Laura Ingraham shines a spotlight on everyday Americans and examines how their lives are affected by politics at the federal, state and local level. Again, he worked for bob dole, he worked for ronald reagan, he worked for many people, and this is the way it ends up. It was not the original mission, believe me. It was something very much different. So it had nothing to do with Russian Collusion. We continue the witch hunt. Significant the president did not say anything about the cohen case, leaving the attorney Rudy Giuliani to put out the statement, there is no allegations of any wrongdoing against the president and the governments charges against mr. Cohen. It is clear that as a prosecutor noted, mr. Cohens actions reflect a pattern of lies and dishonesty over significant period of time. But cohens plea deal alleges he broke the law to influence a 2016 election on behalf of an unnamed candidate who clearly is the president. Cohen will get somewhere between 43 and 63 months in prison after pleading guilty to the Campaign Finance charges i mentioned, plus bank fraud, and tax evasion. The Campaign Charges involve payments to two woman who alleged affairs with the president that he vehemently denied. Stormy daniels and karen mcdougal. In cohens plea deal seems to directly contradict something that giuliani told fox back in may. Having something to do with paying some Stormy Daniels woman, 130,000, which is going to turn out to be perfectly legal. That money was not Campaign Money. Sorry, im giving you a fact now that you dont know. Its not Campaign Money no Campaign Finance violation. It was funneled through a law firm . Funneled through a law firm and the president repaid it. That questions whether there is any legal jeopardy, michael avenatti, always very aggressive, he claims this will get a stay listed a civil case, separate from us, meaning there will be a new fight over whether
the president has to give a deposition. Michael avenatti tweeting to giuliani, buckle up, buttercup, as if this fight is just beginning. Jason thank you very much. Lets bring in the legal panel to break down this development. Harmeet dhillon is a republican and a lawyer, Vinoo Varghese is a criminal defense attorney, and tom dupree, a deputy assisted attorney general in the george w. Bush administration. Thank you for being here. I want to break down todays developments. I want to do it one at a time. Well go Around The Horn on Paul Manafort. Harmeet, the first stab at this. What is your take on the developments today . The developments today, i think theyre very unfortunate for mr. Manafort because he is close to the president at one point in time for a brief period of time. He got caught in the cross hairs of the prosecution of the mueller investigation. As we can see from the indictment as well as the charges and the jury verdict today, we dont see anything
about the president , about Russian Collusion or anything over that irregularities in his taxes and statements to banks. Now those are series issues and unfortunately, mr. Manafort will probably spend a good decade plus, to the rest of his life in prison, depending on what happens next. Its got zero to do with the president and its frankly underscoring that if it werent for being close to the president , he probably wouldnt have been prosecuted. Part of the narrative of the unfair witch hunt. Jason joining me in the studio in new york, she writes, nothing to do with donald trump . The proximity of the president is what is driving this, right . The first thing that she noted, ostriches and pythons across the country will sleep well tonight knowing that Paul Manafort will remain behind bars. Understand this is a big victory for team mueller in the court of public opinion, because they won this case in the court. There have been a number of
guilty pleas here. Jason a case that has nothing to do with the original manafort directive. This is Trumps Campaign chairman. It was his campaign chairman. Jason anyone that has ever worked for you Paul Manafort here has been found guilty. Look jason of what . Something he did a long time ago . The team took a gamble, the case in alexandria, virginia, hoping for a much more conservative jury. Jason you dont believe that he would have been prosecuted except for his proximity to donald trump . They looked at him. That was part of it. I agree, his proximity to donald trump brought the case. It doesnt mean thats the only thing. Jason if someone has skirted the tax laws, i want them to be convicted. But to have the National Spotlight on them just because hes worked for 100 days for donald trump seems a bit over the top. Let me get toms take on this. Tom, what do you think is happening here with Paul Manafort . A few things, i do think he was the wrong guy in the wrong place at the wrong time. Look, the fact that bob mueller
