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Suffering its worst attack in 13 years. The attack took place in a popular tourist shopping area in the heart of barcelona. Two suspects now arrested. Ashley webster has the latest. Ashley. Ashley yeah, liz, it has been a little chaotic as the information has come out of barcelona. As you say, the latest number 13 dead, 100 injured, at least. We are told that 15 of those are very seriously injured, so the death toll could go higher. We have two suspects, we are told, in custody. Its unclear how many suspects may be involved and whether the search goes on for others. One of those suspects who was widely reported by spanish media and around the world when his picture appeared on television in spain, the individual said wait a minute. Thats not me. I live outside barcelona. He turned himself in and said, yes, thats my picture. That is my name. But i wasnt even in barcelona. And then told police that he believes his identity and all of his documents were stolen, he believes by his younger brother. So a little bit of a twist there. That individual who has not been identified is believed to have rented that white van and as you say, liz, drove it down a very busy and popular pedestrians boulevard in the very heart of barcelona. Witnesses say it was traveling at up to 50 miles an hour and at one point even zigzagging trying to hit as many people as possible. The other incident thats been reported is a car that blew through a Police Checkpoint in another part of barcelona earlier today. That led to a shootout with police and one suspect was killed. It is still unclear and spanish authorities wont say whether that incident is actually related to the van attack. But, again, the center of barcelona tonight its late now in barcelona is shut down. Plenty of police presence. Still searching going on as they try to get to the heart of who may have taken part in this attack. We do know that isis through its media arm has claimed responsibility for the attack. But, again, liz, still more information coming out. Are there more people involved . We dont know. But what we do know is that one of the most popular tourist destinations in europe have become a tragic scene tonight as we, again, report 13 dead, 100 wounded, and that number could become worse. Liz thank you, ashley. You will be staying on the story for us throughout the hour. Yes. Liz thank you, ashley. And now staggering statistic. Worldwide 19,800 people have been killed and more than 51,000 have been injured in islamist global terror attacks since 1990. That includes the World Trade Center bombing in 1993 and 9 11. With more reaction on barcelona is the founder and president of America Islamic forum for democracy. He is dr. Zuhdi jasser. Good to see you, doctor. Thank you. Good to be with you, liz. Liz isis has claimed responsibility for barcelona. Its another terror attack involving a van. Youve been on this story for us. More than 100 killed over the last year or so in this way nice, berlin, stockholm. Do you think this could be part of a larger cell . Well, were hearing that there may be more element to this than simply the van and as typical, theres always coordination with a number of members involved once they go operational. And isis has been at the top of their drive to drive jihadist attacks, as you and i have spoken just in the last week, we know about the attack broken out of australia, which was the attack on airlines and phosphorous bombs, et cetera. And then we know about the one that was going to be launched on trains on inspire magazine simply a few days ago was found to be inspiring. So this is not a surprise. And now they found a city, barcelona which was not attacked. Spain hasnt been attacked in over ten years since the madrid bombings. So this is a whackamole program. There are thousands a report out of france yesterday, liz, said that there were 18,000 jihaddists that were being tracked in france alone. The uk has 28,000. Im sure spain has in the thousands. I dont know the numbers out of spain. But realize that there are just too many to follow. Why . Were not following the ideology. And as we learn more, im pretty confident were going to see that these folks were connected to islamist ideology. Liz your point is well taken, and youre saying the number in the double digits. Counties like france, i think the intelligence and other forces there. Numbers in the thousands. To your point, again, the world. Look at the number killed. 19,800 since 1990. We should point out that in 2015, 28,000 people were killed in all sorts of terror attack. Were focused on islamic jihadis right now because isis is claiming responsibility for barcelona. Go ahead, doctor. And this is the tip of the iceberg. These are the ones that happen to be in the eu that are operationalled through their radical ideology. The underlying element of this iceberg are the militant organization and infrastructure from syria, from iraq and iran, saudi arabia, the militants groups, if you will. The ideology continues to flow, and were going to continue this very dizzying whackamole program until we get a coordinated response to counter the ideology. The jihadists want to build states, they want to weaken the west, they want to draw influence from the middle east so that they can start put into place theocratic states and counter the dictatorships that exist there. And weve been completely missing in action on engaging a third pass, if you will, of more moderate ideological options for muslims and reform. Liz the Trump Administration is saying this will never be the norm. This will never be the new normal whats going on