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Of this. Surely its tax cuts or die for the tories. And thats all coming up in your next hour. Thank you for joining all coming up in your next hour. Thank you forjoining me on the thank you for joining me on the show. Your company is always a pleasure. Now you might say, why do people in politics give as much interest to gaza as they do to glasgow or gateshead or gillingham or gloucester . Well, gillingham or gloucester . Well, theres a huge vote tonight on this matter. A massive protest outside and later in the show weve got an exclusive interview with a councillor from a tiny cumbrian town on the coast called hillam. Then theyve had for three Asylum Seekers dumped on their town, where theres a critical shortage of housing for locals. No gp appointments, no dentists. The nearest hospital 40 minutes away, the nearest cop shop 45 minutes away. Theyre voiceless. Theyve been trampled voiceless. Theyve been trampled down. Were going to give them a voice and try and get action thats coming up on the show straight after your latest news headunes straight after your latest News Headlines with sam francis. Headlines with sam francis. Martin, thank you very much. Good afternoon. From the gb news room. Itsjust good afternoon. From the gb news room. Its just gone 3 00 and we start with the news that weve been covering in the last couple of hours. The Commons Speaker has sparked fury this afternoon by going against convention and selecting both the government and labours amendments for a debate on the snp motion for a Gaza Ceasefire. This was the Gaza Ceasefire. This was the moment sir Lindsay Hoyle made that announcement in westminster. Order, order youll be going and not be bought. It thats the first one to leave. Then well, on whats supposed to be the snp opposition day, the speaker has defied precedent, selecting two opposition amendments. He has described the amendments. He has described the decision as a move away, though from an outdated approach. But in response, members of the snp were heard shouting shame on you, while the commons clerk, tom goldsmith, wrote that long standing Convention Rules are not being followed. That was in a letter to the speaker that has been obtained by gb news for those watching on tv, you can see here live pictures of those ongoing debates inside the ongoing debates from inside the commons. We will, of course, commons. We will, of course, keep you keep across that for you throughout of this throughout the rest of this afternoon. Understand that afternoon. We understand that labours amendment will be debated first and that will then be followed by the snps original motion , well also in original motion, well also in the commons today. Original motion, well also in the commons today. The labour the commons today. The labour leader pressed the Prime Minister on allegations that were made by the business secretary that the former post office boss had lied about a row over compensation to victims of the horizon scandal. The the horizon it scandal. The deepening round dominated Prime Ministers questions this lunchtime after Kemi Badenoch accused henry storton of spreading falsehoods and what she said was making up an astonishing series of claims. That was after he said the government had deliberately delayed compensation payments. Delayed compensation payments. Miss badenoch said mr miss badenoch also said mr stauntons claims were a blatant attempt to seek revenge after he was sacked. Sir keir starmer asked rishi sunak if he backed the business secretarys claims. The business secretarys claims. I appreciate that the business secretary has put the Prime Minister in a tricky position, but but, but will he commit to investigate this matter properly in including whether that categoric statement was correct and why, rather than taking those accusations seriously , she accused a seriously, she accused a whistleblower of lying. Whistleblower of lying. In response, rishi sunak insists he is standing by his business secretary, but he kept the focus on what he called the unprecedented steps the government is taking to support victims of the scandal. Victims of the scandal. People who were working hard, serving their communities had their lives and reputations destroyed and thats why we are working hard to ensure that they get justice and compensation. And thats why we established sir wyn williams inquiry. It is why we have already paid out over £150 million of compensation to almost 3000 victims, and its why we will introduce new legislation shortly to exonerate those, we will make sure that we do what is needed, that the truth does come to light. We right the wrongs of the past and, crucially, that victims get the justice that they deserve. Justice that they deserve. Another story making the news today downing street has said it does still have complete confidence in britains Nuclear Deterrent , despite a missile deterrent, despite a missile misfiring and crashing into the ocean from a British Nuclear submarine, hms vanguard. Its submarine, hms vanguard. Its the second time a test has failed and the government is unable to say when the last successful test took place, defence secretary grant shapps was on board when the £17 million misfire took place. The million misfire took place. The ministry of defence says it was unusual, but they insist the deterrent is still safe, secure and they say effective. The uk and they say effective. The uk has frozen the assets of six russian officials in charge of the arctic prison camp, where Opposition Leader Alexei Navalny died last week. The fresh died last week. The fresh sanctions were announced by foreign secretary lord David Cameron ahead of a g20 meeting with foreign ministers. Cameron ahead of a g20 meeting with foreign ministers. Today. With foreign ministers. Today. The sanctioned individuals will also be banned from entering the uk , and theyre the first uk, and theyre the first sanctions any country has imposed on russia since the putin critics death last friday. Lord camerons russian counterpart, sergey lavrov, is also expected to attend the g20 meeting today. Protesters here meeting today. Protesters here in london are once again gathered outside the royal courts of justice as wikileaks founder Julian Assange makes his final appeal against possible extradition to the us. The National Union of journalists is holding a free Julian Assange demonstration , and its over an demonstration, and its over an alleged conspiracy to publish leaked documents relating to the afghanistan and iraq wars. The afghanistan and iraq wars. The long running case could be assanges final chance to avoid spending the rest of his life behind bars in the us , patients behind bars in the us, patients and their families will have quick and easy access to a second medical opinion if theyre worried about a condition getting worse. Condition getting worse. Marthas rule coming into force from april means an urgent review by a different Critical Care team in hospitals can be requested if a patients condition is getting rapidly worse and the new rule follows the death of 13 year old martha mills in 2021, who developed sepsis while she was under the care of Kings College hospital in london because her symptoms were missed and those are the headunes were missed and those are the headlines to keep across all of the days stories. You can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen. Or, of course, go to our website gbillionews. Com alerts. And. Thank you sam, and thank you for joining us on the Martin Daubney show. Weve got so much to get through today. A huge day aheadin to get through today. A huge day ahead in politics and outside parliament. A mob is already growing a fight my way growing at a fight my way through them in. Theres through them to get in. Theres a protest 5 00. I reckon a big protest at 5 00. I reckon its to get tasty. Its going to get really tasty. Well have latest on on well have all the latest on on the and here we have some the show and here we have some live now from live shots right now from parliament the debate is parliament because the debate is raging i should even worn raging on. I should even worn a pro palestine scarf. Theyre pro palestine scarf. Theyre beautiful now lets get through this. Got chris hope in the studio with me to go through all of this. And Commons Speaker sir lindsay selected Lindsay Hoyle has selected amendments tabled by labour and the government to the snps Gaza Ceasefire motion. Mr speaker has been accused of moving the goalposts and cries to bring back bercow. Why is it that bad . Well heard in the commons as sir Lindsay Hoyle explained his reasoning behind selecting both sets of amendments and this comes as later today, mps will be voting in the house of commons around about 7 00. We believe on holding an immediate ceasefire in gaza. Well, as i said , joined now in studio by gb said, joined now in studio by gb news Political Editor christopher hope. So, chris, christopher hope. So, chris, a dramatic day ahead in parliament. I want to ask a bafic parliament. I want to ask a basic question. I think a lot of people out there in gb news land will be asking , why do will be asking, why do politicians give so much bandwidth to gaza instead of gateshead, glasgow , gillingham gateshead, glasgow, gillingham or gloucester . Parliament sees itself as somewhere where the big issues of the globe are debated as much as uk. Added to as those in the uk. Added to that, gaza is very divisive for lots of communities is israel allowed to defend itself . But allowed to defend itself . But how far does that go . And is it . Should it be allowed to . Um, you know, level parts of gaza as, as has happened and at what point is that overstating over overplaying where it should be given what happened . So thats a debate in lots of communities around country. Added to around the country. Added to that theres differential that, theres differential views on this amongst different parties. And as a general election coming up. So put all that together. Thats why its being debated in house of being debated in the house of commons. Happened commons. Whats happened today is lindsay at the is Lindsay Hoyle is at the speaker a football match. Is Lindsay Hoyle is at the spea meanti football match. Is Lindsay Hoyle is at the spea meant to iotball match. Is Lindsay Hoyle is at the spea meant to ensure match. Is Lindsay Hoyle is at the spea meant to ensure thath. Is Lindsay Hoyle is at the spea meant to ensure that the hes meant to ensure that the laws of game followed, laws of the game are followed, or of the house of or the laws of the house of commons are followed. Um, and of course, Standing Orders and house of normal the house of commons normal when the snp a motion around snp have done a motion around gaza, theyre trying trying gaza, theyre trying to trying to support an to get mps to support an immediate ceasefire and condemn the collective punishment of palestinians. Um, only normally the government can amend that. With its view, the speaker has allowed labour to add its own amendment, that gives sir amendment, and that gives sir keir a get out Keir Starmers mps a get out clause because their motion is slightly different. Theyre saying that assault on rafah saying that the assault on rafah must not take place and theyre demanding an immediate humanitarian ceasefire for a bit different the snp. It allows different to the snp. It allows labour to go somewhere to labour mps to go somewhere to support calls for this humanitarian ceasefire and not have to back the snp and the resign from the frontbench. So its politics in play and thats why tories are saying bring why the tories are saying bring back because bercow, john back bercow because bercow, john bercow had here was bercow of course, had here was similarly of being similarly accused of being biased. Uh, similarly accused of being biased. Uh, he similarly accused of being biased. Uh, he would that biased. Uh, he would deny that dunng biased. Uh, he would deny that during the, the Brexit Debates, all those years ago. I half joked chris, if and i half joked chris, if its bring back bercow, we now weve got to be in a bit of a state. But all of this is performative. These votes wont have any actual legislate impact. Nothing will happen. It wont change netanyahus mind. Wont change netanyahus mind. It wont have impact even on it wont have any impact even on british policy. Is it just british policy. So is it just performative , virtue signalling perform ative, virtue signalling posturing . Its performative, virtue signalling posturing . Its performance posturing . Well its performance in sense. In a sense. It will have bearing yes. It will have no bearing on government policy towards on uk government policy towards supporting israel and backing this. This idea of an immediate humanitarian pause backing humanitarian pause and backing israels right to self defence. That change. Um whats that wont change. Um whats happening here is the snp are trying to force labour mp to go further than their Party Leadership on a ceasefire , and leadership on a ceasefire, and