Clubs against unarmed human beings who were simply marching for justice to it was normalcy in a cafe in selma, alabama, that led to the brutal beating of the reverend james reese. It is normalcy all over our country which needs two leaves the negro perishing on a lonely island of poverty and a bad ocean of prosperity. It is normalcy all over alabama that prevents the negro from the coming a registered voter. No we will not allow alabama to return to normalcy. The only normalcy that we will settle for is the normalcy that recognizes the dignity and works of all of gods children. The only normalcy that we will settle for is the normalcy of brotherhood, the normalcy of true peace, the normalcy of justice. I must admit to you that there are still some difficult days ahead. Many of the black belt counties of alabama, and many areas of mississippi, many areas of louisiana i must admit to you that there are still jail cells waiting for us. If we will go on with nonviolence and its power can transform yesterday into bright tomorrow, we will be depicted change all of these conditions. You are asking today how long will it take. Somebodys asking along well prejudice line frustrated on the street in birmingham and a community from the south be let to from the and so to reign supreme among the children of men. And at how long will justice be crucified. I come to say to you this afternoon. However frustrating the hour, it will not be long because truth will rise again. How long, not long. Because no lie can live for ever. How long . Not long. Because you shall reap what you sow. How long . Not long. Truth for ever on the scaffold. Wrong forever on the throne. It is that scaffold sways the future and behind the lens a known stance got up in the shadows, keeping watch above his own. How long . Not long. Because the art of the moral universe is long it has been towards justice. How long . Not long because mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the lord. He is trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored. Has this faith of lighting as his terrible swiss soared. History does berger guy. He he has founded for the trumpet that shall never call retreat. He is sifting out the hearts of men that bore his judgment day. Oh be swift to answer him. Be jubilant might be. Our god is marching on. Glory, glory hallelujah. Glory hallelujah. Glory, hallelujah. Glory, hallelujah. Glory, hallelujah. His truth is marching on. [ applause ]. Treat us cspanhistory. Take us back 50 years ago today. What was some like . And what led up to the idea of the march to montgomery in the first place . Reverend lafayette well, it was a very extraordinary. Extraordinary period in our history. Because what we were doing was basically giving a voice to the people who are voiceless. And that is what all these movements are about. Helping to give people a voice who otherwise would not be heard. We feel that if the voices of the poor, the voices of the disenfranchised, the voices of the suffering people are heard other people will respond. So, selma, alabama is that example of where people around the country and around the world heard the voices crying out for people not being treated equally as human beings. Now, the reason we were going to my comic alabama i want to make it there is because that is the state capital of alabama. We did not have much is there before from selma, but the reason we had this particular march is because of what happened to jackson in marion, alabama. Your shot by a state trooper. He was shot by a state trooper. Earlier, we had people marching to the courthouse to attempt to register to vote. But the reason why the march was decided to go to montgomery, alabama it was actually jim bevel who asked jacksons grandfather would you be willing to march and continue to march. He said, yes. Jim said he wanted to Say Something to wallace. And he wanted to take his time and put his thoughts together. And he wanted to walk, so he would have time. So he said he was going to walk. And then he said, do you think anybody would walk with me . I said, well, i dont know, i will walk with you. That night, he asked the audience. He said, i have to take a message to governor wallace in montgomery, alabama. And im going to walk. And that he said, well, would anyone here in this church walk with me to echo the walk with me . The entire congregation stood up. He looked at me and said, we have ourselves a march. That was the genesis of the march to montgomery. And the march was about getting the government to recognize the fact that we did not have a right to vote. You could only register in one place. At that time, people were not allowed to vote for president of the United States. Because if you couldnt get registered in your own county, or your city, you couldnt participate in government. So, therefore, these people had no voice in the government. So the march was about giving people a voice. And we were absolutely right in our assumption and nonviolent. We take the position that you could only bring about significant change if you are able to win the sympathy, the active support of the majority. And the majority of the people who can make those decisions were in congress. And the supreme court. So, therefore, we had to make an appeal. So once they marched across that ridge bridge, we decided that what we were going to do was continue. Because if someone tries to stifle your voice, the most important response you can have is to get louder. So that is why our decision, after jackson, was to have a longer march and a larger march. The appeal to the public after bloody sunday, people started coming down from everywhere. Churches and religions, they all, ok, joined in. See, we believe in the American People. And we believed if we speak out and they understand what we are saying, they understand our suffering. They understand the feeling we have that we are being denied. Certain basic rights. And they were not only talking about rights of citizens, we are talking about rights as human beings. Because we are human beings first. And that march was all about respecting humanity. Respecting lives. Yes, black lives, white lives ok, all human life. If you recall, the large number of people who were killed in the Selma Movement were not blacks. They were whites. Yes. And, therefore, people believed that this was the important thing about this march. Today, the commemoration. 50 years ago today bloody sunday. Going to take some calls for reverend yet lafayette, who is one of the leaders. Edward in trenton, new jersey has been very patient on the line for a while. Go ahead. Caller dr. Lafayette, i have seen you come to trenton, new jersey. Do you know of any Younger Generation activists stepping up to the plate . Reverend lafayette from trenton, new jersey . Do i know any young people that were activists . I dont know any in particular ones because i have not spent that much time there. I was to therefore visit. But there are some there, i am sure. But we have 40 different organizations. Including those abroad. I am on a Conference Call every week with the leaders of these organizations of young people. And we know for fact that they are not going to allow this movement to stop. So the voice that we are talking about is the voices that were cut off by ropes when they were hanging people. They didnt want to hear their voices. These young people have picked up. We talk about trade on margin treyvon martin, they cut off his voice. In new york, i cant breathe, i cant breathe. He was actually breathing. That is why the tro cold continue to be applied because they did not want to hear the fact that the person cannot breathe. So i am excited about these young people. And i know that they are going to make this lasting movement. Each of our movements are in the names of cities. The montgomery movement, birmingham movement, ok . Selma movement. Voters rights. Now, it is going to be ferguson, missouri. That is our next movement. Lets go back to the phones. Rochelle in providence, rhode island. Caller yes. Go ahead. Caller dr. Lafayette, do you see todays commemoration of the sum of march bloody sunday more of a celebration of past civil rights accomplishments . Or should it or is