars well and mitigating the threats. Given the mix of your agency the mission of your agency as you look forward over the next ten years, do you see more employees that are Government Employees or more employees that are contractors based upon what you know the skill sets that youre going to need to attract . Senator, thank you for your question. I have seen incredibly dedicated contractors i have worked for in my prior capacity, but i believe a workforce, a continuing workforce, historical workforce with the knowledge coming up through the ranks like i said, i have and also maintaining an employee Business Environment so we retain employes so were competitive is critical to dhs ina. I have seen the committees past reports on reducing the number of contractors and im committed to that as well. I agree we would continue to have a Government Workforce in maintaining quality employees from the entry level and having career progressions all the way up through the senior ranks. I think im a benefit of those type of career paths and i would like to include that at dhs ina if confirmed. Im going to put you on the spot. If your view is there any overlap in dhss and fbis efforts to counter violent extremists as others have expressed . Senator, thank you for the question. I think there is potential overlap there, but Business Solutions and partnerships which i will bring with the fbi are easy for me. I have no i know the fbi well. Im friends with them. I grew up with them through the management change. But the uniqueness of ina, of incorporating suspicious activity and partnering with state and local and tribal and private sector partners is the unique spot that ina is in and can fill and the fbi is case driven, investigative driven. At my job at ina is to ensure that the intelligence is shared on the type of threats and i think we have a partnership with the fbi and the local partners in the threat space. Ina is such a small piece of dhs. Do you have any concerns about getting lost relative to the secretarys view of whatina is . Senator, i do i think the critical thing is scoping the mission with having the midlevel and entry level managers understanding our mission directly. So we are focused on the main mission of keeping the homeland safe. If we cant be everything to everyone. And that could cause challenges. So the scoping and the Business Plan in my opinion if confirmed is going to be the critical aspects of ina moving out. I encourage you to make sure that ina is a full partner in the enterprise there versus just the agency you turn to. When theres an oh, blank moment. Well turn to the vice chairman. I appreciate your comments and i want to follow up on what i raised and senator harris raised. I was surprised last week when we had the head of all the association of secretaries of state who basically viewed that the designation of our electoral system as Critical Infrastructure, she felt that was a burden rather than an asset. And again, not sure this will exactly fall within your purview, but i want to reemphasize that something is wrong with our system if we have information and we feel like our top state Election Officials are not cleared in an appropriate security clearance level to get briefed on that information. Again, i think we missed dodged a bullet in 2016 because none of the systems were penetrated to a level that affected, but if theres one word we heard from the ic, its that the russians will be back. I would hope we get to a point where if your designated Critical Infrastructure, you felt that was a net positive to your institution, and dhs was providing both asset support and information sharing in a way that, again, made sure that our most critical component of our democratic process, our voting systems protected. I hope youll think through that. Its a new area and i appreciated the comments from dhs last week. This is something we have to get to where theres a real sense of urgency immediately. Thank you, vice chairman. David, i want to thank you again for your service to the country and your familys service. Senator manchin. Possible to follow up on one question . The senator is recognized. Thank you very much. David, what have we learned since 9 11 . You know, i understood that we had a lot of we were a lot of the Intelligence Community was warned, but there wasnt anybody talking at all, but everybody was concerned about that. In your valuation of taking on the role youre going to take on, what do you think that maybe you have learned or we have learned or we should have learned and how can you make sure that doesnt repeat itself . Because youre going to share this down to the level you started at. Now youre at the top of the food chain. You know what its like down there. Thats where its got to stop. I read all the reports of 9 11. It really shouldnt have happened. Senator, thank you for the question. I thought about that for many years. And coming up through the entry level ranks and serving with some very elite intelligence and operational squads and teams, the one thing i have learned is a Mission Integrated operationally focused approach. And empowering your leaders, empowering your mid and lower level staff with an operational mindset that all threats must be mitigated. You dont go home at the end of the night until the threats are mitigated and you share you do everything you can in the legal bounds of sharing information with each other. When you do recognize stovepipes or vulnerabilities, raise them up immediately. You cant sit on them. I was fortunate enough early on in my career to have been the lead on the threat in the homeland at a very entry level, and some incredible leaders i worked for allowed me to develop the program to mitigate that threat. That also involved oversea partners. I have taken that to heart on how i view every day i go to work, is on mitigating threat. So integrating, intelligence and operations. Clear and direct information lines to policymakers, so as threats are emerging, we need to change. We change together as a team. Because i view this as a one one team, one fight approach. Doesnt matter what side of the aisle youre on. Its about keeping the country safe. Im committed to that and will always be committed to that. David, again, i want to thank you for your service, your family for their service. And more importantly, for your willingness to fill this role that the president is asking you to do. Its incredible. I have enjoyed your lovely children. If i didnt have a 15monthold granddaughter, i would take alexis home with me today. David, its the vice chairs and my intent to move your nomination as rapidly as we can. As you know, theres a great likelihood we wont adjourn for the fourth of july week tomorrow. I can assure you if theres any way to get the process moving before we leave, well try to do that. Mark and i will talk. If not, well do it as quickly as we can when we get back. Its my hope to get you permanently placed no later than the july timeframe. My one reminder to you is that dhs has many bosses. From a standpoint of policy. You have one. And its this committee. And the intelligence that you process through the ina is of great interest to us. I want to go back to this duplication thing just very briefly because having served in multiple capacities that you have, i think you can understand my frustration. When i sit down in the morning and i go through my intelligence reports from overnight, and i find a report that i read from five different areas and at the bottom of it, the core source was the same product, it really makes me wonder why we need five different interpretations of the same core product, and if that core product is as important as i think it is, why isnt everybody turning to them versus trying to recreate the wheel with every turn. I hope youll remember that as you serve out this term at ina because i really think weve got to refine what we do and how we do it from an intelligence standpoint. The rest of the world is changing and they dont have the rules and they dont have the history to encumber them like we do in the United States. We have to figure out how to get the history of the way, but the rules are going to stay. And we will be very aggressive from our standpoint of our oversight of you and the organization. With that, this hearing is adjourned. The nations governors continue their annual summer meeting in rhode island. Well have live coverage on cspan 2 this afternoon at 1 15 eastern with Vice President mike pence and canadian Prime MinisterJustin Trudeau discu discussing the global economy. Tomorrow, tesla ceo elan musk will talk about computer coding and civic engagement. Starts at 9 30 eastern. Reminder that you can find all of it online at cspan. Org or listen with the free cspan radio app. This weekend on American History tv on cspan tv, start at 8 p. M. Eastern, on lectures in history. Appalachian State University professor judd kin browning discusses mccullens failed attempt to take the fed rat capit capital in richmond. 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I was a junior in college in 1960 and it was the first time i ever heard the word charisma. And it was because he had charisma. Richard nixon didnt have charisma. Lbj didnt have charisma. But jack kennedy had charisma and i think that could have possibly tipped the balance in some peoples minds. And smart as hell too. For our complete American History tv schedule, go to cspan. Org. Earlier this week, military and government leaders from estonia, norway and the u. S. Discussed the russianled military exer sicise in and aro the baltic sea. The program was hosted by the atlantic council. Its an hour and 40 minutes. Good morning. Welcome to this event. Implications for nato and the United States. I know its already getting muggy out there so