case, you are going to be convicted here, you have been convicted, and im going to put the squeeze on you, you better cough something up on donald trump or im going to actually is that what is going on . Muellers team has been putting the squeeze on manafort for many, many months now, and he hasnt caved. I suppose the pressure will continue although at this point, manafort has lost a lot of the leverage that he had at the outset, given that he stands criminally convicted for a that says, its possible that at some point theyll reach a deal. Manafort has another trial coming up in a few months, there might be an opportunity to do wheeling and dealing. I tend to think of manafort has a bigger value to get to mueller and he was willing to turned over to mueller, you think mueller would have it by now. Jason lets talk about Michael Cohen. Thats a different scenario. Vinoo, how do you read that situation . The first thing, i think this is a big political victory for the republicans today, with announcing that Michael Cohen is trumps personal attorney paid hush money to a porn star and playboy model. Theres no debate that President Trump has a better taste in women than bill clinton. Hes an attorney, this is a guy who has committed a crime, multiple, tax evasion, violation of Campaign Finance laws. He is going to be automatically disbarred. The question is, how much time will he face behind bars . The deal says 43 to 63 months but that judge can give much more than that. That is the reality of the case. So for him, it leaves open the possibility of cooperating. There are still an opportunity to cooperate. I wouldnt be surprised at all of the december date is pushed back. Jason harmeet, how do you read this situation . And i think its pretty interesting who Michael Cohen picked as his attorney, because lanny davis is obviously no friend of donald trump but very close in proximity to hillary clinton. A couple things to keep in mind about Michael Cohen. He is a guy who tapes his clients that hes a guy, who, a few months ago, looking at
potentially 60 years in prison for these potential charges, at that point he was saying that the president had nothing to do with any of this stuff and there is no Campaign Finance issues. Fastforward to today, when he were facing 60 years in prison and the alternative is five years in prison and you can get that five year deal if you say that a couple of things that arent crimes are crimes, and pin them on the president. So i think that the overwhelming power of prosecutors here in those situations in every situation where the federal prosecution has led to this result. Lanny davis has really sold his client out because i think it is a real stretch im a lawyer does election law, Campaign Finance, thats a real stretch to say that someone says that paying off hush money to a blackmailer is necessarily trying to affect the outcome of an election. I suspect that throughout his career, donald trump has been approached by women like this who have shaken him down and this is a standard way that
people are paid off and i dont see that Campaign Finance violation here at all, and so it is really unfortunate that he was forced into the situation and has done this. But, you know, again, a, nothing to do with collusion or russia. And, b, no crime here for the president. Jason Jonathan Turley, noted attorney come on fox news earlier criminals listen to him and tom, i would like to get your reaction to that. Unless its unidentified candidate is bernie sanders. Its going to be bad news. You are not paying attention. If the prosecutors accept what is in this indictment, then the president just became an unindicted coconspirator. That is a simple matter of it. Jason tom, youve got deep experience in the department of justice. Is Jonathan Turley right . Not quite. The way i look at it, for one thing, the fact that cohen pleaded to a particular charge doesnt mean that other people are automatically deemed guilty. That is why we have trials, thats why we have evidence and thats why we have juries make
these determinations. I will also say that one of the most complex and byzantine areas in the entire sphere of federal law is the election code. And lawyers will argue to the nth day about whether something constitutes an Election Violation or it doesnt. To me what this will come down to is whether cohen has something other than his own word this is what happened, that these payments were made for the purpose of influencing a campaign, that they were done with the direction of presumably donald trump. If cohen has trump on tape, if cohen has evidence to support his allegations, then it can pose greater jeopardy for the president but right now, all we know is its just cohens word against presumably the president s word. Jason but there are tapes. Is the trump team able to hear and listen to all of these tapes or are in the possession of the Special Prosecutor . Or is that something that they may have only heard snippets of . My guess is the president has not heard everything that is in the possession of the prosecutors. Lord knows what sorts of things cohen was taping. There have been some tapes that address some of the Subject Matter of todays indictment, we
dont know if those are all of them and the tapes that we have heard have been somewhat ambiguous to say the least. Jason but vinoo, i have a hard time believing that this is first of all, i have not heard the word russia yet and collusion. You havent seen anything there regarding Russian Collusion, have you . Thats not what this is about. Jason i know but this is with a Special Prosecutor is spending all of his time, about a guy who is dealing with Medallions On Taxis thats the Tax Evasion Part of it. You have here, Donald Trumps personal lawyer, the man who said he would take a bullet for donald trump, who has now said in open court that at the direction of the candidate, he funneled this money to influence the election. Right . The question of russia collusion, thats a separate question. The fact is jason whats the Prime Question of what the prosecutor is supposed to be going for . He can investigate different things. All of us came from us and the fact that you have Trumps National security advisor, his former campaign
