Announcer and now, john stossel. Stossel capitalism works in my lifetime, free markets have listed 2 billion people out of the misery of poverty. Yet, lots of Americans Still sneer at capitalism. Its unfair. A scheme of the rich to exploit poor people. . even today when i would think the success of capitalism is so obvious, some countries still turn to forms of communism. Venezuela voting for that 15 years ago. Hugo chavez promised higher wages, more power to the people. Voters believed. They voted him in to office twice. Cuba went communist 60some years ago, and progress there basically stopped. Cuba is almost as poor as north korea today. But the dictators in cuba say, were only poor because the yankee imperialists starve us. Theyre talking about americas embargo with trade to cuba, travel to cuba. Now president obama promises to end that. President obama we will end an outdated approach that for decades has failed to advance our interests and instead, we will begin to normalize relations between our two countries. Stossel its about time say many of us libertarians. Embargos rarely work. It gave the castro brothers an excuse. They could blame capitalism for the failure of communism. And the cuban people suffered needlessly. Many cuban americans say its wrong to end the embargo. These protesters call the president a trader. And plenty of republican politicians oppose ending the ban. Senator marco rubio says we should strengthen the embargo. Ted cruz says obama is appeasing our enemies. Right when the regime is struggling, president obama stepped in to throw an economic lifeline. And i think that is presents a serious danger to our national security. Stossel author em bearto. Agrees. Tom palmer of the Atlas Network says this is one time where obama is right. The embargo hasnt worked. Lets end it. . i think tom is right. It hasnt worked. Whats the point . Its not an embargo at all. Last year, before the obama moves, three times as many people visited cuba from the United States as visited in the 1950s. Stossel but they go to some other country first. No, no, this is perfectly now, if you want to include those, its probably ten times as many. This is perfectly legal with licenses. Tom, he says this embargo isnt tough enough. If it were the castro brothers would be gone . If everybody joined them. I dont follow this at all. This embargo is not about getting rid of the regime which we were told when it was imposed. Its a failure. Policy failure. Its time to get rid of it. It strengthened the castro regime, their failures are not because of an embargo, they have an excuse. Its the evil yankees they can trade with the rest of the world. But the cuban people dont believe that excuse. This is a failed policy. That really should stossel what would make it succeed . Whats the point . Containment of castros International Terrorist sponsoring that hes doing to this day. Cuba is listed as a state sponsor of terrorism. Stossel whats he doing . Sending spies to america to find out our what . Cuba is an intelligence trafficker. They steal military secrets from the United States and sell them stossel how on the open market. Stossel but any american can steal secrets. An embargo on castro wont prevent this. Im telling you, a us court convicted them of the same crimes as julius and ethel rosenberg, and she is suffering right now the only thing that saved her from going to the electric chair was a plea bargain. She was stealing us secrets. You push a wedge between the rulers and the people these things systematically draw them together. There are dissidents who have said clear this embargo strengthened the castro regime. The overwhelming majority favor the embargo. The socalled embargo. Its not really an embargo. Stossel president eisenhower started this socalled embargo with partial trade restrictions one year after castro took power. President kennedy expanded it to include all trades when he learned that the russians were shipping missiles to cuba. A proclamation of cuba. Our goal is not the victory of might. But the vindication of rights. Stossel i was 15 then. I thought i was going to die in a nuclear war. But the russian ships did turn around. As far as i know, thats the only real success from this. No, in fact thats the only failure of the embargo. What really got those missiles out of cuba, again, according to cruiseships own son was castros letter to his father saying press the buttons. He said, these guys are lunatics. Get the missiles out of cuba until unless something terrible might happen. So this victory by kennedy, they were afraid of castro. Stossel lets move on. During the cold war heres how hollywood portrayed cuba and castros revolution. It was not so long ago that cuba, the pearl of the antilles was a different kind of country. Her hotels were mecca for carefree tourists who flocked from around the western world. And in flux of pleasure seekers that contributed millions to the islands economy. Then castro came and the sounds of joy were submerged by the sound of shooting. Castro convinced the cuban people he was their liberator. They freely gave him the reigns of government. A free hand that he betrayed when he announced that he was a marxist. Dedicating to make the island a communist state. They made it sound like precastro cuba was this paradise. I dont think thats accurate. But there was a big difference between preimposed castro. If you tried to