here. In the west, there is universal revulsion. They murder muslims and nonmuslims alike. Doctor, heres the thing. Are people finally around the world going to use the term islamic terror . Are we no longer exceeding to blackmail to avoid defending when the majority of muslims reject this radical ideology, and they are victimized too. The reason they have to use this term is we cant treat a disease that we cant diagnose. And once you diagnose, you enable the treatments that we need to have. And these symptoms, this virus that keeps coming back and back, you cant employ the right treatment against the cancer or the virus unless you know what youre treating. And it is a threeocratic version, a supremacist version of islam that wants the west to withdrawal its ideas of secular freedom, religious freedom, treating everyone equal under the law. All those ideas are threats. They want to invoke laws, and they do that by weakening our resolve. And the moment, liz, that we call this a new normal is the moment we surrender to isis and surrender to the radicals because they want us to consider this normal so that we simply go away from the business of trying to win the hearts and minds of muslims who currently this is why you often see multiple attacks is because remember, the paris attacks in november 2015 were followed by the same cell acting in march of 2016. They hid out within communities that were completed separated from the rest of european society. And the Security Apparatus couldnt even get them because of that. And still now two years later, were still talking about increasing in the tens of thousands of threats because were just not treating the disease. Liz to your point, theres something in the mindset of the terrorists that weve talked to Law Enforcement and intelligence officials around the world. They dehumanize people as the other. And they dont treat them with the humanity and respect that they deserve. Its striking in a age of Nuclear Weapons, proliferation there and genetically bioengineered toxins, something as simple as a van can kill so many. Exactly. I mean, they will continue to morph the weapons they use from vehicular jihad to trains to whatever it takes to invoke whether its machetes. Its not about the weapons. Its about invoking fear in random events that appear to be random but allow innocent tourists and others to feel that they cant be normal. They cant live a normal life. And we cant change who we are, and we shouldnt. But if were going to counter that, we need to look at the precursors before they get militarized. We need to look at the precursors of the groups that say that muslims are victims, that muslims are victims of bigotry. That they dont fit into society. All of these memes, if you will, that tell muslims that they cant live happily as free thinking muslims in the west, that radicalizes them and begins them on the course of radicalization and creates the separatist idea that makes them for operationalling in a van into killing innocents and dehumanizing them in that last step where nonmuslims become simply dehumanized individuals that they become targets. Liz to your point, Oxford University looked at the background of terrorists and most of them are university trained. They become engineers or doctors. But, sir, these are decentralized and lethal. Very dangerous terror network. They have franchises all over the world, and theyre using the benefits of capitalism to do their plots. You talked about it. Laptops and smartphone devices. Checking luggage with plastic bomb components on commercial airplanes. Using ebay and paypal to stream cash to lone wolfs. Theyre capitalizing on capitalism. They really are, and its all hands on deck to see something, say something. We dont know where the next threats going to be. They try to distract us with inspire magazine that talks about trains while then they use the vehicular jihad to attack innocent people shopping. So at the end of the day, we need a cultural shift at every level of society, it in malls, restaurants, in our military, in our police, in our media to begin to counter the hate speech. I mean, we had just a month ago doing an hour screed of antisemitic jew hatred in Southern California, and we couldnt get media to pay. Liz that is unacceptable. That is completely unacceptable that that is happening in the United States. Its unacceptable. Sir, that tells me theyre not assimilating to our bill of rights and Constitutional Values that we have here of freedom and democracy. Go ahead. And when he was confronted, two weeks later with an interface background, he does an apology saying, well, you know, im sorry. I didnt mean it. This is what it was. Well, listen, that wasnt good enough. That entire mosque needs not only the hate speech but the books and the literature that teach muslims that western society is not theirs, its not islamic, that somehow we need the only way to fight jihad is to disimagine the states that teach jihadism obligation of the Islamic State. Not only isis but any Islamic State nationalism needs to be defeated, and we muslims are the only ones that can solve this, and it needs all hands on deck at every level of culture from music to business to military and police. Liz you know, a strong leader sets the tone for an entire bureaucracy. The Trump Administration is standing up and saying you know what . Enough is enough. Theres no greater violation of civil rights than being bombed at work or being, you know, struck by a van and killed by terrorists in a tourist area. Why didnt the media cover that story that you just brought to us about whats going on with that mosque in Southern California . Well, some of us tried to scream about it and talk about it and some media did. But youre right. The Mainstream Media is so obsessed with the derangement syndrome of russia and other things, they are completely ignoring their role in covering topics that are important to be covered for us to be safe and treat the other pathologies that exist that continue to threat us. Because, listen, liz. There is the constituency that these radicals could be pointing to is a quarter of the population. And were going to the point of historic where we either reject theocracy or overtaken by it. And the media, it facebook, google, or others need to Start Playing the role in helping empower the voices with the platforms that we have. And even after manchester, there were huge missed opportunities with millions paying attention and everybody sort of ignoring the ideology in the middle of the room. Liz dr. Zuhdi jasser, good to see you, sir. Thank you for being on. Thank you, liz. Liz lets take a look at your money in the wake of the barcelona attack. Stocks ending in session lows after the news there. The dow plunging 274 points. Thats the biggest oneday drop in three months. The dow movers were apple, cisco, Goldman Sachs weighing on a jittery, nervous market on edge. Also on fears that gary cohn, the president s quarterback on his Economic Growth agenda could quit. The white house saying he is not quitting. Hes staying put. S p sectors hit hardest include the tech sector, financials, and industrials. Lets get to this President Trump tweeting earlier the United States terror attack in barcelona, spain and will do whatever is necessary to help. Be tough and strong. We love you. 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Were going to take you right to spain. Lets get to it. Okay. Were going to come back out. When we get that sound, well bring you right back to that. Vice president mike pence reacting to the terror attack in barcelona. Well give you an update on this. 13 dead, more than 100 injured. A van plowed into a crowd of pedestrians in a popular tourist area. It took place in barcelona. It is the famous tourist and pedestrians walkway in the heart of the city. Isis claiming responsibility for the attack. Two arrests of suspects have been made. Joining me now former cia officer buck sexton and officer darren. Great to see you. Buck, first to you. How quickly will authorities discern if this is a larger terror cell . Theyre going to be looking immediately at the electronic and digital footprint left behind by these individuals. Theyre going to be pulling cell phones, any computer activity, and that will give them a pretty good sense as to who is involved in the operational cell or people around them. The people that can provide support. And also looking if theres any external direct operation from the Islamic State or some of its operatives. So that can happen in a matter of hours. Liz a matter of hours. Theres reports out of spanish passport of a person of m origin. What does that tell them behind the scenes . Traditionally one of the quickest ways to authentic someones identification is through print technology. Coupled with facial recognition. That should give us a recognition as to who this individual is. Upon completion of the assessment, then you could move further into trying to determine who this individual was. One of the first things that i will look into if a person is arrested, what was the timeline in when this person was arrested in terms of who did they reach out to . Who were the contacts . Who did they make phone calls to, et cetera . So that will be information in trying to gain information timeline on who theyre in connection with. Liz you know, why spain . Spain hasnt had a major terror attack. Since 2004. Liz 13 years. Why spain now . Spain actually plays a very large role in much of the jihad i can rhetoric that happened against europe because they vowed. They refer back centuries to when this was actually islamic territory, and they have names for it. They refer to it as part of the caliphate, and thats why theres always been this sense going back to bin laden that they like to attack in spain because of the historic connections and the longstanding and centuries of fighting between christians and muslims and the peninsula. Liz wow so, you know, its a new era, doctor. The safety according to the Trump Administration. Thats what theyre saying. That is the principle operation of government. So have we left behind the idea that we should stop referring to it as islamic terror . I mean, the 9 11 report refers to it as islamist terror seven times. A lot of this terrorism that has been happening in europe has been islamic terrorism. So we need the focus of sources and where this is coming from. Liz when you name it, you can make connections faster. Absolutely. Lets call a spade a spade. The isis has come out in since taken recognition for this. We dont know if this is inspired or directed by isis. But they have left the hook in this state that we did have some level of connection what would happen here. So going back to how we label it and how we target it, we have to focus on many of the senses of where these people are coming from and what is the ideology that theyre moving forward. Liz we had dr. Judy jasser on, and hes saying theres a cultural shift now. Previously, this thinking was under the Prior Administration that if we close gitmo or we stop making offensive cartoons that the terrorist threat would recede. Theres a level of clarity thats added by the Trump Administration here that fighting against terror is not the cause of it. That terrorism is not a response to u. S. Foreign