the tories will have that to happen. The tories will have that to happen. And the speaker, lindsay happen. And the speaker, Lindsay Hoyle, a former labour mp now independent, has given them a get out clause and thats why theyre get out clause and thats why the bercow okay, well bercow okay, well stick around, because, around, chris, because, um, im now former now going through former conservative ann conservative minister Ann Widdecombe , who joins me the widdecombe, who joins me on the show with as welcome as ever to the show an theyre saying bring back bercow you gods is it that bad . Bad . Uh, well i dont think they meant it, but, uh, what they were saying was, yes, you know, this is what he used to do. He used to break with precedent and say, well, you know, precedents are to be broken. Are there to be broken. Know, actually and, you know, but i actually i understand this entirely. And, you know, but i actually i understand this entirely. This is a Major International issue. Its not just a british issue. Its not just a british issue. Its a Major International issue. The British Parliament is debating it. I think it would be very odd indeed if the speaker did not allow both the government and the official opposition. I know that the snp opposition. I know that the snp would love to be the official opposition, but it aint why the speaker should allow the government and the official opposition to put down amendments in these circumstances. I do understand it, and whatever uproar it might cause, i think , you know, this cause, i think, you know, this is a precedent that is worth having and when it comes down to it , these arent binding votes. It, these arent binding votes. They have no teeth or impact. They have no teeth or impact. Netanyahu wont listen to this in the same way he didnt listen to the red cross or the united nafions to the red cross or the United Nations or south africa or anybody so domestically, anybody else. So domestically, politically. And whats it about politically. And whats it about as well as showing out our beef on the world stage . Is it a is it just jostling for position ahead of a general election . Is it about trying to damage the government . Is it about the government . Is it about the muslim vote help me out. Its about the general election. Its about, uh, trying to appeal for votes. Its about saying, you know , look, we are saying, you know, look, we are very humane people and we dont agree with whats going on. It will have no impact at all on israel. No impact at all. Israel. No, no impact at all. Uh, it will have no impact at all on the way that any other International Body deals with this. It is posturing, uh, International Body deals with this. It is posturing , uh, with this. It is posturing, uh, with an election coming up this year, thats what it is. Its posturing , its positioning. It posturing, its positioning. It is not actually seeking to have any impact as it knows it cant. Any impact as it knows it cant. Okay. And im also joined in the studio by chris hope. Hed the studio by chris hope. Hed like to fire a question at you, please, if he can. And chris, hope, just to ask you a quick question, do you think Lindsay Hoyle damaged think Lindsay Hoyle has damaged his in parliament by his reputation in parliament by giving labour this get out clause by breaking with precedent and allowing a Second Amendment . Thats what is being said in the commons now. Is he trying to make sure that he can be supported by labour to be elected speaker after the next election . Possibly. Election . Possibly. I dont believe that that is necessarily the case. I mean, whenever Something Like this happens, conspiracy theories abound and everybody is looking for as i say, if for reasons. But as i say, if i were sitting there in his chair now as speaker and i had a major, uh, International Issue about which the British Parliament was debating and which was going to get a lot of coverage, even if it cant have any actual impact, it would get any actual impact, it would get a lot of coverage. And i think a lot of coverage. And i think to refuse both the government and the official opposition, uh, are saying that would be i think it would be a wrong and i would reckon it was a reasonable thing to do. And i would then expect, as lindsay is now facing the whole world, to speculate on my motives. Motives. But, but, but and hes, hes essentially changed the rules and hes like going out to play and hes like going out to play a football match. You get to half time and suddenly the referee abandons the offside rule. And thats whats happened here. Essentially. Speakers essentially. Um, the speakers changed the rules without telling the other side. Thats why the conservative and the snp are so cross about it. Im sure you must understand that. Of course i understand it, but im just saying you know, i im just trying to think what i might do in his position now, i think problem here is that think the problem here is that he didnt think of that much earlier. Mean, after all, you earlier. I mean, after all, you know, notice has been given of this motion hasnt suddenly come out of the out of the air. Uh, and he might have thought about what he going to do what he was going to do beforehand announced beforehand and then announced it with perhaps a, you know, a minute or two for consultation. But, uh , i understand why hes but, uh, i understand why hes done it. I know that that is not the position you expect me to take. And i know for the purposes of the drama of the program, its not the position you but its a you want me to take, but its a position i do take. And as if , position i do take. And as if, as if and were taken, we would want you to adopt a position forjust the adopt a position for just the theatre of it all. But an on a serious note, um, on my way in today, there is already a sizeable mob outside the house of the parliament thats expected to build a head of steam , um, up until 5 pm. And steam, um, up until 5 pm. And welcome. Seen numerous welcome. Weve seen numerous examples of two tier policing. It could get tasty out there later on. Do you think thats forcing a debate on this in this way, which will clearly be divisive . It will be painted as the snp, the labour party , the the snp, the labour party, the friends of gaza, the conservatives the Nasty Tory Party allowing israel to continue its war effort. Will this add fuel to the fire of the mob on the streets . Im pretty certain it will be fairly unruly because this is an issue which raises huge emotions. Raises huge emotions. Uh, and the police are quite right. There has been two tier policing. Um, i think, to put it bluntly , an awful lot of jews bluntly, an awful lot of jews would be afraid to be out there outside parliament tonight. And thatis outside parliament tonight. And that is not a tribute to our democracy. Okay. And william, thank you. Well, im going to go over my show finishes at 6 00. Im gonna go over and have a go straight over and have a little chat with them. Always little chat with them. I always like get involved in stuff. Like to get involved in stuff. Chris drawn chris um, and wouldnt be drawn on, on on lindsay, on the on, on on the on lindsay, on the speaker. On, on on the on lindsay, on the speaker. But, on, on on the on lindsay, on the speaker. But, it on, on on the on lindsay, on the speaker. But, it is a day of speaker. But, um, it is a day of high drama and it will end up inevitably becoming divisive at the end of these votes. It will do. And theres pressure outside. I mean , if pressure outside. I mean, if anne had long ago, i might have asked about, you know, asked her about, you know, how did issues safety . Did she find issues of safety . Lots tell me privately lots of mps tell me privately they a of , lot they are getting a lot of, lot of the issue in gaza of grief about the issue in gaza. Where go in in. Where do they go in in a sense, maybe. You know, if sense, maybe. You know, if youre being generous to, uh, labour , um, sir keir labour leader, um, sir keir starmer and Lindsay Hoyle, its given labour mps a position to take that is nearly where the government is. And try and support both israel, the labour party is trying to be much more responsible in opposing the government, unlike when Jeremy Corbyn was leader. Theyre trying support them where trying to support them where they go as they they can and go as far as they can, maybe a bit further. Can, and maybe a bit further. Sometimes think in a sense sometimes i think in a sense maybe that the reason was maybe that thats the reason was brought bear Lindsay Hoyle brought to bear on Lindsay Hoyle to support labour to try and support labour mps. Now difficult now navigate very difficult issues in parliament. Now navigate very difficult isslum, in parliament. Now navigate very difficult isslum, but in parliament. Now navigate very difficult isslum, but i in parliament. Now navigate very difficult isslum, but i mean,. Iament. Now navigate very difficult isslum, but i mean,. Iam position um, but i mean, the position ones are really, you know, tomato tomatoes, immediate ceasefire , the snp immediate ceasefire, the snp immediate humanitarian ceasefire by all sides , the labour party, the sides, the labour party, the tory and immediate humanitarian pause. Tory and immediate humanitarian pause. Ostensibly theyre pretty pause. Ostensibly theyre pretty similar positions, but with a little bit more concession towards the israeli let off. Essentially, labours been labour mps been let off a difficult night. Thats what difficult night. Thats what happened to sunak just now and been let off by a speaker who is impartial, used to be a labour mp and is now probably mistrusted the snp and mistrusted by both the snp and the. Its been a of the tories. Its been a bit of a difficult day for him the office. Yeah, and also chris, in the next. I know youre really next hour. I know youre really keen post keen to talk about the post office. Well think a keen to talk about the post offibigger. L think a keen to talk about the post offibigger deal|ink a keen to talk about the post offibigger deal for a keen to talk about the post offibigger deal for for, a keen to talk about the post offibigger deal for for, some of far bigger deal for for, some of our viewers. I think this, of course, is internationally a huge deal. But also other other issues also i think other other issues matter and earlier in Prime Ministers questions, the issue of office and the of the post office and the former there, his former chairman there, his battles Kemi Badenoch was battles with Kemi Badenoch was raised some raised and theres some interesting raised interesting notes raised in a leaked discuss a leaked memo. Well discuss a 4 00. Leaked memo. Well discuss a 4 0yeah. I think thats the yeah. And i think thats the kind the point of a lot of kind of the point of a lot of people the show. People watching the show. If only only we could donate only if only we could donate more time domestic politics, more time to domestic politics, then believe that more time to domestic politics, the|parliamentarianszlieve that more time to domestic politics, the|parliamentarians hade that more time to domestic politics, the|parliamentarians had their the parliamentarians had their backs. But look, its a dramatic day. Thank you chris. Hope well see you in next hour. Well see you in the next hour. Well have loads more on that story. Of course, throughout the show, both inside and outside parliament. As i said, a sizeable mob is building up. Well well have a man well make sure well have a man on keeping a beady on the ground keeping a beady eye on that, and theres plenty of website, of coverage on our website, gbnews. Com. And youve helped to gbnews. Com. And youve helped to make it the Fastest Growing National News website in the country. So thank you very much. Now youre and now youre watching and listening news up listening to gb news coming up very speaking very shortly. Ill be speaking with conservative mayoral with conservative london mayoral candidate susan hall about her plans for if she was plans for policing if she was elected in mays mayoral election, which is fast approaching. Shes got some common sense ideas. Well go through them after this. Im martin gb news Martin Daubney on gb news britains channel see . Britains news channel see . Thats. Listening to gb news radio. Listening to gb news radio. Welcome back. Its 323. Youre watching or listening to Martin Daubney on gb news got a cracking show ahead now. How cracking show ahead now. How effective is your local police force in particular . Their effectiveness in investigating crime, responding to the public and how quickly officers are dispatched. Well, someone who dispatched. Well, someone who has recently come up with a plan for their area is conservative london mayoral candidate susan hall. Im delighted to say. Now join me in the studio. Susan, welcome to the show. Always a pleasure. So you have a plan youre launching today of a return to Community Based policing. Tell us about that. Well , policing. Tell us about that. Well, londoners deserve to feel safe. You know that. You