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Member attacking an nypd officer, putting him in a headlock and drawing cheers from the nearby crowd. Here is the mayor on the crime wave. We can never give up on our children come we can never give up on our families, we can ever give up on our neighborhoods. We have seen such tough days in the past and we fought our way back. And it means the whole community has to be involved. Its never just about police. But former mayor woody giuliani ripping into mayor de blasio. Watch. Ive never seen it like this. There were more murders in the city but we have never had the total disrespect for the police. Even in those bad old days, nobody was going to punch a Police Officer. Aishah hasnies life with more. Just last week the mayor was touting their overall crime numbers thing they have never been as low as they have been under this mayor, but this morning, mayor de blasio was visibly shaken as he talked about that little boy. 1yearold devol gardner jr. Shot in the stomach and killed while playing in a park last night. Three others were injured and no one is in custody. Also a 12yearold boy between friday and sunday as he said, a 600 jump from the same period last year. The nypd recently disbanded its anticrime unit which took illegal guns off the street. He says they do not support that decision. Until the coronavirus it was overwhelmingly successful. We have to fight back and become once again what we were. We are also seeing more attacks from Police Caught on camera. An nypd officer was put in a headlock earlier this month over and ive legally parked vehicle. They are talking about finally charging the suspect, and an officer hit with an egg in the face on sunday as clashes broke out between propolice and black lives matter demonstrators. This comes at a time, melissa, one retirement at the nypd are through the roof and the city just canceled a recruit class of over 1100 recruits. Melissa . Thank you for that. If this is outnumbered and i Melissa Francis. Here today, harris faulkner, emily compagno, and the host of kennedy, kennedy herself and former governor mike huckabee. The governor of new york is in a free fall. The mayor has no plan. He says wear a mask, we would be better off wearing a bulletproof vest. He paints the street in front of trump tower and that is his response to whats going on right now. I say this not to be hyperbolic. I think he needs to resign. He has no plan in this city and its in a free fall. What are your thoughts . Is summed it up beautifully, it is out of control, there is no leadership. No adult is responsibly acting as a leader and im just wondering how many uhauls can hit the exits of new york in a short period of time. If i lived there, i would get out as quickly as i could. And now its a place that everybody would like to get out of. And why would you want to be a new york cop when youre mayor wont stand with you and he stands by as criminals put your officers in a headlock, throws things at them, spits at them, burns of their police cars. It is a city that has lost any semblance of order and mayor de blasio is specifically to blame for it. Melissa harris, i want to ask you, which black lives matter, specifically . When you look at whats happening in the city, the mayor has security. I live in a security building. Who is and danger right now . It is working class people. Its people who dont have the economics to live in a place where they can protect themselves. Absolutely. And i can say that those are not all africanamerican people. These are all diets that are in direct contact and in the pathway of the violence thats biking. I asked the question, why is murder going up. Why are we seeing extremes, i have talked about black on black crime and thats where we tend to see the concentration of the most Police Officers in urban areas across the area, where the black on black crime happens to be highest. We saw this in atlanta and it was heartbreaking. Im still talking about 8yearold to coria turner because the mayor of atlanta was the one who asked the question. We are doing this to each other. That little girls grandfather said, do black lives matter . And if so, what about her . I dont think we can ask that enough, but i also think that as you watch that video, and if you see the headlock of that Police Officer, you are seeing the collision of extremes. It is horrible. Can you not see that they are complicit in the violence of the moment attack and nature of this on. And i dont know if you caught third most powerful in the house, hakeem jeffries, a democrat and africanamerican man tweeting over the weekend, enough with the sign painting and all the stuff that we see in the streets in terms of the visual. At whats going on with moving us all forward to . A conversation that it is past time to have. Melissa absolutely. And mayor de blasio isnt the only one to blame. Theyll see weighing in as well. Kennedy, i will ask you a question on the other side. Do we think this has to do with the fact that there is record unemployment in the United States right now . Maybe it has the to do with the fact that people are scared to pay their rent. And, that they need to shoplift some bread or go hungry that night. Harris kennedy, she has the nerve to talk about unemployment when she chased 40,000 highpaying jobs out of her district. Can you believe that . No. I think what she did to amazon is unforgivable. She hates creativity, she hates capitalism but also this is the hypocrisy and they do whatever they can to score political points. And we are not sitting here talking about a spike in shoplifting incidents. We are not talking about a