and that a leads to a predicament because when you have a gop lead leader receiving help that that will mind mine him with his -- undermine him with his right flank, and you saw that with former speaker mccarthy, and he did not seek democratic aid and he ultimately was ousted. johnson's in that same situation, and we're going to see if democrats do help him, and some say they will -- howard: in exchange for? the. >> that's the question. howard: the democrats got what they wanted which was -- because there's a much greater split within the gop, at least the house gop, over aid to ukraine as opposed to israel was passed overwhelmingly. so this shows it was bipartisan support all along. there is a consensus that mike johnson is a lame duck and can't win the job next january. >> i hear more and more from republicans that they don't expect him to survive especially if house republicans lose the majority. at that point, you're going to see a race with several of the front names we've seen before.