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I have won most of the states and ted says i won here and there, but i have won more than he has. I won many more states than he has. He refuses to say that. I cant tell you how many media analysts i heard saying donald trump will run away with wisconsin. They forgot the voters of wisconsin, i believe tomorrow night, well have a terrific victory here in wisconsin. Cruz and trump are saying, cruz is saying hes taking my voters, trump says hes taking my voters. Theyre right, im taking both of their voters. Will wisconsin be a game change sner some think so. The cruz crowd things a delegate win could be a game changer. But, ahead of the wisconsin results, some are playing the expectations game. If he wins wisconsin, the contest is over. If not the competition goes on and the math is more difficult. I think ted cruz will win today and it will be the turning point in this election. We have more on the wisconsin primary. 42 delegates, how big is it. First off you didnt have to get dressed up for me. Its a big deal. I dont think what karl rove said is completely right on. I think if cruz wins is changing the dynamic a little bit. We talked about it is all about the math and the delegates. If cruz wins by a small margin, youre talking about not a lot of difference in delegates. Let me throw these numbers at you quickly. April 26th, connecticut, delaware, maryland, pennsylvania, rhode island, 172. Can you say this even or eight day period is the election, or the nomination is in that period . That period will be huge, the other one to look at is california. June 7th, the whole basket of delegates. That could be desightive. This election will not be solve d until california. Even if he hits a streak, he will not sale it. It all depends on how things come along. Momentum. There will be game change and momentum play going forward. Yeah, i think tonight is a big piece. There is a lot of expectations on all sides. For kasich to get out, and in terms of the money to come in, there a lot of pressure on trump. Cruz talked a big game. They have been very aggressive going against delegates, having a smart strategy going forward. It will be very difficult going forward. I think it is very important. Im thinking to your point about california, i cant remember when the republican primaries in california mattered. I dont think that has happened in my lifetime. Pretty much the republicans kind of they would never say they were writing off california, but they never spent a lot of money there. If youre living there and youre a republican, this could be your year to have fun and attention. I think of wisconsin as the 20 mile mark in a marathon. The next six miles are very hard. Wisconsin is important in that it is a very political state. Not that the 42 delegates are passive, but the birth of the Republican Party could be traced to wisconsin. The democrats could be traced to wisconsin. If you know anything about wisconsin, if you have spent time there, which i have, they are political and they are rigid. They dont flipflop much. And the question early in the polls, donald trump was leading, now theyre mixed, how do you think it plays . Wisconsin is the final hurdle i think. The drug nifing dog at the airport. Once you get past it, everything is smooth sailing. I dont care about wisconsin. I care about the general election. I dont want to see another dick morris fiasco. What is the point of a vote that makes it feel good now if it is really awful in november. That may mess with your strategy. Should i vote for this person or a spoiler. Im just thinking about the general. Ill let you guys talk about the primaries, ill worry about the general. So do you want to weigh in on the gop. To me that is interesting. Right now i think the estimates are, trump needs about two thirds of the remaining delegates. It is still only about 43 delegates. If he loses, it bumps up to like 70 . And this is critical because at this jumpture, were seeing the republican establishment concentrating its resources. The message coming out of the Trump Campaign today that so much tysuper pac money is behin cruz. He is low on funds at the moment. He is being sustained by these super backs. He says they dont love cruz, they just hate me. Lets just say that trump doesnt get to 1237. Going to the convention. All of the people that loved kruse. Where are they going to go. Will they back ted cruise or go somewhere else. . I think their ultimate hope is to get someone they like. They dont trump or cruise. Just to your point on the gop side, you have the antitrump people spending 2 million in antitrump adds. So you have the cruise people, the campaign, the Cruz Superpacs all spending money against trump in wisconsin. That goes to show can i weigh in on that . I think that ted cruz has surprised a lot of people. He might have grown on some people that thought they could never support him. Part of that is the impressiveness of the ground operation. They spent money pretty kiezly even though i know they probably need an infusion of cash now. I think he earned a lot of respect, and probably earned respect from people who didnt think they would