leave cuba. They did not sink your boat or strafe you or murder you or prison you for attempting to leave. Thats different. But he was a bad guy who favored his cronies. No question about it. It wasnt real capitalism. You got out at seven years old. What happened . We went on a plane. My brother my mom, my sister, they dragged my dad off. And my mom, she figured hes going to the firing squad. Thats where everyone was going. She said okay, were not leaving the country. If you cant come, then i wont let you. My dad turns around before he goes and he says you are leaving because whatever happens to me he thought he was going to a firing squad, i dont want my children growing up in a communist country. So we came to the United States. Stossel what happened to your father . He hunts and fishes with his children every weekend now. He got out a few months later. Stossel thats good. We had a happy ending john. But hundreds of thousands of cuban families did not have happy endings. You can sit on any Street Corner of miami and hear stories much worse than mine. Stossel explain this attitude of communism itself, that in order to take power castro lied about his intentions. He said this. We are not communists. Stossel we are not communists. But today, you could say that and people would say, oh, good, this may work. But it was unpopular before the revolution . He had to lie about it . He did. Obviously he would have never taken stossel what do you mean obviously . I dont see how its obvious. In cuba, communism there was a legal communist party in cuba, by the way. And they posted candidates and elections and they won very small margins. Stossel they lost. You know, they got swamped. The communist ideology was useful for cementing control. You became loyal to the party. Your loyalty to the regime for an apartment for your job. For virtually everything. So communism provided a very powerful it made everybody dependent. Once it was established. . this is not unique. When the communists took power in Eastern Europe, they also were not communists. In mein many cases. Once they had power off came the mask. Then they brought in and took over the secret police. That was their primary objective in every country. Secret police. Then establishing arrests. Stossel communism is just supposed to mean were all in this together comrade. Why does it always become secret police and murder . The reason is, people decide they want to get out of it. You are forced into it. We George Orwell put this so well in animal farm. Predicated on equality for everyone, as it turns out all animals are equal, but some are more equal than others. People figure this out at at some point. But they want out. But they have to be kept in the prison. Tom palmer spends most of his life overseas in third world countries. Many of them communist. He travels for the Atlas Institute to set up libertarian think tanks those groups. You see a lot of the third world. I spent a lot of time in the soviet union when it was still with us. They allowed east germans to leave when they got to be retirement age 65. Then you could leave because they had squeezed your life out of you and they didnt have to pay a pension anymore. It was really sickening because their view was we use you up. Now get out. If other spanishspeaking countries went along with it, what would happen . What happened with sansouth africa. Why was Nelson Mandela freed . An embargo that everyone joined and it was enforced. It was sanctions that changed south africa. Look at the whole history of sanctions littered with failure after failure. Not the economic sanctions. Stossel they havent worked in iraq. They didnt work in japan before world war ii. They havent worked in cuba. You have your reasons. North korea it hasnt worked. I say they have worked in cuba in saving the us taxpayer from getting fleeced. Look, when you see the farm lobby get behind something, you guys should know what theyre up to. Another raid on us. Stossel suspicious on the foreign lobby. To join this argument, follow me on twitter. Fbn stossel. Use the communism. Like my Facebook Page to post on my wall. My adventures in communist russia. It was want fun being there. And also an actual communist today presents the case for communism. I look forward to fighting with him. So id rather fight with her. Why is it cool to Wear Clothing adorned with pictures of communist murderers . The trendiness of communism, next. Stossel have you got your che guevara tshirt. I have mine here, isnt it cool . It shouldnt be. Communism killed a lot of people. He said, we must eliminate all newspapers. We cannot make a revolution with a free press. Arent we americans supposed to savor a free press . Three years later after he helped castro take power, he said we executed many people by fire squad without knowing if theyre fully guilty. He killed people without knowing if theyre fully guilty. Guilty of what . Believing in capitalism . Owning a farm . Che and his gang killed thousands of people. Yet, if you go to an american teachers union, you see people wearing this. Who is on your shirt . Che. Che. Che guevara. Can you tell me about che. Hes a revolutionary who fought for labor rights. Thats why i have him on. Hes a good role model for all of us in standing for the people. A good role model. What is she thinking . Michael moynihan writes about this for the daily beast. I have no idea what shes thinking. The