policy. This isnt the result of the legacy of colonialism. This isnt because of u. S. Support of israel. When they attack places like spain and in the jihadist chat rooms and jihadist literature, they will refer back to whats happening in the 15th century. I think we have a sense that this is a deepseated idea logical battle. You have to name it, you have to understand what the ideology wants. And know that theyre not going way away, and you have to take the fight to them. Liz the u. S. Military will stay in syria for a indefinite time to battle these forces. Thats breaking news just moments ago. So what were talking about too periodical and frequently on the show is how terrorists are using the benefits of capitalism. Theyre using commercial airlines to transport plastic components and check luggage. Ebay and paypal to send cash to lone wolfs. Is this a new era of terrorism that were seeing and the way theyre spreading their franchises of fear and terror around the world . I think its just a revolution in terrorism. Terrorism is just moving with the innovation in society. So we have a group of people that hate us. They hate the aspect of capitalism in the United States. Therefore, they will use whatever means possible. Liz why do they hate it . I mean, theyve been getting oil government subsidies to live on. Thats the Business Model for their governments to have extensive entitlement statements off of the fruits of oil. And they dont theyve been subsidized for most of their lives. So why do they hate capitalism . This is a small population of the islamic community. They feel a sense of being disenfranchised, and theyre looking to grab hold of anything that that pathway to success for them, and it just goes back to we have the we have a very free society here. We have multiple religions that we practice here in the United States. Whereas its more of a monolithic culture when it comes to islam. Therefore, they have targeted us because were free society. Liz buck and darren, youve been great. Thank you, doctor. Thank you, buck. Isis has claimed responsibility for the attack in barcelona. 13 dead. Over 100 injured. Two people have been arrested. We will bring you the very latest as soon as we get it. We will be right back. Dont go away flat tire in the middle of the night. Hold on dad. Liberty did what . Yeah, Liberty Mutual 24hour roadside assistance helped him to fix his flat so he could get home safely. My dad says our insurance doesnt have that. Dont worry i know what a lug wrench is, dad. Is this a lug wrench . Maybe . 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Terrorists around the world should know the United States and our allies are eau resolved are resolved to find you and bring you to justice. Elizabeth secretary of state Rex Tillerson commenting about the terror attack in barcelona. Joining me now, former u. S. Ambassador to the u. N. , john bolton. Good to see you, ambassador. Glad to be with you. Elizabeth you know, its striking that in an age of proliferating Nuclear Weapons and bioengineered toxins, something as simple as a van can kill and hurt so many. Well, i think this is an example of what happens when you dont approach the threat of terrorism from the correct perspective. You just heard an example of it from secretary of state tillerson. Although it dates back to the Bush Administration and the response to 9 11, to say were going to bring them to justice. Thats the wrong approach. This is not a Law Enforcement matter. This is a war. And we are not treating it as a war. Once again, were surprised, were shocked, obviously, were horrified. Why should we be surprised and shocked . If the enemy is determined to bring the battle to you and you leave it up to them to determine when and where and under what terms theyre going to do it, were going to be surprised and shocked for a long time. I think its only when we recognize not just that were fighting an ideology, but that were fighting a war that the terrorists have begun against us that were going to have any chance to succeed. And i think that goes directly to the point about weapons of mass destruction. Im afraid were on a policy line now even in the Trump Administration that will leave north korea with a Nuclear Weapons capability. And a substantial chemical weapons capability. And since north korea will sell anything to anybody for hard currency, its only a matter of time, im afraid, before some terrorist group gets a weapon of mass destruction. We just go along well be surprised and shocked when that happens too. Elizabeth its an important point you make. North korea, of course, has chemical weapons and neurotoxins as well. Catalan police saying there has been an explosion in a house in an incident connected to this barcelona van attack. One person has been killed. We will stay on that story for you. To your point, you should the Obama Administration they called under the Obama Administration, they called it workplace violence, eric holder called it that. Are we in a new era, the safety of citizens comes first . Have we left behind the belief that if we only stopped using the term islamic terror, say closed gitmo or stopped using to offensive cartoons, that the Terror Threat would recede . Are we in a brand new world of how to deal with terror right now . Well, i think the threat continues and, indeed, is expanding. Its not just the terrorists who have been trained by isis. The fact is that the ideology, the radical ideology is not diminishing, it continues to grow strong. The biggest source of finance for radical islamic terrorism since 1979 has been iran, and they have been within the past two years enormously