ever sport him. Will they support him on a second ballot . I think they will. He has a great he just cannot stand if somebody attacks him if. Somebody attacks him, he punches back ten times harder. I think he is the man. He respected women. He hires women to the highest positions, and he trusts them. And he is the one that will take care of them. He is the only one. How did that go for him . I think any time you have your wife out there it softens you. I dont know why she has not been on the campaign trail all throughout. I think that worked out for them, but she has not appeared that much on the campaign trail. He could use a little more female support. And he may get support from ivanka as well. Yes, she has had her hands full, congratulations on the baby. They have a very close relationship. Melanie was there with him, answering questions and standing by him. You have to be out there, you have to be an effective surrogate at all times. It is two for the price of one. Can donald trump grow on women . Its possible. All men marry up, okay . Right . Were going to agree with that . And so i think that having her there. I read a feature story on her. She is very supportive. Reluctant to campaign, but i dont think necessarily people make decisions to vote for a individual and check that box based on their spouse. I think trump had a terrible week. Particularly with womens issues, the abortion issue. The reporter being grabbed, complaining about it, and a lot of people will say he is married to these gor jazz women. She is coming in like a plans. If donald trump is a vege tray, she is the ranch dressing. She reminds me of another woman married to a loud mouth, and that is my poor wife. There it is on tv, a campaign trail, maybe twitter or on women are your guard rails, when he comes home, she is probably saying why did you do that. She is the ranch that makes the horrible veges taste better. They tell me you have to go. I do. Catch my special report at 6 00 p. M. Starting at 8 50 p. M. Eastern. We will announce the winner of this election were the night is over. Up next here, bill oreilly predict of what his supporter wills do if he doesnt get the nomination. In new york state, we believe tomorrow starts today. All across the state, the economy is growing, with creative new business incentives, the lowest taxes in decades, and new infrastructure for a new generation attracting the talent and companies of tomorrow. Like in rochester, with worldclass botox. And in buffalo, where medicine meets the future. Let us help grow your companys tomorrow today at business. Ny. Gov my school could be bad. Ing fast. Could be a blast. Cant find a single thing to wear. Will they be looking at my hair . Wont be the same without you bro. When its go, the new Choice Privileges gets you there faster. And now, stay two times and you can earn a free night. Book now at choicehotels. Com welcome back to the five. Bill o reilly spoke about the working class man who will with mad if their candidate doesnt get the nomination. Trump will maintain a very strong level of support. If he doesnt get the nomination, the stay stay home factor will be substantial. And a lot of American Voters are disfied today. 62 believe their believing and values are under attack. It sounds like at this table, right . Does anyone care what you think. I dont know about that. I think you guys treat me pretty well. Do you think people will stay at home . Yeah, and that he was talking about it so pluntly. They say this is angry white men and theyre a major stack forin the 2016 election. You also see it with the sanders supporters. You can register on the day what way you want to vote. I know if you ask people questions like is this the country you you up in, white men say no, i feel like a stranger in my own country. This is a major question. I was impressed by bill oreilly because people generally dont want to auk about it. I think this is the party dividing among itself. You have the trump crew and the nontrump crew. If you get to the on vengs, and someone businessed trump or cruz does not get nominated, they will be angry. Instead of getting behind a front runner early, they will let it draw out, and the losers will be so bitter, theyre going to say were done and walk away. Were handing an election to Hillary Clinton because people are so tired of it. People say if trump is the nominee, i will not vote this time, you have to say i want trump, i want cruz, or caseic. But i will vote if its not my guy. You have to vote unless you want more Supreme Court justices being liberal, if youre not worried about senate or house seats but these people are angry. But are they angry enough to say well just hand it over to Hillary Clinton and forget it . Forget the white house . Bill oreilly talked about the angry white men. I talked at the book coming apart. The anger is not just at washington, but at a whole bunch of things. I think it is economic. And president obama has fuelled a lot of it he is not allowing the nation to be exceptional. I think there is a number of people that will not allow to be persuaded. Oreilly is saying they could stay home, and i think there is a number that could if it