first thing to say he didnt fight for labor rights. They outlawed independent labor unions in 1959. Che guevara within a few years set up the labor camps and penal colonies that we see now. Theyre slightly reduced not as brutal as they once were. They still are brutal. Guevara pulled people that were revolutionaries and had them shot. Stossel why is he on these tshirts . Its an amazing thing. Stossel we have this picture of this famous model. Giz he will selling swimwear. They probably have a lot of money that would be expropriated by che guevara if he had the chance. You see people like Carlos Santana wearing this shift shirt. Hes just goodlooking. He was hand some, but banned movies that was considered capitalistic in cuba. So these people have no idea what theyre talking about. Hes a revolutionary. He fought for people, et cetera. . no, he actually required by his ideological fanaticism that a country, cuba remain poor from 1959 to today. If you go on twitter and talk about cuba, people talk about, oh, theyre all literate. You hear about that all the time. The literacy rate, those numbers we get from the cuban government. Theyre not a trustworthy source. Second of all, what is the point of full literacy if youre not allowed to read what you want. If you have to read the to your knowledge an speeches of fidel and raul castro and thats what your literacy gets you, if you want to go to a library in central havana and get a copy of 1984. Good luck. When the communist party took over, they overthrew a vicious group. The starting point in cuba. Literacy was already fairly high. . they didnt have too far to go. This is always what is said. They have health care. And they have literacy. Who cares about free press. This hugely popular travel guide. Cuba remains a refreshing reserved quality. Its a space that serves as a beacon for the future. Universal health care, housing are rights. People the world over want. A beacon for the future. Its a museum of the past is what it is. Not a beacon for the future. The reason there are cute little cars there is because the country is bankrupt. Internet access, is that quaint. Were not polluted to twitter. They have government control. Communism is popular in hollywood. Cameron diaz carried a bag with a mao slogan. They killed 70,000 people. Yeah, the shining path. Ill cut cameron diaz in a tiny bit of slack. I chalk this up to ignorance. They tend to be extremely wealthy. If you took their money also, its also the concept of commune. Were all in this together. It is. The idea of communism is a simple one. We should all share everything. Right . Its a simple thing. Trying to explain liberal economics. Classic liberal economics, its complicated. Thats what we try to do on this show. But its not working. In terms of the positive view of capitalism, its not just the young people who dont get it. Thirty to 49. Only 50 have a positive view. Fifty to 64, 53 barely half. No, i find myself fighting this problem all the time. Things like globalization, which is considered a horrible scourge that lifts people out of poverty. People in india and china, sort of post communist societies out of poverty. Globalization is a swear word. Its a very sort of complicated argument to get to the result, which is this stuff works. This stuff is brings people out of misery. Yeah. Thank you, michael moynihan. A proud communist who says communism would bring us guaranteed jobs and incomes, just give it a chance. We will fight about that. Your moms got your back. Your friends have your back. Your dogs definitely got your back. But whos got your back when you need legal help . We do. Were legalzoom, and over the last 10 years, weve helped millions of people protect their families and run their businesses. We have the right people onhand to answer your questions backed by a trusted network of attorneys. So visit us today for legal help you can count on. Legalzoom. Legal help is here. Id rather do anything else than sit at a dealership. Its a lot of haggling and it takes so long. Craigs experience is completely different than mine. Yeah. Yes, mike has used truecar. At truecar, well show you how much others paid for the car you want and how much you should. Because i used truecar there was no haggling about the price. They treated me so well, and it was just such a quick, easy experience. Get your car, and get back to the life you love. Welcome to the future of carbuying. Stossel the moscow subway its almost beautiful. Stained glass and chandeliers in some stations. And its very efficient. The government decided it needed to move lots of people without creating surface traffic jams and more air pollution. So it poured money into the subway. The result is clean fast trains that come so often, you seldom have to wait. During the rush hour a train stops every minute. Stossel oh, i was young then. That was one of my 20 20 reports when russia was still communist. And the subway was nice. I think there were plenty communists too at abc who wanted me to point out good things about communism. They said in communist countries, you didnt have to worry about health care or finding a job, youre taken care of. Then, of course, people in the soviet union rebelled. And it became clear that communism did not work. Thousands and thousands of west germans come to make the point that the wall has suddenly become irrelevant. Stossel i thought, finally people will