enriched by the United States and others in the Nuclear Agreement unfreezing, perhaps, up to 150 billion in assets and substantial economic deals signed by europeans in particular for new investment in oil and other productive projects there. The Trump Administrations not yet been willing to crater that deal and get out of it and return to trying to deal with the Iranian Nuclear problem. So i must say i take a pretty pessimistic view of this because were just not serious about it. Its not enough to say terrorism is a terrible thing. You really, you have to defend yourself actively, and that doesnt mean waiting for First Responders to respond to the next terrorist attack. Elizabeth i mean, yeah, youre right. The Clinton Administration subsidized, i think, Nuclear Reactors for north korea. You pointed out that. It sounds like youre a critical call, a little bit, of the Trump Administration. Strong leaders set the tone, and do you believe the Trump Administration has set the right tone in dealing with radical islamic terror . Well, i think the white house has, but strong leaders also have to get control of the government, and i dont think the national Security Apparatus yet reflects the kinds of policies that we need. Its not to say that the game is over yet, but were running out of time. You know, really we didnt elect the hillary Clinton Administration, but weve got now many similarities and continuities with the Obama Administration policy that i think we could have expected under clinton. Elizabeth ambassador bolton, always good to see you. Thank you so much for coming on the show. Getting back to barcelona, 13 now dead. Over 100 injured in a terror attack. 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Ashley webster does have the new developments. Ashley. Reporter and theyre coming thick and fast, liz. I guess the headline now out of barcelona is the van driver, the person responsible for mowing down innocent people in that main pedestrian boulevard in the center of barcelona, is still at large are. Spanish police talking to media late tonight say the two suspects in custody are not, they believe, the van driver. They say those suspects one, a spanish national, the other is a moroccan but they did not say where they believe the driver is and, clearly, the manhunt dose on for that individual. The goes on for that individual. The other piece of news, a couple of things. The shooting dead of a suspect who went through a Police Checkpoint in his vehicle, police at this point say they dont believe that is attached to the van attack earlier today. Now more developments of a house explosion about two hours south of barcelona in a small spanish town. An explosion that at first was thought to be a gas explosion. Police and firefighters responded, and then a second explosion. We understand two people have now been reported dead from that explosion that happened p late last night. Sixteen people injured including some Police Officers and firefighters. Bottles of butane and propane were found at that scene. Now Spanish Police say that late night explosion, they believe, is linked to the van attack today. So theres a lot of moving parts. Bottom line is two people are now in custody for this attack that left 13 dead, 100 or more people injured, but they do not believe at this point, the Spanish Police, that they actually have the person who was behind the wheel of that van. Liz . Elizabeth elizabeth ashley, thank you so much. Youre going to be staying with us. Thanks for that, really appreciate it. With more expert analysis, lets bring in retired Lieutenant General thomas mcinerney. Were hearing isis claimed responsibility. What is your initial reaction to all of this. Well, weve seen this movie before, liz. The fact is, we dont like it. We saw it in new york city on 9 11, washington, d. C. , chattanooga, fort hood, orlando, san bernardino, i could go on and on, paris, nice, the whole world, and were at it again. So we are not solving the basic problem of defeating and deterring and dissuading this evil ideology. We need to do that. Elizabeth cnn host wolf blitzer said there will be questions raised if this barcelona terror attack involving a van crashing into a crowd of people was a copycat of what happened in charlottesville, virginia. Sir, you just pointed out and weve been reporting paris saw vehicle attacks, nice, london, berlin, stockholm. Why are they comparing it to charlottesville . I mean, the use of vehicles has predated that. Cnn itself has reported the use of vehicles in terror attacks before what happened last weekend. Why are they trying to compare it . Its insane. Its purely the leftwing media. Theyre trying to keep that built up. It was, look, it was a republican excuse me, it was a democratic mayor, a democratic councilman or city manager and a democratic governor. It should never have happened, liz. That was contrived. No matter what you say, they should never have let those two groups together. And to conflate to it to the same as what happened in barcelona is idiotic. Elizabeth sir, how much has surveillance improved to get actionable information on terror plans . Theres these terror franchises around the world right now. James comey, ill be quick, former fbi director said officials worry about a diaspora of terrorists coming out of the middle east via the collapse of syria. Thats a very valid concern and something weve got to work very closely at and get the patterns of behavior. But it goes back to the mosques and to the islamic faith ideology itself. They must be held accountable, and leaders around the world, we must call it what it is. It isnt violent extremism, it is radical