People who feel threatened by cimmigrants and they are using this concept of unconstitutional he c might do away with daca, another moral line that he will be crossing, which is something that would be advancing White Supremacy agenda and also against what the majority of americans want. Tucker this isnt just demagoguery, though it is that. Its also nonsense, whatever you think of the effects of daca, no administration could continue it because its illegal. U. S. Immigration laws are pretty straightforward. If you are in the country illegally you were supposed to leave. If you think thats mean or counterproductive or unfair take it up with your legislators. Only congress can change the law. Ai w the president is bound to faithfully enforce the laws of the United States. He, or any president , can simply invalidate those he doesnt like. Former cabinet secretary gutierrez doesnt think this is a meaningful distinction but if you want to live in a constitutional democracy where laws are more powerful than men, nothing is more important than that. To ouror leaders there is indeed something more important than that. At political power. They have concluded that Mass Immigration means new and reliable voters and that means more power for them. If they need to support the rule of law to get that power they will and they have. In states across the county politicians actively boast about ignoring the law. They unilaterally declare their city, federal statutes invalid in their city, they part agents from buildings. They give drivers licenses and tuition to people who are here illegally. They refused to process immigrants for crimes that haveo nothing to do with immigration, in effect giving preference to illegals over their own citizens. G congress is a little better, they look away at the laws they pass. Obama decided to take this reasoning to his national end point. Openly ignore the law by creating daca. Like almost everything you hear from washington that was mostly propaganda. People came here illegally at 15 were just as eligible for amnesty as those who arrived as infants. Daca were not supposed to receive benefits, remember that . In new york daca qualify for both medicaid and cash assistance. This isnt simple about daca. It was indefensible, but it was one manifestation of an ominous. The global elite has given up on the concept for more than two millennia. Borders, citizenship and the rule of written law itself, all abandoned in favor of the worldwide rule of unaccountable technocrats. Just today from a Washington Post reporter and proud illegal alien jose antonio vargas, posted a picture of his fake Social Security card on twitter. They are not pretending anymore. Watch this. [indistinct] we need to make it clear that immigrants and immigration are here to stay. You are about to graduate into a complex and borderless world. Secretary clinton said this, my dream is a hemispheric Common Market with open borders sometime in the future. Is that her dream . Is that what she wants, open borders, and open market . Im glad you ask it that way because i dont think we can dignify documents dumped by wikileaks. Thats fair. Is this document accurate, did she tell brazilian bankers i have no way of knowing that. You could ask o her. Tucker she did, in fact. By the way, nobody was talking like this ten years ago, at least in public. This is all happening pretty fast so it might be worth pausing to think through thehe consequences of these new attitudes. Borders, laws, citizenship, they are big things to give up, especially when they are done by executive fiat without giving a vote to the masses who actually deal with the actual consequences of these changes. When you refuse toto control yor borders you are saying the country doesnt belong to its people. But to the whole world. You give away citizenship to anyone who wants it you are saying citizenship isnt worth anything. W is that really our position now . Congressman Henry Cuellar is it congressman from texas. Thank you so much, its been a good time talking to you. Tucker the United States should always allow minor Illegal Immigrants to stay in the country . And to get amnesty and citizenship for they should be deported under certain circumstances, what are the rules you are pushing for here . First of all i dont believe in open borders, i thinke county has the responsibility to enforce its laws. No ifs or buts about it. Number two, the question we had before is when we talk about dreamers, are we talking about we have a problem with the implementation of this, should it be executive, congress, or do we have a basic issue with the Public Policy . In this case were not talking about criminals, were talking about kids, the average age of them the age of six. We educated them, so what do we do with those individuals, do we use prosecutorial discretion . We have to look at whats in the best interest of the country. Tucker its an tough question, nobody is saying is not a tough question and thats why we are having this conversation, but by acting, or by explaining your position you are setting a rule that people can look back and say theres the rule. So what is the rule . People will continue to come here underage, brought here by their parents for a long time to come. H what should we do with him . Should we always let them stay if they are under 16 . What you think we should do . First of all, again we start off with the basic premise, every country has to enforce the laws at the border. Second of all tucker if we are going to enforce our laws we say you have to leave, leave now. That would be enforcing our laws, but we are not doing that. Then we look at the circumstances. We have an individual that violated the law, the parents get that. Are