spate of bread loaves of missing mysteriously from shelves. We are talking about the indiscriminate killing and taking of human lives and that is the problem here. You are talking about a city where the mayor shouldnt be painting on streets. I dont have a problem with people expressing themselves but he should be figuring out in his own interview, he sat there and said, this is really bad. Can you believe it . Its like, you are the mayor. You are failing and it you are criticizing the outcome of your own leadership, Melissa Francis is absolutely right. Its time for him to resign. Other American Cities are going to follow suit and that is not acceptable. Melissa he will not resign and will not make it to the end of this term. When you look at the video of a Police Officer and a headlock, ive never lived in a time where i thought you could get away with putting her hands on a Police Officer. That is a very serious offense. And according to reports, he left. Hes not under arrest, the person who did that. The rule of law has broken down and that starts at the top. What are your thoughts . Thats exactly right. We have been watching this train wreck happen in slow motion. Remember we discussed on this show, and from local leaders, what i dont understand is why there is a failure to acknowledge. These statistics are absolutely staggering. That father who was shot and killed while crossing the street while holding his 6yearold daughters hand to come of that happened in her district, in the bronx. Why is it possible for the local leaders to acknowledge those statistics, and all of this puts Law Enforcement officers at risk. When you have this mixed messaging, when you dont take a zero tolerance stance, you have all these interrelated factors of defunding the police and painting the streets and not taking clear positions to advocate for police reform. You can acknowledge violence while still maintaining a hearty and clear stance that you are there for production including protection of Law Enforcement officers. Member this morning, dan patrick pointed out that since this year alone 29 Police Officers in texas have been shot and killed, 11 since the george floyd murder. Since 2015 over 500 have been shot and killed and over 700 have died by suicide. This is an epidemic across the country and as you pointed out, its not just new york that is running, it is every urban city and its incumbent upon local leaders to acknowledge this interrelated factor and how that is messaging up front so we prevent more deaths of the Law Enforcement in more deaths of community members. Melissa when you look at the acceleration of whats going on in new york city right now, this is not about politics. This is not about what party you are in. Its not about the color of your skin or about money. Its about the fact that this city is in real danger. I will give you the final word. I wouldnt say its about some of those things. The big revelation that we have had as a nation, has been where communities of color have suffered the most from that an end also just revealing and it didnt create it, it revealed it. Now the same people are put in the cross hairs of the very angry in the streets and thats not everybody, but its enough of them that we are seeing those videos of police in harms way, and that one on one collision. Also we are seeing calls for things, people dont understand what they are calling for when they say, defund the police. And yet the protesters still stand, how long will they be out there . And was not even really the issue as much as other things . I think race and politics play a role but i also think that just the resources of things in our community is an issue, too. That was the democratic governor of new york. He wanted to in his words display some earlier on in all of this. So we will see where it goes. I hold out hope that love always wins in the end and i say enough is enough and choose a better route together as americans. Melissa its not about a fact that hes a democrat or the fact that the city is a converging tax dollars on those sorts of things, thats not why i am personally calling for his resignation. Its because the city is in a free fall. The White House Press briefing set to kick off in less than an hour and we expect to hear about President Trump commuting roger stones prison sentence. The president says his former associate was the victim of any legal witch hunt. Democrats are furious. Ed staggering corruption but i think its important for people also to know that its a threat to our national security. 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Harris fox news alert, we are awaiting a White House Press briefing less than an hour from now, and we expect new reaction to President Trump commuting his former associate, roger stones sentence. 40 months in prison. That happened friday night. Former special counsel Robert Muellers going after the move in a Washington Post oped. That happened over the weekend, saying roger stones prosecution and the rush of probe are justified. The white house already hitting back just today. Watch. Even in the body of the oped, neely says again that there was no collusion from the trump administration. So what did Robert Mueller have to do to justify his investigation, waste of taxpayer dollars and americas time . Had to come up with process crimes, which is exactly what was done in the case of roger stone. Harris now Senate Judiciary chair Lindsey Graham is announcing he will call Robert Mueller to testify. He tweeted, mueller seems willing and also capable of defending the russia probe. Top democrats are going after the president s decision. Watch for that. Anyone who