islam. And our leadership in the white house, the president calls it that but not the whole team, but we as a nation must call et what it is call it what it is and the rest of the world must and hold the Islamic Society and ideology leaders accountable. Elizabeth you know, Hillary Clinton used the term islamist terror in a speech in 2005. The 9 11 report uses the term islamist terror, i think seven times, a whole chapter entitled islamist terror in that report. Do you think that there is a new world order on terror in the trump era, that the safety of citizens comes first . Large bureaucracies are strongly influenced by the signals given by their leaders. Trump has repeatedly called it islamic terror. It makes it faster to investigate and see the connection, right . Yes, it does. And what is the ideology were facing, its the quran, the sayings of the prophet and sharia law. Those are the things that make this an evil ideology. And the fact is, is President Trump gets it, but his team as john bolton, ambassador john bolton just said, he doesnt have his full team as hooked up in the same direction yet. Elizabeth you know, lets show the general the stats again. More than 19,800 people have been killed by radical islamic terror attacks since 1990. Weve looked at it, more than 51,000 have been injured in islamist terror attacks. When you fold in all sorts of terrorist attacks, those numbers go up. Again, the numbers that we first showed you are from 1990. The media really not reporting the totality of these numbers, sir, over the past few decades. Exactly. And the media has been in denial, in all honesty. If it wasnt for fox news that would at least articulate the issue and have balanced points of view, no one else would be talking about it, liz. And thats one of our major problems. Elizabeth general, we love to see you, come back soon. Isis is taking responsibility for the terror attack in barcelona, reportedly celebrating on social media. Isis posting a statement adding that they had carried out the attack, they are celebrating right now online. Were staying on that story for you. Were going to have more after break, dont go away. This is not a cloud. This is a car protected from storms by an Insurance Company that knows the weather down to the square block. This is a diamond tracked on a blockchain protected against fraud, theft and trafficking. This is a financial Transaction Secure from hacks and threats others cant see. This is a patients medical history made secure while Still Available to their doctor at their fingertips. This is an asteroid livestreamed to millions of viewers from 220 miles above earth. This is ai trained by experts in 20 industries. Your industry. Hello. This is not the cloud you know. 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Quote we will not let terrorism become the new normal. Instead, such acts of violence only harden our resolve to fight back against violent extremists, bring them to justice and dismantle their networks. Joining me now, former consultant to Homeland Security, he is an expert on countering violent extremism. Good to see you, sir. Good to see you. Elizabeth why spain . I mean, its been 13 years since spain has had a major terror attack. Why spain . Why now . Well, spain has been a hotbed because of northern africa. Weve seen a lot more traffic come close a number of times, theres been a lot of activity recently. Youve seen a lot of people coming back from syria, so theres been a growth. But one thing i just want to point out, that house that exploded last night, the propane tanks that were found and that ended up exploding, you know, more than likely those propane tanks would have ended up on this truck. And if they did end occupy up on the truck, that attack that happened today would have been far more volatile. You can imagine a truck full of propane franks coming into collision would have injured and killed so many more people. Elizabeth have you seen that as an idea for terrorists to use propane tanks in terror attacks this vehicles . Well, look, i think they are looking to create mass carnage wherever they can, so weve seen, you know, truck bombs and car bombs used all the time. And idea of using and this idea of using cars and trucks and crashing into civilians is something thats been, we were seeing that across the world now. That is an easy way of creating carnage. And attaching bombs to them is really not that far from it. Elizabeth thats youre just bringing up the next level. I mean, youre right. They have been doing that in the middle east. Lets get to the vehicle terror attack that is we know of right now, with berlin, jerusalem, nice, ohio state university, that was a vehicular attack, paris, stockholm, so it goes on and on. Quebec was in there too. How do authorities stop these vehicle attacks . There are so many innocent lives being destroyed right now. Yeah. Look, weve seen, you know, the fundamental change that were starting to see in terms of security is as we try to harden these targets, weve seen, for example, at airports, we keep hardening the airport security. In turkey what we saw and even in the Arianna Grande concert we saw is rather than hitting past a security checkpoint, terrorists are hitting before the security checkpoints or where people gather at the security checkpoint because they know there are a lot of people. This particular boulevards one of the most, you know, revered places. A lot of treuer tourists there, so hitting Something Like that which is a soft target is an easy mace to attack, and those types of targets are across and world, and theres no way to the protect them. Elizabeth thank you so much