Kelly. Appreciate coming in. What about the idea of isis bringing the fight here . We certainly cant discount that. This is the real deal, a very big threat. They talk about the United States as the far enemy and theyd love to come here if we could. Are we prepared . You spent a lot of time as new york city commissioner makes sure this city was prepared post9 11, are we now . I think were doing everything we reasonably can do to protect new york and other big cities as well. There are no guarantees. We know that thousands of people have gone to syria, have learned a trade craft and have good paper, ability to travel, use passport. American passports in cases. American and european passports. So it certainly raises the concern level as far as an attack here. We always think about it and having the conversation in new york and you were the Police Commissioner in new york. I think you brought up this, other places think about it as well. Heres what the governor of texas rick perry had to say about borders being insecure. I think theres the obvious great concern that because of the condition of the border from the standpoint of it not being secure and us not knowing who is penetrating across, that individuals from isis or other terrorist states could be, and i think, is a very real possibility that they may have already used that. Is it a very real possibility or is that a domestic political issue and a governor using it maybe to make people concerned about a situation locally . A real possibility. It could be both. I think certainly, if theres operating assumption that we have to have that peopledom hurt us could come across the mexican border. The canadian border, right . The loss of entry points that are loosely guarded. Yeah, i think the threat level has gone up, though its remained relatively consistent since 9 11. Some people think its gone down. I dont think the Law Enforcement community or Intelligence Community thinks its gone down, with the reemergence of isis, training the foreign individuals to come here, and with this inspire magazine, which is an internet magazine that weve had 12 issues of. That is a how to magazine on how to commit terrorist acts, and used as far as the boston bombing. Was thinking of boston when you said that. Were going to talk about this and isis in the show. Some other topics we want to address, ferguson weve been talking about all week. And after going and protesting there, al sharpton is planning a protest in new york over a custody issue in Staten Island. And the new York Teachers Union is siding with sharpton, this is getting attention today. They offered Free Transportation for members to support the demonstration tomorrow. Your thoughts on that first all, talk about the incident on Staten Island. A pretty unusual split as far as the new york union world is concerned. The big issue in the Teachers Union separate from the police union. Usually in the controversial issues they will maintain a low profile. Do you think its appropriate . In this instance, i would prefer that they not be involved. You see this is antipolice, this protest. It is antipolice. They certainly have a right to demonstrate, hopefully it will go peacefully. Its surprising to see the unique alliance. What are your thoughts on this particular case, people are familiar with the focus on ferguson, maybe theyre not. Man at Staten Island who died in Police Custody and placed in what appeared to be a chokehold or bard, chokeholds by new york city standards are outlawed. Is that what happened . Is it as simple as that or more to it. It has to go before the grand jury. There are lots of witnesses. The officers have an opportunity to speak themselves. Something happened in the scrum, you might say. It was all on video. Lot of it was on video. We need the testimony of the people who were there to find out what happened, what was in the police of mind. I think the initial taking down a big person, 64, 300 something pounds, i saw that as appropriate. Speaking of appropriate, you would be somebody evaluating this if you were in your old position. When you say chokehold, are there definitions for police that know what the lay person is looking at. If theyre watching a video like that, may they be missing something that you are picking out. That is up to standards, something you pick up on. Pressure impedes breathing is a conventional understanding of what a chokehold is. Sure. Thats what again, as you said, youre not going to venture to say what happened in this. To the naked eye, that appears to be what happened with the officer in Staten Island. Well see, the protest will go forward. Another topic, the new mayor here bill de blasio at a crime data briefing which is another topic for mr. Kelly. The Police Department data shows shootings in new york up 13 this year compared to last. So this data and the story in the city is this data shows shootings go up as stop and frisk policy in place when you were and mayor bloomberg were in office is being phased out. Your thoughts. Not be all and end all. Lots of other operations in place. Operation crew cut on gangs, Operation Impact you have officers that saturate areas. Those have been kept in place, theyve been relabeled but still doing essentially the work that was done by the previous. Not a simple cause and effect. It is an important tool, and obviously Police Officers have reduced the use of this tool, and common sense says that eventually thats going to be more guns on the street because they are not taken away. Or if you are prone to carry a gun, have you indications that less likely to be stopped and questioned