cares about the rule of law in this country is nauseated by the fact that the president has commuted the sentence of someone who willfully lied to congress, covered up for the president , intimidated witnesses, obstructed the investigation. It shouldnt matter whether youre a democrat or republican. This should be offensive to you if you care about the rule of law and you care about justice. Harris governor huckabee, you always expect, with these things, or politics to be a dividing line. Im curious from you, is this a great thing for the president to do given the timing . Commuting the sentence of roger stone . Or not . Mr. Huckabee i think it was a necessary thing. To put roger stone in prison during a covert outbreak, basically sentencing him to death, they denied his motion to simply delay. This isnt a pardon. I think people need to keep in mind that hes not off the hook. Harris no, its a commutation. Mr. Huckabee is a commutation. I remember giving commutations and people thought, you pardon the guy its very different. With the president did was recognize that there is a line between justice and revenge. Democrats want revenge. They hate roger stone because they hate donald trump. Anything they can do to just grind a heel and roger stones face and spit in the president s face, they are going to want to do. The question is, how is justice really served by taking a 67yearold man and putting him in a covid boilerplate . How does that make me, as an american citizen, better, safer, more financially secure . It doesnt. Quite frankly, it was a very gutsy thing for the president to do just before an election. Most people, like bill clinton and even both bushes waited until the very last day they were in office, when there were no political consequences for them to take these kind of actions. I have to hand it to President Trump. Its pretty gutsy to say, look, im not going to let this guy be stuck in prison. Im going to do it, and so be it with the political consequences. I would say this, harris. I think we need to buy a lot of brown paper bags of these democrats can breathe into them, because they are hyperventilating over something that theyve never been that upset about historically, when president s make commutations. Or, in the case of several president s, even pardon decisions. Harris kennedy, and reading some of your facial expressions on camera here and i want to get your thoughts. Kennedy [laughs] its funny, adam schiff talking about nausea, because he is such a gasbag. He has absolutely no credibility when it comes to this subject. He need not comment on any of this. What i will say is sometimes the president is really bad at picking people to surround himself with. I think roger stone loves politics, and he is very convincing, but might not be the best person to have around your campaign because he may be more troubled than good. These are not mutually exclusive, with the steele dossier and the way some of these fisa warrant applications were approved, you look at someone like roger stone and you realize the full heft and weight of the federal government was really put upon him, and for any citizen, whether they are an uncouth weirdo or not, that is not how the law should be administered in this country, and we have a lot to learn from this case. Again, its like protecting free speech. Sometimes you have to protect people that you have a personal allergy too. I think roger stone is a great example of that. Democrats need to calm down, because if it was their guy and power and they feel like someone was railroaded by the surveillance state, they would be cheering the exact same thing. Therefore, it is completely neutralized and they dont have a say. Harris emily, before we go to break, i just want to get your topline thoughts on the legalities of this. Did he break the law or not, roger stone . Emily well, the white house certainly argues it was a process crying. I have to echo kennedy and the governors comments here. Kennedy is right, being weird is not illegal. I have to point out that, for example, earlier on this network this morning, we had a democrat who said it was a humanitarian issue to release inmates over the age of 60 given the covid crisis. This is a 67yearold man headed to a federal facility, but in the last two weeks, 20 inmates tested positive for covid. Prior to that they were zero. Why is this any different from the 21 states that have released inmates at the state level harris where any of them in for process crimes . When you look at your research . I will lean on you. Were any of them in the situation where they were nonviolent crimes where they also should be let go . Emily absolutely, and taking it a step further, there were plenty who have been caught up in this no bail release for covid that were actually violent. That goes back to my continuing point of preclassified crimes. There are things that are classified as nonviolent when they absolutely are, including preventable deaths that happened in oakland when a person it was classified as a nonviolent crime, making terroristic threats, but he came out and murdered someone. Thats all in a larger conversation. Commuting someone sentence and not having the pardon 67 is not a big deal. Harris im just wondering if there were other people who might have been in similar situations to roger stone in terms of their age and their potential exposure, and less of violent crime. Im just curious to know if there are two lanes of justice were only one. Or just one, i should say. Emily there are many who have appealed to be released under covid and also under the first step act. There are many who are waiting for that. You are absolutely