jason there is a lot of evidence out there that he was manipulated along the way. All guilty. Jason harmeet, last word. How do you read the situation Going Forward . What happens next . Obviously, the left in this divided country is going to go crazy like vinoo just did, Guilt By Association here. But this is a tragic tale of a lawyer gone awry in many ways and its important for him personally. But the president is very focused on his agenda, popular, wouldnt be surprised if this doesnt affect his popularity one bit because people are beginning to see the results in this country and yet after all of this money, all of this effort, drama, all these indictments, all hes got is zero to do with russia collusion, the only person who committed Campaign Finance violations with respect to russia, foreign countries, is hillary clinton, and she never got indicted. I think this really underscores the president s position that this is a witch hunt and it has no legitimacy and needs to end. Jason thank you. Has there been any other similar crimes similar to this anywhere he has been . In the Sanctuary Cities . Where has he been, what has he done . Jason he was charged with firstdegree murder. Does that lead you to believe that he was stalking her as opposed to a chance happening, she was running, driving back, decided, this would be a good target . I think he was probably stalking her. The police did a marvelous job. They didnt let out any information until they had the details pretty well collected and lined up for the information that they give out this afternoon. They did a marvelous job with this. Another thing, we get so many people complaining about cameras, the Civil Liberties are violated when they appear on camera, the police did such a great job in contacting people as they went through this, they found somebody who had a camera who saw the chevy malibu, who actually saw the runner. What a great job they did, and hats off to the Police Department. Jason smaller Law Enforcement organization, not like the Los Angeles Police department with untold number of
assets at their disposal, for a Smaller Department like that to do this kind of police work. Michael, it does beg the question, joining me in studio, this person should have never been in the country in the first place, right . Its an allegation, but he should have never been here, right . Thank you for having me, jason. A horrible, senseless act of violence, my heart goes after the family. There should be full consequences to this man for committing this murder for the rest of his life. The truth is, the political arena of immigration is not going to be satiated through legislation. You cant legislate your way out of a murder. Its many ways jason you can put up a wall. You can enforce you can start expelling people that are here illegally. I understand but when you look at the facts, we have u. S. Marines that marry foreign nationals and the vetting here is critical. Even if you vet, you have more
u. S. Citizens grieving, more heinous crimes, undocumented or legally permitted jason he would have never been able to even have a chance to commit a crime if he wasnt here in the first place. You are saying we need to shut our doors and not have them here. I dont know how you can stop a murderer, despite all of the jason if hes here illegally, that says to me, at least on the first blush, that he should have never been here. What about the Million People we bring on legally and lawfully . I have a higher moral obligation, i think this country does, to those people then it does i agree. I agree with the other two speakers, former director of the fbi and the officer, because in all truth, when it comes down to it, the Beautiful Police work that is being done, the system here, should standard we should have redundancies between state, local, and federal crimes, so that the vetting doesnt stop. What about the people who radicalize, who are citizens, when they travel internationally and come back to the u. S. . If a local cop gets them, and reports It Redundantly to the intelligence services, yes,
jason, we should be able to stop this, but we cannot blame immigrants as a scapegoat. Jason im blaming this one. As i am, too, as a father. Jason i worry, not having a total Immigration Debate but there is a difference between being here illegally and being here legally. You do a disservice to the legal immigrants by just saying, well, this guy was an immigrant. No he wasnt, he was an illegal immigrant. Its an allegation at this point. I want to get back to the case here. Mark, hes being charged with firstdegree murder. What is it going to take to prove that . What would police have proceed in order for a prosecutor to feel comfortable that, yeah, it was actually firstdegree . Its firstdegree because he wasnt involved with the victim. It wasnt a hot blood murder where he was involved in an argument with a spouse or a livein girlfriend. This was a directed Intent Murder where he actually formed the intent, which can be formed in just a matter of seconds, to actually kill her, and they are
going to do this forensically. Theyve got him to get to the point of capturing her, and then he blacks out until hes shes in the trunk. So they are going to fill that gap in forensically, they are going to have the cause and method of death, they are trying to get as much dna. The problem here is, 30 days in the elements, insects, animals, and the heat, which is the average temperature is about 87 degrees in iowa at this time of year, that creates a lot of decomposition. But i think they are going to achieve their goal and they will get a firstdegree conviction. Jason bill, is the fbi, the federal bureau of investigation, helping these Smaller Departments and agencies . Do they have the types of resources and can they quickly turn this around to help a Smaller Agency such as in iowa . Absolutely. That is why the fbi has resident agencies all over the country. In the smaller areas. The participation of agents and