understand that communism and socialism are not good ideas. But despite the failure of Central Planning everywhere, lots of people still passionately believe in it. Jesse myerson believes in this. Refers to the occupy wall street protest. You call yourself a communist. Thats what you advocate. Thats why you invite me on the show. Youre a smart guy. I talk to you. Whats your reasoning . You can point out all the failures of the soviet regime and all sort of total yaryn regimes. Its easy to point out failures in the capitalist regime. You have millions of people locked in prisons. You have wars constantly. Extraction of resources. They are terrible failures. I wouldnt call it communism, but one of guaranteed jobs and income. The taxation of land value. Public options for banking. These sorts of things is what i will propose in the United States. It doesnt require anything like by you logs. Why hasnt succeeded . A lot of people that have figured out why it doesnt succeed have been 11thist who have the idea of it. They want to do it better than its been done before. We are the richest of we could guarantee security for everybody. Can you imagine the explosion of personal creativity and individual expression that would happen if people were not grinding just to feed their families. . i think it would be a dream a sort of preversely a libertarian fantasy with everyone with the freedom to pursue happiness. I think they have that freedom now. Compared to human history, they live much better lives. Poor people on average have more than one car. They have airconditioners. Tvs. This is not like suffering under communism. I think its very much like suffering under communism. In the soviet union they had tv and refrigerators. These arent the trappings of a full dignified life. Ive spent ten days under communism in the soviet union, communism sucks the life out of people. People just looked sad. They kept their heads down. It wasnt fear of the secret police. Its communist economics. I went to a restaurant that was supposed to indicator to foreigners. I had a reservation and i was on time. . stossel reservation. Yes. Of course, if i were an important official or as my russianspeaking points out. If im an important foreigner, then i get in. The sign on the door said no places. But inside there were empty tables. Diners wait for the food while the waitresses sit around and eat tea. Theres no profitseeking staff to push the staff. This waiter is hiding out in the back. These two guys played with the wine bottles and talked to each other for ten minutes. Meanwhile, the diners wait. My point is that without that greed profitseeking motive, people dont try very hard. And when they are driven by profit and try hard they feel good and create stuff. Thats good. People create stuff for all sorts of reasons. The reason why a musician creates work, theres tons and tons of ways to reward people. The entrepreneurship. The spirit of selfexpressing. Lots of way i see to do that without depriefg people unless they lock themselves in ruthless competition with millions of people also out of work. . in russia, the only place i found a light where people risked their freedom by illegally trying to practice capitalism. Its illegal to buy from foreigners or foreign reporters. If you stand around looking like an american tourist, i guarantee youll be surrounded by buyers. Some wholesale. You want to buy shoes and boots . The hot item ended up being my running shoes. These sneakers. New balance, you know the brand name. It didnt matter that they were wornout. How much you pay for these sneakers . I think like 60. If i give you 100 rubles wow. Thats 150. Thats almost three weeks pay in this country this is a distorted economy. I would say look, there were markets for thousands of years before capitalism came to be. There will be markets that exist after capitalism is over. One way or the other. Communists love a good farmers market. We off of to break the markets and liberate ourselves to be dignified human beings with guaranteed security. Security from the state, and then we will live in commune sharing. Ill call you comrade and well be happy together. That sounds wonderful. Id be so happy. We have to continue this. Some more answers to his arguments, and the democrats case for a comprise between communism and capitalism. My fellow americans we have found a third way. [ male announcer ] we know theyre out there. You cant always see them. But its our job to find them. The answers. The solutions. The innovations. All waiting to help us build Something Better. Something more amazing. A safer, cleaner brighter future. At boeing, thats what building Something Better is all about. Stossel capitalism is an evil system set up to benefit the few at the expense of the many. Okay. Thats film maker michael moore. We expect nonsense from him. But hes not alone. My last guest was big on communism. When i interviewed people in times square about capitalism and poverty. Capitalism i think, the problem that creates so many poor people. Stossel capitalism creates poor people . I suppose thats true if your definition of poor is having less than certainly wealthy people. But where capitalism has allowed true income inequality. Many people say thats bad. Ayn rand said, so what if people have more than others thats part of freedom. Its totally normal. This is just selfish. The communist who just left would say