over it. You may carry that weapon. De blasio points out the overall trend in crime hasnt changed, maybe gone down, its the shootings. What shootings would go up as overall crime goes down. You need overall analysis of it. I would submit they keep programs in place from the previous administration, thats why crime continues to go down. And stop and question for us is an element, but not the answer to the crime issues. New york will be a place people are watching very, very closely this weekend. Thanks for coming in tonight. Former Police Commissioner of new york city. Something defense secretary chuck hagel said were all in the act for a long time to come. Youll hear it for yourself. Keep it here. We should expect isil to regroup and stage offenses. This has an apocalyptic end of days strategic vision. They are an imminent threat to every interest whether in iraq or anywhere else, which will eventually have to be defeated. Isil poses a threat. Connell defense secretary chuck hagel and Martin Dempsey painting a scary vision there. So should we be getting ready for a longterm offensive in iraq . Retired army colonel bob mcginnis joins us now and talking about syria with the comments we heard this week. But let me start by asking you, colonel. If we get to the point where the goal is we need to eliminate isis, that decision is made, how do we go about doing that . Well, you have to have people on the ground, in the air, you have to intercept finances, go after any resource that they have out there. And of course, you have to have the entire community of nations surrounding that vicinity and cooperation. Have you some, but clearly not all at this point. Connell let me take the ground operations first, a lot of people like to focus on, do we need boots on the ground. When you say we need troops on the ground, where . In iraq, syria . In both places in order to take on isis . And if the goal is to eliminate isis completely . To eliminate isis you have to look them in the eye and kill them. The reality is that isis is all the way from aleppo in western syria. Connell right. North of baghdad. So a large area. We have to have a coalition of capable fighters. Peshmerga has great capability. Iraqis have great capability. But its going to take more than that. You need the turks to go, in the jordanians and it would be nice to have a few other nations involved. Not just u. S. People. The involvement of u. S. People that you bring up, would that be in in order to be effective a fullscale Ground Invasion . Huge numbers of troops . Or smaller numbers of troops that allow us to carry out as were doing air strikes, more accurately or have more intelligence on the ground. What types of Ground Troops are necessary to move forward with that . The type of enemy we have is probably going embed itself in small towns, villages and the like. They have to be rooted out. Their numbers right now, depending whos giving you the estimate 10,000, maybe 15,000. As long as it doesnt grow extraordinary from that point, you have to take small teams and go after them wherever can you find them. You have to have good intel. Im not sure that the intel is the quality that we need right now, but, of course, we have people that are gathering that over in northern iraq, but as far as inside syria and where they are, especially eastern syria, im not confident about what we understand right now. Connell ive asked you up until this point all about tactics, that was your area of expertise. Youve done a nice job of telling us what we might need to do. In terms of analysis with the conversation of former new york Police Commissioner ray kelly and thoughts and concerns that there might be a threat from isis here in our country in the United States, factoring all that in and plus overseas, should we do this in your view . I think so. Al qaeda had a small group of people that penetrated our naivete years ago. These people are barbaric. They are the worst of the worst. They will do whatever necessary to kill us. We have to understand that. If we dont kill them there, theyll come here and kill us. Were you just for a point of context, people were against the initial invasion in iraq, and might be for something now. Where were you then . Where have we been in regard to iraq or what . Connell yes, in other words did you support the initial reaction in iraq or against it and now for this or now taking action because of whats happened . I worked with the iraqis before the war. I encouraged the u. S. Government directly with the iraqis to do it themselves, to go against saddam, and they once the bullets started to fly, of course, it was too late. Connell yeah. But right now, this is a threat. I think not only to that region but clearly across the globe, especially with the hundreds of thousands of selfidentified jihadists that are embedded with isis, theyll come home and come home with ak47s and killing mentality and go into malls and cities and wreak havoc. Connell thats what we were talking about a few minutes ago. Lieutenant colonel, appreciate it. Thank you. Connell will Illegal Immigrants bankrupt our schools. One arizona superintendent is speaking out. I know everybody misses neil on the program. This should hold you over until monday. You dont want to miss his one hour special, cyberwar game, inside look how training cybersoldiers of the future, thats tonight with neil cavuto thats tonight with neil cavuto only here on fox business. Imagine no possessions i wonder if you can no need for greed or hunger a brotherhood of man imagine all the people sharing all the world you you may say im a dreamer but im not the only one i hope someday youll join us and the world will live as one. Connell the first state proposal for illegal immigrant aid is out, but could it only be the beginning as california governor jerry brown and democrats are seeking 3 Million Dollars to help migrant kids seeking legal help. And this comes on the news that arizona superintendent is warning an influx of Illegal Immigrants could bankrupt the School System with the costs running over 50 Million Dollars. We have fox business allstars are on this, jolie, jonas and caylee mcc jonas is in the middle which is a good place politically to be. Stage managed strateggery there. Connell the situation in california . The arizona superintendent is spot on, but admitting the Illegal Immigrants to the country, we are obligated to give education. 