we going to punish the kids because of the sins of the parents that they committed 20 years ago . We educated those kids, we spent millions of dollars. Tucker i get it by the way im not minimizing what youre saying because i think these are real problems and they are. But imd wondering Going Forward is this going to happen a lot, every year for decades, anybody who makes it across the border the children in tow by standards you arer articulating gets to stay, is that what youre saying. If thats not what youre saying then under what circumstances are we willing to say leave . Kids have been here, some of them for 20 years or longer. When it comes into those newly recent individuals, i think we have ice working on that to make sure that we enforce the laws of those recent immigrants that have come in. If somebody has been here 20 years or so, they got here, theyve been educated, we spent money on getting them educated, going to college, some of the military members of our military, some of them are teachers, what are we supposed to do, just go ahead and throw them out . Tucker heres what we should do, is be clear with the rest of the world what our rules are because otherwise daca did in 2014, a ton of families from central america. What are we telling the rest of the world, that as longen as you hide successfully from ice for 20 years you can stay . Whats the time limit . How long do you need to evade the law before we give you citizenship . What is the rule, i think its fair to ask what the rule is. Exactly. Theres been this prosecutorial discretion that both democratic and republican administrations have used for many years. Lets go back to what happened two years ago, three years ago. We were enforcing the laws and in fact i was one of the ones that thought we ought to make sure that we apply the same rules toh everybody like we apply it to the canadians and the mexicans, they come in, we treat them a particular way,ex everybody else gets treated very differently. I feel that we ought to enforce the law. We do have some people here that have been here for a while. Whats in the best interest of the country, do we just go ahead and kick out individuals that have been here for 20 years w tt were here tucker with respect to or not answering i dont think what youre saying is crazy but youre not answer my question. You said three times im for enforcing the laws but then youre not four enforcing the laws, you are for making exceptions to the laws. Again, with all respect, i am. We start with the bases, we enforce the laws that we have. We look at circumstances, we look at prosecutorial enforcement tucker how many years do you have to stay here . How many years to have to stay here before we kick you out . . Again this is something that i think congress will have to debate and this is why i feel that congress we are going to be debating this. Tucker you are in congress, what a do you think te time limit should be . This is again something that we will be looking at andti i think we ought to be looking at this. The same thing tucker you dont have an opinion on it . If i ask you, should you be responsible for the sins of her parents that they committed 20 years ago . This is something that we all need to have ame healthy debate and we are going to in congress. Tucker lets not be demagogic about this. You are a lawmaker. Im just asking at what point do we stop enforcing the law . How long does the person have to evade getting caught you are not going to answer the question. You made a comment, let me finish. Tucker okay. Nobody is trying to demagogue the issue. Im trying to give you what we need tove do. We start out with a basic premise, we will enforce the laws. We agree on that. Tucker thats the premise youre starting with. Ta thats the basic premise. We enforce the laws. The question is what we do about the special circumstances. When you look at the law, do we have an issue tucker you are spinning. Do ive asked you the same question four times, which is at what point do we decide we are not going to enforce these laws . You wont answer the question. You keep asking the same question. Tucker im getting frustrated because you are debating the question. You keep asking the same question i will giveed you the same answer. Tucker whats the standard . The rest of the world wants to know how do i get past the laws of the United States. If i stay there longt enough tn the laws are waves and i get government benefits, my kids get state tuition, i get amnesty and become a citizen. Whats the standard, how long do you have to stay here . 26,000 people unemployed in the 28th district state of texas, its pretty high. Why would you want a single job in your district to go to someone here illegally, one of the socalled dreamers before it went to an american citizen . I dont understand that. Its very simple, the same demagoguery that you are now talking about. We give the chaps of the americans and any american that doesnt want the job, we will give it to somebody that wants to do the job. These people have been here for many years, a lot of them didnt even know. Tucker youma got 8 unemployment. You think what none of those people want the job . Its a lot lower than that. Its actually a lot lower than that. Its a lot lower than that. Tucker i just read that about 4 minutes ago. You put it into black and white type of situation of course we want to get we want to create jobs but remember these folks got extreme vetting. If you want to talk about extreme vetting. Tucker you are saying that noneem of the 28,000 26,000 people in your district want a job that one of the dreamers has, they dont want that, is that what youre saying . T of course they want the jobs. Tucker why would you be giving