Big city highway . Tonight the cop who got justice for baby hope. And rounding up more of the biker bandits who busted up the guy in the land rover. [ inaudible ]. Tonight, debating gloria allred. An innocent victim trying to help the driver of the suv when he was run over. Is he broken biker client a victim or a perp. And the end of a tumultuous week in washington. This is a terrible deal. This deal embodies everything about the washington establishment. That frustrates the American People. The debt ceiling catastrophe narrowly averted. Still waging allout war on obama care. Obama care isnt working,able not only isnt it working, it s is not working fast enough. Now, senator cruz has a new target. President obama has said that the day after the budget d. C. Made hes going to come up on immigration. Yeah. Yes. Says hell start by deporting ted cruz. Up front tonight, was the frenzy worth it . I would do anything, and i will continue to do anything i can, to stop the train wreck that is obama care. Did the cruz missile, its unchastened by the disaster he has brought on the Republican Party . Should he be . Is he now the real captain of the gop ship . To debate and discuss that point with me in boston, americas most famous lawyer Alan Dershowitz joins us. Professor dershowitz, welcome onboard. Taking the stand, his big hit autobiography out now. Here at home base we welcome the cohost of the five my best frenemy, eric bolling joins us. So should he be first of all, can i youre pointing a finger at ted cruz for something you perceive that, as terrible. Right . I think theres a whole group of the american conservative base that says ted cruz stood up, stood up what we believe in, did the right thing. Not the way you painted it. As a disaster that he oversought or captained, instead of what it really was. It was an enlightening moment for the American People. They found out who are conservatives and who arent on the right. Second part of your question, the new de facto leader of the Republican Party. I dont think so. I think he showed the American People that the right has two factions. Establishment right and conservative right and i think the real leaders may be the ones who are playing the background, rand paul, chris christie, marco rubio. With you but never came forward and made themselves as local and obvious at ted cruz did. Watch for those three. You said he was flirting with acting in an unconstitutional manner, senator ted cruz. Do you still believe that and you can also followup on what eric said. Ted was my student. A brilliant student. Always very, very principled. Came into my class with his righthand raise and never put it down and he doesnt surprise me. I think he is a man of principle. I think move on, the Left Wing Organization that yesterday announced they want to indict people on the right, people who are republicans, people involved in this are absurd. I would be thrilled to defend ted cruz or any of the other republicans on the right, though i disagree with them. Their punishment will come from the electorate, not the crim gnat justice system. Ted cruz and others are the greatest gift to the democratic party. Your previous guess was right. It Shows Division among republicans and americans according to polls dont like what they see about the republicans. They dont like people who want to shut down the government. So i think this is a political debate. It should be played out politically, not in a legal system. And i think in the end, cruz will lose. And he will hurt the republicans. And in one way he may not care, because she a man of principle, and he wants to do the right thing. If a new president kennedy were to write a book called profiles in courage ted cruz may fit into the that book. He is a profile in courage. s although on the wrong side of history and the wrong side of what best for america, but she a man of principle. With all due respect, i absolutely acknowledge his constitutional understanding, and knowledge, but i would have to say, stay out of the economics boardroom, because thats where youre failing. There was no risk of default. There was never a risk of default. Weve taken 250 billion a month, service our get, it says we have to in our constitution, i agree with. Service our debt to the tune of 24 billion. There is no fiscal chance we would ever default. So there was nobody you cant take a chance with the american economy. Of course you can. How are you going to default when you take in ten times more than what servicing your debt costs . Its not going to happen. Its a matter of perception. A matter of what the world, the economy thinks about us, and perception has made america the laughingstock of the rest of the world. Disagree. You know why i disagree . The bond market disagrees, the stock market, all the markets. The global markets, all global, disagree with you vehemently. New highs in the s p. Please. No resolution. What it costs to borrow. It youre right and the left is right, all of these thing s woud be happening. Double to borrow money from china. Wait a second. It did hold on, though. Back below before the whole shut down. You lefties in the media and all that, professors, blow a big horn saying all of academia. I love the way youre scientific. Okay. Wait bottom line, no disaster, and never a threat of disaster. Professor got it. Now, wait a second. Heres my question. It costs me cost the american taxpayer 24 billion. In other words, 24 billion because of the shutdown was added to the deficit that the right is constantly complaining about. It comes to 70 per head. Im the father of five children. Ted cruz cost me that 350, plus 140 for me, erica, my wife and everybody else i support. Is fiscally responsible for a conserve toiv do something that cost the treasury money . Im laughing. Liberals talking fiscal responsibility now. President obama tacked on so far, has tacked on almost 7 trillion in debt. All the debt, if you add up all the debt between George Washington and george bush, doesnt even include, couldnt even exceed the 7 trillion that president obama put out. I have to tell you, its worth can i Say Something here . Has to be calculated. Hold it there. Professor dershowitz, youll get your chance for rebuttal. Folks, later in the show were probe the latest screwup by the Justice Department involving the transfer of, get this, hand grenade, to mexican drug dealers, and well meet the could be who unravelled the baby hope mystery, right after this. Bold has a huge imagination. 