10,000 students being legalized given legal status means 10,000 students into the School System, 50 Million Dollars out of the state and that takes away from our children, american citizens are suffering in a broken education system, spot on, on this. Kids are here regardless whether were happy about it or not. Whats the alternative . Connell what are we going to do with them now that they are here . Put them on the streets and commit themselves to lives of crime. They have no way to make money when they are older because they have no access to education. Thats not the argument about war, jonas, what do you think . Any kid into the School System is a burden on the system. The public system is paid for by people with big houses, yeah, its going to bankrupt the schools, prison costs more than schools deportation isnt free, they are here so they have the problem. We have another problem with not enough population growth to pay for social security. How can we have too little population growth and two more at the same time. Idealistically id love to welcome every child who wants to be in the country into this country, we cannot have 60,000 children running across your border. That number is set to increase. This has to be stopped. Children need to be unless they have legitimate asylum claims, they need to be matched up with parents and sent back. Rule of law means something in this country. Connell whats happening in california, you commit to spending more money on the people that are already here versus do you want to devote your resources to keeping the people who are not here. California, to your point, isuallyarki u eg letesylu that th 3 milon rs i fto leg lp t determine whether they acquire asylum. As jonas said, what are you going to do once the kids are determined to have asylum . Are you now not going to provide education for them . Are you going to say look, youre a fiveyearold kid . Sevenyearold kid . Youre on your own during the school day. What do you think theyre going to do if theyre not in school. Its not a problem, the problem exists because we cant make kids positive. Were never going to stop people from appearing. Connell t abo k in to through taxes, per kid tax to go into school, but the system has a hole in it, this is only exposing the system, more children. Connell regardless whether they are immigrant children ork. Not saying kids pay taxes, neither do kids. Theyre not my kid, other kids from el salvador, i dont want to pay for them. I dont have kids in my town. Connell like an 85yearold saying my kids are grown and i dont want to pay for the kids now. The skols cost less and doesnt bankrupt us. Education versus noneducation, if you are in the country, you are entitled to education. 60,000 children that have run across the border, that number is increasing where, does it end . Border enforcement has to mean something. We have border enforcement, we have a law that allows them in thanks to george bush and the republicans who voted for him. Connell we have much more for all three of you coming up. What about the celebrities . Have you seen this on tv all week long, speaking out about ferguson. The former entertainment anchor pat obrien is here on whether it would be just better to keep quiet . Connell so the situation in freezing getting attention from more than just politicians in the media. A number of celebrities have been weighing in on the issue. You have probably been seeing this. Spike lee, for example, did an interview. Here is part of what he said. I just hope that things will follow up of the people are not happy with the verdict of this upcoming trial. Former access hollywood host on may be whether this is smart for celebrities to weigh in. Also the author of a new book called my will be right back after this which we will talk about in just a moment. You know, Anderson Cooper had him on cnn. What do you make of all of these celebrities to back every time their is a big event, and i am sure you have dealt with it. People get asked about things and you wonder whether they should be. I talk about it in the book. I dont mean that to promote the book, but these entertainment shows, they hijacked people. No matter what is going on they will go to a premiere. No matter who you are or what your doing it will say, what about the ferguson thing. What i they going to do, walk away from that question . So when they do answer they will go on and say they can write to us for their opinion. They lie about it. That is tragic. Spike, you know what your getting. He is outspoken, and we love that. But, you know, you hope to get somebody on that knows what is going on. Connell you get people that legitimately go from entertainment to public service, but over the years have you run across some of these celebrities that are not worth asking about world events . Angelina jelly is one. I dont even want to say believe it or not because she is an ambassador and she knows her stuff. Right now the media is twisting the story. I should apologize to our but its not my fault. George clooney is great. Well educated upper much everything. You know, ben affleck, matt damon. The media, get some people on who are there. The best comments i ever read have been from school kids in the area who put it into perspective of how it affects their lives. And as young africanamerican boys and girls they can put some texture into it. Connell thats true of almost any story. When you go to the story. Somebody called killer mike a couple of days ago. Promoted him, some wrapper. He came out. I kept watching only because i was amused. I could not wait to see. He was terrific. He had a great perspective on it. But you cant just grabs celebrities of the red carpet and expect this to know everything. Connell your book. I am curious. I mean, i no my opinion on ferguson. Connell why not. Why would we do this segment and then not ask you after all that. Charles manson, the son of sam, Lee Harvey Oswald to all these people were handcuffed. Thats my perspective. Connell i know what your saying. We will watch to see how wacos and in. And the grand jury now looking into it. Let me ask you, if you take a minute while we have some to ask you about not necessarily the specifics to bother you can talk about that. Why you wrote it. Was it because of other people, yourself . I know you talked about substance abuse. Well, i wrote it because it first of all because i wanted my story to come out with my voice. There has been sothis guy. Its about the only get it got it right. But theres so much on with the plo. Plus, a book about redemption and hope and recovery. The messages that people who drink do stupid things. I have done a few. I am confident you have not. And alcoholics do really stupid things. So that is a 400 page book premises is and it is a happy ending. There is help for people out there. It is a brain disease. But outside of that the book has all the stories senate. It is a good right. The bottom line is i am alive and i am here. Connell im sure everybody is happy about that. A lot of good celebrity stories. I dont call anybody out, really. I might, you have to read it. Connell good to see you. Good luck with the book. Good perspective on those issues. We will have coming up in just a moment the story that was in the news this week about twitter aggressively removing images of james foleys death from twitter pages. But terrorist organizations are still very active on social media. So we will talk about that how and whether or not it is hypocritical coming up next. Connell next topic tonight is twitter taking on terrorism with the horrific images of james foleys murder by islamic militants telling viral. Began pulling down some posts and in some cases eliminating user council. A lot was made of it. Some critics saying if they are not taking a hard enough stance. The fox business all stars are back. Good to see you. And it is interesting you probably know this. Different social media platforms have different if you put something up on facebook it is hard to get away with it. Twitter basically everything is out there. The internet likes to go as far as they can. You know, they want to be free. They dont want. The reality. The government gets involved. Terrace. Connell just crazy people in general. You dont want to promote terror. Given this stage. You want to do more. On the other end of the public does not know what theyre doing, easier to recruit people. Making them look bad. Very easy tennessee both sides of this equation. The need to air on the side of less. Connell which is principally what they have tried to do over the years. You see this with robin williams, his daughter was on twitter and then walked away from it because people were just sending her terrible images after her father died. A poll those down question which is horrible, but i have to say im sure you get them, i certainly get horrible tweets on a daily basis. People just dont need them his daughter. Connell you would say you could block those people. You can block them or choose not to read them, but at the end of the day they have the right to send them. Its a lot greater. Obviously that is a criminal act. How very torn. In terms of, overall. Connell where would you draw the line . I think firmly at promoting terrorism and a. So they have preempted these messages. However, they have nonstop terrorist organizations. Hitler was right. There is no place for that type of speech. Nine, zero, no place on facebook with their calling for israeli massacres. Facebook sets its own standards. They have certain rules. By everyone standards. Connell companies will be able to say whatever they want. The question as we look in on them, lets say we are running twitter and having this conversation inside their board room. Connell what side of it would you take . What should we do . Where should we be . It will probably side on what generates the most traffic. There is an issue. Not as restrictive. Connell if theyre is a market, created. Too much screening. A third of the videos. Thats not legal. Draw the line. Who gets to draw the line . I agree. Before people started treating me crazy crab i think that is a First Amendment issue. I dont agree with it, but i think they should be allowed to say it. The use of twitter. Even ferguson, people organizing. There are uses where people are taking twitter and because they are allowed to say what they want theyre able to organize something that they feel