one of the things to discuss, there aren't enough billionaires in the world to pay for what elizabeth warren is putting out there. so when it comes to wealth and creating wealth, is that inherently bad, inherently evil? the messaging that republicans need to discuss is the fact that when somebody makes money, when a corporation makes money, they employ people and people who work for a company that they like, that they're treated well, that they stay there. that's a message that needs to get out there and i think that bill gates coming out and taking elizabeth warren on and a statement here is how much i par in taxes, do i have to pay this much. >> she makes it seem like a minuscule amount, a couple of pennies and add it up, 7, 8, 10 million more. >> and more in the calculated, bill gates would have to pay 4 had to 6 billion more in taxes. and i think the question is, for democrats, versus republicans on this, democrats have shown they're willing to show they're on the side some

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