point. >> martha: we her from chancellor stoltz says nato won't get involved. the other thing i want to ask you about is potential for negotiation. the spokesperson for the kremlin, he said the ukrainians are dragging their feet. we're ready to work around the clock. he thinks they're not at the same pace. what does that tell you where the russians are and how do you read that statement? >> i the read the russians of being in a position where they understand they're bogged down militarily on the ground. a point that isn't being made much here like the firing in to mariupol, the russians are now using stand-off missiles, right? some of these long range cruise middles are being fired from