it more of a protest against recent judicial compromises in the Voting Rights act . Reverend lafayette yes, the movement in selma today. This is a celebration. Commemoration. But also a continuation. A continuation of the same movement that we have experienced all along. That movement will not stop. King made his last speech in memphis, tennessee. He said, i have been to the mountaintop, i have looked over and i have seen the Promised Land. I may not get there, but i believe that we come as a people, well get to the Promised Land. So we look at the movement and the young people who are working to help her about that change that we are convinced that this is more than simply a protest did it is simply a protest. It is simply not complaining about the problems, but it is moving with a strategy determination, and continuation until we are able to make some basic changes. Eugene is on the phone from stone mountain, georgia. Go ahead eugene. Caller yes, i would like to ask reverend yet. Does he think america has come far enough in its promises to to yes. I would like to ask reverend e at left it lafayette. Has america come far enough to renew its promises . And you see that we need to galvanize all the energy that has come to make sure that the young people should be included in this protest . How far have we come . Reverend lafayette we have come a long ways. Dont make any mistake about it. We have come a long ways. There was a time when you look at what is behind me and you dont see two sidewalks. Here in selma, alabama when i first came in 1962 to start the board of Registration Campaign there were two sidewalks. And that is white have such a wide sidewalk now because it was a lower sidewalk and an upper sidewalk. And we knew who the lower sidewalk was four. Right across the street, i went into a barber stop shop. They were all black barbers. I took a seat, thinking i could get a haircut trade and these black barbers turned the other way. One of them finally came over and said, this barbershop is for whites only. Black barbers only cut white hair. I didnt believe it. When i look at the progress weve made, even in our economic development, we have a long way to go, but we do have some measures of success. Not to mention, the president of the United States 50 years ago, it could not have happened. 50 years later, i am amazed that we have a twoterm president who is africanamerican. We have made an important statement as a country. We have to continue to work at this thing. If we dont continue to step forward, we will go backwards. Because the world is moving. To stand still is to go back. We have to keep moving forward. Thats what the movement is about. Moving forward, recognizing those changes we still have to make. Host a commemoration today on the 50th anniversary of bloody sunday. Call American History tv at reverend lafayette, you were in selma, alabama several years right or to the marches, the events that happened in march of 1965. Tell us how you ended up in selma, alabama p we heard the story about the x on the map marking selma off. You went anyway. What is the story there . What happened is those of us from asheville had decided that since we had the sit in movement and we continued the freedom rides, once we started the freedom rides, we decided if we would give a fulltime for a couple of years, it would be like the peace corps, boots on the ground, so to speak. Community service. We started to go to work on boat registration as part of our response ability for committee service. We went to the rural areas where you had a large number of blacks who were not registered to vote even though they might have had the majority of the population. I decided i would drop out of school for a couple of years. I came down to atlanta, georgia and decided i would become director james forman had decided he was going to give me directorship. But, when we went to get the directorship, he said i have an urgent need to get people out of jail in louisiana. Need to raise money. I went to detroit and chicago to raise money. I returned and he said im sorry, there are no more directorships. What do you mean . We looked on the wall, the map and there was an x through selma. He said we are not sending anybody to selma. Why not . He said, we already sent two teams of six workers to selma and they came back with the same conclusion. What was that . They decided nothing can happen in selma alabama because the white people were two main and the black people were too afraid. Too mean. Nothing will happen. I began to remember, when did i first hear about selma . One of the first places first times i heard about selma was when we were on a freedom ride the bus was coming from Montgomery Alabama and was going to jackson mississippi. The National Guard, Alabama National guard were armed and they said we could not go through selma. Because there was a mob of 2000 people working waiting at the bus station here in selma. The National Guard did not want to go through selma. We bypassed selma on a decoy bus and we carried on to mississippi. Thats what i remember first about selma. When i took on this project, i said im curious how about we go to alabama . If you want to take a look, you can take a look at it and see what you think. I dont want to take a look at it. I will take it. If possible, that is my assignment. I took it on and i did Extensive Research on selma, alabama and the county before i went in. I needed to find out what was hoping kelly are about selma. What was so peculiar about selma. It was not the same as birmingham or montgomery. One of the characteristics was that selma was smaller and everybody knew everybody. There was a close relationship. There were no homes or churches bombed in selma. They had mortgages on the church. If you bond the church you did not have that. The other thing that was very peculiar was that people had generations of family that were close to each other, black and white. The black families were not they developed these relationships. They went to each others funerals. That was the only time they came together, the church. People were very loyal. They had instilled so much fear into the black people until the black people themselves participated in helping other black people stay in their place. That was the attitude and the climate i found when i came to selma, alabama. Host he mentioned the student nonviolent coordinating committee. One of the Voting Rights activists in alabama and organizers of the selma to montgomery marches. Today, the commemoration, 50 years later selma bloody sunday at the bridge are president obama will be speaking later today and we will have that for you live. At 2 00 p. M. Eastern time. Lets take a few more calls. Joyce is on the line in inglewood, california. What is your question . Caller my question for him is, after 50 years or 400 years why is it that we are citizens of this United States, pay taxes, do what we do and we still have a hard time voting . People can come from other countries and get drivers license. I dont understand that. What we experienced is a Third Generation syndrome. Its not enough to understand that there is a problem. Its important to understand the genesis of the problem. What things have allowed the problem to exist . You can have a headache, but unless we understand the cause of the headache, we have not solved the problem. We have to find the cause and the care. The question is, how do we care this problem cure this problem . The Third Generation syndrome the first generation simply want to come and continue to have their religion, have their culture, have their dress code their food and music, all those characteristics. The second generation, they simply want to assimilate. The Third Generation is that generation that goes back and looks at the roots. Look at the origin, which child we came from, what was slavery like . What did people experience there and slavery . Then, we have people we experienced that Third Generation wearing he keys and having afros and changing names of our children. We wanted to go back to our roots. The white people in many cases want to go back to the roots of their cofounders. They remember when they were in charge of black folks. They remember