is trump versus clinton. You have a turnout problem on both sides. The other thing is, i know we spend a lot of time talking about the men that are angry. In the last two president ial elections, women have joet voted men by ten million or more. Its one thing to have angry white men, but were not making any more of those. There are new voters. And it is a significant number. Common on the campaign trail has to start thinking about that. So do you agree with oreilly, coming down along race and gender lines . Would we ever do a segment on angry black men . Sure, we do it regularly. But there are two kinds of anger that i think he might be referring to. One is to revolve against liber liber liberal facism. Everyone got sick and tired of having to watch their words, here is a guy that doesnt care. Another is the is disdain for circumstance. So you can blame poll suggestions, sometimes they dont have its not their fault, you can blame globalization, you can blame automation. These things you cannot change. But there is one thing you can change and that is your life. If youre going to pursue happiness, it is a real pursuit, you have to chase it. I moved five times in my career. I went from california to allentown, to dc, you dont want government to encourage you to stay put in a place that offers no opportunity. It will not get you out of where you are, it will just keep you there you have to ask yourself where is this anger coming from. Is it something that you can control or change . Is it something youre just going to have to adapt to. Youre watching all of these people move to text, aas, and w are they . Taxes, weather. Well have more on Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders. Stay with us. And then our car overheated. What are the chances . Can you send a tow truck please . Uh, the location . Youre not going to believe this but its um. Its in a tree. I wish i was joking, mate, but its literally stuck in a tree. car horn honking a chainsaw . No, no, all we really need is a tow truck. Day or night, geicos emergency Roadside Service is there for you. Hillary clinton is praising for the possibility of another defeat and her campaign seems rattled by Bernie Sanders. She says first were down almost every poll in wisconsin. Tomorrows primary will be a tough fight. Second, the Sanders Campaign raised over 43 million in march making that the third month in a row they have outraised us. If we want to see Hillary Clinton in the white house we have to step up. Bernie is taunting his rival. If there is a large turnout, we will win here. If there is a win here there is a bounce. I dont want to get Hillary Clinton more nervous than she already is. She is already under a lot of pressure. Dont tell her this. I think we win here, we win in new york state and were on our way to the white house. That is funny. I find him funny and charming. I thought the email stuff was dire, but i think that will signal theyre really worried about it. There could be a little of setting expectations so her people dont panic flp is so there is a little bit of an exercise in futility. But i think there is restlessness on the democratic side. I think the momentum that bernie is talking about is a good one. Also he does not improve as candidate. I think it is a problem for her, i know they will debate next week and she needs that debate. They have agreed to a debate now. April 14th, so to danas point, there is very little way in which sanders can close the gap, what is going on here . In the next debate that were talking about, he should step it up. He only has to ask one question, would you be okay if every member of your cabinet had their own private server. That one question would trip her up unless he watches the five and is now formulating an answer. If he asked that question, it would screw her up. It is true, i like listening to Bernie Sanders. I always feel like im in line at the deli and waiting for him to order the potato salad. He will be doing that soon. The clinton people say in fact maybe theyre just trying to raise money. As to whether or not this is really an alarm this is not a panic attack email. This is Just Campaign 101. Of course she will say we need help, support, they all say that. She should be trying to raise more money. It is embarassirassing that he raising so much. She says i need your support, we need momentum, and she has to underpromise and hopefully overdeliver despite the predictions in wisconsin. Its part of the game, the messaging, its smart, it is what she has to do. Two weeks to new york, is there any way that he can push ahead now and catch up . No, it is delegate wise it is over. She is ahead 270. And it is all about expectations. But also this. New york is important. She has a big league the week after new york. And i pointed out equally as big on the democratic side. She will lock it down there for sure, she has to keep her people focused and in the game to make sure they bring her across that finish line. But she has to keep them hungry for the win. Not like hey, we got this. It will just lay back and get weird. It is not the 90 yard dash. She has it, she just need its by a wide margin. Ahead, cities are finding