know that. And im starting off with knife arches in schools. Im. Im. Im. Im hoping, as you know, to be mayor after may the 2nd. And its looking very, very good. So the one thing weve got to get a grip of is policing in london. Um, so many parents have um, so, so many parents have said to me theyre concerned because their kids schools because in their kids schools there are knives. Can there are knives. I mean, can you believe it . So yeah, i know, you believe it . So yeah, i know, and weve got to do something about and weve got to do something aboweve to grips weve got to get to grips with this. Found a fund of £7 so i found a fund of £7 million that schools can bid into to actually get knife arches in their schools. On the one hand, susan, its great news that youre doing this. Other hand, its this. On the other hand, its a terrible indictment on modern london and modern britain that we even have to do this in the first place. Weve done reports on this channel. Ive done them in the past about weapons in schools terrible schools and the terrible pressures are pressures that teachers are facing. How do you get inside the mindset as well as the detection . How do you stamp knife crime out in london . Its got to be a huge issue for you in the in the mayoral race. Its a huge issue, but weve got to get to grips with it and i to ive i intend to ive got to ive already found £200 million to go into and quite frankly, into policing and quite frankly, whatever need , weve whatever the police need, weve got to that money. Got to find that money. Khan can magic up over sadiq khan can magic up over half £1 billion in the last month to order in order to buy votes. Quite frankly, there is there is money within his £21 billion budget that we can find because sadiq khan is, you know, this, he just doesnt listen to us. Weve had eight years of him not listening to us. Im listening to people and loud and clear on doorsteps. Doorsteps. Its salt crime out in london. One of the issues, susan is closing down cop shops. So the closing down cop shops. So the amount of police stations in london. Ive lived here 28 years. Ive seen two local to me shut down. You create crime hotspots because the Response Time is 45 50 minutes to the onesin time is 45 50 minutes to the ones in the middle. But weve lost 75 of police stations in london since 2010, and that includes when Boris Johnson was mayor and when sadiq khan was was mayor um, how do you turn that around, or do you do you want to reopen police stations, buy them back, get more cop shops . How whats your plan . Shops . How whats your plan . My plan is to bring back borough based policing at the moment its theyre in what they call bcus, which is a basic command unit that looks after 3 or 4 boroughs at once. Thats not good enough. Weve got to go to back to basics. Weve got to go back to common sense, borough based policing. More police based policing. More Police Officers our streets. Officers on our streets. And of course, that will mean where we can afford to we need to these stations up again to open these stations up again so they can work from an so that they can work from an area is very near to the area that is very near to the places that theyre supposed to area that is very near to the pleparadingtheyre supposed to area that is very near to the pleparading in. Yre supposed to be parading in. Not just a london and its not just a london based issue. Know, the based issue. This, you know, the selling police stations selling off of police stations is assets. Often to is public assets. Often to private Property Developers is a national disgrace. But doing this in london is going to be really expensive as i said, two near me. They were sold off for like £1 million a pop. Well theyre flats 4 or 5 theyre now flats worth 4 or 5 million. To buy those things million. So to buy those things back convert them, its back and to convert them, its going be an expensive going to be an expensive job. You cant put it is. But you cant put a price on safety. And if we look at its in sadiq khan has at it, its in sadiq khan has been charged over a thousand been in charged over a thousand murders, over a thousand. And weve got to get to grips with this. Us want our this. All of us want our families to be safe. Im sure you want your kids to be safe in school. Weve got to start school. So weve got to start off by getting knives out of off by getting the knives out of school. Got to increase, school. Weve got to increase, stop theres lots of stop and search. Theres lots of things do. Dont things we need to do. I dont know will left know how much money will be left by the time sadiq khan is finished his giveaways at finished with his giveaways at the but where there is the moment, but where there is money i will make money there, i will make sure that goes policing to make that it goes to policing to make londoners its vital, but londoners safe. Its vital, but the mayor of london is a de facto police and crime commissioner, so presumably the mayor put mayor of london could put a request Central Government request into Central Government for more money. Oh, he does that all the time. Talking about you were im talking about if you were mayor. Yes. Mayor. Oh, yes. Of course. My priority would be weve got to feel be policing. Weve got to feel safe. Khan and im glad safe. Sadiq khan and im glad you mentioned that. So many people dont that the people dont understand that the mayor london is also the mayor of london is also the police and crime commissioner, therefore charge of the therefore in charge of the metropolitan police. Sadiq khan is letting all of us down. I absolutely will not. Im listening to londoners. They want to feel safer. So where we want to feel safer. So where we can, well open up stations. We can, well open up stations. We need to have far more police on our streets. And i will support the police in looking after the rest of us. It is worth pointing out but it is worth pointing out for interest of for just the interest of balance, police balance, that the police stations in the stations were closed in the previous of boris previous mayoralty of Boris Johnson well. It has been johnson as well. It has been a long terme decline of long terme downward decline of setting off these assets and thugs arent silly now they know that they can fill crime hotspots or create crime hotspots. If there are no police stations. So Community Based policing is that small hubs of 2 or 3, or what will all this cost . We need far more of the hubs open. I we need far more of the hubs open. I need to take a look at it when im in charge, because quite frankly, at the moment we get thrown bits of pieces of finance. Its very difficult to see. Also sadiq khan as i just mentioned, has spent over £633 million in the last month with freezing fares on on the tube etc. So well have to see what money is left. But where theres a will, theres a way. Theres an awful lot of money wasted in in city hall. An awful lot of money wasted in in city hall. I will put a stop to that. And you want to get rid of ulez in its latest expansion, but you dont to rid of but you dont want to get rid of ulez it currently is. Why not . I will get rid of the ulez expansion on day one. Ive promised that and i will not bnngin promised that and i will not bring in london pay per mile, but moment im talking but at the moment im talking about talking about about particularly talking about policing, because thats what londoners are talking to me about. Okay , susan, thank you very okay, susan, thank you very much for joining okay, susan, thank you very much forjoining us. And finally, do you think youve got a chance of winning . I win i absolutely. I will win and i will put policing on our will put policing right on our streets. Okay. Sure that we hold streets. Okay. To sure that we hold streets. Okay. To that. Sure that we hold streets. Okay. To that. Thanka that we hold streets. Okay. To that. Thank yourt we hold streets. Okay. To that. Thank you fore hold you to that. Thank you for joining us in the studio. Susan hall, thank you very much for joining westminster. Joining us in westminster. Now, theres come theres loads more still to come between 4 00. I trident between now and 4 00. I trident missile misfired and crashed pathetically the ocean off pathetically into the ocean off the of florida during a the coast of florida during a test launch and embarrass blow for the royal navy. When were for the royal navy. When were the bad news end for a beleaguered military . But first, heres your latest news headunes heres your latest News Headlines with sam francis. Headlines with sam francis. Martin thank you very much. Itsjust martin thank you very much. Its just gone half past three. And we start with the top story this afternoon. The mps are their debates on are continuing their debates on are continuing their debates on a motion put forward by the snp, calling for a ceasefire in gaza. Calling for a ceasefire in gaza. If youre watching on television, you can see here scenes from inside the house of commons where those debates continue. But commons where those debates continue. But in an unprecedented move, the House Speaker chose amendments by labour and the government for those debates. It that sir those debates. It means that sir keir starmer could avoid the threat rebellion within his threat of a rebellion within his party, as mps will not be given the chance to dissent in support of snps motion. But the of the snps motion. But the clear step away from convention has ignited fury in westminster. Have a listen are. Order order have a listen are. Order order youll be going and not be voting. Thats the first one to voting. Thats the first one to leave. Then as i say, mps are continuing to debate those amendments in the commons. We will, of course, keep across that for you. Bringing live coverage on gb news throughout afternoon , the throughout this afternoon, the labour leader also pressed the Prime Minister in the commons this lunchtime during Prime Ministers questions on allegations made by the business secretary that the former post office boss lied about a row over compensation to victims of the horizon scandal. It comes the horizon scandal. It comes after Kemi Badenoch accused Henry Staunton of spreading falsehoods and she said making up astonishing series of claims. That was after he said the government had deliberately delayed compensation payments. Rishi sunak, though, insisted he is standing by his business secretary, pointing to the steps the government is taking to support victims of the scandal and as weve been hearing today, downing street has said it is still giving complete confidence to britains Nuclear Deterrent despite a missile misfiring and crashing into the ocean from the British Nuclear submarine hms vanguard. Its the second time a test has failed and the government is unable to say when the last successful test took place. Defence secretary grant place. Defence secretary grant shapps was on board when the £17 million misfire took place. The million misfire took place. The ministry of defence has said it was unusual, but theyve insisted that the deterrent is still safe, secure and effective. Those are the headlines for more. You can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen, or go to gb news. Com slash alerts. News. Com slash alerts. For stunning gold and silver coins, youll always value rosalind gold proudly sponsors the gb news financial report. The gb news financial report. And heres a look at the markets this afternoon. The pound will buy you 1. 2623 and ,1. 1672. The price of gold is £1,606, and £0. 