its mean. Well, but thats ridiculous. I mean, the idea take the last comment about the poor. Right . Before capitalism, 300 years ago 99 of the population of the earth were poor. Stossel everybody, but the kings. Everybody, but the kings who stole. They were really stealers were basically poor. Today, everybody including the poor are much, much richer than anybody back then. And its all due to capitalism. All due to freedom. The ability of people to go out there and make and produce at whatever level they can and to feed themselves. And one other thing, we need to be careful not to conflate what we have today with capitalism. What we have today is just a mixed economy. Government run schools. Government run schools. Minimum wages. Welfare state that writes you a check so that you dont work. Tells you not to work. We dont have capitalism today. But when its tried and the extent its tried, china today millions rise out of poverty. One of the Untold Stories really of the last 40, 50 years is the fact that 800 Million People have come out of poverty in Southeast Asia because theyve implemented a little bit of capitalism. And before they did that tens of millions of people were starving to death. When communism is being directly responsible for the brutal murder of well over 100 people, if you take stossel he would say, those were just bad leaders. But the idea of sharing is good. No, the idea of sharing is what directly leads to those kind of the gulags. Why should it have to . The fact is, were not all the same. Were not all equal. Just look around a group of people. Some of us work hard. And some of us dont. Some of us are really smart. And some of us dont. The only way then to make us equal is to take from those who have created and to give it to those. Take sounds soft. Right . Take. But, no, were talking about take. Were talking about pulling out guns. Sticking your hand in your pocket. You may say they dont do that in america. But try not paying your taxes. Men with guns will come to your house and force you to pay or put you in jail. Of course, the more productive you are the more wealth you creative, the more innovative you are, the more they take from you. Thats, in my view, that is inherently unjust. Equality is massively unjust. The idea that we should be forced to be the same when were clearly all so different. When i was in communist russia, people told me that they liked the security that communism gave them. They knew they had a job. I can be sure of tomorrow. Thats the thing i like. I can be sure of my work. What kind of freedom in the United States . Tough freedom. You have to worry about your life or your apartment. Stossel americans have to worry. Life requires worrying. Life requires a certain amount of stress. Thats what it is. So they want to live off someone else worrying. Someone has to produce the stuff they live off. Look, there will always be people who want it easy and want to just get by. I worked with someone who came from the soviet union who was complaining that he had to go into the Grocery Store and choose between eight different types of toilet paper. That upset him. But the fact is, and you said it earlier on the show, they were gray. They were unhappy. They looked miserable. And that is what that kind of life, if you dont challenge yourself, if you dont have a little bit of anxiety in life, if youre not a little pushed. If youre not trying to strive towards something, life becomes dull boring, and meaningless, and to a lot of these people, it did. And its still dull and bad in russia. In some countries poland Czech Republic, they brought joy. And its vibrating and dynamic. And the reason in russia they took one authoritarian system, communism and replaced it with another authoritarian system and called it fascism. Its state control either way. Thank you. Coming up, the people who resisted communism not with guns but by singing. Stossel when the russians showed off weaponry like that, i assumed the only thing that might defeat that was more weapons. And yet reason magazineeditor matt welch said thats not what happened. I thought thats what brought the soviets. Reagans arms build up. Its not the only thing that happened. Reagan and the United States and the west were certainly very important. When gorbachev decided not to crack down on germany with force of arms which had been the soviet way. That allowed these things to happen. However, there were very popularity anticommunist revolutionaries all throughout Eastern Europe that very much helped this thing to happen. And they didnt do it generally speaking by firing a single shot. They did it through principled disdense, protesting and acts of art. In czech, it was art. The velvet revolution. What was that . Art rock band from new york city smuggled in a tape in prague in 1968. It lit on fire people there. A rock band that called itself the plastic people of the universe that play a lot of velvet underground covers. All of it was forbidden. These guys were thrown in jail in 1976 for disturbing the peace because they grew their hair long and played unauthorized rock music. They finally said, thats it. Enough is enough. . they formed charter 77, the single most anticommunist group ever formed in the world. They decided it to defend a rock band basically from unjust persecution. Stossel in east germany Bruce Springsteen was allowed to perform and he sang born in the usa. Look