a new way to fight crime. They will pay criminals not to commit the crimes. Will that work . Gregory has a lot to say about it, next. Its the Little Things in life that make me smile. Spending the day with my niece. I dont use super poligrip for hold, because my dentures fit well. Before those little pieces would get in between my dentures and my gum and it was uncomfortable. Even well fitting dentures let in food particles. Just a few dabs of super poligrip free is clinically proven to seal out more food particles so youre more comfortable and confident while you eat. So its not about keeping my dentures in, its about keeping the food particles out. Try super poligrip free. They will pay them not to kill you. Cities are trying to adopt a program where criminals are paid not to commit crime. One thug earns a grand a month to stay out of trouble. City leaders say it has cut their homicide rate. Im thinking there must be a better way to spend your tax dollars, make maybe more cops, better wages for cops, and more prisons. How much do you want to bet that people behind paying thugs thinks mass incarceration is so evil. Incarceration helped dramatically reduce Violent Crime since the 1990s. When something works, you think you dont need it any more. Our generation didnt get the measles. Hooray, no more measles. I would pay someone to never hear this again 1877kars 4 kids. That is kind of cute. I know. Why not pay all of us not to do stuff that bugs you, its so much easier than policing especially when youre footing the bill. Okay, prosecutors. A horrible idea. Horrible horrible idea. You didnt even no what i was going to ask you. I was going to ask you cars for kids. It is crazy, it is criminal welfare. Thats it. Something puts them in jail, three strikes, stop and frisk, these things work. Incarceration has an effect. You know, your lesson it is just more like protection racket, you pay criminals not to hurt you. All of the parents that raise children to be law abiding citizens, they dont get any money . Talk about angry white people. It pays to be bad. The other thing is that the broken window theory, well talk about juans book in the next block, but that works. It wasnt just about murder, that was about from the beginning to the end how to prevent crime from start to issue. Theyre not just starting back. I didnt mean it in a racial way. It was a callback to an earlier segment. I personally find this crazy, right . Not only do i find it crazy, theyre trying it where i live, in washington dc. The police chief is saying there is no evidence this works. Why is that . We have seen, and i think Many American cities have seen a rise in murders in the last year or so. We have seen this. So i question is why are they not putting money into schools, job training, and things we know work. I think i agree with you. Were rewarding bad behavior. I like this with a caveat. You want to pay them a thousand dollars a month or something. I say give it to them, but they have sign their appeals rights away. So if you get convicted of a homicide or a rape, thats it, youre done, whatever the conviction is, you dont have to go through the appeals process why do they get to commit crimes. Why do they get to be a plague. Youre selling your appeal right for the 1,000 a month. Convict them, put them away, dont give them anything but a bologna sandwich. Salt lake city pays the rent for home less people that will not go into this shelter, but when theyre in a home, they can have a productive life. You can be on death row an average of 18 years before they administer justice. Sign that away if you want this 1,000 a month, sign it away. Up ahead, juans new book. We the people was released today. Go buy a copy and tell us about it when the five returns. And then you totaled him. You two had been through everything together. Two boyfriends, three jobs. Youre like nothing can replace brad. Then Liberty Mutual calls, and you break into your happy dance. If you sign up for better car replacement™, well pay for a car thats a model year newer with 15,000 fewer miles than your old one. See Car Insurance in a whole new light. Liberty mutual insurance. Wrely on the Us Postal Service . Because when they ship with us, their business becomes our business. Thats why we make more ecommerce deliveries to homes than anyone else in the country. Here, there, everywhere. United states Postal Service priority you we need to be ready for my names Scott Strenfel and r im a meteorologist at pg e. 