99. Thats per ounce. And the ftse 100 is currently at 7657 points. Ross land gold proudly sponsors the gb news financial report. The gb news financial report. It. It. It. Thank you sam. Now youre watching or listening to gb news coming up , watching or listening to gb news coming up, how far will chancellor jeremy coming up, how far will chancellorjeremy hunt go in the march budget after hes been given a £9 billion borrowing boost . Surely its tax cuts or die for this to come. Thats after the break. Im Martin Daubney on gb news, britains news channel. You for listening to gb news radio. Radio. Welcome back. Its 337. Youre watching or listening to Martin Daubney on gb news, as you can see on your screens now, live shots from the house of commons. Currently the debate on the ceasefire votes is going ahead. The the ceasefire votes is going ahead. The vote expected around about 7 00 tonight, three amendments being tabled, one from the snp calling for an immediate ceasefire, one from the labour party calling for an immediate humanitarian ceasefire by all sides. And if youre by all sides. And if youre still with me, one from the tories, an immediate humanitarian pause, a non binding vote wont have much of an impact, but theyre getting very excited about it in there. Of course, well have all there. Of course, well have all the latest from that, and theres also a sizeable crowd growing parliament. Growing outside parliament. Now. Well sure we get over well make sure we get over there if anything kicks off. Now. On. Britains now. Moving on. Britains attempt to put a positive spin on their nuclear embarrassment is being described as very soviet by a former senior military officer , Philip Ingram, military officer, Philip Ingram, a retired intelligence colonel, says the mod , describing says the mod, describing a submarine missile firing as reaffirming effectiveness. This reaffirming effectiveness. This makes the uks Nuclear Deterrent a laughing stock. Hms vanguard submarine was taking part in a trident missile test when the 58 ton dummy Nuclear Weapon failed ton dummy Nuclear Weapon failed to properly launch , landing into to properly launch, landing into the ocean only a couple of yards away. Well, i can now speak with gb News Reporter chas peters. Charlie, another bad news day for our beleaguered military, the Smallest Army since napoleonic times, the smallest raf since it was formed after world war i. So few sailors were decommission ships. Compulsory Climate Change lessons for those in the navy 93 Diversity Networks and now trident. About networks and now trident. About as effective as a firework. As effective as a firework. And thats right, martin, its the second failure in a row after hms vengeance. All also launched a failing missile in 2016. On that occasion, it was a calibration and telemetry issue , calibration and telemetry issue, with the missile leaving the submarine off the coast of florida. And instead of heading southeast towards the waters off west africa, it headed over the mainland United States and had to be detonated over the land. To be detonated over the land. On this occasion, none of the three ignition stages on the trident two missile set off, and according to the sun, the missile just plopped into the sea. Not necessarily what they wanted to see on board. And of course, on board. They had the defence secretary, grant shapps and the first sea lord, admiral sir ben key, the most senior naval officer officer in the armed forces. But in reaction , armed forces. But in reaction, the mod has said today, three weeks after the event , that the weeks after the event, that the demonstration and shakedown operation this test had shown that the crew , hms vanguard had that the crew, hms vanguard had proven themselves as fully capable. And thats why we got that reaction from Philip Ingram today that retired senior military Intelligence Officer saying that this was a sort of soviet reaction because after two failed tests and a lack of information, some three weeks after this most recent failure, many are asking for the mod to clarify what caused this failure. Was it an issue with the missile . Did that first ignition not go off for a technical fault . Or is it, as former admiral chris parry is claiming today, due to a calibration and actually one of the areas in the testing system itself . He is suggesting , itself . He is suggesting, presumably with Insider Information from naval sources, that it could be an issue with the testing procedure itself, either way, its taken this scoop from the sun for the pubuc scoop from the sun for the public to be aware that the continuous at sea deterrence has failed again, to test successfully back in october. We do know that a us ohio class submarine , the equivalent of the submarine, the equivalent of the vanguard class in the royal navy, did have a successful test. They use the same trident missiles as the royal navy. We missiles as the royal navy. We share those supply ties from a base in georgia , but with two base in georgia, but with two failures in a row. This is looking precarious for the continuous at sea deterrence. But grant shapps and the mod says its business as normal, and he has full confidence in those Nuclear Submarines. Those Nuclear Submarines. Okay, julie peters, thank you for the latest hms vanguard. Theyre looking every inch the damp squib , which just about damp squib, which just about sums up, i think , where we are, sums up, i think, where we are, charlie. We seem to cover this every day on news now. There every day on gb news now. There seems be something going seems to be something going wrong with recruitment, with procurement, out procurement, with deploying out with the forces themselves , with with the forces themselves, with conscription on the cards , with conscription on the cards, with an obsession with diversity , an obsession with diversity, with pronouns, with networks for gender issues and Climate Change. Charlie peters, a reservist such as yourself, must be scratching your heads in frustration constantly about this. Charlie peters, thank you very much for joining this. Charlie peters, thank you very much forjoining us on the very much for joining us on the show again, expert analysis. No less than id expect from you. Less than id expect from you. Now, the gb news a new series called innovation britain. Were called innovation britain. Were looking at the successes of the fantastic british Manufacturing Industry around the country. Today. Were in the heart of shropshire at ezedi technology. Shropshire at ezedi technology. Im actually with the ceo of the company , chris guido. Chris, i company, chris guido. Chris, i know youve got a lot of successful uk manufacturing use coming out of this building. Absolutely. We are continuing absolutely. We are continuing to invest. Got big to invest. Weve got big investment year. Investment plans this year. Weve got 100 ton, 200 ton progression press and a thousand ton progression press coming onune ton progression press coming online this were looking online this year. Were looking at reshoring. So were getting at reshoring. So were getting more inquiries. At reshoring. So were getting more inquiries. And more and more inquiries. And its good news. So lets talk about that yes. So lets talk about that because do a lot of because i know you do a lot of exporting as well dont you. Maybe not directly export, but your onto your parts get bolted onto aeroplanes militaryvehicles aeroplanes to military vehicles to to, automotive vehicles and obviously get exported all around the world. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. And also export directly and we also export directly to america germany. So we to america and germany. So we are seeing more and more inquiries coming now for uk manufacturers and certainly uk manufacturers and certainly uk manufacturers making for the uk market. But also exporting. So its great for news the uk economy. Yeah. When you look at uk manufacturing its highly respected around the world. So why shouldnt we export . Manufactures absolutely. Uk manufactures product is quality product by Quality Companies and we should be exporting around the world. We should be looked to for supplying that quality product. Okay and skills gap. I know youve got some quite, quite exciting ways of, you know, bridging that skill gap here should. Absolutely. So we dont just train own. Also a train our own. Weve also got a Training Centre here we Training Centre here where we Training Centre here where we train companies. So train for other companies. So were very much looking at bringing apprenticeships bringing on apprenticeships. Were training our were looking at training our own. So upskilling then own. So upskilling and then bringing on apprenticeships to fill gaps lower down. But fill the gaps lower down. But theres exciting times here. Most staff are being with most of our staff are being with us long time. Been here us a long time. Ive been here for 29 years and were for nearly 29 years and were looking the future for uk looking to the future for uk manufacturers. Youre listening to gb news radio. Radio. Welcome back. Its 347. Youre watching or listening to Martin Daubney on gb news is now chancellor jeremy Martin Daubney on gb news is now chancellorjeremy hunt has been chancellor jeremy hunt has been handed a £92 billion borrowing boost as he seeks potential re election giveaways for his budget next month. This comes as budget next month. This comes as the public purse was boosted by a record surplus in january, with the ons recording £16. 7 billion. Increase is a record high in more than 30 years. Is what that represents. Its. Im now joined by the magnificently named darwin friend, head of research at the Taxpayers Alliance , to go through darwin. Alliance, to go through darwin. Welcome to the studio. Can you explain to me he hasnt found a massive bag of cash, has he . Its the government hasnt borrowed quite as much as it thought it had. Therefore it has spare money that it can dish out as tax cuts. Is that right . Yeah. Well, first of all, martin, thanks very much for having me on the show this afternoon. And youre right. Its youre absolutely right. Its not, like hes youre absolutely right. Its not, a like hes youre absolutely right. Its not, a of like hes youre absolutely right. Its not, a of cashe hes youre absolutely right. Its not, a of cash at|es youre absolutely right. Its not, a of cash at the back found a bag of cash at the back of the sofa. Whats happened is tax revenues have been higher than forecast and spending has been forecasted. Been lower than they forecasted. I to say i mean, its important to say borrowing just under borrowing was still just under 100 than just 100 billion rather than just over 100 billion that they over the 100 billion that they predicted. And were predicted. And so what were actually seeing is, as you say, he hasnt got a whole bag, new bag cash. What hes got bag full of cash. What hes got is less, what is hes borrowed less, but what he with that he should be doing with that money, as had money, seeing as they had forecasted is he should forecasted it in, is he should be using that for a tax cut because hes got £9 billion under the amount they were forecasting thats forecasting to spend. Thats more enough a cut in more than enough for a cut in income tax. Now. Simple terms this now. So in simple terms this is saying my credit is a bit like saying my credit card quite maxed card limit isnt quite maxed out. So can spend a bit more out. So i can spend a bit more £9 billion more. What kind of tax cuts do you think that should be going towards dawn . Because surely now, as we approach the general election , approach the general election, its tax cuts or die for the tories. No, absolutely. And i mean, i work for the Taxpayers Alliance. So of course im to be calling tax im going to be calling for tax cuts. Right now. And thats because hard pressed brits cuts. Right now. And thats becauneedd pressed brits cuts. Right now. And thats becauneedd pres youryrits cuts. Right now. And thats becauneedd pres your listeners really need them. Your listeners and across the country and taxpayers across the country are suffering with are still really suffering with the of living now. The cost of living right now. And that £9 billion, as and with that £9 billion, as i say, thats more than enough to take a penny off income tax, for example, something example, which is something that i or it i would really support. Or it could go some way to starting to unfreeze those thresholds unfreeze those tax thresholds which dragging potentially which are dragging potentially 2. 5 Million People. This year since the freeze was enacted into income tax. And so i think into income tax. And so i think what he needs to be doing is really taking a cut into income tax, into mind as he approaches the in a couple weeks the budget in a couple of weeks time. Thats the dreaded fiscal the budget in a couple of weeks time. So thats the dreaded fiscal the budget in a couple of weeks time. So asts the dreaded fiscal the budget in a couple of weeks time. So as wages dreaded fiscal the budget in a couple of weeks time. So as wages dre uped fiscal the budget in a couple of weeks time. So as wages dre up and;cal drag. So as wages go up and inflation goes up. The tax inflation goes up. But the tax thresholds you just thresholds dont, you just naturally find yourself into a higher than you higher tax band than you previously means previously were, which means you pay previously were, which means you pay which pay more tax, which might explain why jeremy hunt has got so wonga. So much wonga. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Mean, alongside the i mean, alongside the 9 billion in borrowing that he didnt do todays figures actually showed a £167 didnt do todays figures actually showed a £16. 