preference to someone here illegally . They are not here illegally. They are not here illegally. Of course we want to create jobs. And those members are helping, theyre working, military, what are you going to tell one of those dreamers in the military defending your rights right now . Tucker im fors them. Im just asking a question about the Unemployment Rate in your district. Im for the military. What you tell a dreamer, with all due respect that defending your rights right now, defending your rights as an american. Tucker look, iig respect people who are serving our country, noo matter where they are from. But im not talking about them, as you know. What do you tell them . Tucker i would say give preference to the americans before the illegals. The military soldier tucker we are out of time. I would say thank you as i say to all members of the4 military. Thank you, congressman. We are now joined by the executive director for the center for immigration studies. This is being kicked to the congress. A lot of members, the Republican Leadership are for daca. Er speaker of the house basically said that he is. What do you expect the congress to do with that . This is not something i would bet on. If i had to bet, theres a reason the republicans are called the stupid party, i think they will screw it up. Kind of two scenarios. One is they do nothing and dont pass anything. But if they pass something theres kind of two scenarios. One is they do with the gang of eight folks and what apparently paul ryan want, which is just a plain amnesty for the people who have daca. Formalizing obamas illegal grant of amnesty to these people. Maybe dress it up with a little bit of enforcement, lipstick. A little money for the wall or something but that for meip is a nightmare scenario because they give away the leverage of daca,g get nothing in return and this is maybe even more important, they pass the amnesty for m the daca without any measures that would limit trying to contain the damage that comes from any amnesty. So my ideal scenario is the amnesty, just quick, clean, quick rip off the bandaid, give them a green card. But they passed two important measures as part of that deal that limits the damage. One is because every amnesty encourages more ilLegal Immigration. Tucker as we seen repeatedly. Would be to mandate the Online System that helps weaken the magnet of jobs. So that tomorrow another parent with a 3yearold doesnt come here illegally. Wont be able to. The other thing is that every amnesty causes a surge of Legal Immigration down the road because of the way our family chain migration works. You sponsor your relatives and then he sponsors his relative and it goes on forever. We would have to have some of the elements of senator cotton and senator purdues bill which tries to modernize Legal Immigration system and slam it down. If you had those two elements combined with the daca amnesty, that i think would be good policy and good politics. Ththe question is, is anybody ia Republican Leadership willing to push for that . And im not sure thats the case, unfortunately. Tucker do you know anyone who is . The speaker of the house. Senator cotton has spoken out in favor of it. Senator cotton, he is on the record as saying this is a case to make for amnesty at the daca. But only if its combined with the act and everify. I think that something the white house has also talked about in the general sense. My concern is the white house doesnt have a legislative strategy. They didnt think this out ahead of time, they are just bouncing it back to congress, which is where its supposed to be. The president has a role in kind of giving them directions and this is what we would like to see, lets talk about it. I dont know if thats happening. At maybe it is, but it doesnt look like it. Tucker they had no choice, they are being sued over daca. Daca is illegal, no matter what you think of it. Theres no question its illegal. Tucker good to see. from charlottesville to california, statues are under attack across the United States despite the fact that they are not real. Up next will talk to dennis gregor, who says they are preventing work on former serious issues and maybe thats the point that in the first place. Plus, was Bernie Sanders a macedonian agent all along . Ac new excerpt from Hillary Clintons book to blame sanders for defeat along with the russians, the macedonians, theelo texans along with others. 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Both monuments are currently covered with burqas to protect the very sensitive people of charlottesville from fainting at the sight of them. Similar statue battles are being fought in dozens of cities across the country. Radio show host dennis, the battle over statues is him as a distraction from real life. Thanks a lot for coming on tonight. Always good to be with you, tucker. Tucker thank you. The thesis of my column is very important that i set t this out at the outset. Those who did not fight real evil fight statues. This is part of a rule of life that i established many years ago. I think its a defining characteristic of the left, not of liberals necessarily but on the left. That is they dont fight the biggest evils, they fight made up evils instead. They didnt fight communism, they fought anticommunism. They dont fight islamism, they fight islam a phobia. This is another example of that. Real evil, the left is awol. Statues, they dont fight back and they are immobile, you will not get hurt smashing a statue. So this is their big battle. Why not just fight real evil . Wouldnt that be more productive . Yes it would be done, look, this is a very tough question, why dont people fight real evil is one of the l great philosophical questions of life. Why