police officers and Sheriffs Offices is is terrific today. Plus, theres the opportunity for the bureau to run classes and whatnot and for Police Departments, larger Police Department, to run those kind of classes for smaller Police Department as well. The spirit of cooperation is there. Anytime a Police Department wants something done, comes to the bureau, it will absolutely get done any to place in the country. Jason the fbi, one of the great bright spots for the fbi these days is the work that they do in their forensic labs at quantico and whatnot. Michael, i want to ask you one less question here. This kid is and a half situation. I dont want to say kid. I will call him a punk or a killer, at least a wedge, he will be in a very difficult situation. Does he have any chance of wiggling out of this at this point . We saw sadly with the kate steinle case, the state did not bring a good prosecution for a different forensics, very distinguished Law Enforcement officer spoke about today, i am a former federal prosecutor myself, it just the first step. The prosecution has to be
ironclad. I have to agree, it has to be strong and with due process to make sure that we send the message out, its not immigration. We dont Scapegoat Immigrants because of this son of a guns work. Jason Illegal Immigrants. Mark, last, very quick read. What are the Immigration Policies happening right now . How was that affecting the Los Angeles Area . I can tell you this, we never know what crimes are not committed because an illegal alien is stopped at the border. That is indisputable. You cant even argue that point. But the flood of Illegal Immigrants that are gang members is what is the catastrophic effect in communities and you cant control this by saying were going to let some across the borders and not let others. going to let others. Its got to be a Legal Immigration policy or no immigration illegally. Its an issue that cant be debated, that if you let somebody come in illegally, and they are a criminal, they are going to commit crimes, just like this crime. Jason gentlemen, thank you. I wish we had more time to discuss this. This case will go on. For the meantime, god bless this family and what they are doing governor Mike Huckabee is here tonight to discuss all the political fallout from todays major stories. Stay with us. Hes up next. American . It was not the best day for the president because two people closely associated with him either were convicted or pled guilty. Whether or not that stink ends up on him, time will tell. I think a lot of a lot of his supporters are not going to be persuaded by an attorney who has admittedly lied and by somebody who did things that are nothing to do with donald trump event happened years before he was even briefly associated with the campaign. But lets be honest, this is not the kind of thing that if you are donald trump, you want to have at the end of the day, two converging legal issues. But in the greater scheme of things, most people recognize this had nothing to do with russia, which was the whole point of the mueller investigation, and it also doesnt really show that there is a singlehanded form of justice being applied to democrats like hillary clinton, Whose Campaign funded the russian dossier, and all of these things surrounding the president. So i dont think that we know
whether it is going to have a big impact. My guess is, in the long term, it doesnt. But time will tell. I do think there is a huge impact on this issue with Mollie Tibbetts and what a heartbreaking situation. Congressman, i heard what you said a moment ago, couldnt agree with you more. You cant look at this just from a raw political standpoint. As you said, you look at this as a father, as a dad, and i just cant even get my arms around the grief of Mollie Tibbetts family. And the fact that this person shouldnt have been here, if there is not a pushback against open borders and Sanctuary Cities in the philadelphia mayor dancing in his office over Sanctuary Cities, i dont know what it is. Jason look at the average voter. I understand where republicans will be leaning one side and the democrats will be leaning but this truly independent person, the person who is maybe not watching every story and reading every news article that comes out, i personally, i dont believe that the cohen and
manafort story really moves the meter in any one direction, especially when they lost so much credibility of the last two years. But what does touch the heart, what does touch peoples emotions is what happened to Mollie Tibbetts because they can relate to her and she was murdered all the polls are showing that the number one issue is immigration. People say Dont Politicize it but how do we talk about in the same time not be criticized for being, you know, just throwing politics out . I find it interesting, congressman, that youve got a lot of democrats saying, we shouldnt be politicizing the Mollie Tibbetts murder but they are the ones that absolutely overwhelmingly politicize Parkland School shooting and every shooting that happens. Its a natural emotional reaction but what we have to do is examine policies to determine, can we fix that, can we do better . There is not a lot of sympathy