is for the betterment of society or their cause. You start cutting down on that. This is a private company that sets standards. You cannot discriminate based on sex, race. If youre going to put that out there is your standard, follow through. There is no room for that. The Community Gets to comment. There is an upside to knowing where the evil lies. Right now people want to know how recesses this area. If all a speech was removed from the internet. Followthrough. Of what we get really, nasty, horrible tweets. Connell two are all these people . My point is, of all of us start saying i am offended then what, we will cut off . Im pretty sure. Check your time line encourage the protests of we have been seeing their becoming here . Here being the new york. Small businesses already are closing up shop. We will talk about that next. Hey check it out huh what happened to that guy . Hey, get that sign back up youre not alone, together we stand sndfx clapping ill be by your side you know ill take your hand sndfx clapping when it gets cold and it feels like the end sndfx clapping theres no place to go you know i wont give in sndfx clapping no, i wont give in keep holding on caues ya know well make it through, make it through keep holding on connell a lot of people are around the country will be watching us in new york tomorrow just as we were watching ferguson this week. New york city businesses are closing up shop ahead of our shop and anti police protest. The former new york gubernatorial candidate with us in studio. Good to see you. Have not seen you since you were running for governor last time around. The protests this weekend, we were talking about it earlier and michele. This man died in Police Custody. What do you make of this move . We will close down before the protest starts. Well, these people are trying to agitate and disrupted by warning businesses and getting them all upset over this thing. What is sharpton doing . What i you doing over there on a business street in the middle of a business day organizing 3,000 people to walk down the street. Connell im sure his point would be, well, that is where it happened, s. I. Find a nice part for yourself. I am sure they have nice parks. That would be really nice. Find your followers and have fun. You are disrupting the businesses. Connell would you do that . You know what, not even going to take the chance. Why would you. Someone throw a rock through your front window. He knows exactly what hes doing. In many senses the press encourages him by highlighting him. Connell what do you make of the way this has been handled. We were showing on the screen, one thing, some of story. A lot of people are coupling that together. This situation has from a political standpoint been tough for the new mayor to handle. He wants to be on every side. He does not want to be anti police were perceived that way. Connell he is the boss. At the same time he needs to be with the community. What you make of the way he has handled the new mayor . Very similar to the governor of missouri. He is often never never land he has already prosecuted the poor policeman. Connell and made that comment last week. That nonsense. The political career comes first. Why . Why do we have to live with that . Why . When the president comes to new york city everything has to stop. He has no regard for the little guy on the street. The same thing. He knows how to push the buttons. This guy, the press is not recognized it yet. Discovery is irrelevant on the scene of the 21st century. What is going on in this country. They wrote him off a long time ago. Connell to do . The day after the election. They regretted the fact that they did not get out and vote and ended up with this guy. Connell he is a new mayor. The man he lost to running for governor is seeking in return. Let me ask you a little bit. You are not running this time the local county executive is going to be the main opponent. If you look at the polls he will present. It will not be a cruise, but i think he still is the frontrunner right now. That is an illustration of just how ill informed the public use and the disinterest. There are distracted by nonsense. Connell what are the missing . We dont have a lot of time. What is the big thing theyre missing. Just look at the same fact. A terrible infringement upon the Second Amendment rights. The original safe act was watered down somewhat. Was not pleasant. Anybody recognizing where this guy is going. He will make a hard left as soon as he gets elected. What the original one was which included confiscation of weapons. He is going to do that because he wants there to be to the left of hillary and obama. He thinks that is where he has to be. Connell to run for president. We are out of time, as i said we were going to be. It is good to see you again. Could filling up your gas tank be indirectly funding the isis operations overseas a new warning that may have you worried and it is next. Create a better website at squarespace. Com start your free trial today. Life an everyday miracle of survival today the future of all life on earth hangs in the balance what happens next depends on us well you done done me and you bet i felt it i tried to be chill but youre so hot that i melted i fell right through the cracks now im trying to get back before the cool done run out ill be giving it my bestest and nothings going to stop me but divine intervention i reckon its again my turn to win some or learn some but i wont hesitate no more, no more it cannot wait, im yours open up your mind and see like me open up your plans and damn youre free youll find that the skysnd