right, theres a long line. I would say the only argument you can make about this is the fact that there are many deserving of release, including all those inmates who presently have covid. Its a larger discussion of the violent and nonviolent crimes, as well. Certainly the release into the public. Harris all right. I still have kennedys description of roger stone in my head. [laughs] her words were very funny. You can watch roger stones First Television interview since President Trump commuted his sentence tonight. At 9 00 p. M. Eastern, on hannity. He will be with shawn. Coming up, a growing showdown over the trump administrations push to reopen schools. Democrats say that could threaten childrens health, but education secretary betsy devos warning that federal funding is at risk if schools dont reopen. Watch. Other countries around the world have reopened their schools, and theyve done so successfully. That has got to be the posture here. Woman my reputation was trashed online. I felt completely helpless. My entire career and business were in jeopardy. I called reputation defender. Vo take control of your online reputation. Get your free reputation report card at reputationdefender. Com. Find out your online reputation today and let the experts help you repair it. Woman they were able to restore my good name. Vo visit reputationdefender. Com or call 18778668555. Well the names have all changed since you hung around but those dreams have remained and theyve turned around whod have thought theyd lead ya back here where we need ya welcome back, america. It sure is good to see you. American investment in education is a promise to students and their families, if schools arent going to reopen and not fulfill that promise, they shouldnt get the funds. Well, you cant do that. I know you support vouchers, and that is a reasonable argument, but you cant do that unilaterally. You have to do that through congress. Well, were looking at at all the options. Melissa education secretary betsy devos pushing hard for schools to reopen this fall, but also saying the policy is not onesizefitsall. And that schools in areas where the coronavirus is out of control will be dealt with differently. But House Speaker nancy pelosi calling the administrations push to reopen schools appalling. We heard from the secretary was malfeasanc malfeasance, and dereliction of duty. And the president and his administration are messing with the health of our children. Going back to school presents the biggest risk for the spread of the coronavirus. Melissa and top Johns Hopkins university doctor, tom ingalls b, telling fox issuing an ultimatum for schools opening is the wrong approach. I want to compete for us, kennedy, because its interesting. She is tying the idea of money to schools, and i have one child in Public School in new york and one child in private school. The private school has a very defined plan to go back to school in the fall. They have masks, they are ready, they are communicating to parents what they are going to do, and theyre going to open. Because they are competing for dollars, and they know people will not pay the tuition for the fall if there isnt school. On the other hand, my child in Public School, hes not going back fulltime in the fall. They are shrugging their shoulders. De blasio, once again, and carranza, saying, well, we want to be safe, we are trying to make a plan. Why can some schools make a plan, in one city, and some schools cant make a plan in the same city . It does seem to be about competition for dollars, or if youre just going to get paid no matter what. What are your thoughts . Kennedy you are absolutely right, and you are seeing the benefit of school choice. Thats what parents should have. In los angeles, the Teachers Union here, you tla, listen to this. Hold onto your halter top, you wont believe the demand for allowing their membership to go back to work in the fall. You know what they want . Yes, they want masks for kids, they want social distancing, but they also want to shut down any pending Charter Schools. They dont want new Charter Schools to share existing space, which would create more classrooms and more room for social distancing. They want a medicare for alltype insurance program, and they are demanding all of this and holding the nations Second Largest School District hostage unless their demands are met. It is so irrational and socialistic, you cannot grasp the power and the depth of the evil of utla. Thats what they are doing. They are screwing with people. Yes, its a political move. As long as you keep kids out of school, you keep parents from working. As long as parents arent working, they economy continues to falter. It is that her right now . The president , who only benefits in the november election if there is an economic rebound. What they are doing is absolutely discussing. Its happening natalie on both coasts, but in between. On this issue, betsy devos is right. It is not onesizefitsall. Shame on utla. Melissa governor, how would you make this decision in your state if you were in charge right now . Mr. Huckabee first of all, i recognize that there are School People and there are kid people. School people care about the perpetuatinperpetuation of schoe institutions, the salaries of the teachers. Keeping everybody hired. Kid people are concerned about whats best for the kids, for the students. We need more people in leadership, the political world, who care about kids more than they do schools. The secretary is 100 right. If youre not going to open schools, you dont get the money. Who should get that money can make the parents. If they are going to homeschool, if they