when black folks were not considered human beings. They also believed that black folks did not have souls because they were slaves. Many of them are going back to those days when their own family members were actively involved in the ku klux klan. Once we understand that, then we get to the root of the problem. We need a massive Reeducation Program across the board. It needs to be in our School Systems and every institution and also needs to be in our media. We have to train our young people that this is not acceptable. We have to get people to learn how to stand up and stand together. That is how we are able to accomplish these things we did in the movement in the 1960s. We stood together. Went to jail together, die together. If they dont understand they are brothers and sisters we either have to become brothers and sisters in the together and live together or we live separately and die as fools. That educational part is extremely important. Not just to sit down in different sections of the bus or restaurant. We have to have some meaningful dialogue. Thats why this program is so important. Host we are live in selma, alabama today at the foot of the admin prentice bridge, the site of bloody sunday. The first attempted march from selma to Montgomery Alabama. Joining us today is reverend Bernard Lafayette, one of the Voting Rights activists and organizers in alabama. One of the organizers of this march. Isaiah in fayetteville, georgia appeare. Caller what do you think the root of this evil has come from european people where they hate black people after we built this country on our back . I am a spiritual man myself. Do you think god has sent us a prophet like you sent the children of israel to get out of this hell hole of north america . I have to search my mind and be able to understand those whites who harbor that hate. Why is it that they hate us . I know that we did not decide which race we were going to be born in. We did not decide which country, we did not decide the times and we will not decide the time we want to die. I could have been born white. I could have been born in rural georgia or alabama. I have to look into the soul and heart of the mind of these people who behave that way towards us. Then i have to say, what does it take to bring about changes. I have embraced nonviolence what Martin Luther king taught it we have to shortt. We have to show them how to love one another. We have to teach people to love one another. We have seen this kind of hatred. We have seen the results of it. We say to the silent majority of people who stand by and do nothing but when we see injustice towards one person its a threat to all of us. We have to see ourselves as being affected by these kinds of conditions that exist. We have to stand up against that hatred. They have to see the hatred will not succeed in a couples and their goals. Accomplishing their goals. Thats when we can make a difference. Its true that some people will die with hatred in their hearts. I have lived long enough to see some change. I have seen people who hated other folks and i see them turn around. We have to continue to be convinced that the Promised Land is going to come. And we have to do everything we can do with our lives to make it come soon and not later. Host another call for Bernard Lafayette from maria in washington, d. C. Caller thank you. Why do you continue to perpetuate the randomness of racism when the challenge of blacks is the immorality in music and videos, not teaching kids to respect the tradition of our lossaws, not insisting their kids use proper english or teaching them that giving back is important . Im a teacher. I have an africanAmerican History project. Guess who did the project . The white kids and one black. Why cant we teach these kids to Love Learning instead of perpetuating the randomness of racism and holding up signs . Thats what i mean by education. It can only happen when people learn how to educate other people. And share that. Education means not beating something in some of his head or criticizing them or their actions. Education means bringing the best out of others. The question has to be asked are we educating our young people . Are we bringing the best out of them . One of the important things is people need to learn that they can live together and work together. If you find black children are not volunteering in community projects, ask the question, why . Why they dont participate. Dont stop there in terms of why. You have to begin to find something that is interesting and exciting that they can participate in. One of the projects we started is we are going to have a Birthday Party for young people under 18. When they turn 18, we will celebrate. We will celebrate when they get their Voter Registration cards and theyre going to have a once a month Birthday Party for all those who turned 18 that month. Not only turn 18 and get a Voter Registration card, we will set up Voter Education projects so they can learn how to participate in government. Its not enough to just register to vote. They have to be able to know who was running for office and not just vote for somebody because they have the same family name. We are voting for people because of their commitment, the record and their proven and tried efforts to bring about change. Education is the key thing. Host reverend Bernard Lafayette joining us from selma, alabama today. President obama speaking there. We will hear from john lewis introducing the president. John lewis beaten on bloody sunday as the marchers attempted to go from selma to Montgomery Alabama. 50 years ago today, what was known as bloody sunday. Local Police Stopped the marchers. There was another subsequent march called turnaround tuesday and then some days later, march 21, the actual march successfully completed over. You were part of the organization. Tell us about that sequence. Bloody sunday occurred. What was turnaround tuesday . What was that about . Im so glad you asked that question. There has been some criticism of Martin Luther king because he ledhost from 1965 in Montgomery Alabama. A live look here in selma the ri. You have to have a strategy. What is a strategy . It is a plan of action that can accomplish the goals you are trying to reach. Protest is simply complaining about the problem. Strategy is helping to solve the problem. Turnaround tuesday, once you have bloody sunday, Martin Luther king appeals to people all around the country to come and join so we can continue the march to montgomery from selma. While people are in route, there was an injunction in federal court. Judge johnson. Whenever an injunction is issued , you have to wait until that Court Hearing to determine whether or not the courts are going to uphold that. Therefore, as Martin Luther king continued this march across that bridge one of the reasons why they got across the bridge is because of the city of selma is on the other side of the bridge. You are in the county. Therefore, you get the sheraton involved and you have state police involved. The sheriffs involved. He decided he would not violate that federal injunction because the march was about getting the federal government to protect the march is because the State Government was the ones attacking the people. Therefore, when he turned around , he refused to violate the federal injunction. And he waited. We can always march later. You dont want to violate a federal injunction. The other strategy was this. You can never successfully defeat a revolution unless you split the army. You have to split the army of your opponents. The federal government could provide federal troops. Usually when federal troops come in, they come into backup the state troopers and the county police and city police and all the other Law Enforcement officials. We were appealing to the federal government to bring troops in to protect us from those who were in Law Enforcement. We could see this because we continued that march with the protection of federal troops all the way to the capital of alabama. Host another call. Jillian in long beach, california. Caller hello, reverend Bernard Lafayette im interested in your strategy that you guys are enacting or that you should be in acting to make sure