Details of the meetings and who was there. I am much more interested in what it says about our political culture, the fact you have got two sides. You have got half the country who thinks this is the worst thing that ever happened and the only thing we should be talking about. And the other half looks at that and thinks its crazy. Kimberly its old news in terms are terms in terms of russia trying to point fear with elections around the world. Should we be concerned about it . Absolutely. Its become more a whole thing about delusions. People are delusional about the collusion. They are not getting anything done so the working class, Men And Women across this tridont want knowing do with that. They want food on the table, jobs, something done about
healthcare and they want washington to get to work. But washington is sick. They are weighted down with all this and its become very ineffective and all they do is s bloviate on and on about this. Donald trump was ushered in to change things and shake it up. Well see if mueller comes to some kinds of conclusion relatively quickly. I hope he does for the sake of the country and the goodwill with everybody. This obsession is so unhealthy and counter productive to everything we are spotted to stand for. People rrnlt work on them, they are focusing on this obsession with russia. Steve a great summary. Whatever side you come from. Lucy, from the left, do you
think there is anyone in the democrats or just on the left generally handling this right who is speaking up for working people . I think in general d. C. Always had a problem walk and chewing gum at the same time. Democrats did it because they had to take attention way from the election. Now its literally just really a problematic with d. C. In general. The American People should be hearing about whats happening to the healthcare debate, and the fact so many people are about to lose necessary and Critical Healthcare services and here we are going on and on. I think its us. I think it the the show, those of us who continue to be try
stuff that people are obsessed with. Steve on that side, i think kim makes a good point. You have the democrats who lost touch, but the one person who didnt is bernie sanders. It seems to me there is a lot of people attacking him, his wife, all this stuff about land deals and trying to tarnish him. There is a story in the New York Times today. When we talk about decadent d. C. Is bernie cant be bought. Bernie crowd funded the majority of his campaign. He raised hundreds of millions of dollars from every day people giving small amounts of money. And thats the kind of people, and thats why at the same time people gravitated the towards
someone like donald trump. They feel like they are outsiders and there is a tendency to not want people to have some kind of loyalty to the insider Lobbyist Class Writing The Donor class, et cetera. Thats what people want. They want this outsider. However, i have to say in terms of what donald trump has done to bring real change to d. C. , i havent seen it there either. Steve i actually agree. I said the first time i was on the show, well hold him to account. Kimberly im not interested in turning this into a republican versus a democratic theme. The conversations needs to be about who are these people . If they were donald trump, i would say fantastic, im not that party but hes draining the swamp. I think the American People want that outsider perspective. The person who is not obligate to this insider decadent d. C. Class. Steve its not just about the white house. Its also who is in congress. George, i want to leave it with you. Is your sympathy with the outsiders storming the barricades . In general, yes. We are supposed to have a federal government that is highly responsible to peoples needs. Not directly to represent but actively think conceiving of policies to advance peoples interests. They are not doing that. In figure they are probably too directly responsible to people who helped elect them two months earlier. We have such a curtailing of Election Cycle now. Somebody gets into the house. They are running for reelection. Kimberly instead of the interests of people who elected them. Steve there are mindboggling amounts of money made by hospitals. An interview no parent should miss. Education reform in america. How can we get powerful Teachers Unions to put the interests of the children first. We grilled up revolutionary food in our parking lot and kimberly will try it out later in the show. Stranglehold teachers had on the city. Hes running for governor. Hes talking about how he did the and how it might happen nationwide. To me this issue is so fundamental. And often its a leftright thing. But you showed it doesnt need to be. Tell us when you were mayor of los angeles, what you did and how you did it. Its the economic and civil rights issue of our time, particularly when you look at whos not getting educated. They are primarily poor kids of color. When i became mayor we had a 44 Graduation Rate. I took it on. I didnt take it on to take on the Teachers Union or the other bureaucrats. I wanted to fight for kid, and i
did. We set High Standard. We are going to say i believe in you, i will invest in you. We moved our Graduation Rates from 44 to 72 . I took in a subset of the schools with 36 Graduation Rate and they now have 84 . Steve when you say take it on. What was the reform . I got the 8 to give the mayor the opportunity to partner with the School District. When we passed that. Arnold schwarzenegger signed it, a Democratic Legislature passed it. The School District sued and fought. So we decided to elect a school board that was supportive of our efforts to put kids first. That helps create a situation
where we doubled the number of Successful Schools at 800 and above and increased the Graduation Rate. Steve the system itself wasnt going to deliver results. It was clear they werent. The high school i graduated from had a 20 Graduation Rate in 2001. When i became mayor in 2005, they improved to a 35 . Steve you actually at one point were an organizer for the Teachers Union. But you werent called the united Teachers Union. What was the one roadblock . They didnt like the. Im pro union and pro teacher. They have a tough job. But im pro kid. I believe in unions, i think parents ought to have one, and i