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When it comes to telling people that theres not going to be preexisting conditions that will disqualify them, that theyre not going to have to give up personal doctors if they want to pay for them, but that every american like every person in massachusetts has the right to health care. The United States constitution provides for the general welfare. Are you now saying that the Commerce Clause would not allow the United States supreme court, even chief justice roberts, upheld it, under the commerce laws and under the taxing power. You can have that debate. You dont engage in extortion shut down the government and on the other side, the left shouldnt engage in threatening this conduct, threatening the way move on does. I challenge the extremes. Right and extremes of the left i challenge you eric bolling i challenge you to show me in a document where it says that the government can tell me i have to buy a good or service . And the way they it and got around it, was by instead of calling it a fee they called it a tax. Ill tell you where its at. The same provision of the constitution that says your child has to be vaccinated. The same provision. Constitution that says your son has to serve in the armed forces. We sometimes have to compel people to do things that they may not choose to do in the general interests of the United States. Here youre being compelled to do something i totally disagree. Your comment was that senator cruz upheld the american the hostages, whatever terms you used. Extortion. Fine. Extortion, great. Same thing. So what are fiscal conservatives supposed to do . If Congress Holds the checkbook . In an election run. Win elections. Hold on. Finish your point. The constitution, gives a checkbook, the pen to write the checks to congress, and congress is to the house, and the house is held by republicans, and republicans want to say before i sign up another trillion or two or three trillion in debt i want to discuss how we spend that trillion or two or three in debt. How america spends it. Why . Theyre playing by the rules, sir. Absolutely. Let me tell you how other countries now deal with this. For example, recently in israel they tried to do the same thing and passed a new statute saying if the knesseknesset, the congr refuses to country the government automatically certain things come into play. Thats the way it should work here. Either side should not be able to extort. I dont apreserve of the filibuster or in i believe in democracy. That means you run for election. And people write a check let me finish. Harvard have you teach your it children constitutional lauer . Youre basically saying you can do as long as i god bless you. All right. Hold it. Im going to you can have im going to impose my moderators position here, because were running out of time. I finally want to ask, i mentioned Immigration Reform. Ted cruz has a soft target with Immigration Reform. Dont you agree, eric, he can sabotage president obamas aspiration and in doing so damage gop prospects, because latino voters wont go to the Republican Party . Im interested to hear what ted cruzs full plan is and as well what marco rubios plan is. I have an alternate plan. Talking about the privatized i have an idea, geraldo. If want to let the 11 Million People here stay here, fine. When they turn 18, or 30, have to serve a year in the military. A good idea. And in terms of Immigration Reform . The president Immigration Reform one of the most important things we have in this country. I wouldnt be here today, geraldo. You wouldnt be here today. Half of the nobel Prize Winners wouldnt be here. Many of my family came here illegally during the holocaust, became great and wonderful citizens. We are a nation of immigrants. Lets maintain that tradition and keep or borders open, consistent with national security, the safety and welfare of this country. So i welcome the obama plarch and oppose the cruz plan. And thats the professor. Eric, last word. Senator cruz did everything by the book, sir. The book you teach ensingle day to your students. I apologize if it was rude. I cant believe parents wript checks to harvard to have their kids learn constitutional law. Apologized then said it again. Your interpretation of the constitution varies vastly and widely from mine. My friend eric bolling. Love being on tv with that guy as i do you, professor. And the october oh biography, and ladies and gentlemen, we and ladies and gentlemen, we shall return after if youve got it, you know how hard it can be to breathe and man, you know how that feels. 