yours so please dont, please dont, please don t theres no need to complicate cause our time is short this oh, this oh, this is our fate im yours connell biz blitz time. It on wednesday iraqi minister of oil made a statement. We will look at part of it now. International purchasers of crude oil and other Market Participants should be aware that any oil exports made without authorization may contain crude originated from fields under the control of isis. With that we are back. We will address this issue. We have done stories about it or talked about it. I dont know that it resonates with people are not. They should. They should be particularly concerned. Right now to refineries. That is just in iraq. The capacity could go up to 80,000 perris this is a huge source of revenue that is essentially funding terrorists. It is a frightening prospect. Connell something we can do about it . Not really. A huge Global Energy crunch. We cant just buy oil from that region. The price is where the profits are coming from. We could recede as the oil infrastructure, but that will only make them angry and some most of the revolutions happen. I agree to the extent that sometimes we have topics like this. Yes, we have to do something this is how we will get them. There is not really much we can do. All filling a power cars. There are longerterm issues. We should all drive teslas. Until that happens every time you fill up your gas tank your supporting saudis, i guess i asked, all sorts of the spots that he would probably rather not support. As the world we live in. It is a world market. Were certainly going to put people out of business. There really is no answer. This is his fault of way to realistic. This is something the president should do. An honors the terrifying prospect you have them taking the land, territory, not operating in shadows but out in the upper. Connell youre talking about military action. Us with your basically saying. Connell the colonel that was on with us earlier. Not only sang whitney to be more aggressive. Are we going to go when . Send forces . As he said, earlier to one if you really want to eliminate them, that is what you have to do. There is no level of aggression. There is no reason why the previous dictator gassed his own people. We would have to reinstall an evil dictator puppet regime or there will take over the country which is exactly the power vacuum. Connell we should have left and there in the first place. Topics to, ukraine calling this a direct invasion. Russia is driving a dozen trucks into the rubble held part of the country. Russia responded saying trucks were being deliberately altered. Maybe we come back monday morning and this is a bigger story. Maybe it is one that affects the markets. This is an invasion and not an aid mission. Wall street has written off the invasion. Connell it does not matter to them. Probably thinks that ukraine will stop being a country. Even the russian stock market is improving. Higher than it was years and years ago. Unfortunately it comes back. The financial power. These countries are not profitable. Which will also go about and collapse the global economy. There are things and Angela Merkel is the hero in all this, she led the western response to putin. There is something you can do because the british wont let us do it and the europeans wont let us do it. Assets are all in the city of london or swiss banks and new york city. Or the people in the not the people weve gone after. No, no, weve gone after the head of this company and this company. Were talking about the people financing Vladimir Putins personal lifestyle. 150 people, seized their assets. Third topic, and kelly, to you first on whether or not the Real Recovery is on or not in the economy. Protesters at the feds annual Convention Today were asking where is my recovery . The fed chair janet yellen in a keynote speech that the recent rapid decline in the Unemployment Rate overstates americas economic health. Which means that the job market is not where its supposed to be or something. What do you make of where we are in the economic recovery, end with this point . To Janet Yellens credit, she said the labor market hasnt improved to the point we want it to. She has said that. She was light on it. I would like to see stronger language. The economy is in shatters. The lowest since 1978. The economy double digit employment for young people. The economy is still in trouble. Is that right, jonas . That characterization . Shatters . No. For young people it is. Certain people. I invest in the corporations. What im trying to say is longer fed policy is the limit to the job market it. Has the created a huge asset boom, it is generated a lot of corporate profits on a lot of levels and have time to cool it down. Unfortunately week have an underlying job problem thats not going to go away with Federal Reserve policy. We have to tell everyone about neils big show. Neil, tonight neil cavuto, you can see him, he has a big special that you will be able to catch 11 00 p. M. Eastern. Fox Business Network hosting a special called cyber wargame, tonight cavuto 11 00 p. M. , fox business. Here on monday at 11 00 a. M. But right now the ever capable hands of lou dobbs. Lou good evening, everyone. The Obama Administration is seriously trying to save face in the deafening criticism and it severely underestimated the threat from the islamic date in iraq. The white house began almost immediately to control the Public Relations damage that it could not proceed, but it may have made matters worse with comments like these from chuck hagel. Isis is a sophisticated and wellfund