have to find alternative ways to educate their kids and take care of the child care and deal with School Lunches and things that these kids are not going to have, they should get the money. After all, it ought to be about the kids, not about the institutions and the politicians who make a living getting all of the money from the Teachers Unions. It really shouldnt be that complicated. Melissa emily . Emily right, it shouldnt be that complicated, but as governor notes, too, as a federal attorney i saw firsthand all day the bloated weight of the dinosaur bureaucratic government. And nothing is slower than the weight of it. That is why it is so surprising to me when everyone keeps looking to the federal government as having all the answers. At every opportunity, as well, the government can seize that opportunity as an example of clearcut leadership. But here i see that the local and state governments, as well, are totally failing here. No one is stepping up with that plan. I think, melissa, your example in the beginning was a really perfect illustration of, what motivates, and b, what happens when you articulate a plan. There are so many people, government employees, so many that work hard and of course are dedicated to children and everything, but there are also many who have thrown up their hands and are waiting for a type of guidance that they are not getting. The unfortunate part is that we are all the losers. As they are having this topdown fight about it, it is the kids and the families and the vulnerable communities and those parents who are trying to go back to work that will be the ultimate sufferers here. Melissa harris, you know, the response to me would be, of course the private school has a plan. It has money. Because its getting paid. The truth is, all the parents are holding back the tuition. They arent getting the money. So they are spending the money on masks, they are putting security in place, because they are not going to get that tuition. If people dont think theres going to be school, and send their kids back, i mean, it really shows you that if there is competition you are forced to think faster and to act. They will do it in the safe way, they are taking everybodys temperatures, they have consulted. What are your thoughts . Harris i, too, have one in private and one in public. The differences i see are also about where those schools are located. Im looking at reports today of detroit, there schools are opening it. They need a Summer Program to try and catch up. Many were and economic situations where they didnt have tablets across the board, so they couldnt even do distance learning. Some of the kids over the age of 15 going into high school years, they were having a problem not just in detroit but across the country, economically stressed urban areas, of having the kids even stay in school digitally. They can get there, but those kids werent checking the box that said they joined that digital classroom. I go back to something the governor said that really resonated. There are School People and then there are kid people. If you are a kid person and you know that there are kids out who need the meals from schools every day, new york has set up some centers in the beginning, melissa, you know, you live in the city. The lines are so long with those parents just trying to get those food programs because the kids were out. If you are also a kid person, wouldnt you have open those up before you open the rest of the economies of experience could get back to work . I just have a ton of questions. Im a kid person. Melissa harris, those are all brilliant points. Thank you. 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But several sponsors have called for it, and fedex has threatened to pull its name off the stadium where the team plays. No word yet on a new name, but a statement from the team has said this. Dan snyder and coach ron rivera are working closely to develop a new name in design approach that will enhance the standing of our proud traditionrich franchise and inspire our sponsors, fans, and communities for the next 100 years. Governor huckabee, what is your reaction to this . Mr. Huckabee i dont care what they call the redskins, as long as they just lose to the dallas cowboys. Thats the main thing i care about. [laughter] harris oh, my goodness. Mr. Huckabee the whole point of this, it has just become absurd. Everybodys trying to be politically correct and not offend anybody. Its a proud tradition. I think it was really a tribute to the native americans. For Dan Schneider seven years ago to say will never change itd how to sell out and fold because of the pressure, its disappointing. If they really need a name, heres a suggestion. Just call them the d. C. Deep staters. That would be a great name and very appropriate. [laughter] harris listen to you i know that the word redskins resonates so differently within the native American Community. They may not see it as a celebration. But this has been a topic and a talker for so many years, emily. Emily thats exactly right. Thats how, to me, all that illustrates is the power of corporate dollars. The real reason washington is changing their name, which is because a fedex pressure, its the same reason the nba will not sanction having freehong kong on their jerseys even though the players can have icantbreathe. I have to point out there is a pattern of this that isnt the first time. The astros used to be called the houston colt 45s, the wizards used to be called the washington bullets, and theres been a lot of name changes that weve got a new stew with fans. Remember, the oakland invaders, the st. Louis rams. There is a flexibility