among even republicans for Paul Manafort for tax evasion or for lying about bank documents. I dont care who you are, democrat or republican. You are going to have to pay up for that and he is going to. If Michael Cohen committed crimes, he is going to have to answer for that. Just because they knew donald trump or had a relationship with him does not mean that whatever they did is automatically attached to the president , certainly not manafort, but all of us were attached to the unnecessary death of a young lady whose life was ahead of her and who is dead because we had a broken Immigration System and i think the republicans have a great opportunity to say, lets fix this. Say to the democrats, work with us to fix it and if you dont, then please dont tell us that you care about murder of these girls and the Immigration Policies that weve got to fix. Jason governor, i really do appreciate your perspective. Very kind of you to join us this evening. There are other sides to this story. Another perspective on the other side of the aisle, so joining me and now is democratic strategist jason nichols. Jason, thank you so much for joining me. I do appreciate it. I want to pick up from governor huckabee, the number one issue going into the election prior to this week is immigration. Yesterday, we ran stories about a person who was supposedly with his wife going to the hospital but i. C. E. Picked her up and then they ran all the stories about how heartless i. C. E. Was, ends up that he was wanted for murder, and the Mexican Government wanted us to detain him. Here, we have the allegation of the murder by an illegal immigrant, again, an allegation of a young woman who was going to be a junior in iowa. How is this not an issue and how is it that democrats think that they can actually take the positions that they have no
immigration and win . Well, i dont think anyone says this is not an issue and really quickly, i just want to send my heartfelt condolences out to the tibbetts family and also to the university of iowa. Im at the University Of Maryland and we have had some recent high Profile Deaths and i have had students who have passed away, so i want to send my condolences to that entire community. I dont think democrats are saying that immigration is not an issue and as a matter of fact, many are saying that this is a major issue and that we need comprehensive immigration reform. This is something that you, as a member of congress or former member of congress, know that both sides of the aisle agree that this is a major issue. We just dont agree on how to fix it and we dont think that separating families was the way to go about it. We dont think that some of the cruel policies jason wait a second. Donald trump didnt think we should be separating families, either. That was something that started in the obama administration. Come on, jason. That is absolutely untrue. You know that Catch And Release jason i was on the Immigration Subcommittee at the Judiciary Committee and i understand, jason. Catch and release was the obama policy. You might say that was flawed. Jason yes, i would. Separation of families, Zero Tolerance was a trump policy. Separation of families was a trump policy, jason wasnt that an obama policy . You know it was. The separation of families was not an obama policy. Jason those pictures were not under barack obama . This sounds a lot like whataboutism. You are a lot better than that. Jason facts will prove. I like, keep going. Let me ask you this. Democrats are advocating, big people like Kirstin Gillibrand and senator warren, are advocating the abolish of i. C. E. Ive never seen a National Party win collection by advocating getting rid of Law Enforcement and trying to demonize them as
if they are trying to be something wrong other than i was at a winning issue for democrats . This is oftentimes misunderstood. I think what people are calling for when they say the abolition of i. C. E. , they are talking about restructuring i. C. E. We think that i. C. E. Definitely does a great job when they are catching Cyber Criminals and catching Child Pornographers and doing many of the jobs that jason murderers. That many of them actually, a couple, i think it was 19 members of i. C. E. Said we want to focus on those important jobs, not on separating families and doing some of the other things that jason you are so conflating the issue. I. C. E. Does not detain those people. They dont when people come across the border, illegally, they dont necessarily going to i. C. E. The tension. It is homeland again, you are misunderstanding what it is that i am saying. Of course we know that i. C. E. Is not responsible for border enforcement, that is cbp. Border patrol. What im saying is that i. C. E. Does, you know, in the communities that i used to live in, many years ago, they use to actually do raids and all kinds of things and separate hardworking families. So one of the things that we are saying is that we need to restructure this particular Law Enforcement agency, just because i. C. E. Is a relatively new agency, as a matter of fact. Jason that the democrats helped create, by the way. They are enforcing laws that democrats voted and supported. Jason, i wish i could keep going with you. I love these kinds of debates. I know you believe wholeheartedly in what you are saying and we hope you have you back on this program again but i got to keep moving on. Thank you, jason. Thank you, jason. Jason protesters toppled a confederate statue at the university of north carolina. Is it mob rule or justified . Well debate it next. Justified . Wheel debated
