change that dynamic. that's their priority and i understand that. this will have a real world impact. >> this not how you do it. >> laura: shaming and bullying them and fining them. we talked to joseph and they will be hit with massive fines when they can't afford barely to stay in business. think about the people that's affecting. >> and the new professionals in charge of checking, let me see your papers, that person is likely not going to be a low income or a minority. this is an amazing set of circumstances. as i said, i am not too old to remember 2020 when i was told that by the way, an i.d. card that everybody uses for all activity its, if you find one person that can't go vote because they never got their