for your time, sir. Good to see you. Thank you. Elizabeth we are going to bring in the political power panel up next with their response to todays terror attack in barcelona. Dont go away. Measure potsch you each drive a ford pickup, right . in unison russ, leland, gary yes. Gary i have a ford f150. Michael ive always been a ford guy. Potsch then i have a real treat for you today. Michael awesome. Potsch im going to show you a next generation pickup. Michael lets do this. Potsch this new truck now has a cornerstep built right into the bumper. Gary super cool. Potsch the bed is made of highstrength steel, which is less susceptible to punctures than aluminum. Jim aluminum is great for a lot of things, but maybe not the bed of a truck. Potsch and best of all, this new truck is actually gary all laughing oh my. Potsch the current chevy silverado. Gary im speechless. Gary this puts my ford truck to shame. James ill tell you, i might be a chevy guy now. laughing the toothpaste that helps prevent bleeding gums. If you spit blood when you brush or floss you may have gum problems and could be on the journey to much worse. Help stop the journey of gum disease. Try parodontax toothpaste. The dinosaurs extinction. Got you outnumbered. Dont listen to them. Not appropriate. Now im mashing these potatoes with my stick of butter. Why dont you sit over here. Find your awesome with the Xfinity Stream app. Included with xfinity tv. More to stream to every screen. Elizabeth with me now, the political panel. Democrat strategist, fox news corrupter Jessica Tarlov and siriusxm radio host, david webb. First to you, david. Here is what Cnns Wolf Blitzer said earlier, equating what happened in barcelona with charlottesville. Watch. There will be questions about copycats, there will be questions about what happened in barcelona, was at all, at all a copycat version of what happened in charlottesville, virginia, even though there may be different characters, different political ambitions. They used the same killing device, a vehicle going at high speed into a group, a large group of pedestrians. Elizabeth okay. Lets break this down. Cnn also has reported terrorists using vehicles to kill people. It happened in nice, berlin, quebec, jerusalem, happened in columbus, ohio, london, barcelona. Why try to equate it now with charlottesvillesome. Because they need to draw some kind of line, or at least wolf blitzer certainly does. This is shameful. Its an anchor at a major network, the same one who complains about donald trump and moral equivalency now does evil equivalency between charlottesville, the the car attack by the murder, james alex fields, to muslim terrorism that is now claimed by isis, although still developing as a story. Its evil equivalency, its ridiculous, its actually shameful in our business. Elizabeth what do you think, jess . I think its flat out inaccurate. Weve had two terrible terrorist attacks this week, one in charlottesville, one in barcelona and, obviously, the story is still elizabeth can you equate the two . Absolutely not. You just read off a list of all the places cars have been used in i think it hurts cnns credibility. Youve just fed donald trump another line, another cycle that he can buy by saying look what wolfing blitzer said. Its completely different ideologies elizabeth but the president would be right to point that out. Wolf writser is hurting his blitzer is hurting his cause and his networks cause. Just follow the story. This is an incredibly important story, and we will no doubt get back to discussing the events of this weekend and the president s response. Whats also shameful is the gentleman that was speaking before that was drawing that very same line. So its not just wolf blitzer. Its the people who go on and feed this at the network. But then again, the network is failing. The numbers are there for anyone to see, and thats a result of bad journalism. Elizabeth are you worried that people are being misinformed . By what wolf blitzer said that . Elizabeth reporting like that. No, im not worried about that. If you look at the reporting throughout the day, ive been watching shep whos been doing an amazing job for us. Im not worried overall. I think there are certainly a number of stories and reporters and journalists at cnn, certainly like jake tapper, who are quite objective and fair, and i think people on the right certainly feel that way about him as well. I think that was a mistake, but it doesnt detract overall elizabeth i hear you. Go ahead, final word. Its a mistake if you dont conquer the prior person. This is why i encourage people to do full context. Someone was saying this, wolf followed it. As a journalist, you challenge someone if they make a Statement Like that. He chose to or at least elizabeth hear you. Jessica, david, you guys have been terrific. Thanks so much. Were going to stay on this story. We will have more after the break, dont go away. Pleasure businesses count on communication, and communication counts on centurylink. Just start as early as you can. Its going to pay off in the future. If we all start saving a little more today, well all be better prepared tomorrow. Prudential. 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Im gerri willis and you are watching making money. 13 people dead after a van plowed into a street crowded with tourists in barcelona. Police say they are treating this as a terrorist attack. The driver remaining on the loose. Reports isis has claimed responsibility and celebrating online. Thats right. In the u. S. The attacks sent stocks plummeting. President trump condemning the

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