portray. However, the fact that they did destroy public property is something of the university will take into consideration. Their methods and handling here are something that may not have been the best, however, i do believe that the University Administration needed to take into consideration the sentiment in that particular community, as it related to the statues, not only from individuals who didnt like them, but also some of the sentiment that they may invest and grow in individuals who seem to support them, in that outdated way of thinking. Jason eric, they are made be a legitimate debate but arent you concerned that here on a college campus, all of a sudden, they are just saying, hey, they are allowing this to continue, cops are called in, i mean, this is breaking the law, is it not . It is breaking the law but you have to understand, you also have similar situations when the university had won the championship. Theres also a lot of vandalism and things that goes on then. So at least this particular time it is not just a simple celebration of a sporting event, but these individuals are actively exercising their free
speech rights and doing something that jason it went overboard. I want to bring in horace. It wasnt just simply free speech. It was breaking the law correct . I understand it was breaking the law. Jason no, i want to go to horace. We got horace here with us as well. Horace, jump in here. Couple of things. One, to equate what happened when College Students drink too much, become overly exuberant, and celebrate, and resulting damages with intentional destruction of private property, those are not one in the same, those are not to be treated the same way. Yes, some damages can result from both, what we have to be very, very vigilant about making sure we are not telling young people that when you have a personal or political difference that the way to resolve that is with the use of force. Jason eric, do you agree with that or disagree with it . Horace makes a great point. Do you agree or disagree with that . I would agree to a point. The fact is, we never want individuals to resort to violence to solve everything. However, we have to look at the underlying reason at which the violence is being exhibited. Jason absolutely. But you are saying is justified . I never said it is justified jason you absolutely however, i did not say it is justified. The fact is, you have to understand what is going on and if you have Writing Situations where it goes on, whether they are for celebration or whether they are for the expression of free speech, they both have to be looked at for exactly what they are. So in this particular situation, we have a confederate statue, which is a divisive symbol on that campus that was toppled down. Therefore, there is an understandable reason jason eric, should those people be prosecuted . Yes or no . I do believe in some sort of fashion, there should be some
punishment because they did, as i stated, in an ordered society jason horace, what is your take . What should happen to the students that engage . They should be held accountable. Heres the problem. The real problem is this democrats put up the statues. Democrats engaged in behavior during my parents and grandparents and greatgrandparents lifetime terrorizing them. What we have learned from this event is there are people that, just like we did at the turnofthecentury, justified this behavior, called it underlying conflict and concerns, we have a similar mindset at work today. If you wish to remove the statues, there should be a political conversation and a process. The mob violence was not appropriate when it terrorized Black Americans in the 19th and 20th century and its not
appropriate now in the 21st century. Jason horace, well said. Eric, i appreciate you being here for the debate. It will continue on but thank you both for your perspective. You wouldnt say hollywood celebrities can debate themselves any further with their blind hatred of President Trump but you are wrong youre wrong because details are coming up after this. This wifi is fast. Jason hollywoods cultural rot on full jason hollywoods cultural rot on full display last nights mtv video music awards. The show in theory is supposed to honor the best in the music industry. Instead, it often devolved into antitrump antics in their cheapest form. Here is a sample. I understand we are live coasttocoast right now. Im looking at this like its game day, people. Do not worry, at these games you are allowed to kneel. You can do whatever you want. No old white men can stop you. You never know whats going to happen at the vmas. I mean, bad language, people sending out crazy tweets, its basically like a typical day at the white house. In your face, trump, suck it jason at least mtv wasnt rewarded. The ratings are in and they are the worst ever in the history of the vmas. When will they realize how
utterly disconnected they are from average americans . Joining me now with reaction, lisa boothe, fox news contributor, and josh mcbride is an entertainment and lifestyle expert. I remember when mtv was about duran duran and men at work. Im that old to remember when mtv started. Now it has devolved into this thing that i cant even recognize the hatred that is out there and what they are spewing and what they are showing. What is your take on that . Why do you think that the ratings are literally at their alltime lowest . I think these are two separate issues. The first one being, are they spewing hatred or were these two comedians doing their job on a network that has always been incredibly inclusive of sexuality, sexual orientation, race, religion . When we have a president that is not that inclusive. When we are talking about jason whats inclusive about their message that they are saying about, they are going against the law, that sort of thing . Isnt the law as in the