do they fight little or evils . S . I think in part, a to say it because there are some nice people all over the political spectrum, but i think ultimately its tough to fight real evil. The left fights for example religious fundamentalism in america, those nasty christians. But when it comes to theun ayatollah, they are pretty awol again. The really bad religious crowd they have nothing to say about so who do they fight . Really tough people like franklin graham, these are the real threats to america. Wherever you look, thats what the left does, they dont fight the realal threats. Tucker the coming theocracy, remember that. You dont let your wife drive a car, thats totally fine, thats a different culture. But i wonder if refusing to fight evil is in complicity with it . S in the final analysis if you hate reagan more than you hate brezhnev, then you have aided brezhnez what they were were antianticommunist. When Ronald Reagan said it was an evil empire of the left went ballistic. Tucker i remember. It was a simple truism. Tucker it seems rooted in us. I hate to reduce it to this because im not trained as a shrink. I was a russian history major. Me too tucker a lot of it seems like working out of psychological impulses. Underlying a lot of this seems to be the of the left to be virtuous. I have proved that im a good person and you are not. Theres proof to that. The selfesteem movement, we talked about this but i was there at the beginning, it was founded in my state, californiaw by john. A liberal democrat, a member of the state senate in california, i had him on my show and he said tosa me, this was not hidd, he was a wonderful man. He said when i realized when i was in therapy that i lacked selfesteem as a kid so i realized how important selfesteem is and you are right, this is truly acting out some psychological phenomenon of his own life and it turns out that the movement, the selfesteem movement has been utterly destructive. I have proof for that too. Everyone watching should ask the kindest, finest adults they know the following question. Did you have high selfesteem when you were a child . Every single good, kind person will say no. Tucker of course thats totally obvious i love that. This feeling, this moral virtuosity, i fight, nazis, ia jew, ive written one of the most widely read books explaining antisemitism. I helped smuggle jews out of the soviet union as a kid. I dogg not fear the nazis of america. They are a nonissue in my life. Tucker they are losers i totally agree. Dennis, great to see you. Thanks. Cnn seems happy to keep the belt employed as a host even as he egged on antifa violence. Up next we will talk to jeffrey lord, who said that network has big doublet standards for his employees politically. I love to eat. I love hanging out with my friends. I have a great fit with my dentures. I love kiwis. Ive always had that issue with the seeds getting under my denture. Super poligrip free. It creates a seal of the dentures in my mouth. Even well fitting dentures let in food particles just a few dabs of super poligrip free is clinically proven to seal out more food particles so youre more comfortable and confident while you eat. Super poligrip free made even the kiwi an enjoyable experience try super poligrip free. Im living that yacht life, life, life top speed fifty knots life on the caribbean seas its a champagne and models potpourri on my yacht made of cuban mahogany, gany, gany, gany, gany watch this dont get mad bell mnemonic get e trade and get invested tucker last week we spoke on the show about kamau bell, he hosts cnn united shades of america. The same time he was labeling his political opponents as nazis, a week ago he was in egging oncalifornia, antifa. They later violentlyly attacked from supporters, watch this. As they leave, goodbye you have to stand up for the black peopleyo or the brown peoe or thehe lgbt people of the immigrants for everybody every day tucker what is that . That guy is hosting a show on cnn. Pretty bizarre. Shortly after the segment aired and we raised those questions we were contacted by pharmacy and political commentator jeffrey lord. He notices theres a distinct double standard at cnn, to put it mildly to what bell can get away with and the rules imposed on him when he worked at cnn. Jeffrey joined us tonight to explain it. Coming on. You saw that tape, what was the first thing you thought when you saw that . I was asked when the candidate donald trump was here in the area, i was in a holding room while he finished a Television Interview and i was asked by Jared Kushner if i would introduce him. I declined because i wasnt sure that that was a good idea a good thing to do in terms of cnn standing up there speaking to a rally and introducing a candidate. The next time he appeared here i went to the rally and told cnn ahead of time that i would be there and that i had been asked previously and its conceivable i could be asked to introduce him now as president elect of the unitedio states. I was asked not to do so, not to speak nor to introduce it. Just when i saw that clip i thought that was a little curious. Tucker its amazing. You were a commentator, he was hosting the i show there. You werent planning to egged on Violent Lunatics dressed in. Black, but address the mainstream political event. You were told not to but hek, wasnt allowed. He wasnt punished anyway. We called cnn to ask about this and they didnt get back to us. Do you think its strange for ap News Organization to decline comment on a new story . They have their standards. I know they are unhappy with me. I was fired from cnn for mockiny nazistyle tactics from media matters against when i knew perfectly well tucker explain what happened. This is one of the reasons