think kids dont have one so i was going to fight for them. Thats what we did. You talked about the innovation economy, we wont have one if these kids arent graduating from high school. We are in a state with 80 Graduation Rate. 13 of the kid of color are going to fouryear colleges. Thats not a recipe for success. The next governor will have to set High Standard and Bring Technology into our classrooms. Rethink what schools look like. We pattern our schools including the school year after an agrarian economy that doesnt make sense. Steve i talked about it, too. They like factory schools. They are churning out kids like they are on a production line. Its often it is the institutions, the existing
school boards and the unions and people who invested in the status quo in the way of change and you took that on. I am interested in what that felt like. For you as a politician from the left, what did it feel like . I wasnt looking for a fight. But i grew up in a tough neighborhood and i wasnt afraid of a fight. I tried to partner for a couple years. But when there was opposition after opposition to anything that was new, we started to push back. Steve thats the kind of leadership i think you have got to see. Otherwise it will all stay the same. This isnt left or right. This is the right thing to do for kids who without that kind of advocacy, we are not making enough progress. Steve totally agree. Thanks for coming on. Next the panel joins to us talk about the same topic. The state of our countrys Education System and what we can do about it. Hospitals are places of healing. But did you know they contribute to our nations swampy politic. The next revolution is coming right back. And i did not get it back. That affected my next campaign. Many of us who do oppose who for the most of part are friends. When we have to say in this situation yes we are still friends, but this is whats important, what we are going to accomplish for these children, it Doesnt Go Very Well for us. Steve require shouldnt be a leftright thing. It shouldnt. I prefer a partnership. At some point people will realize thats the best way to go forward. But im going to fight for those kids. I was one of them. If i grew up in a home with chog and drugs and i was a high school dropout. I group like many of them, we
were making too many excuses before. And those excuses arent acceptable. Its just a fact. Steve joe, it isnt something you can just fix from on high by some bureaucrat telling. You need changes. Its a structural problem. Economists have studied this for decades. Maybe you have unions in the car factories. But the idea of a Public Sector union where not on are they bargaining collectively to extract as much as they can, but they are also hoping to elect their bosses with whom they are bargaining. Steve you expect to be governor. You are trying hard. Just in terms of the debt and the fiscal position of california. Thats a big issue for any politician running for office. It is a big issue and i have a track record. We were facing a bankruptcy. Almost everybody said l. A. Was going bankrupt. I got current employees to go from 6 to 1 contribution to their pension. Then i said, instead of getting 100 of their salary at 55 would get 50 at 65. Unfortunately they changed that after i left now its back to where it was. Kim rrp i have some strong opinions about education, having
worked as a teacher and been an educator. I caught kindergarten through high school, and specializing in children with emotional needs. I saw how poor the system is in some of these Public Schools where you have children being treated not as individuals but as a collective group. Its important to bring education away from the National Level like to common core. Its not one size fits all. Take it down to the local level and make it tailored for a childs need. And give parents some of that choice to be a success with Charter Schools and the parents being participatory in it. And i would like to see reform. You should reward good teachers. Steve this is something you did in terms of the performance in
teachers . Yes, we said we thought it was important top evaluate our teachers. We have done surveys that showed oftentimes the principal hadnt been in a classroom but would evaluate these people and oftentimes give them a satisfactory or better evaluation. What we said is you have got to go into the classroom. And we should be able to evaluate on a number of factors including where a kid starts and where they ends up. Not the only factor, but one of the factors. I think it many important to talk about accountability across the board. There are just as bad charters and there are bad Public Schools. We need accountability at all levels whether its public or private. Steve thats a fair point. If we had more of a marketplace
you could get a level playing field. I appreciate you joining us tonight. Still ahead. Kimberly and the panel taste test a special bigger. Hospitals drain save lives but n wallets. Brupss. The reason republicans are having such problems reforming obamacare is it all costs so much. We showed how the pharmaceutical industry and its corrupt stooges in Congress Keep drug prices high. Tonight well talk about the Role Hospitals play. Hospitals sounds like charitable institutions. Most of of them avoid paying tax because they are charitable nonprofits. The local hospital with your friendly doctor has been replaced by vast mega hospitals run by administrators in multi million done a packages. Like michael dowling. He raked in 10 million a year. Lets all join a nonprofit. The insanely expensive Hospital Bills you get. If you are a gogetting chief executive, Healthcare Or Farm or pharmaceuticals is the business to be in. Those in healthcare and pharmaceuticals were paid 37 million more than any other sector. Communications, real estate and industrials dont even come close. A Wall Street Journal analysis found the largest nonprofit Compensation Package went to a nonprofit ascension. I have nothing against high pay. I believe in markets and people who create value in the marketplace should be rewarded. But its got to be fair. Especially in healthcare where there is a lot of Taxpayer Money Sloshing around. The reason hospitals can pay their boss so much is they charge so much either through your insurance or tax for obscene amounts of money. They have a Charge Master. The Charge Master price isnt based on cost. Even something as simple as a pack of gauze pads can some of the 70. If you want to save money you want to check it out. It even comes from free twoday