that the states with the voter id laws make sure that people get the necessary documentation they need to get this voter id. What are you guys going to do . First of all, we must understand that our United States constitution does not provide a standard for people to be able to register to vote. It is decided by the state. We live in different states or we have different drivers licenses and tests. What we are same with our butter registration act is the federal government has the responsibility to make sure that whatever standard or whatever requirements the states have cannot be discriminatory against other people based on race or economic condition or whatever. It must be equally applied. That is the issue, whether they are equally applied. We have an amendment to the constitution that changed the constitution. It was a regulation that the states have. What we have to do is make sure the voter rights act stays in place until the problem is solved. An act is temporary. Thats why we have to vote every 10 years or five years to renew the voter rights act because the act is not a permanent part of the constitution. We have to make sure that people are not being discriminated against, women are not being discriminate against, people of color are not being this committed against. Being discriminated against. You hadeven the age difference in the states. We had to come together to say this is discriminatory to let people of one age and then in another state, another age. We must look carefully at the conditions that now exist as it relates to the criteria of foreboding and gerrymandering four votinr voting and gerrymandering and make sure the Voting Rights act has teeth and it. In it. If there is no enforcement, the act doesnt mean anything. Host we are live in selma, alabama. What do you hope to hear from the president today when he speaks . I hope that the president will speak in a way to give confidence to our young people who have been involved in this struggle. They need to hear from the president that our office of the president is concerned about their condition and their plight. I want to hear him say he is going to use the power of his office to ensure that every one of us, black, white, young, old is going to get the best support from the federal government. I want the president to say that this movement is not just about crossing a bridge and making a historic statement, but a statement for the future that not only will we cross this bridge, we are going to cross every bridge and every barrier and every obstacle that keeps us from reaching our goals. Host Bernard Lafayette was one of the leaders of the Voting Rights movement in alabama. The march was 50 years ago. He is the coauthor of in peace and freedom. Thank you for joining us today on American History tv. My pleasure. Host john lewis one of the key organizers of the selma to montgomery Voting Rights march in 1965. We will be back to selma shortly. We will show you abc News Coverage of his remarks and a rally at the Alabama State capital in montgomery on march 25. I am delighted to present to you now, one of the finest young men i have had the privilege of knowing in my life. Like myself, he is a product of alabama. He comes to the spotlight and has assumed leadership in this nation from just 50 miles away down in troy alabama. Let us hear the leader of the courageous students of the student nonviolent coordinating committee, mr. John lewis. [applause] my fellow Freedom Fighters as a native of troy, alabama just 50 miles from here, i am happy to be able to stand here and share this great moment in history. With men like Martin Luther king and other great men in this great march and struggle for freedom. This is the greatest and perhaps most significant demonstration in the history of the civil rights movement. Just a few weeks ago governor wallace said there would be no march. He used our troops to be dust down on march 7. Beat us down on march 7. You headacyou said you had a constitutional right to march and you did march. The president of the United States made it clear to the American People and also made it Crystal Clear to the governor that the state of alabama is still a part of the union. We the negro people of alabama have been denied, and dehumanized by the vicious system of racial segregation and discrimination. Thousands of you have gone to jail over and over again in marion and selma. Today, you stand here as a living witness to the fact that you are to be free and you are to be free here and now. The president of the United States made it clear that we will get a voting law based on one man, one vote. All the negro people of alabama will be able to register and vote. I know that many of you have tried. You are tired of being beaten, arrested and jailed simply because you want to be free. Some of you have laid the tracks , picked the cotton, cook the food and nursed the babies for low pay or no pain at all. No pay at all we will stand up to governor wallace that we are tired of being voiceless and tired of being invisible in the political arena. We want to participate in this government and we want to do that right here and now. [applause] within a system when any system denies a people the right to vote, it is not asking for a battle but demanding a war. We are involved in a nonviolent war. We are involved in a nonviolent revolution. We dont have guns. We dont have billy clubs. We dont have to guess. The only thing we have is our bodies. Our tired feet. We dont have teargas. Our weary bodies will take us to victory right here in the state of alabama right in the heart of the as we lead this march today, we must go back to the county courthouse and attempt to register to vote. The state of alabama and the negro people of this state will never be the same. We are making it clear all over the world, not just in this state and in this nation, that our struggle is a struggle for freedom and liberation. Matter not whether its in selma or greenwood or mozambique or johannesburg the struggle is the same as a struggle for human dignity. A lot of people across this country are saying that we are tired. Too many people have been beaten , too many people have been shot and even killed. We have had enough of that. We have had a confrontation but now is the time for us to make some serious decisions. [applause] host from 1965 in Montgomery Alabama. A live look here in selma the ri bridge the march attempting to cross this bridge 50 years ago today was met headon by Alabama State police and local Police Officers who stopped the march. Bloody sunday took place. The march did eventually occur later. You heard john lewis who spoke at the end of the march. That speech you just a was from abc News Coverage of that day and of the events surrounding the selma to montgomery march. We will show you at the end of our live Coverage Today three plus hours of abc News Coverage from 1965. Coverage of bloody sunday. The site seen around the country. Teargas, clubbings of marchers. Here we are 50 years later in selma, live from selma, alabama. The president of the United States will be speaking this afternoon at about 2 00 eastern time. John lewis will be introducing him. Yesterday, Debbie Wasserman schultz tweeted out a picture of herself and congressman lewis along with Andrew Goodman of the Andrew Goodman foundation gi. Again, eight week from Debbie Wasserman schultz a tweet. Coming up in 10 minutes, we expect to start hearing some of the speaking program in selma. We will bring that live. In the meantime, we would like to get your comments. You can join us at 2027488900. If you live in the pacific time zone 202748 8901. Patricia, you are on the air. Caller i signed a petition recently online for a change name this bridge was originally named after the alabama grand dragon of the kkk. This name change would help heal psychological wounds from injustices met on this bridge. Thank you very much. Host thanks for the call. Rodney in california. Go ahead. Caller hello . Host you are on the air. Caller good morning. I was curious, the great divide we still have been this nation with the police departmentss misconduct etc. , everyone seems to be worried about what barack obama will be speaking about