7 billion surplus that the treasury has as a result of the latest statistics. And thats because statistics. And thats because tax revenues have come in from people that are self employed. Self assess taxes have come in which means theyve got a big bag money that they dont bag of money that they dont normally have throughout bag of money that they dont norrof. Ly have throughout bag of money that they dont norrof the ave throughout bag of money that they dont norrof the year. 1roughout bag of money that they dont norrof the year. Butghout bag of money that they dont norrof the year. But what i rest of the year. But what i would be saying ultimately to the now tax the chancellor right now is tax policy done policy should never be done based map based on the electoral map thats coming up. But did thats coming up. But we did some research taxpayers some research at the Taxpayers Alliance that showed that governments that increase the tax elections end tax burden before elections end up, on average, losing those elections and those that cut them actually go on to win those elections. So i really think he should into a mind elections. So i really think he shoulthe into a mind elections. So i really think he shoulthe budgetinto a mind elections. So i really think he shoulthe budget comesnind elections. So i really think he shoulthe budget comes up. when the budget comes up. Do you think a penny in the pound will be enough . A sexy enough election . Enough to win an election . It doesnt on fire. Doesnt set the soul on fire. One it . One p does it . Well, i think weve got an Income Tax Campaign the Income Tax Campaign at the taxpayers were Taxpayers Alliance, and were saying p, just like saying lets go to p, just like the last Labour Government did before lets do before that election. Lets do £0. 02 cut. So before that election. Lets do £0. Cthen cut. So before that election. Lets do £0. Cthen people cut. So before that election. Lets do £0. Cthen people really so before that election. Lets do £0. Cthen people really feel so that then people really feel that then people really feel that money in their that extra money in their pocket. That really pocket. And that will really help the everyday help them with the everyday staples. Theyre not going out and expensive and spending it on expensive things. To spend things. Theyre trying to spend it weekly shop, their it on their weekly shop, their energy bills, their mortgages, which recently. Which have all gone up recently. And money and they really need that money right help them out. Right now to help them out. Yeah. Yeah. Bang on. You very much. Bang on. Thank you very much. Darwin i a of darwin friend. I think a lot of people be saying people out there will be saying hurrah at long we need hurrah at long last we need some cost of some relief from the cost of living you very living crisis. Thank you very much, friend the much, darwin friend from the taxpayers superb now Taxpayers Alliance. Superb now juuan Taxpayers Alliance. Superb now Julian Assange is making his final bid for a domestic appeal against the judges ruling over his extradition to the United States. During the first day of states. During the first day of the hearing , states. During the first day of the hearing, marc summers, states. During the first day of the hearing , marc summers, kc, the hearing, marc summers, kc, argued us prosecution of the wikileaks founder assange would be retribution for his political opinions, which would make his extradition illegal under uk law. Well lawyers for the United States claim assange allegedly put lives at risk by publishing unredacted classified documents, according to the high court. We can now cross the royal courts of justice and join our gb News National reporter Theo Chikomba theo. Sizeable crowd of supporters there behind you. Whats the latest . It might feel whats the latest . It might feel like a very long time. Weve been hearing about juuan weve been hearing about Julian Assange. Hes been having legal battles for over a decade now, and for the last couple of years hes been staying at belmarsh prison, the high a high, high security prison in south east london. But as of yesterday, it was the first of two days. Today is the first of two days. Today is the last day of the hearing , the last day of the hearing, essentially, to try and get permission to take his appeal further , either here at the high court. Now, his lawyers have been here, as well as those representing the us. And the last two days, and they are still continue this afternoon. Still continue this afternoon. Now, of course, Julian Assange, he is the founder of wikileaks, which started in 2006, essentially a platform for people to come forward with classified information without much editorial comment from him and his colleagues. But it rose to prominence in 2010 when they released the video of a us. Military helicopter which showed civilians being killed in iraq. They also went on to release more than 90,000 classified u. S. More than 90,000 classified us. Military documents on the war in afghanistan, and around 400,000 did secure us files on the war in iraq from whistleblowers such as Chelsea Manning and edward snowden. Now, here weve been seeing hundreds of supporters in the last day or two. And i asked them if they are hopeful of a positive outcome and what this means in a wider context for those who work in publishing. Publishing. Hope that he gets a chance to have an appeal, because this could hearing is only i mean, there is not. I hope for him to become free immediately. Um i mean, hes only in prison because of his publications of torture and war crimes. Yeah, its really, really important. Important. Its probably one of the most important decisions about free speech, a court thats going to even speech, a court thats going to ever, ever make. Definitely the, the, the case of the century , the, the case of the century, the, the case of the century, the Julian Assange. Love him to release. Love him to release. But i dont think it will happen. But, um, its basically the most important thing. Most important thing. Okay. Thank you very much. Okay. Thank you very much. That was Theo Chikomba from the juuan that was Theo Chikomba from the Julian Assange trial at the royal courts of justice. Thanks for joining us on the show, theo. Speak for joining us on the show, theo. Speak to you in the next hour. Now were staying with our top story, which, of course is the gaza vote. And Gaza Ceasefire vote. And we can now cross to outside the now cross live to outside the house of the parliament where protest is, you can see. And protest is, as you can see. And here or gathering outside as mps debate that Gaza Ceasefire inside that vote is due to be 7 00. This was meant to start at 5 00. Its now approaching 4 00. As you can see, a sizeable mob already approaching there. Um, that could well get tasty later on. Well make sure we keep a close eye on that. And the mob close eye on that. And the mob outside will be expecting the votes to go their way inside. And what will happen if it doesnt . Its getting very doesnt . Its getting very lively as you can see, they were there about 200 as i came in. Now that looks more like several hundreds vocal growing crowd will have plenty of that. Of course , in our next hour, as course, in our next hour, as well as whats going on inside the debate, running all the way through until the vote at 7 00. Im Martin Daubney on gb news. Britains news channel a brighter outlook with boxt solar , sponsors of weather on gb news. Afternoon im alex deakin this is your latest weather update from the met office for gb news. Further lively weather to come tonight and tomorrow. Some come tonight and tomorrow. Some further heavy rain and in places some very gusty winds, warm weather system brought plenty of rain through today and another smaller but more lively feature arriving through tonight and tomorrow, bringing some showery rain into Northern Ireland and western scotland. Todays rain clearing away from the east for a good part of the night. Most of england and wales will be dry with might with some clear spells. 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Spells of intense rain, and particularly in the southeast, accompanied potentially by some gusty potentially by some very gusty winds , the wind suddenly winds, the wind suddenly whipping up , winds, the wind suddenly whipping up, potentially causing some and disruption as some damage and disruption as they do so. So a couple of met Office Warnings in place for much of the northern half of the country. A day sunshine country. Its a day of sunshine with showers in the west blown in brisk and gusty wind. In on a brisk and gusty wind. A colder feeling day, although temperatures tomorrow just close to average. But because its been so mild , youll notice the been so mild, youll notice the difference. Is again difference. Friday is again a day of sunshine and showers for most. Most of the showers in the west. Again, some heavy ones and a cooler feel that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers. Inside from boxt boilers. Sponsors of weather on gb news. Good afternoon. Its 4 pm. Good afternoon. Its 4 pm. And welcome to the Martin Daubney show on gb news broadcasting live from the heart of westminster. All across the uk. Coming up in todays show, as you see there live pictures from the house of commons. Labours Andrew Gwynne just sat down a dramatic twist in the commons ahead of a vote on the Gaza Ceasefire. The speaker has Gaza Ceasefire. The speaker has controversially selected amendments on the snps ceasefire motion, and there was fury earlier on in the house over the move. But will this change tonights vote, expected around 7 00. Well have all the built towards that from inside and also outside the houses of parliament, where a sizeable mob is building up. Also, this hour, trident tested and failed more and more disasters for our beleaguered military , this time beleaguered military, this time with our Nuclear Weapons. A with our Nuclear Weapons. A recent missile test misfire fired and crashed pathetically into the ocean off the coast of florida. But not to worry, lads, elisa. Royal navy could be elisa. Royal navy could be taking Climate Change courses, to put it all right. Next. Whats the real cost of net zero . Is our economy really worth the risk of increasing our Green Infrastructure . Ill be taking a closer look later in the show and get this they dont know how much its going to cost. Thats all coming up in your next hour. Thank you for your next hour. Thank you for joining me on the show this afternoon. Its always a pleasure to have your company get in touch with your opinions today. Get in touch with your opinions today. Vaiews gbnews. Com. A lot today. Vaiews gbnews. Com. A lot have been in touch already about this debate on gaza in parliament. Most of you saying, why are they wasting time on gaza when they should be caring about glasgow and gateshead . Gillingham and gloucester, anywhere else in the country . Whats the big obsession . Let us whats the big obsession . Let us know what you think about that. Well have the latest on well have all the latest on that up to the vote at that build up to the vote at 7 00. As said, both and 7 00. As i said, both inside and outside large crowd has outside a large crowd has gathered. Its getting very, gathered. Its getting very, very lively out there. But before all that, its time for your latest News Headlines with Polly Middlehurst. Martin thank Polly Middlehurst. Martin thank you and good afternoon to you. Well, lets bring you up to date, shall we . On events in the house of commons this afternoon. Lets show you live pictures coming from the chamber coming to us from the chamber where mps debating motion where mps are debating a motion put the scottish put forward by the Scottish National party, which is calling for a ceasefire in middle for a ceasefire in the middle east hamas and israel east between hamas and israel ahead of that critical vote this evening at 7 00. Order. Order evening at 7 00. Order. Order order order youll be going and not be voting. Well, thats the first voting. Well, thats the first one to leave. Then what are you listening to there is sir Lindsay Hoyle, the Commons Speaker, in an unprecedented move in the house of commons, breaking with convention, uh, choosing ing certain amendments concerning the ceasefire in gaza by labour and the government for debate. He says to get a fuller debate ahead of that vote this evening. And it means sir keir starmer could avoid the threat of a rebellion within his party, as mps will not be given the chance to dissent in support of the snps motion. But the speakers clear step away from convention did ignite a little bit of anger in the commons. Actually, a number of labour hardliners would have voted with the snp. Um, i noticed that the snp. Um, i noticed that Jeremy Corbyns name was actually on the snp amendment, not that hes currently a labour member. So i think that will probably mean that labour are backing their comfort zone. Of course, none of this really matters in terms of whats happening on the ground in gaza. Its bit of sort of its all a little bit of sort of political scoring. And, its all a little bit of sort of poli know, scoring. And, its all a little bit of sort of poli know, the scoring. And, its all a little bit of sort of poli know, the primeg. And, its all a little bit of sort of poli know, the Prime Minister has you know, the Prime Minister has an amendment down which ill be voting for, which i think re establishes our support for the state of israel and its right to self protect , even the right to self protect, even the voice of tory mp sir Robert Goodwill, who was telling gb news todays dramatic developments unlikely to have any impact , as you heard on any impact, as you heard on whats happening in gaza , that whats happening in gaza, that not going down well with protesters outside the house