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And now vince apparently turning the other cheek as the bad guys in mexico are getting and using hand grenades that come from the United States. How in the world did this thing happen . Well, it was just a comedy of errors under the same vacuum of leadership that was going on. It wasnt part and parcel of fast and furious investigation. It was it was dynamic in its own way, but clearly, the leadership of the Phoenix Field Division at the time that was responsible for fast and furious did not enhance our abilities to prevent the componentry from going into mexico. Thats a fact. All right tell me about this guy. He had grenades, or grenade parts, and he walked the grenade parts into mexico, reassembled them, gave them to the Mexican Drug Cartel and the atf knew about it . Is that a fact . Well, thats thats a stretch of some of the facts. He definitely had some of the componentry, the bodies. Which in and of itself not illegal in the United States, but clearly would have and did, in fact, for some of our agent, raise huge red flags when they wanted to act on it they were prevented from doing so. And you know, with limited legal justification, since they arent illegal in the United States as an individual component. Against the better judgment of the at tatache in mexico who dit want to participate, they went across the border, were later assembled and we know from the significant incident report this week that theyre reassembled into destructive device and used in a pretty major shootout last week. Whats the idea . Why in the world are we allowing grenade components to go to mexico and into the hands of the drug cartel . Is the idea that they get the grenades and use the grenades, so we know whos using the grenades, so they kill people with our stuff and then what . No. That that goes back to the fast and furious philosophy, and we know how that turned out. This particular case, there was some, again, you had a a rogue leadership in the Phoenix Field Division with the support of atf headquarters not wanting to rein them in. The agents were fully prepared to go ahead and seize those componentries, and let them deal with the consequences or explain his purposes, but there was such a vacuum and lack of communication and refusal of phoenix bosses to cooperate with the attache in mexico who prishgt predicted this would happen, it fell apart. Its a failure of leadership is what it was. No way the agents were going to allow that to happen. Vince, stand by. Radio host j. D. Hayworth, former republican congressman from arizona joins us. What is this . Vince isic maing distinctions here. Is this fast and furious 2. 0 . Havent we learned anything . Heres whats going on, and i appreciate vinces focus on atf. Lets also understand what was at work here. The United States attorney who put all of this into motion, the former righthand man or should i say lefthand man of janet napolitano, played an active role not only in fast and furious but it appears his fingerprints are all over this decision not to go after batiste, the guy dealing with hand grenades. An unwillingness to prosecute from this Justice Department and to complete the fast and furious 2. 4, geraldo, youre taking a look at something where president obama has lowered a protective curtain of executive privilege over attorney general eric holder, as for secretary napolitano, she, of course, is not absconded to california running the uc system, and i guess the lesson to be learned is, open borders, illegals and lawlessness on our border with mexico and weapons smuggling into mexico in the perverse notion somehow you can reflect unfavorably on law abiding americans exercising their Second Amendment rights, the fast and furious from the crowd in charge right now, and dennis burk, janet napolitano, eric holder and president obama have not been held accountable. J. D. , obviously, putting a political spin on this. No. Thats not a political spin, geraldo. I got it. I heard the i heard you. Richard nixon had said it was executive privilege that covered all of watergate, you would have been livid. It is not political im livid enough. Livid enough, congressman. Let me give vince the last word before we run out of time. I know youve got a lawsuit with the atf. Can you give me a few seconds how thats going . Yeah. It still boils back down to nobody who had their hands in the decisions of fast and furious or any of the debacles that we exposed through our collective interviews and whistleblowing has suffered at all. Not one person has been fired or demoted. The architect, the gentleman who lied to Congress Went out the door with a gold i ran out of time, michael, tell us why you used priceline express deals to book this fabulous hotel. Well you can see if a hotel is petfriendly before you book it and i got a great deal without bidding. And wheres your furry friend . I dont have a cat. Save up to 50 during pricelines fall hotel sale. 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Million stories in this naked city, but to the cops and detectives who refused to give up on the baby they called hope, it was a grim determination to bring justice to this child, violateed and discarded, but never forgotten. Craig investigates. Early this morning, admitted he sexually assaulted angelica, that he smothered her and then disposes of the body, with the aid of his sister, ms. Ramirez, now deceased. Reporter the end of a tireless investigation by new yorks finest. In custody, 52yearold, the alleged killer of the once nameless vick testimony, baby hope, by cops who paid for her funeral and vowed to capture her killer. 