that fans and brazenly have a history of that. I think point here is that its money that ultimately talks. Harris to the governors point, too just because my whole familys cowboys fans. I dont want to pass judgment, because i dont know. It is simply a question. With the logo and the name change, will the washington whoever it they whoevertheyhour management do something for the native American Community . Do they consult them and ask if they would prefer that to to a e change . Melissa i think with the management will do is make a bunch more money. When you change the name of a team, everybody has to buy all new jerseys. They can complain as much as they want, but you go ahead, and if its your team, youve got to buy a new jersey and a new this and i knew that. Every time you change the team color or the name, its money money money for the team owners. Dont forget that. Harris wow. No doubt. 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Melissa facebook is reportedly considering a ban on all political advertisements in the days leading up to the november election. The social media giant has taken a lot of heat, including from its own employees, over its policy of not factchecking political ads even if they contain false information. Ceo of Mark Zuckerberg has long insisted that facebook should not be the arbiter of truth. Some democrats say and add band could lead to Voter Suppression in the crucial days ahead of the election. The trump team isnt happy about it, either. Saying, this would be an egregious stifling of political speech. Kennedy, i love this story because facebook cant win for losing. No matter what they do, everyone is furious at them and they just cant seem to get this issue right no matter what. Kennedy no, its absolutely true. Truth and falsehood are very Different Things to different people when you are talking about something as subjective and emotional as president ial politics. A lot of times you are talking about character, you are talking about issues that really have to do with how you perceive them. If you perceive something as being negative, it doesnt mean your opponents portrayal of their position is false. They have to be very i understand that. I also think that sometimes before elections, just a couple days before, thats when a lot of people are getting information for the first time. If youre getting all your news from facebook, youve got problems. What facebook needs to do is a better job of policing annoying people on facebook, especially your friends from high school who cant edit themselves when it comes to politics because they think everyone should agree with them. They are the worst. Melissa governor huckabee, i think im one of the only people who has never been on facebook. I had a page for a moment that was managed in a book launch, but beyond that i dont think ive ever looked. I feel good about that. Do you think they made the right decision here . Mr. Huckabee i think you probably did. Several Million Dollars spent against me in attack ads, political advertisement is nasty business. If youre going to stop facebook, stop everybody. Dont do any tv advertising, radio, newspaper, billboard, brochures. End it all. Its always advocacy advertising. If you ask me, what did i think about the millions of dollars of attack ads that were attacking me . I hated all of them. But this is a free country with free speech. The way to overcome it is to come back with a different speech. Its not to ban everything. This is america, for heaven sakes. People say things we dont like, people even say things that arent true. The best way to counteract it is to point out the fallacy of those untrue statements and to fight back. The idea of banning something, the question, who gets to decide if its untrue . Who are these socalled factcheckers . The biggest fraud in america is the factchecking industry. Most of them are so biased they only check the facts that matter to them. Harris melissa i feel liky political ad ive seen is a lie. I always listen to them like, thats not true. There you go. The White House Press briefing is scheduled to start moments from now. We will bring you that just as soon as it gets underway. More outnumbered in just a moment. Tada did you know Liberty Mutual customizes your Car Insurance so you only pay for what you need . Given my unique lifestyle, thatd be perfect let me grab a pen and some paper. Know what . Im gonna switch now. Just need my desk. My chair. And my phone. Only pay for what you need. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Melissa so, apparently, emily, im not the only one who has not spent any time on facebook. Emily ive never had a facebook account ever and i think im better for it. To the governors point, i saw political at the other day, i thought it was a movie trailer. It was that dramatic. I was like, oh, this looks great it was a political ad. [laughs] melissa i know, i think the public is smarter than that. They understand what they are seeing. Thank you to everyone in our virtual couch. Well see you back here tomorrow. Heres harris. Harris and breaking news this hour, we await the White House Press briefing at mid new reaction to President Trumps decision to commute long time advisor, roger stones, prison sentence. As soon as that begins we will take you there. This is outnumbered overtime. Im harris faulkner. Meanwhile, democrats and some republicans are going after that move regarding roger stone, calling it corrupt and a mistake. However, the president is defending his decision. He says stone was treated horribly and targeted by a witch hunt. He was to begin a sentence tomorrow on charges including witness tamperi