shipping. But how do they get away from this profiteering . Simple, squeeze out the competition. We have seen wave after wave of mergers of hospitals. A study look at Hospital Mergers found they didnt improve quality of care and Hospital Consolidation generally results in higher prices. When hospitals morning in already concentrated markets, the Price Increase can be dramatic. Often exceeding 20 . They are not just harming patients, they are also costing taxpayers while Making Politicians super healthy. Rick scott, the same rick scott who is not you republican governor of florida. He was won chairman of the Hospital Network and had the
swampy distinction of presiding over the largest fraud in u. S. History. The hospital corporation. America paid a 1. 7 billion settlement for fraudulently billing Taxpayer Medicare by filing false cost reports. They admitted to giving doctors partnerships in the their Company Hospital as a kickback for those doctors referring patients to the hca. What was the quality of care like . According to the moneydriven medicine, not good. Scott was focused on profits, not patient care. One technician complained about having to watch 72 heart man towards at once. Nurses complained babies in the Neonatal Unit were left unattended for up to 3 hours. Scott who resigned as chairman
of the company got a 10 million settlement and left with 300 million worth of stock and then he somehow got elected of florida and now boasts he helped shape the gop plan to repeal and replace obamacare. Great, just the kind of person you want involved. Nonprofit has gotten in on the racket as well by price fixing and Building Super monopolies. Upmc controls 55 of the market, recorded 13 billion in revenue. Quite the charity. Meanwhile the regions main Health Insurer controlled between 60 to 80 of the market. As steven brill documents in his book by bitter pill. He cording to the complaint the hospital and insurer were colluding to eliminate competition and drive up prices, harming the patient they are supposed to care about. High mark agreed to pay sharp increases because it could raise premiums with no fear of competition. Guess how much the ceo of this tax exempt nonprofit hospital was making . 4 million a year. Even regular doctors are in on the racket. Doctors refer patient to each other and keep patients in hospital longer than necessary risking picking up infection just to make more money. While you are watching the point scoring over the Senate Healthcare bill just remember its all beside the point unless the grandstanding politicians in the pockets of the Health Triactually do something about healthcare costs. That will only happen if we drain the health swamp. I cant wait to get stuck into the Health Insurance companies next week. Dont mitts. The panel reacts to this weeks swamp watch. And can this burger revolution revolutionize. Kimberly and the panel put the burger to the taste test. Dont miss it. For years, centurylink has been promising fast internet to small businesses. But for many businesses, its out of reach. Why promise something you cant deliver . Comcast business is different. We deliver superfast internet with speeds of 250 megabits per second across our entire network, to more companies, in more locations, than centurylink. We do business where you do business. Reimbursement. Get guess what, they will set high prices. You sell watches. Steve how do they get away with it . In some places there is competition. In Northern California there are two hospitals. The selfcontained system works better. Stanford university is beautiful where a robot dispenses the drugs for you. I think this is. The really hot topic people are talking about, people have been whining about obamacare and healthcare for years. Now they have the house and the congress, the senate, the oval. Now they have to do something about it. There is a real lack of
competition. Im a big free marketer. And it bothers me when i see monopolies of hospitals. And its squeezing profits at the expense of quality of care its become so transitional that you are losing the ability to focus on the individual coming Family Members trying to get Affordable Care to the point where people are afraid to get it. They are making choices which makes us sicker as a nation, and people arent taking care of themselves. Steve whats interesting is thats not in the conversation in this bill. We dont talk about the competition. Im Asupporter Of Universal Healthcare for all. Single payer expansion of medicare. Whatever that looks like, i think to kims point, when you start to put profits over people, profits over good
healthcare, then thats always a recipe for disaster. Ultimately when you have someone whose Job Description is to get the most of amount of money, the most of amount of profits for his investors, then thats what hes going to do. Steve i want to make it clear, i believe in the Profit Motive. I think its a driving force. For many of the good things we see in the world. But it on works if we have cop mettive markets. Kim i believe you can achieve that. There should be payment of costs for the far Suit Cal Companies and providers and that can be achieved under a singlepayer system. But you have to remove the Profit Motive out of the entire system. Kimberly venezuela. Who wants to go there for medical care. We are the youth, we can figure this out. Thats what our elected representatives are supposed to be doing for us theoretically. We can figure this out. Steve as we know, this is a debate that will go on and on. Im pleased we got to talk about some the aspects of it. So many places where we agree. Steve well do it again and figure it next time. You have seen her food reviews on the five. But how will Kimberly Guilfoyle rate a revolutionary new delicacy. People are developing a taste for meat and the budgets pay fo . It. That is just not sustainable what is the verdict . I give it a ten. It is good. I have to say. Sidebyside taste test with9 ne burger made of preferred this. Itsyzn . n . Very juicy, rn . n . I suggest you wear of the above sorts. For those of us who do care about and think about our impact on the environment, this is so
good. There is an incredibly interesting story here. If it didnt taste good, i wouldnt do it. Thank you very much. If you want to try and impossible burger in california, you can find them at that amount may burger. Before we leave you tonight i want to thank our panel and say thank you to you for joining us. Im steve hilton