38 years old at the time of the apartment returned to an apartment shared by seven relatives and encountered angelica in the hallway. He said he sexually assaulted the child then smothered her. When she went motionless he summoned his sister from another room. He said she directed him to get rid of the body and brought him the cooler. Reporter cops say juarez detailaled how he stuffed her tiny corpse into a cool are and callously dumped her here 22 years ago with the help of his sister. Her short life ended, not forgotten by cops who left a calling card on baby hopes tombstone. Police commissioner ray kelly. All of these efforts, the public outreach, forensic investigation and oldfashioned pavement pounding led detectives friday to juarez residence in the bronx. Reporter july 23, 1991, a construction crew working on the Henry Hudson Parkway finds the cooler, and angelicas body. Eyewitnesses describe a short latinamerican male and woman in high heels dumping the body. They separated and juarez returned to the bronx and his sister to queens. Never to speak of the heinous act again. Until the nypd investigators through their relentless investigation caught up with juarez. Reporter for 22 years as cops desperately searched for clues to baby hopes true identity, family members including her mother who lives in this queen Apartment Building kept quiet about her death. The question is, why . This is the apartment of margarita castillo, the mother of baby hope and lives in an apartment 2c of this queens apartment. Well see if shes home. Margarita castillo . Who is this. Craig rivera with geraldo rivera, fox news channel. I dont want to talk to you guys. Reporter we caught up with baby hopes younger sister, now 27yearold who has children close in age to angelica at the time she was murdered. I cant do this. I cant. I cannot. You have to respect my pain, and im suffering a lot, and i cant do this. Tell me tell me the kind of family that your family was not knowing i know its very upsetting to you. I cant. Reporter baby hopes mom spoke to Spanish Language station ein vision. Right now a lot of people are asking, why didnt you go to police. Coming to a country where someone does not understand the language and you come here with those fears, about arriving at an Office Without knowing the language, and not having a translator to tell them whats happening to you. Reporter what did the father of the girl say . Reporter in a jailhouse interview from Rikers Island prison, he claims he told angelicas another 1995 of her death but left out the part of the body in the cooler. Police say only juarez would know some of the details that he gave about how little angelica died. Fox news contributor and former nypd detective bo dietl. Is there a conspiracy of silence within that family. You know what . The whole question here is just him and his sister knew about it, or were there others that knew about it . I believe the detectives are questioning other people in the house, finding out other evidence if they knew something happened. Reporter whether it be fear or guilt for 22 years an untold number of people kept the true identity of baby hope a secret. But as a result of dogged policework, baby hope now has her name. Angelica castillo, who rests here in peace. Geraldo, back to you. Craig, thanks. Detective jerry, so delighted to welcome him onboard tonight. Has been on the baby hope case really since the childs body was discovered along the west side highway here in new york city. One of the cops who helped pay for the childs tombstone. Nice to see you, man. Terrific. Congratulations on this. Thank you. What was your reaction when you herd the resolution of the case. I was absolutely elated. I mean, i always felt that some day, somewhere, someone would step up. Overheard a conversation or had actual knowledge of the death, and it happened just that way. And what was the big tip jp what was the moment . How did you do it . The tip went to, i believe, crimestoppers, the glchlt pedestri nypd. A woman spoke to a young girl, teenager, i believe, some years ago. At that time the young girl had told her, you see that little girl on the news . Might have been around the anniversary of her death. She said, well, thats my sister, and my mother and father killed her. So it eventually it developed that she had returned. She was in mexico at the time. She didnt hear about it back in 91. Then she came to the city, some years later. And then i dont know the exact details. She found out about it. Let me ask you this, jerry. I moon, youre retired now. When did you retire . July of this year. Of this year. Well, distinguished career, no doubt. When you hear that none of these people told anything to the authorities. They just let the child i mean, first of all, this hideous act by this horrible person, assuming hes guilty, and i have no doubt that she, you have all of these people know a child has been raped and murdered and stuffed in a cooler and no one says anything . Is it really because, because, were they undocumented immigrants . Fearful of being deported . What was it that caused hem not to say anything to authorities . I can only attribute has to people who are very cold and unfeeling. In my opinion, it certainly was more than one or two people that knew of this death, and possibly how she was killed. And they just never all of these excuses about speaking spanish, and illegal, or in the beginning, she was terrorized by her husband. You know, she didnt get along with him, et cetera. I dont believe a single story. Now the defense is trying to come up with a story that he was coerced or beaten or tortured in order to give his statement. His confession. His confession. You have no doubt that hes the guy . Absolutely not. He told it in such detail which actually corroborated some evidence we had at the time. The fact that you stayed on the case, and the fact that you guys chipped in to buy the child a