charge in the fight for fairness in women's sports, joining athletes outside the ncaa phoenix convention demanding leaders meet with those affected by their trans policies. riley gaines joins us now. it's great to see you. you went in person to deliver this letter. how were you received? >> i was received -- i went to the conference last year and i went to the conference as a nominee for ncaa woman of the year, the most prestigious honor. but this was not exclusive to just women. university of pennsylvania and ncaa nominatedly yaed leah thoms well. we delivered a petition, a legal demand letter. went back this year to do the exact same thing because over the course of the past year the ncaa hasn't changed policies.