of commons. You can see if youre watching on television these live pictures coming to us from westminster, pro Palestine Protesters gathering as the debate inside the commons continues. They, of course, are continues. They, of course, are calling for an immediate ceasefire in gaza. Well bring you more developments from todays debate as they happen on gb news for both from outside the house of commons and indeed inside, particularly from 7 00, when that vote happens , as now when that vote happens, as now also in the commons today, the labour leader pressed the Prime Minister on allegations made by the business secretary over the last couple of days that the former office lied former post office boss lied about row over compensation to about a row over compensation to victims. The deepening row victims. The deepening row dominated todays Prime Ministers questions after Kemi Badenoch accused Henry Staunton of spreading falsehoods and making up an astonishing series of claims. That was after, he of claims. That was after, he said , the government had said, the government had deliberately delayed compensation payments. Miss badenoch said mr stauntons claims were simply a blatant attempt to seek revenge after hed been sacked. Well, sir keir hed been sacked. Well, sir keir starmer asked rishi sunak if he backed his business secretarys claims. Claims. I appreciate that the business secretary has put the Prime Minister in a tricky position, but but will he commit to investigating this matter properly, including whether that categorical statement was correct and why, rather than taking those accusations seriously, she accused a whistleblower of lying sir keir starmer. Well, rishi sunak insists hes standing by his business secretary and kept the focus on what he called the unprecedented steps the government is taking to support the victims of the post Office Scandal. Post Office Scandal. People who were working hard , people who were working hard, serving their communities had their lives and reputations destroyed , and thats why we are destroyed, and thats why we are working hard to ensure that they get justice and compensation. And that is why we established sir wyn williams inquiry. It is why we have already paid out over £150 million of compensation to almost 3000 victims, and its why we will introduce new legislation shortly to exonerate those. We shortly to exonerate those. We will make sure that we do what is needed, that the truth does come to light. We right the wrongs of the past and, crucially, that victims get the justice that they deserve. Justice that they deserve. Lets just bring you some breaking news. Were receiving from Leicestershire Police. Its from Leicestershire Police. Its my duty to bring you the very sad news that they have, in fact, the missing two year fact, named the missing two year old boy who into the river old boy who fell into the river soar sunday. Hes been named soar on sunday. Hes been named as xle maher depher in a Statement Released today, the toddlers family described him as a cheeky , funny boy who was as a cheeky, funny boy who was a bundle of joy. They also thanked members of the local community for their ongoing support for the parents and the family. Specialist Police Divers are continuing their search today in the aylestone meadows area of leicester. Despite difficult conditions caused by heavy rainfall. That little boy, just named by Leicestershire Police today. Named by Leicestershire Police today. Now, in other news, today. Now, in other news, downing street says it still has complete confidence in britains Trident Nuclear programme despite a missile misfiring and then crashing into the ocean from the Nuclear Submarine hms vanguard. Its the second time vanguard. Its the second time a test has failed and the government is unable to say when the last successful test took place. The defence secretary , place. The defence secretary, grant shapps, was on board when the £17 million misfire took place. The ministry of defence place. The ministry of defence says its unusual able, but insists trident is still safe, secure and effective. Protesters secure and effective. Protesters are once again gathering outside the royal courts of justice today, as the wikileaks founder, juuan today, as the wikileaks founder, Julian Assange, makes his final appeal against extradition to the United States, the National Union of journalists is holding a free Julian Assange demonstration. Its over an demonstration. Its over an alleged conspiracy to publish leaked documents relating to the afghanistan and iraq wars. The afghanistan and iraq wars. The long running case could be his final chance to avoid spending the rest of his life in an american prison. Thats the american prison. Thats the news. For more background , do news. For more background, do sign up for gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen , or go to gb news. Com screen, or go to gb news. Com slash alerts. Thank you. Slash alerts. Thank you. Poorly. Now were continuing with our coverage of that decision from the speaker of the commons accept amendments to commons to accept amendments to the motion on the gaza the snp motion on the Gaza Ceasefire and hundreds of protesters have gathered outside parliament ahead of that common vote later on, believed to be about 7 pm. You can see them there now as sizeable crowd crowds can be seen. Now hes praying. Now. Finally, the moment gaza i and you can hear them now. And you can hear them now. Crowds were seen waving flags as part of the Palestine Solidarity Campaign and shouting vociferously. Probably so loud vociferously. Probably so loud you can hear them inside the chamber that vote. 7 pm. A few hours away. Now and labour mps now have the chance to rally behind their partys new stance, pushing for that immediate ceasefire. Um, after their ceasefire. Um, after their amendment was chosen and a reminder of that development earlier on, sir Lindsay Hoyle selected amendments to tabled by labour and the government to the snps Gaza Ceasefire motion. But mr speaker has since been accused of moving the goalposts as he faced cries of bring back bercow. A lot of people listening in from the brexit years will probably scratch their heads and think, wow , is their heads and think, wow, is it as bad as that . Well, lets discuss now our gb discuss that now with our gb news Political Editor christopher who me christopher hope, who joins me in the studio. Chris, a few hours away from this vote. Now so largely performative, it wont be binding or have any teeth, but nevertheless, a huge hoo ha around this. The bias or hoo ha around this. The bias or not, of sir Lindsay Hoyle, the Commons Speaker. Can you explain to viewers why its all kicking off . Yeah, the speaker of the house of commons is like a referee in a football match. So he ensures that the rules are followed. In this case, they call Standing Orders , uh, call Standing Orders, uh, conventionally, when and then dunng conventionally, when and then during a debate, a debate every year you have the snp and labour can take over the floor of the commons and debate issues they care about. The snp get about four of these days a year, call opposition day debates, labour gets about 18 or so and they they are debating whether to have an immediate ceasefire and condemn the punishment of palestinians. Thats the snp motion. The government can normally amend that if they want to. And that would have presented with presented labour mps with a problem. Support snp presented labour mps with a problor1. Support snp presented labour mps with a prob|or go support snp presented labour mps with a prob|or go with support snp presented labour mps with a prob|or go with the jpport snp presented labour mps with a prob|or go with the governments vote or go with the governments one . And that might forced one . And that might have forced some labour frontbenchers to resign november. Resign as happened in november. Instead, lindsay instead, the speaker, Lindsay Hoyle, given them a out hoyle, has given them a get out clause allowed a second clause and allowed a Second Amendment this motion by the amendment of this motion by the snp. That hasnt happened before. Breaks precedent before. It breaks this precedent. Tom goldsmith, the clerk of the house of commons, has said it breaks with the previous. Whats before goes whats happened before goes against rules, essentially, against the rules, essentially, of house of commons, and of the house of commons, and thats allowed some tory mps to claim like john claim hes acting like john bercow, mps would at bercow, who mps would said at the time. Tory claimed the time. Tory mps claimed was being biased on the brexit being a bit biased on the Brexit Debate and theyre seeing elements of that today and they think that Lindsay Hoyle has given labour a get clause given labour a get out clause and will that whether theres a deal being done there , some mps deal being done there, some mps saying dark tones that it saying in dark tones that it allows the labour mps, if they win a majority in the commons off the election to support him as next time around. So as speaker next time around. So lots of blood in the house lots of bad blood in the house of commons. Chris, stick around and okay, chris, stick around and lets to more reaction lets go now to more reaction to the great the conservative mp for Great Grimsby abbey nikki leah, grimsby abbey lee. Nikki leah, welcome to the show. So the allegations there have bring back bercow Lindsay Hoyle showing bias chris hope just said sir keir storm have been given a get out of jail card. Whats your take on this lee. Well a speaker showing bias who knew. And you know we you know weve seen this happen before with bercow. Im not sure its quite as bad as wanting to bring back bercow because he was particularly, um , um, i dont particularly, um, um, i dont know whether a polite word to say about him, but we dont want him back. Um, certainly this does break with precedent. We know it does. Its i think its very interesting, it, that interesting, isnt it, that that, um, the labour party that want to see itself , um, that, um, the labour party that want to see itself, um, as a new government in the next few months or around a year that they are so nervous about their own Party Members and frontbench chairs that they have had to put, um, linda hoyle, sir Lindsay Hoyle back arm up against his back, perhaps to say that you need to allow this to happen so that we dont have an embarrassing, um, break with the whip. And i think its sad for democracy because snp being a smaller, uh, opposition dont have as many opposition days. I think it shows, um, that that labour are very, very worried about this because the ordinary British Public actually want us to be fair about this. And not only, um, think about palestinians , but actually make palestinians, but actually make sure that people remember that this was a terrorist attack by hamas on israel, on a state that has the right to defend itself. And you know, if people are thinking about wanting to vote for labour in the future , then for labour in the future, then they need to think about actually what a Labour Government would actually mean on issues like this. On issues like this. Yeah. And leah, in fact , we yeah. And leah, in fact, we talked to colonel richard kemp. Surely he says that the people who would most like a ceasefire would be hamas. A lot of people getting in touch with us today, leah , on the point of why are leah, on the point of why are Parliament Giving so much time to issues in gaza . Lets to issues in gaza . Lets alliterate Great Grimsby be glasgow, gateshead , gillingham, glasgow, gateshead, gillingham, gloucester, lots of places across britain for feeling that parliament seems to spend a lot of bandwidth on gaza and palestine, particularly the labour party and the snp. Whats your take on that . Absolutely. You know, my in tray. Um, i could count on one hand the amount of people that have wanted to, um, let me know about their views on, on gaza and, and, and palestine and hamas and those situations they actually care about what were doing in the uk. Of course, parliament the uk. Of course, parliament has to debate International Issues. But frankly, you know, issues. But frankly, you know, our influence over what another country does, what another sovereign country does to defend itself, um , is really, um, not itself, um, is really, um, not not not for, for our , um, our not not for, for our, um, our debate or business really. And if, if we looked at, um, you know, goodness forbid if something similar happened in the uk and we scaled that up to our kind of our kind of population in numbers and 10,000 people were attacked by terrorists in this country, wouldnt we expect our sovereign government to go back and actually retaliate . So we need actually retaliate . So we need to remember that as well. And to remember that as well. And weve got more pressing issues at home. People want to see their areas levelled up. They want to make sure that weve got good quality jobs and careers available for people that were looking after. People with regard to