at the size of the crowd that was there. Im amazed they allowed this. They helped bring freedom to east germany . I would argue that it did. When you see the Liberating Force of rock n roll music. And all these east germans singing born in the usa. And saying they wanted to tear down these barriers which meant the wall in berlin. You did the story on dallas in romania. They only had four hours of division a day. Two hours generally speaking was dallas. They proved it stossel it was going to show the excess of the evil decadence. They would show woody or critics of the american system. People who live in captive countries see this as, oh, my gosh, these people actually have freedom of expression which we dont have. Thats great. Meanwhile, look at that cadillac. Are you kidding . Those women can drink and hold huge shopping bags and do what they want. In romania dallas was the single biggest cultural force in that country. The velvet revolution was started by students. People exactly my age. I went there in 99. Back when the store was still called store and there was nothing to buy there except for potatoes and onions maybe. That ruftion revolution was inspired by art industry artist industry and freedom of expression. One last example occurred in aestonia. . people in that country suffered horribly under soviet oppression. In one night, 10,000 men, women and children were taken from their homes. Loaded into cattle cars. And shipped to slave labor camps in siberia. They lived under soviet rule for about 50 years. But even before the berlin wall fell, some stonians resisted. People in estonia waved the flag and danced and sang. Today, they call at it singing revolution. At one point nearly a third of all stonians showed up and sang. The soviets tried to stop this protest by sending troops to seize the radio station. But stonians linked arms and delayed the soldiers. Eventually the soldiers backed off. Just people saying no more. Yeah, what happens when enough people just say, forget it. Im no longer going to listen to what youre telling me to do and to not do. That is as he predicted during communism, back in 1975, that moment becomes when everything is exposed as being a thin tissue and suddenly people can break through and express their freedom. Thank you, matt welch. That happened to our Big Government regulatory state . I doubt it. Its clear that communism doesnt work. Will american politicians embrace capitalism . Probably not. My fellow americans we have found a third way. 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Capitalism but smothered in government. You could render a practice but obamacare sets the rules banks can invest but they better obey every word with dodd frank. Becoming Prime Minister of the Czech Republic after the soviet union fell is the fastest route to the third world. I think he was wrong. Actual communism is faster but this third way is battle so because people cannot prosper with this when there are so many rules. Politicians say they make life fair but years of consumer reporting taught me that life is harassment were free to make our own decisions. I have already figured that out by the time abc said to me to russia. Part of the problem is the way decisions are met the made. Contrast with the u. S. In decapolis society that people have to say what is produced because we vote with our dollars progress we like a product we will buy more and manufacturers will make more because they want to make money in the only way to make money is to give the public what it wants. If our economy was centrally planned then the government would set production levels and president reagan may order tons of freight sinatra records but not very many twisted sister. Said you have long lines and shortages of the soviet union. Capitalism is not perfect some light and sun used political connections for special privileges but that is the exception. Desire real capitalism. Real capitalism is good because it is voluntary and transactions only happen with both parties are happy most every day i bite something in and every time it happens they say thank you. Thank you. And so do i. It is the odd moment thank you. Why . Because she wanted the dollar more than she went to the coffee and i wanted the coffee more. We both went but when the transaction does not have been to did leftists will claim one part explains the other americans are taught the propaganda some say it is true the shopkeeper exploited me or vice versa. The and the automatic think your moment tells the truth the relationship is fair not because the two parties are equal but capitalism is voluntary so nothing is sold beseech party thinks became ahead. The free market is voluntary and government is force. Voluntary is better. That is ever show. See you next week for a new episode in the new time slot on lou. Happy valentines day. Have fun. Good night. Neil the isis threats are growing fast. Why is Congress Moving in slow . Welcome, everybody. Im tom sullivan in for neil cavuto. D. C. Is a ghost town. . lawmakers are on a weeklong recess. Thats leaving grow a pair author larry wondering, where is the urgency . Larry, where is it. I dont see a sense of urgency. Do you . They seem to be unwilling on a lot of levels to sit down and talk this through. Unwilling to comprise give or take. Unwilling to make a decision. Because decisions have consequences, like losing your job if you dont