this morning. What about the rest of our leaders . They have the time to host other prime ministers Like Netanyahu but they dont have time to show up in selma. How come they dont show up to help pull us together more . This would be great if they would show up and help destroy this great divide in our country. Thats all im saying. They have time to host other folks. Why not come and help us out here . Host the previous caller was referring to the admin pettis bridge Edmund Pettus bridge. It was named after a former confederate Brigadier General and the grand dragon of the alabama ku klux klan. An article from politico referring to what our last caller was talking about. Gop leaders skip selma event. Scores of u. S. Lawmakers are converging in tiny selma alabama for a large gathering renee is next in florida. You are on the air. Go ahead. Caller thank you, cspan. I love watching you guys. It is very educational. Why cant the president or the Congress Just an act aenact a law where the voters dont have to keep being renewed . The governors in all of the states need to reinstate the Voting Rights act for felons who have done their time and want to come out of prison and live a productive life. They should be able to vote when they are registered to vote. Thank you very much. Host president Lyndon Johnson signed the Voting Rights act a few months after bloody sunday. The signing of the Voting Rights act taking place on august 6 1965. Taking a few more phone calls while we wait for the speaking program to begin life in selma. Ryan on the line from fredericksburg, virginia. Caller i want to make a comment about i think it is great whats going on. It makes me proud to be an american. Thank you. Host mark in pasadena, california. Caller hello there. Thank you for taking my call. I want to make a comment i lived through this era. I was only 15 years old at the time but i remember it well. We have come quite a ways but there is still so much more to do, especially now that we have a Republicancontrolled Congress intent on keeping down voting amongst the minority population in the young people and students. They will not accept a student but they will accept membership within the National Rifle association. That is clearly the demographic they are targeting, but to keep down student voting. Because they vote more democratic. Of course, the voter id to keep down the black voting. There are videos i saw on some shows where they should politicians bragging about how it has kept down the black voting by at least 5 . Where is the Justice Department in all of this . We have a long ways to go. Host thanks for calling, mark. Another picture from usa u. S. News. Landmark bridge at center of obama visit. We are live today in selma alabama. President obama will be speaking at the commemoration, the 50th anniversary of bloody sunday when Voting Rights marchers attempted to cross the bridge in your picture now. Attempting a march from selma to Montgomery Alabama 50 years ago and were met headon by state troopers and local police and were not able to make the march. It did eventually take place march 21 through the 25th. Taking your calls while we wait for the speaking portion of the program to get underway. You will have live coverage of that in the president s remarks coming up at 2 00 p. M. Eastern time. The numbers on your screen we go to utah, salt lake city, susan, you are on the air. Caller i would like to see the bridges name changed to Martin Luther king bridge. Host jamaica, new york. Go ahead. Caller thank you for taking my call. Im so surprised that i got through. I wanted to call because i just turned 72 years old. I was part of all the changes in the 1960s. I am from the south, north carolina. The reason i wanted to make a statement is that Charity Begins at home. We need love right here. We need to love the jewish people and everything we are not going to let anything happen to them. We want our Congress People to participate in our emotional feelings here in the country. The black people who suffered so much. We want healing here and we would like for them to show more love and respect for our situation. Particularly about this 50th anniversary. The march on the bridge. Thank you so much. Host william in eureka california. Go ahead. Caller good morning. Im surprised i got on your dime 71 years old. Im 71 years old. I was in sixth grade and my best friend was a black girl. That would have made me 10, 11 12 . I asked if she wanted to see my chickens at my dads and she said yes so she came home with me and played with the chickens and as we were leaving, my parents came home and my dad got out of the car and called her all kinds of bad words and i stood there shocked. I did not have a clue. She went home crying and i went in the house and my parents never said a word to me except my dad. He said dont you ever, blah blah blah. I have had to live with that. I drove a greyhound for 50 years. A lot of the drivers are black. Some of them are my best friends. All im trying to say is that this stuff is inbred in people. Im so ashamed of my own parents. Thank you. Host talking about the coverage from selma, alabama from 50 years ago. We will be showing that to you after our live Coverage Today of this 50 year commemorative event with the president and other speakers in selma. Three plus hours of abc News Television coverage from 1965 in selma, alabama. Other newspersons returning today as pbs News Reporter bill pla returns to selma 50 years after covering the civil rights marches. Bill plante is returning to alabama for the weekends commemoration. He was a 27yearold reporter in 1965 who bore witness to police tear gassing and beating demonstrators on the bridge in selma. He later interviewed Martin Luther king in a separate march. A number of dignitaries in selma today, as are dozens of members of the house and senate. We will hear from john lewis congressman from georgia who was part of the march. The organizer of the march, who was been on this day 50 years ago. He will introduce president obama this afternoon. That program is set to get underway at 2 00 p. M. Eastern. Back to your phone calls comments about this commemoration and the event 50 years ago. Kiki in new york. Go ahead. Caller i have a remark. It is a shame that the bridge is not named for selma because it is a historic thing. It should go back to selma. That is the proper name. When i heard about selma, it is very historic. All those who are not there its a shame. They have been suffering for so many years. When i saw the documentary, i was crying so much. It is very, very sad. Especially the congress. I guess they feel bad about themselves. Thats why they are not there. Host stephen in west palm beach, florida. Caller thank you very much. Im a 70yearold who was most upset with the use of the congress by the israeli prime minister. I am ashamed that the leadership of the congress is not in selma for this truly historic american experience. They should be ashamed. Host jean in york, pennsylvania. What is on your mind . Caller i would like to say that i am glad we are celebrating this historical event in our lives. I would like to say because of that, if we would have exercised our right to vote properly, we would not be experiencing some of the pitfalls we are having with congress and their representatives. Our presented its. I hope this day will remind people that we as African Americans have to treasure our right to vote and we need to be more involved with not only the president ial race but every form of government. We need to voice our opinion and let our vote count. Host a bit of history about selma, 50 miles west of montgomery. The city of selma incorporated back in the year 1820, was named by a future Vice President of the United States. Selma was a main Confederate MilitaryManufacturing Center during the civil war. Produced the confederate iron union forces captured and burn much of the city in 1865. The bridge built in 1940. Robert, you are on the line with us on American History tv. Caller thank you so much for taking my call. I agree with the prior caller. I feel the gop, john boehner and his crew should certainly be here on this day. If we are going to have a foreign leader from