tombstone, that it wasnt just an anonymous victim to you, it was somebody and every year, i remember hearing year after year, baby hope, the baby hope case and now you finally have broken it, and i give you, from the bottom of my heart, krai congratulations. Thank you for the kind words. Thanks for being here. And gloria allred, trying to help. He was crushed when he fled with the motorcycle pack. Gloria and that crushed riders wife are next. The day we rescued riley was a truly amazing day. He was a matted mess in a small cage. So that was our first task, was getting him to wellness. Without angies list, i dont know if we could have found all the services we needed for our riley. From contractors and doctors to dog sitters and landscapers, you can find it all on angies list. We found riley at the shelter, and found everything he needed at angies list. Join today at angieslist. 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Where right now our newest innovations are available with 36month financing. Sleep number. Comfort individualized. Cops here in new york continue rounding up the bikers from the pack that trashed the land rover so infamously in new york city a couple wakes ago, terrorizing the family inside, beating up the drive whir they finally got the car stopped. Were focused on as many as four or five were actually undercover or offduty cops themselves. Named Attorney Gloria Allred wants us to be open minded and not to prejudge her client. Edwin jay the biker crushed when the driver of the surrounded land rover attempted to flee the pack. With gloria diana, jays wife. Thank you for coming here in a geraldo exclusive. Gloria, what do you want us to know about jay . What is new in this case that gives us any reason to be simp theek a member of that pack who so terrorized that family in the land rover . Jay was not a member of a pack. Just riding his motorcycle with a couple of friends and not a member of a gang or anything. And when he was struck by the suv, completely innocent victim. All of what you saw, people kicking helmets and crashing through the windows of the suv, that happened after. At the time that jay was hit, he was standing. He was a pedestrian. He had his back to the suv, and all he was doing was by the way, we have this on video. All he was doing was telling people to move on. He wanted to make sure that even though cruz had his motorcycle bumped a little bit and the suv either bumped that motorcycle or the motorcycle bumped the suv, either way, nobody was hurt, as far as he could see, but everybody was stopped. He just wanted people to move on because its dangerous to be at a standstill on a highway. He had his back to it and then took one step away and all of a sudden the suv runs him over, crushes him. The doctors say theres a 99 probability he will never walk again. Hes an innocent victim. There was no reason for him to be mowed down and crushed. Im at a disadvantage because diane is here and i dont want to overly dwell on the background. Your husband had a terrible driving record. He had no right to be driving that vehicle or any vehicle. He wasnt driving when he was hit. He was standing. A pedestrian. He took his motorcycle down the west side it doesnt matter. He wasnt on it when he was hit. He was a pedestrian. Its not legally relevant how he got there. Rides a bicycle and stops a car, stops the bike, gets off the bike, you cant say wasnt driving. How did he glet there . If he wasnt born he wouldnt have been there eithers. Oh, come on. It was relevant for the suv to run over him. The video shows bikers get back on their bikes. He wanted them to move out. Dangerous to be at a standstill on a highway. Say the driver was in fearsthe suv. He was terrorized. Nothing happened to him at that point. Well, he was stopped by, surrounded by diana, what was your husband doing driving in the wa was your husband doing riding around with the pack, with no license . Not with a pack. With that group of motorcycles . He just bumped into that group. Just by chance . They were the group, they went different ways. I thought he had come to the come to town specifically to ride with them . Theyre that ride was cancelled. I dont understands we see it in the video. Isnt that what he came to the city to do . Yes. So then first of all, how is he . Let me be passionate fluff enou ask you that . Hes in pain. Excruciating pain. Hes just hes i cant say hes doing good, because hes not. What is his condition, exactly. Hes paralyzed, from the waist down. Per nenltly paralyzed . Yes. He had his spine surgery. The results came in. He had a heart surgery as well. And what is the two surgeries and still in the hospital. What is his prognosis . Hes paralyzes. A paraplegic. Not going to walk again and this woman is a hero. Ive never seen a wife like diana. She literally has not been in bed for weeks since the accident. She has been sitting in a chair while hes in icu, flex to his bed, sleeping in the chair when she can, and hes still in the hospital, still in a chair by his bed with him all day long. And you and the innocent victims in this, but you understand, dont you, diana, why people are less than sympathetic about jay . No, i dont. Personally i wouldnt understand why that would be when all he was doing was standing there. Because people put themselves in the place of that family. Why dont they put themselves in the place of the pedestrian who is run down through no fault of his own. 16 moving violations, his right to drive revoked. It doesnt matter. Are you saying that anybody who maybe is driving without, you know, proper documentation, can be run down . And paralyzed for life . That makes no sense, geraldo. I