im againstt twitter because it sees like its designed to create problems like this. He tweeted something that looks really ugly out of context. Explain what the context was there. Ou the context was i had written a column and had used the sentence in there that the American Spectator was unable to confirm that media matters redrafting of the First Amendment and the two words sieg heil. Cnn immediately took at the wrong way. They have the right to hire and fire everyone they want. Im not sure they understood that i was aware that this group had been had gone after a businessman in new york, a gentleman by the name of mark stevens, who by the way is jewish and terrorized his business. Tucker just to be clear, you were using that you were using that term as a way you were not endorsing that term . Correct. Tucker, i believe that its okay to mock people who use nazistyle tactics, to mock nazis. White separatist, white supremacist, the ku klux klan, neonazis. These people have no role in ouc americanam civic society. I found it interesting that the president was being accused of not calling out people by name. I called out people by name and i gotle fired for it. Tucker i was just confused by it. I dont work at cnn anymore and i dont look at twitter. They were accusing you of a agreeing with a term that you used when in fact you are using it to mock the person you are corresponding with, correct . In a sense that the way it appeared to me. They said it was indefensible. As i said, ive written this in a column that appeared in the American Spectator two days earlier. There was no reaction. Why would there be . Ive gone on record about these kinds of things. I have plenty of columns out there. Tucker it sounds to me like if you were prevented speaking at a trump valley, kamau bell is cheering on antifa, theres a double standard at cnn depending on what your political views are. On yeah. Certainly it seems that way to me. Im not big on needless to say firing people. Maybe weve entered this whole new world of twitter here. How do you have robust debates with people i was very adamant about calling these people out because of their tactics, becauseam of what i knw they had done to mr. Stevens. They basically terrorized him. His business, et cetera. As i say, hes jewish. Its deeply offensive and deeply wrong and i spoke out about it. Tucker good for you. Look, im not calling for kamau bell to be fired, having been fired im not calling for anybody to be fired. I would just like to know what the rules are. When did it become okay to cheer on thanks a lot for coming on and explaining that to us tonight. Thanks tucker. Tucker in her upcoming book which you have doubtless preordered but not seen Hillary Clinton lays blame according to excerpts we have, heavy blame in fact on senator Bernie Sanders for her defeat last fall. Was sanders in league with the macedonians . De we will talk to a former clinton advisor and get to the bottom of this brandnew charge. 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Tucker those of you keeping a list at home for the villains Hillary Clinton has blamed for her loss last fall, there were the russians, jimim comey, the macedonians, there was sexism, there was dumbness from the middle of the country and now Bernie Sanders has made the list. In newly leaked excerpts from her forthcoming book, what happened, the formerke secretary of state says sanders lengthy primary challenge did lasting damage to her campaign and paved the way for trumps unexpectedag victory. She also called many sanders supporters sexist and he only ran in order to disrupt the democraticct party. A former clinton advisor and he joins usar tonight. The obvious temptation for me is to point out how deeply sad this is an to play shrink and she needs help and when is she going her husband, she probably already does. Im not going to do any of it. If i wont deal with the facts of her claims. How are Bernie Sanders bearded, sandalclad, often genderneutral, hypersensitive supporters sexist . I dont understand, how are they sexist . Tucker, there was a lot if you went on twitter and in the blogosphere to kind of support her claim. You like including the macedonians in this litany. As if somehow the russians, who the Intelligence Community say mettled in our election and the outrage that donald trump shows zero interest in getting to the bottom of this. Tucker to beat up on the poor macedonians. Wed spoken to actual macedonians. We didnt let this matter lie because were journalists. We went out and found macedonians. If you knew the deep resentment they feel towards her and her enablers, its a whole can of worms are not going to open. How are cto Bernie Sanders supporters sexist . This is the least sexist group in the history of sexism, what does that mean . Bernie sanders got off so easily in the campaign and all the postmortems about what happened, somebody who talked about nationalizing the banks,st the oil industry and telecom. I guarantee itit is not one of your viewers knows that because nobody during the campaign talked about that. Tucker he said it every speech. A nationalizing the banks, the Oil Companies and telecom in his speeches. Tucker im not defending Bernie Sanders silly socialism at all. I do think you are allowed toh have opinions that are different from Hillary Clinton. You are allowed to try and break the monopoly she had in the democratic party. Indeed it turns out legally you are allowed to run against herpo in the democratic primary. Thats a real complaint, that someone would dare run against her. Heres the complaint you are belittling it. Tucker intentionally. Great. Onethird of the people who voted for sanders and then trump had voted for hillary, she wins. If the