israel, which we do support fully, at least they could have showed the same respect for this day in selma. Thank you for taking my call. Host tosha in macon, georgia. Caller thank you for accepting my call. The name on the bridge, they were saying change the name. That name that i see on the Television Screen is like a banner to me that we the people that crossed that bridge overcame the bridge name itself. That should be a monument to show that we overcame every time you look at that bridge coming you will think about the name anyway. Changing the name to me is not a big deal. Changing the opinion of the people is the most important thing. Host darlene in newport news virginia. Caller thank you for taking my call and thank you for the supporters i have a question. It is quite disturbing to me i want to know why White America has such disdain for black america. We have been in this country together for eons. There is still no peace, no respect, not even for our president. I have heard Public Comments that would never be made it he were a white president if you were a white president. Whatever grudge they have against black america we live together in this country in peace and love and respect. There isnt any. Just as our children are being publicly killed this is crazy. It is crazy to me. I pray to god that there be peace in north america and all over the world where there are problems like this. It doesnt make any sense. Host selma, 50 years later. We are live in selma, alabama on cspan3s American History tv. Seeing the sights and sounds as we await the music prior to president obama who will be addressing the crowd at the foot of the Edmund Pettus bridge. We will have that for you live on cspan3, American History tv continues. Some of the historic coverage from abc news back in 1965 with three plus hours of coverage of the selma to montgomery march from abc. Lets go back to the phones. Lisa in louisiana. You are on American History tv. What is on your mind . Caller good afternoon. I was calling because i heard a teacher earlier talking about that black kids dont have respect. Host are you there . Sounds like we have i apologize. Your call was dropped. Here are the sights and sounds in selma alabama as we wait for the program to begin. Commemoration, 50 years later of bloody sunday. Todays date, march 7 1965, Voting Rights marchers attending to make a march from selma to the state capital in montgomery, alabama, met by state troopers and police. Many were beaten, tear gas canisters were fired. The march came to an end. On tuesday, there was the famous on tuesday, there was the famous turnaround tuesday where they turned around and prayed, waiting for a federal injunction to take place. And then the successful march finally on march 20th through the 25th escorted by army troops and federalized Alabama National guard from march 21 through the 25th, 1965. While we wait for the program to begin, more calls. Barbara in bridgeport, connecticut. Caller hi, im just very saddened. I was 16 years old. Im 66 now. I think this is very sad that we are still going through this. I thought all of this would actually be behind us. I went through malcolm x. , when he was assassinated. It was on television. Im a member watching that life, his funeral. I can remember when kennedy got shot. I can remember the night that Martin Luther king got killed. And all of this stuff, i thought was behind us. And now, my grandchildren, it is sad to say that they have to go through this and im just very saddened that we are still biting fighting to vote . Writing to vote. This is ridiculous. Host you obviously feel there is not enough progress that has been made. What do you think are the next steps . Caller frankly, i just dont know what in the world its going to take. What gives the white race the right that we have to fight to vote . Who knows better than we are what makes them think we have to go through this marching and begging and pleading all over again . I will tell you what i actually do think. I think its going to take an actual civil war between the black and the white, thats what i think, to stop this nonsense. We are going to have to have a war. You think isis is something, but we are having our own problems right here. We cannot solve the problems in other countries until we can solve our own problems right here. Host all right, thanks for the call. We will go back to philadelphia, pennsylvania, patrice, youre on the air. Caller thank you for taking my call. I wanted to comment on the Historical Context of today and bring it to where we are now in america. A lot of people talk about how they are surprised that none of the gop is attending and how they are surprised by how some members of congress are behaving. It really shouldnt be much of a surprise, given hostility in america against blacks and given the fact that after obama was elected, all of hostilities started to resurface, similar to what happened in the 1960s. People should not be said that the gop is not there. Right now, the gop, they are trying to hold onto the old good old days, according to them, what america was, when black people kind of state in their place. They are playing to that base. The fact that they are not in attendance should not be a surprise to people. I think what we need to focus on is the overall picture and the fact that the world is changing. Its becoming more black and brown. More diverse. And its maybe scaring some white people but america is a diverse nation and we will have to live learn how to live with each other. Nothing is changing. These are moving forward. Things are progressing. Obama pretty much symbolizes that the world is becoming more diverse, more black and brown more day, more equal in regards to womens rights. We are not going to go back to the good old days. Host thanks for your call. On your screen, you have been watching some of the historic footage of the selma to montgomery, alabama march of 1965. Today is the anniversary of bloody sunday in selma. We are live today for the commemoration of that event and we will hear from president obama shortly at about 2 00. The speaking program with the president will get underway and we will have that here for you on American History tv. John lewis, who was part of the march, and now congressman john lewis, will be introducing the president. More of your calls, sheila on the line in norfolk, virginia. Caller im calling just to voice my opinion that the struggle does not just stop. It has always been placed in our hands. When our fathers and mothers sat with us and showed us the things that happen on the tv in the 1960s, i can remember my greatgrandmother explaining all of this to me. I feel like we as society, we need to pick up with our grandchildren come our children, and let somebody know. Just like the jews, they dont stop generic is about holocaust. Dont stop teaching their kids about the holocaust. We need to teach our family, and extended family about black history, and not just black History Month to month but everything will day. And it continues until we all appreciate each other and learn to come together like they did for civil rights. That is just my opinion, one black woman, trying to raise her family properly. I challenge you, step up and be the leader that these people were for us in the 1960s. Host thank you. Ted in penrose, colorado, what are your thoughts . Caller yes, i would like to see the president and some of the leaders take advantage of this generation this situation with all of them being together at that site, and call for everyone to get together again and get people off their couches and onto the street and work together. It is not just a thing of color. It is an economic problem. There are poor wife of latinos there are poor whites, or latinos, for indians who were latinos, or indians, and we need to get together and have a renewal of the spirit that existed in 1960s. Everyone has gotten too complacent. Everyone is pretty much just happy to go about the day today and they will comment on stuff but when it gets comes to getting out and doing something about it, you know, if we would all vote, we would not have these tuitions. These situations. I just want everyone together as people, not