the cost of living, all of those things are actually are really important to people. And today, although its a bit of political posturing and interestingly nervous ness on labours part as to perhaps showing the public where their true colours really do lie. If true colours really do lie. If there were a potential government that we need to be getting on with the business of what the people who voted for us are asking us to do, rather than all this political posturing that, as youve said, makes absolutely no , no difference absolutely no, no difference whatsoever. Whatsoever. Okay. Um, im also joined in the studio, leah, by our Political Editor, chris hope. He has a question for you. Leah. Hi, chris. Hope. I hope you can take this question very quickly. Um, have heard quickly. Um, have you heard about that , about these suggestions that, uh, labour figures were saying that labour almost bring that labour would almost bring down, um, speaker hoyle . Um, unless he called labours amendment thats been denied by laboun amendment thats been denied by labour. But the message, according to one reporter for the bbc, says you need our votes to be elected as speaker after the election and that may not happen unless you allow this labour amendment. Is that right . Have heard that . Have you heard that . Havent heard that. Well, i havent heard that. But, you know, actions speak louder than words. And speaker is supposed to be impartial. Marshall, as you said earlier , marshall, as you said earlier, um, they are effectively the referee in the football match, isnt it . Interest thing that a labour speaker has actually clearly listened to influence or discussions or persuasions and has broken with parliamentary precedent that tells you all that we need to know. A former labour mp, of course, no longer a labour mp, but and he would deny those claims. Im sure. But thats the concern. Concern. It is a concern. Its a concern for democracy. Its a concern for democracy. Its a concern to see what what is happening , you know, in in the happening, you know, in in the background and um, and we need to make sure that parliament is relevant to the people who voted is in. And, you know what this whole orchestration of people coming and protesting, um, about what . About gaza . And, you know, what . About gaza . And, you know, are we seeing any pro israeli , are we seeing any pro israeli, um, uh, protests out there . Um, uh, protests out there . Well, no, were not, because actually , uh, the jewish actually, uh, the Jewish Community feel under threat and would not feel safe coming out at the moment and doing that. And thats a terrible, terrible indictment of what is going on and the kind of pressure that has been put on people. Um, we are an open, uh, friendly , are an open, uh, friendly, tolerant nation and, and this, this nonsense that we are seeing with aggression and anti israel aggression needs to stop and people in places like my constituency do not want to see that happen. That happen. Okay. Thank you very much for joining us. Conservative mp for Great Grimsby, leah nietzsche. If your forthright views, thank you very much for joining us. And now looking ahead to tonights vote on a Gaza Ceasefire. It looks likely that mps will vote for a ceasefire with certain conditions after the speaker of the commons accepts both labour and the conservative partys amendments to that snp motion. But could such a move from the uk signal good news for hamas and undermine israels efforts in the middle east . Well, joining me now to say precisely that is former British Army Commander colonel richard kemp. Colonel colonel richard kemp. Colonel kemp, thank you very much for joining us on the show. Its always a pleasure to have your company. Kemp, wrote company. Colonel kemp, you wrote in the telegraph today saying the west handing victory to the west is handing victory to hamas. Would you care to explain hamas. Would you care to explain to our viewers what you meant by that . That . Well, i think this sort of thing going on in the house of commons, which of course, is pointless terms of any real pointless in terms of any real effect, it will have. Effect, it will have. Certainly israel is not going to initiate an immediate ceasefire. Uh, on the basis of a vote in the house of commons and hamas , of course, certainly hamas, of course, certainly werent taking notice from that point of view. What it does , point of view. What it does, though, encourage hamas. Though, is to encourage hamas. Hamas want to see this sort of movement around the world. They want to see anti israel motions. And effectively, this is an anti israel motion. If parliament was calling on hamas to ceasefire, to lay down its weapons to end the bloodshed and to hand back the hostages, then that would be something else. But but this sort of thing is purely encouraging. Hamas and the article i wrote that you mentioned about, um, mentioned was more about, um, the us administrations , uh, the us administrations, uh, drafting of a Un Security Council resolution. Also calling for a ceasefire, although not an immediate ceasefire. Um and calling on israel not to complete the destruction of hamas in rafah , uh, while at the hamas in rafah, uh, while at the same time telling, uh, the world that that, uh , the civilians in that that, uh, the civilians in rafah should not be allowed to leave rafah. So its really a, an impossible situation that theyre trying to put israel in and all of this stuff. I think the vote in the commons, the Un Security Council draft resolution, its all designed so simply to appease and to pander to, um, the, the anti israel pro hamas electorate back in their countries , in the us and their countries, in the us and their countries, in the us and the uk and other countries. And the uk and other countries. And its very dangerous because, as i say, it does encourage hamas. Uh, and it will, if anything, encourage hamas to hold on, to fight on and it will also endanger the Jewish Community in the uk. These demonstrations, the uk. These demonstrations, these protests, you see outside these protests, you see outside the house of commons, theyre designed thing, and that designed for one thing, and that is bully and intimidate the is to bully and intimidate the Jewish Community in uk. Jewish community in the uk. And colonel kemp, you talk about about, um, defeatist policies being adopted by the west, drawing upon mistakes, historical mistakes. And you talk about the weeping sores of iraq and afghanistan not getting the job done now, not finishing off hamas, of course, would surely allow them to simply regroup and repose a fresh threat in the future. Colonel kemp , of course, you know, weve kemp, of course, you know, weve seen this time and again in israel. Israel. Weve weve seen hamas attacking israeli civilians with rockets. Weve seen israel occasionally going into gaza carrying out other forms of attack from the air. Um, and ultimately it does damage hamas. Ultimately it does damage hamas. All of these operations do damage to hamas, but hamas then lick their wounds and supported by funded by iran, qatar , by iran, funded by iran, qatar, and in many cases by our own taxes via uh, aid that finds its way to hamas , uh, and pose way to hamas, uh, and pose a threat again , with the ultimate threat again, with the ultimate threat again, with the ultimate threat being the 7th of october. And hamas leaders have said , uh, and hamas leaders have said, uh, as part of their Genocidal Campaign against israel, theyve said they will do the same again and again and again if they get the chance. So they must be stopped. They have to be crushed. Theyre not crushed crushed. If theyre not crushed now the will raise now, then the threat will raise its head yet again. Its head yet again. Colonel Kevin Christopher here with martin in the studio. Here with martin in the studio. Um, do you think it makes any difference what parliament decides . We know what the uk governments position is. That governments position is. That wont change from this debate in the commons. Is it have any beanng . The commons. Is it have any bearing . Israel watching or bearing . Is israel watching or is hamas watching . What happens in the house of commons today . In the house of commons today . Israel is watching. Absolutely israel regards britain as being a very close and very supportive ally in this, and will be concerned about this display of lets say, pubuc about this display of lets say, public sentiment rather than government sentiment. Um albeit that the, the call for a ceasefire, in my view, represent only a minority opinion in in the uk, whatever the outcome of the uk, whatever the outcome of the vote is. But hamas are watching, i think much more closely. And as i mentioned, closely. And as i mentioned, this will encourage hamas. Hamas is on its last legs. Hamas is had at least a half, probably more than half of its fighting capability destroyed so far in this war. Uh, and what remains is essentially its been largely taken apart and is fighting in small groups, not a coherent entity. The reports that the hamas leaders in gaza are unable to communicate, and theyre focusing more on their own survival rather than directing, uh, the war against israel. But this does encourage that. It does give them hope. And it will probably, you know, this sort of movement here and in other countries, actually encourages hamas to fight on and leads to more and greater bloodshed than otherwise might occur. Okay colonel richard kemp, thank you very much for joining us. The is handing victor to the west is handing victor to hamas. He says in that column. Thank you for joining hamas. He says in that column. Thank you forjoining us on the thank you for joining us on the show. And theres plenty more to come story in just come on that story in just a moment. Dont go anywhere. Im martin gb news, Martin Daubney on gb news, britains channel listening to gb news radio show. Welcome back. Its 427. Youre watching or listening to Martin Daubney on gb news is now the ministry of defence has said that their trident Missile Launch failure would not happen in a wartime situation. The failure has raised questions and eyebrows about the effectiveness of the uks Nuclear Capabilities in the face of both increased tension in the middle east and, of course, tensions in eastern europe. Well, joining me now is the former navy officer , doctor the former navy officer, doctor steve aiken. Steve, welcome to steve aiken. Steve, welcome to the show. Weve got the Smallest Army since the napoleonic times. We have so few sailors. Were decommissioning ships yet we send them on Climate Change courses. And now we have a Nuclear Deterrent. Looks about as effective as a firework. What on earth is going on with our armed forces . It seems like an international laughing stock. International laughing stock. Well first thing is, uh, dont believe everything you see thats on the media. Um, there are vanguards come back from a considerable a long penod back from a considerable a long period of refit. She was going something known as a dso, which means it goes out and test fires. The system. And part of fires. The system. And part of that test, firing the system was actually launching missile. Actually launching the missile. Now everything from our end , now everything from our end, from what i can tell , seems to from what i can tell, seems to have worked the issue is the missile and theres been well over 100 odd missile. Trident over 100 odd missile. Trident missiles have been fired , and missiles have been fired, and theres only been ten failures. And the missiles come from a stock from the United States. So stock from the United States. So its actually a failure of the United States in the missile itself. And thats whats itself. And thats whats happened. I mean, i have no doubt whatsoever that the deterrent remains secure. And indeed, if we ever had to do the unthinkable and launch , i think unthinkable and launch, i think we would be able to do it without any hint or hindrance. So i think, you know, we need to be very cautious about what we say as your other point, yes, the royal navy is too small. The british army is too small, and the Royal Air Force is too small. And whats happening small. And look whats happening in the moment. Look in europe at the moment. Look what ukraine. What happened in ukraine. Look at happening at whats happening in the middle should middle east. We should be investing in our defence investing heavily in our defence and to the point and we need to get to the point where investing not just where were investing not just 2. 5 of our gdp, but more. And 2. 