constitution say freedom of speech, as well . Two comedians, two africanamerican comedians are up there targeting a network, on a network that is incredibly inclusive of people that this president has been so lack thereof a better term not interested in, Doesnt Care About jason driving their unemployment levels to record from a race perspective, inclusive perspective, supporting of gay rights jason trump hasnt done anything that is antigay rights. This is a longer conversation. As far as sticking with this, this was a moment for two comedians who have freedom of speech. This is what exceedians do. Jason there were a lot of people there, lisa, they didnt think it was very funny. A large proportion of the population that voted for President Trump didnt feel included last night watching the vmas. Look, it is such an unoriginal
idea now to hate the president and to be critical of him in hollywood. Its also boring now. Its not even interesting anymore. They hate him, they go out and make the statements and there is no shock value. I remember Kathy Griffin held his head up, or a fake version of his head up. Snoop dogg shoots him in a video. Madonna threatens to blow up the white house. There is no shock value. It is boring. Nd be more original, hollywood. Also, you look another theyve had the lowest ratings ever. Oscars, lowest rating ever, vmas, nfl has also taken a significant hit. What is the common denominator with all of this . Theyve all gone overtly political. Can we just have entertainment and have us be entertaining without politics injected in it . I just want to have fun. Why are we so surprised at how they were to select . We do this after every its gotten so pathetic. Its not even interesting. Its not even entertaining. Jason but everyone is cheering in that audience. They all share the same viewpoint. If i dont want that viewpoint, i will change the channel just like i did. That is every tv show. Jason not fox news, ill tell you that. Thats literally every award show all the ratings going down, down. I dont think we can really say people tuned in for roseanne, things that they want to watch. You look at all of these, as i mentioned, vmas, emmys, oscars, even the nfl, everything that has gotten so overtly political, people are tuning out. They just want to be entertained. They dont want the volatility, they dont want the hostility, they just want something that is supposed to be entertaining to be entertaining. Jason this is the fundamental problem, the people that preach the most tolerant, they are the least tolerant among them. There used to be people like jay leno and whatnot, they picked on both sides. But when it is so onesided, that is what is wrong. I got to leave it there. I could go for a halfhour. Jason well be right back. Stay with us. Halfhour. Jas when my hot water heater failed, she was pregnant, inlaws were coming, a little bit of water, it really it rocked our world. I had no idea the amount of damage that water could do. We called usaa. And they greeted me as they always do. Sergeant baker, how are you . They were on it. It was unbelievable. Having insurance is something everyone needs, but having usaa now thats a privilege. Were the bakers and were usaa members for life. Usaa. Get your insurance quote today. It gives me more Healthy Energy to keep up with my hectic schedule and youre gonna love what it does for you too. [ tiffany ] i could definitely use a little more energy, especially if its from a natural source like beets. [ cliff ] if i had something natural and healthy that gave me energy, id be all in. [ randy ] energy equals happiness. [ loesch ] beets contain an Essential Nutrient that makes them one of the most hearthealthy vegetables in nature. Superbeets concentrates that nutrient. To get more oxygen flowing throughout your body naturally. It supports healthy blood pressure. Rgy to make the most of your day. [ male announcer ] find out how to get a free canister with your first order. Plus bonus gifts. Call. Or go to. [ loesch ] i just mix a teaspoon into a few ounces of water. Theres the natural apple flavor or black cherry flavor. It tastes great. [ patti ] it actually is good [ wayne ] well, thats good [ shannon ] its really yummy. [ randy ] its good flavor, im surprised. [ rene ] doesnt taste like beets at all. [ david ] ill finish this, by the way. Like, i really like it [ loesch ] what if you had more energy . Imagine the possibilities. [ janette ] you feel strong and you feel healthy and you feel like you can accomplish anything. [ charisse ] if im doing the things i need to do to give me the energy i feel better not only physically, but mentally. [ katy ] when my cup runneth over, then i can be better to other people. [ loesch ] so do something good for your heart, your circulation, your blood pressure, and your energy. Youll love superbeets or your money back. [ male announcer ] call now and find out how to get a free canister with your first order. Plus free indicator strips that show how its working. And shipping is free, too. [ loesch ] this superbeets offer isnt available in stores. So call or go online right now. [ male announcer ] superbeets from humann. Order your superbeets today. Call. Or visit. Thanks to laura ingram for allowing me to guest host tonight but a quick plug for my