necessarily as blacks or white or latinos but joined together as people who want to have a voice in the way this country is run. That is all i have to say. Host makes very much for calling. We are alive and elma, alabama we are live in selma, alabama, on the 50th anniversary of what came to be known as bloody sunday. Clayborne carson is the director of the Martin Luther king jr. Research and Education Institute at Stanford University and also author of Martin Stream martins dream. We invite you to call and ask questions of professor Clayborne Carson. We heard part of the speech that Lyndon Johnson made shortly after bloody sunday. He addressed congress on Voting Rights. What was lbj thinking on Voting Rights prior to event in selma . Guest he wanted Voting Rights no question. For him, it was a question of timing. That is what brought it there. Martin is a king met with him and it was not the right time. The young people in the Voting Rights campaign made sure it was time. They reminded johnson that they were setting the timetable, not the president. Host where were you on bloody sunday . And when you heard about bloody sunday, what was your reaction . Guest i was in los angeles going to ucla at the time. I remember the reaction myself, and many of the people i knew, was anger. We wanted to do something. We wanted to come and protest. Instead, we decided to protest at the Federal Building in los angeles. We basically shut the Federal Building down for a short time in order to make it clear that the federal government had to react on behalf of the Voting Rights marches in selma. Host mark luther, where was he 50 years ago today . Martin luther king, where was he 50 years ago today . With his role in the marches . What was his role in the marches . Guest Martin Luther king decided to make it an issue after getting the nobel peace prize. The Voting Rights campaign was already underway. Of course, what happened on bloody sunday was, Martin Luther king was in atlanta dealing with the affairs of his church, while a group of marchers left selma over the bridge, and of course that was the famous confrontation on the other side of the bridge. And Martin Luther king was somewhat embarrassed that he was not here, but he promised to come back and lead another march the following tuesday. Host tell us about that. That was turnaround tuesday. What was Martin Luther kings idea for turnaround tuesday after four tuesday . Guest first, he thought he could lead a march, and after negotiations with the federal government they commit sin that if they waited until the following tuesday, they would be able to they convinced him that if they waited until the following tuesday, they would be able to march with the authority of the federal judge. He decided not to trust the troopers on tuesday, and that led him to make that decision to turn back and go back to selma. That upset a lot of people. That was one of kings crucial decisions, and it was very controversial. I remember in his own memoir, the autobiography of Martin Luther king, gathering together all of his autobiographical writings, he spends a lot of the chapter defending that action. Because some people charge that it was of a trail of the march to turn around. But i think he made a somewhat convinced that it was a betrayal of the march to drive around. But i made a somewhat convinced case convincing case. The next march ended up to be much more successful. We will just never know what happened on the tuesday march. Host professor Clayborne Carson is joining us on American History tv today. I would like to invite the viewers to join us. The numbers are on the screen. And you can join the conversation on facebook and twitter as well. Lets go to the phone lines. Maddie has been holding on from macon, georgia. Do you have a question or Clayborne Carson . Caller for Clayborne Carson . Caller actually, i dont. I just wanted to say the irony of bloody sunday on that bridge is inescapable. And i also want to say that although we try to cover it up, history cannot be erased, no matter whose history or no matter how ugly. I think my auntie lou said it best when she said history cannot be unlit, but a face if faced with courage, will not have to be lived again. Host thanks for the call. Guest this bridge is not famous for edmund pettis, but what happened here 50 years ago. I hope that a name change is in the works. Host lets go back to the calls. Louisiana, doc is joining us for Clayborne Carson. Caller good day to you and have a Beautiful Day out there. Being a retired navy man of the 1960s and a vietnam veteran, my contribution to be a part of the Human Relations Program for the navy was my commitment to help the program that Martin Luther king was a part of. I also want to make a statement that i want to commend the 71yearold man from vallejo about the family that treated the young black girl with racism. It took a lot of strength and intestinal fortitude to Say Something like that about their family. Have a good day down there. Host naked for the comment. Thank you for the comment. Clayborne carson joining us. Johnny from decatur, alabama. Go ahead. Caller i just want to ask you, professor, do you think there is more that could begun instead of just once a year, once a month that could be done instead of just once a year, once a month . Guest well, i think the greatest commemoration we could stage would be to increase the number of voters. Black americans and young americans, and a lot of americans who favor social change would vote in larger proportion. Maybe bring it up to 80 or 90 as close to 100 as we could get. We could change the face of american politics. A lot of the politics is not decided by those who go invoke but those who stay home. Host how has selma changed in the last 50 years . Guest it has changed a lot even from the first time i was here in the 1970s. The Voting Rights museum, the commemorations that have previously taken place i think we have almost reached the point and i dont know that we are there yet, that americans on the whole can take pride in these kinds of commemorations. It is not just a predominately black crowd. When i came here today i was driving down with another person and the traffic got so bad, i had to get out of the car and start walking. And when i did that, some students on a bus recognized me. I guess they had been studying one of my books. And they came out of the bus and we started our own march. Even today, and these were people of various races who were studying the Voting Rights movement in their classes and wanted to be here. And they were brought by some of their teachers from Butler UniversityButler University. I called the march from nowhere into selma to commemorate the selma to montgomery march. Host professor Clayborne Carson joining us live today in selma, alabama. This 50th anniversary of bloody sunday. Our live coverage continuing here on American History tv on cspan3 and simulcast on cspan radio across the country on xm satellite radio. Back to the calls jenny in south windsor, connecticut, go ahead for professor carson. Caller good afternoon. I just want to commend you. And im greatly appreciate that you are having this on tv. I would like to be more active in this elevation as well. I was wondering in this celebration as well. What do i need to do to find out information of what is going on right now . Guest well, one of the things that any person can do is, instead of taking the next vacation going to europe or going to a National Historic part site. Just yesterday i was in atlanta at keansburg home kings birth home. Come to montgomery and dexter Avenue Church working where k ing preached. Come to birmingham to the Civil Rights Museum there. Come to the national Civil Rights Museum. There are lots of ways. Also just read books. There is a wealth of literature about this. John lewis and so many others have written their stories. To me, it is one of the great freedom movements in Human History. And as i said before, the best way to commemorate it is to take an active role in determining the of this nation. In other words, be a citizen in the full sense of that word. Vote, take an active part in changing america for the better. And i think, that more