strike out at you. You cant e then blame me for striking out at you if youve terrorized me. Edwin did not terrorize him. Whats happening legally, quickly. When he stepped on the gas, gunned it, and ran over to escape. There was nothing happening at the time. Everything you saw happened after he ran down edwin. Look, diana, to you and your family, i thank you for coming on, and i wish you the best. Thank you. You have a very, very rough road to hoe. Yes, i do. And so do their children, and because, you know, they have two children, and this is very hard you know, as long as you exert a certain amount of control you can do everything. Thats not the case. Myse selfie caused controver, whats your excuse, the title on the handout, the picture showing this mean, lean fitness instructor, mother of three children. She joins us from her home in sacramento. How are you doing . Why did you take the picture . Didnt you know a lot of ladies would say, hey, shes lording over us . Of course not. Who wants any of that feedback. I took the picture i thought it would be motivational for my facebook followers. You see that caps all the time in several different types of inspirational posters. I said here i am, a fit mother. I have three kids 3 and under and i think people will be inspired by this. But are you in a way saying, look at me. Compare me to you. If youve had all of these Young Children and youre complaining about body fat or this or that, not getting your body back. Then youre you just are not working hard enough . Absolutely not. Thats crazy when people say that. Im saying, you know what . Youre a mother, or maybe youre not. Here are three symbols of time. My 3yearold, 2yearold and 8monthold. And i can make fitness a priority. My health a priority. At the mother, the role model of your home, make it a priority. Here in the city, the author of a book the body image Survival Guide for parents helping toddlers, tweens and teens thrive. Marcy is one of marias many critics, i hate to say. Maria, you said it. We see images everywhere. Thats the problem. We see one type of fitness, one type of beauty. Glorified all the time. We assume that the skinniest woman in the room is always the fittest and most muscular guy the strongest. Thats mot not always the case. The healthiest are the ones that work well. Focus on how our bodies work rather han how they look. You can be in the middle, live with moderation, sometimes eat more, sometimes less, go it the gym when you can or not at all but be active and feel good about that. And when youre feel good about that and then told, what its your excuse . Personally, i want to prefer, had you said, this is my challenge. What challenging you. Seems when youre whats your excuse . Asking them to val date or justify their choices. One thing thats really, really important, another thing. Why i wrote what i wrote. Im a bod image advocate. A program called fit versus fiction and talk to kids and talk to parents and i talk to teachers. There are 5yearolds begging their parents not to send them to school because they think theyre too fat to fit in. Seventh graders throwing up their lunch in the bathroom and school because they feel they dont live up to our societys unrealistic expectation of beauty. Thinking theyll never be thin enough because we dont see enough variety. Pe need to show fit bodies come in all shapes and sizes and maybe stot seeing one image. Maria, your response. Obviously, a challenge to be in shape. A lot of priorities in my day because i do work and have to take care of my kids and family. But i understand exactly where youre coming from. There is a body image issue in america. Theres a weight image in america, a Health Crisis in america. Im saying it starts at home. It starts at the parents, starts with the mother especially to be a positive role model, to take care of herself, put at least 30 minutes, 20 minutes, something innier day so she can be a good role model for her children and, therefore, their children can be happy and healthy. One thing, though. I was you at one point. I was super thin. I was very muscular and a fit mom and would never go back to that, because what i i thought i was a great role model getting up extra early to go to the gym and eating really, really clean. I thought that was what i needed. I was showing them how to obsess in calories and overexercise. That was your personal experience. The moms i know and especially myself, were healthy role models and we need more people like myself saying, know what . Im not going to raise a child and say that im unhealthy, because im being a good parent. Im health you because i love my children. But healthy healthsy how our bodies work. One thing. We have to stop shaming people into being skinny and encourage them to be healthy. Weve normalized overweight people in our society. I think that its kind of weve normalized overweight people in our society. Good point. Continued success. Thank you for coming in. The book, the body image Survival Guide. Maria kang you can find on the internet. I started this segment joking about my own selfie, but my point in publishing that, just that you dont have to get crazy but a little fitness makes for a longer, better life, even if you dont ends up looking as lovely and fit as maria. Thats it for im serious, we compare our direct rates side by side to find you a great deal, even if its not with us. [ ding ] oh, thats helpful well, our company does that, too. Actually, we invented that. Its like a sauna in here. Helping you save, even if its not with us now, thats progressive call or click today. No mas pantalones welcome. 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