jill stein voters had voted for hillary in wisconsin she would have carried those. The point is not about the clinton monopoly on the democratic party, the point is that bernie misled his people by all of these policies that no policy expert thought he could deliver on. These people were idealist or some of them were desperate. They badmouth her to the end. Some voted for jill stein, some voted for gary johnson. Shame on Bernie Sanders for not doing more to bring them along. Tucker may i ask you a question . Responsible for the policies we have. A tucker okay. Has it occurred to you that Bernie Sanders had a lot of kooky ideas, i agree, but he sincerely believed that a lot oh them. And saying next to hillary, who believes only in her self, utterly transactional and totally shallow and not super bright to be honest. His sincerity diminished her because it reveals her to be the careerist that she is. Is that his fault . I hear everybody talk about what a terrible candidate she was. F i hear from surrogates talking about what a marvelous candidate tucker i dont think she was aid terrible candidate. I dont think she would be a good president honestly. The terrible candidate got over 3 million more votes in a fantastic candidate. You can belittle her intelligence, youre the only person that has intelligence who believes thatt Hillary Clinton s not a smart person. Tucker maybe shes smarter than i am. I dont think she is dumb anything i followed hillary, a newspaper in arkansas 25 years ago. I followed them pretty close it for a decade, ive never heard her say one thing that wasnt banal and conventional. Im being sincere. I havent heard her say one interesting, insightful, thoughtful thing. It takes a village to raise a child, i its crap and boring. Somehow or other 48. 2 of i e public got behind her and only 46 supported trump. Its amazing to me what people say electorate supported trump and he therefore should do x, they didnt. Give him credit, he won the election. I dont deny that. The virtue of this book will be a reminder that the russians could meddle with our system, they are now public enemy number one and the fact that look what putin said that about north korea. Tucker its the russians. I want you to come back and we will have a long russia conversation because now im finding it pretty funny. Great to see you tonight, thank i you. Googles censorship web keep spreading wider and now its trying to control Tech Companies it doesnt even own. Up next we will talk to the founder of gab, a freespeech social media app that has been googles app store because google does not believe in free speech and its a monopoly. We will tell you more when we come back. Why do you do it . Its not just a pay check, you actually like what you do. Even love it. And today, you can do things you never could before. 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The founder and ceo joins us tonight. I just want to state that, according to google you have a responsibilityj to police the political views of people who use your app andli because you dont they are kicking you off. A correct. When we founded gab about a year ago we founded it specifically to avoid this purpose. I didnt want to police speech. I believed in free speech for everybody, individual liberty for everybody and the free flow of information for everybody. Tucker m but they dont . Correct. Whats happening in Silicon Valley right now is they are using these arbitrary hate speech policies which isis stemming right out of germany and out of the e. U. And they are applying it to the entire internet. The left likes to say if you like the hate speech policies of facebook and twitter why dont you go build your own, so thats what we did and now what we dont like they are doing is you are not allowed to do that either. You are not allowed to have your app in our app stores. You have a duopoly of google and apple that only control 95 of the market both on mobile hardware and on Software Distribution on that mobile hardware. How are we supposed to compete, how are we supposed to build an alternative platform when we are not allowed to be in these app stores . Tucker this is a nightmare scenario that people talk about when you study them monopolies or duopolies. They control everything to the extent that they crush any innovation, and a diversity, thats what we have now, isnt it . Absolutely. What we are seeing is a pretty classic duopoly. Apple and google controlling and owning 95 plus percent of mobile hardware and mobile software. Im a big believer in the free market but i think that the free market is rigged by these two companies and i think that gab is a pretty solid example of that anticompetitive behavior in action. Tucker this is the least free market imaginable. Just to be totally clear, the people who have been banned and im aware of from twitter or facebook, these are not isis recruiters who are trying to convince others to go on suicide missions. These are people like milo, who you might think is offensive or outrageous but hes not advocating violence, right . Heres the thing, too, if not even big names like that, its your aunt, your little cousin. Facebook is banning over 1 million accounts a day now for hate speech. This is absolutely absurd. Who are the Silicon Valley techh giants, these modernday robber barons, to tell us as americans what the First Amendment what we can and cannot talk about, what opinions we can hold and who and who not we can vote for, tucker i dont know why the government is standing back and letting this happen. Its scary. Because they are bought and paid for, thats why. On w gab, thats the alternative. Thanks a lot, andrew, i appreciate it. Thank you. 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