than even commemorating an event, would honor king. Host so many people have connected to selma through the motion pictures, through the movie selma. Did the movie makers get it right . Guest i applaud the film makers. I applaud the fact that they made it. Yes, i think there were some things that were not exactly historically accurate, but that happens in all hollywood movies. The controversy shouldnt distract us from seeing the film. I told my students though, that if you can get your history from going to a movie for two hours i would tell my students to leave class and go to the movies for two hours. If you want to get a deeper view of history, read about it. Take a class in it. Right now, im developing an online class about Martin Luther king. Within a few years, it will be possible for people throughout the world to take the kind of glad that you would have to come to Stanford University to take. You can get access to this material wherever you are in the world. Host lets go back to the phone lines for professor clayborne cart Clayborne Carson. Neil is on the line from colorado. Caller hello, professor. Its changed so much in the United States, k12 and College Education should not be so involved in the push related to this issue. Do you think a graduation requirement should be a cultural proficiency, having the skills necessary to live among different people . Host neil broke up on a there. Broke up on us there. Guest what i got from it was what we need to do to educate people to help understand American History. Because i dont see the answer being pictures or an elective course on civil rights history or Something Like that. Its fine if you want to do it but i think American History on the whole if it was top of it should be taught, every american would know the importance of what happened here. It was not be something it would not be something that requires specialized study. All of this should be part of our common understanding that americans have of the long route to create the principles that were enunciated in the declaration of independence and make them real. If you look at the civil war you see that as a war, as lincoln said, to have a new birth of freedom in this country. And when king is talking at the microphone in washington and he says, its now time for us to make real, the promise make real the promise of democracy. That is what is happening protecting the union. If people understand it this way, then they understand is this is essential knowledge for any american. Host we have been watching some of the arrivals in selma alabama as he have been talking with professor Clayborne Carson. We will hear from the president later on today. You saw a few moments ago on the screen that attorney general eric holder. That reminds me to ask you about the significance of selma alabama to recent events in ferguson, missouri. Your thoughts . Guest well, i think if king were here, he would be reminding us that his dream is unfinished, it is unrealized. It will take more struggle to bring about that understanding that human rights is a global issue, and its an ongoing issue. We have achieved a great victory back in the 1960s. The fact that for the first time in Human History most people on earth, most of humanity had basic citizenship rights. We should celebrate that. Last summer, i went to zambia and they were salivating their independence. Throughout the world, you have people who have never practiced. It should ship practiced full citizenship. And in the decades after world war ii, that was a challenge. But now we face a different challenge. What are our rights as human beings . We should have rights that, as jefferson said in the declaration of independence he didnt say all americans are entitled to life liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. He meant all of humanity. We have to take that ideal which of course, was not true especially in jeffersons time when there was slavery. But we have to make that a reality and it will take more decades of struggle. But i think ferguson, the events there, or us of that. And i applaud the young people who have taken the incident, and all of the incidents, just like the one in wisconsin recently, all of these incidents have been lips on the media screen blips on the media screen. 99 of americans would have gone on the next day without giving it another thought. But because young people now dont allow them to do that combination is forced to confront the fact that we have not achieved these ideals. Host Clayborne Carson is joining us from the foot of the Edmund Pettus bridge. Back to the phones. George in brooklyn, new york your question for professor carson. Caller professor carson, thank you for being on cspan3 and thanks to cspan for having this program. As a professor in an institution as esteemed as stanford and being in a program where you are studying Martin Luther king, what do you think dr. King would be thinking today about the apathy of young people not involved in the political process or even simple civic duties in their community . And i speak to the high numbers of incarceration. Is it because their parents are absent and not teaching in the homes these values . Because we cannot continue like this. We can march a thousand marches. We could petition congress. The respect that we so need will not come to us just by simply marching. We have to do studies. And at stanford, i would really suggest that you linked with other institutions to study the effect on the disenfranchisement of minorities. Because we are heading for disaster. Someone made mention before you came on about the only way we will control the result is to have a civil war with white people. And that is a pandoras box. If you open that box, whos going to close it back on long will it take to close . Who is going to close it and how long will it take to close . Host professor . Guest its a big question, and what youre getting at is the fundamental question. Because to me, democracy is not a reality. Its an experiment. And we have to treat it that way. One of the things that happen in the 1960s was they were Voter RegistrationVoter Education classes being taught. Maybe we need citizenship education, or Democracy Education in order to get us out of this rut that we are in. I dont think weve made progress. I would agree with you that Martin Luther king would look forward because we achieved the Voting Rights act of 1964 and 1955, many people would say now we are full citizens and we can move ahead. But what we find is that simply open up the possibility. It was a piece of legislation doesnt change anything necessarily unless you use that as an opportunity to move forward. And i think we realize that and i think many of the young people realize now that this is not the promise land. This is simply a step along the way and we still need some strong leadership that is going to get us there. We still need more people to get more educated about the response abilities we have. We need to have people who understand that now the problems are global rather than local. And i hope that as i mentioned before that people in my position, you know i teach at a very elite university and it costs many tens of thousands of dollars to go there. What we are hoping to do is take that kind of education and make it available to everyone within with an internet connection. But that will still be simply a possibility unless people use those resources. Right now, you can go on the web and find information that was only available to maybe a dozen scholars when i began editing my mr. Kings papers 30 years ago. Now we can use that to provide Education Opportunities to vast numbers throughout the world. Host gloria joining us in diamond bar, california. What is your question for professor Clayborne Carson. Caller hello, professor garson. Im 80 years old and im africanamerican. My husband was military and we were stationed in england when all of this was going on. And if worse, what and of course when we came back to the country it was amazing to see what was happening. The buzz across the south and the reaction of most of the southerners that were there with us, they were so angry that the blacks were doing anything to help themselves