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Even the automation you were talking about, right . So what are the roots of this change. You can think about other periods like industrialization, things change, but things are changing now and i think were slow to acknowledge how much things are changing. Where does all of this immigration come from . Who changed the rules . You look at the 65 immigration act, president kennedy and ted kennedy and what they did. Crime is down, but were so much more aggressive about surveillance and all of that. You come to a guy like bill braton. When it comes to president reagan and the ideas, you look at the courts and the current argument over who to replace Justice Scalia with. President reagan was trying to respond to the people who live in a living, changing constitution. He said we have to stick to the values. Do you have a question . Im always interested in how a book is put together. I looked at your cover, and it was interesting why you chose those four people. I have someone else you could have added there. Yes, it is reagan, billy g m graham, you added is that you . Yes. You have been writing for many years, enhow does someone write when they have another job . He didnt sit at the bar drinking. You know, the one thing i admit because im living here pretty much now, i had two computers. One with a time line, and the other one im working on, and of course i have but it is my space where i come and focus, and focus is the hardest thing. Focus, and do you thereon much listen music . No. It has to be just instrumental, no lyrics. Congratulations on the timing, youre smack dad in the middle of a race on both sides. People can read the book, will it help them decide who to vote for . I think it will. I dont know if it would change your perception, there is ronald reagan, eleanor roosevelt, but you have a sense of where we are as americans. And understand how people have created change in the past. It is an honor and a tribute to the Founding Fathers. Our country endures, and change happens and getting involved and creating, shaping that change. I think voting, political involvement, deciding what you want the country to be. Give whan is going nonthis revolutionary process that we have seen, it takes a long time to read a book flp is a period after where we think i might have included this, or that, did you do that . We have so many discussions here about terrorism and the like. I think if i had another shot, i would look at how the cia, the National Security agency and all of those things have come to be so large. So while the o. S. S. , world war ii, thats the story i would tell. Maybe i would talk about american media. I didnt do it. Maybe in the next book. But for now, this one. Get your copy. You will want to pass it on as well. Time for one more thing. Juan is first. A tremendous moment of drama last night in the ncaa championship. Look at this. Now, its page tied the game at 74, shot by marcus page. Then even more drama from villa novas chris jenkins. Three seconds at mid court. Gives it to jenkins for the championship. Oh, baby, that is basketball. Thats wonderful. More to the story. Jenkins story, grew up in maryland, family adopted him. The family of nate britt who plays for university of north carolina. Villa nova coach jay wright went to recruit britt. Who could have thunk that one up. Want to do a special tribute to a 12yearold German Shepherd after she was honored and lost her leg while serving in afghanistan. Luka completed more than 400 missions with the u. S. Marine corps and was presented with the medal in london. Its the highest award an animal can achieve for service. As i mentioned, she lost her leg, one of the soldiers there applied a tourniquet and now shes back with her original handler, enjoying an incredible life. Loyal, intelligent, amazing dog. Dogs are people, too. Last august hbo released a documentary called back on board detailing the life of olympic diver greg louganis. 43,000 supporters got their wish. Image of lug gan nis, 56 years old, fourtime Gold Medalist will be on the box. Hurd her edward moses and swimmer Janet Edwards will appear. About time. Why does it always have to be athletes . I could be on the box life size on the cover. Youre on the cover of the book now. Gregs nutrition tips. If youre going to go out to eat, never bite off more than you can chew. Here is jeremy piven at a local restaurant trying to eat an actual cat. As you know luckily the cat was asleep or would have taken a swipe at mr. Piven who clearly is famished, clearly gained weight since the failure of the entourage movie. How did the story end . They got married and opened a bed and breakfast in vermont. Perfect. Making jam. What we all want to do. I think he was trying to tickle him to wake him up. Everyone wants to know why the tie. You want to know . Actually i had an orange tie on. I came down, and juan was wearing it so i had to change it. Im not going to tell you. Go to facebook and twitter. Ive posted why the tie. Im curious. Everyone has a theory. Youre not going to tell snus. No. You have to check it out. Thats it for us. Special report is up next. Stay tuned for all the election coveragell night. We are coming to you tonight from americas election headquarters in new york. For fox News Coverage of the wisconsin president ial primary. This is a fox news alert. Im bret baier. Were a little under three hours away from the polls closing in the badger state. In a switch, the frontrunners are both underdogs tonight. Donald trump and Hillary Clinton will maintain delegate advantages, either way tonight turns out. Wisconsin is an opportunity for ted cruz and Bernie Sanders to cut into their leads. With fox team coverage, john roberts in milwaukee as ted cruz tries to make a stuff stretch for donald trump. 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