5 of our gdp, but more. And we need to be recruiting more sailors, more airmen, more soldiers , and doing something soldiers, and doing something about our Defence Industrial base. All those things are things we need to do. Things we need to do. But doctor aiken, its okay saying itll be alright on the nights dont worry. When the big comes, everything will big day comes, everything will be but this hardly be tickety boo. But this hardly strikes fear into the heart of Vladimir Putin or the houthi rebels. Does it . Well, listen, rebels. Does it . Well, listen, i have, uh, in my previous existence as a Naval Submarine commander, i have seen on numerous occasions , uh, the numerous occasions, uh, the soviet fleet and indeed some of the things that the russians are doing and ive seen multiple failures of theirs. And anybody whos seen sort of disaster and the of the disaster and the unprofessionalism the unprofessionalism of the russians ukraine, can see russians in ukraine, you can see that, you know, theres a lot to be done there. The one thing i am certain is the am certain about is the professional of our professional wisdom of our submariners everything they submariners and everything they do. There and submariners and everything they do. There there and submariners and everything they do. There and there and submariners and everything they do. There and done there and submariners and everything they do. There and done it,are and submariners and everything they do. There and done it, ie and submariners and everything they do. There and done it, i know seen there and done it, i know that theyll up for the job that theyll be up for the job and up for the task. Okay. Superb. Thank you for joining the doctor joining us on the show. Doctor steve officer steve aiken, former navy officer. Thanks for your time. Now. Still lots more to come between now and 5 00. Well getting now and 5 00. Well be getting the latest on the Gaza Ceasefire votes in the house of commons. Ive joined in the studio, votes in the house of commons. |v1y0u joined in the studio, votes in the house of commons. |v1y0u can ined in the studio, votes in the house of commons. |v1y0u can see, in the studio, votes in the house of commons. |v1y0u can see, by the studio, votes in the house of commons. |v1y0u can see, by jacob udio, as you can see, by jacob rees mogg, who will give us his thoughts. In fact, hes just told me hes walked through that mob there, have his mob over there, will have his take on the vote and what take on the vote ahead. And what this means for british democracy, will it be handing hamas a victory as colonel richard kemp just told us before . But first, heres your latest News Headlines with Polly Middlehurst raanan. The middlehurst judith raanan. The top stories this hour. Mps are debating a motion put forward by the Scottish National party , which calls for a party, which calls for a ceasefire in the middle east between hamas and gaza. Hamas between hamas and gaza. Hamas and israel this evening. But between hamas and gaza. Hamas and israel this evening. But in and israel this evening. But in an unprecedented move, the House Speaker chose amendments put forward by the labour and the government for debate. That means sir keir starmer could avoid a threat of rebellion from within his own party as mps wont be given the chance to dissent in support of the snp motion. Its a clear step away motion. Its a clear step away from convention by the speaker andifs from convention by the speaker and its ignited fury in the commons. Well, mps. And its ignited fury in the commons. Well, mps. Order commons. Well, mps. Order youll be going and not be voting. Voting. Thats the first one to leave. Then the voice of sir lindsay hall there in the commons , and that anger that commons, and that anger that erupted in the chamber earlier on. Well , mps, on. Well, mps, i can tell you, are continuing to debate those amendments in the house of commons today. Tory mps Robert Goodwill telling gb news todays dramatic developments are unlikely to have any impact on the situation in the ground, on the situation in the ground, on the ground in gaza also in the commons today, the labour leader pressed the Prime Minister on allegations made by the business secretary that the former post office boss lied about a row over compensation to victims as the deepening row dominated todays Prime Ministers questions after Kemi Badenoch accused Henry Staunton of spreading falsehoods and making up an astonishing series of claims. That was after he said claims. That was after he said the government had deliberately delayed compensation payments to post office victims. Miss badenoch also said mr stauntons claims were a blatant attempt to seek revenge after he was sacked , and Leicestershire Police have within the last hour named the missing two year old boy who fell into the river soar on sunday as xle maruziva. In sunday as xle maruziva. In a Statement Released today, the toddlers family described him as a cheeky , funny boy whos as a cheeky, funny boy whos a bundle of joy. Theyve also thanked members of the community for their ongoing support , but for their ongoing support, but specialist Police Divers are continuing with their search today in the aylestone meadows area of leicester , despite area of leicester, despite difficult conditions caused by heavy rainfall. And in other heavy rainfall. And in other news today, a couple from lancashire have been revealed as the winners of the first uk euromillions jackpot of 2024. Theyve won a life changing amount £61 million. Richard and Debbie Nuttall winning a share of the £123 million jackpot prize from the end of last months draw. Prize from the end of last months draw. The other prize from the end of last months draw. The other Winning Ticket had been bought in spain for the latest stories. Do sign up for gb news alerts. Scan the up for gb news alerts. Scan the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. Common alerts youre listening to gb news radio. Radio. Welcome back. Its 437. Youre watching or listening to Martin Daubney on gb news. Now, Commons Speaker sir Lindsay Hoyle has selected amendments tabled by labour and the government to the snps Gaza Ceasefire motion. But his controversial decision was met with boos and cries for bring bercow back. With bercow back. With three straight, which restricts order by. Order. By. Order. Order order order youll be going and not be voting okay. Chaos there. And for more on that, lets speak now to the mp for North East Somerset and of course, gb news presenter jacob course, gb news presenterjacob rees mogg. Jacob, welcome to the show. Lets start with Lindsay Hoyle, the speaker. The first hoyle, the speaker. The first allegations hes showing bias towards the labour party by allowing this amendment to be tabled. Do you think that curries any favour . No, i think thats absolutely wrong. I think Lindsay Hoyle, mr speaken i think Lindsay Hoyle, mr speaker, has shown himself whilst hes been speaker , to be whilst hes been speaker, to be completely impartial. This was completely impartial. This was not an easy decision because youve got a number of conventions knocking against each it would very each other. It would be very unusual not to accept an amendment by the leader of the official opposition and unprecedented not to accept one by the government. So you had unprecedented not to accept one by tclash ernment. So you had unprecedented not to accept one by tclash ofnment. So you had unprecedented not to accept one by tclash of precedence ou had unprecedented not to accept one by tclash of precedence in had unprecedented not to accept one by tclash of precedence in thei this clash of precedence in the order in which they came. So he didnt have an easy decision. But unquestionably an but he is unquestionably an impartial adjudicator. Now, jacob, ive been asking viewers for the whole show for their thoughts. Like read viewers for the whole show for theiathoughts. Like read viewers for the whole show for theia few ghts. Like read viewers for the whole show for theia few ofts. Like read viewers for the whole show for theia few of their like read viewers for the whole show for theia few of their comments d viewers for the whole show for theia few of their comments to out a few of their comments to you. Martin, im sick you. Terry says martin, im sick and tired the amount of and tired of the amount of parliamentary spent gaza parliamentary time spent on gaza and israel, while our country is falling apart around our ears, dave says. How has it been dave says. How has it been possible to announce all of the enemies . Sorry, thats the wrong one, graham says. What a waste of parliamentary time and money. Nothing they say will make any difference. Time will be better off stopping the boats packed says this. Im an 80 year old woman watching this debate. This debacle unfold. I debacle in parliament unfold. I am absolutely raging. Jacob people arent happy that so much time has been dedicated to the affairs of gaza. I think terry, graham and pat make a very fair point. Far too much parliamentary time is taken up. Not discussing legislation, not working through the details of the laws that are being passed, but debating things of general interest in this case, interest where we wont actually be able to do anything. But today is an opposition day, one of three each in the hands of the snp. Um, actually i think they give half a day to the ulster unionists, but they have a small allocation and the snp have decided that the biggest thing they want to discuss, nothing to do with their failures in scotland, nothing to do with domestic but they want domestic policy. But they want to about gaza and theyve to talk about gaza and theyve done political done it mainly for political reasons , to try and upset the reasons, to try and upset the labour party and also jacob. We had colonel richard kemp on shortly before you on the show shortly before you arrived. Handing arrived. The west is handing victory to hamas, he says. And he said hamas will be watching events in the British Parliament tonight, and theyll be delighted that western liberal democracies are calling for the bombardment of them to end, because they will simply regroup and live to fight another day. Hamas must be destroyed to quote the elder cato, that it must be rooted out and finished, and we must back israel to do that. Otherwise, israel will never be safe. And what happened in october will happen again. And i october will happen again. And i accept that to win a war, you have to use brutal means. That is simply a fact of war. But israel did not ask for this war. It did not start this war. The war was started against israel and the people israel and the and the people of israel and the jewish more widely , and jewish people more widely, and they be allowed to win to they must be allowed to win to root out hamas. Root out hamas. And that means allowing them to continue with plan. To continue with their plan. Jacob, we can see live and jacob, we can see live pictures there on screen now, a sizeable mob has grouped outside of parliament the that was meant to start at 5 00. Theyve been there since i came in half 12 ish. There expected to grow in number. Jacob, ahead of this vote, expected towards seven. I want to talk about one of the signs there, said , um, be sure signs there, said, um, be sure to tell your grand child how you voted today. Say, does this kind voted today. Say, does this kind of sentiment, voted today. Say, does this kind of sentiment , this, this anger, of sentiment, this, this anger, this hatred almost towards parliament that these kind of protests create . Is it emboldened by the votes of tonight and does this kind of thing make people like yourself feel less safe as parliamentarian . Parliamentarian . No, no, i feel perfectly safe. And i think theyre entitled to say you must be willing to be for your vote on your conscience. I think that is a reasonable charge for protesters to make, and i believe in the right of free protest. The only thing where i think you have to draw the line is when they are, um, calling for the murder of jews or anti semitic chants and creating hatred. Thats different. But to say thats different. But to say to politicians, youre on the spot. Youve got to choose. Thats our job. Youve got to choose. Thats ourjob. Thats perfectly fair. Our job. Thats perfectly fair. And youve just come from parliament and more or Less Parliament and you more or less came didnt look came through, didnt look anything when i anything like that busy when i walked so must walked through. So they must have more crowds in have got a few more crowds in the minutes. Quarter of the last ten minutes. Quarter of an shall have to go back an hour. I shall have to go back through them. But you know, british protesters amazingly protesters are amazingly civilised, caught civilised, and ive been caught up in protest before, and its always perfectly friendly. Confident that if it are you confident that if it kicks off tonight , the police kicks off tonight, the police are to do their job . Jacob are going to do their job . Jacob weve seen lots of talk of allegations two policing allegations of two tier policing of these kinds of people running on to War Memorials and wearing face coverings , carrying face coverings, carrying slogans, calling for jihad face coverings, carrying slogans, calling forjihad on slogans, calling for jihad on british streets and getting away with it with impunity. With it with impunity. Well, people who break the law should be arrested, and people who attack War Memorials should be arrested. People who carry banners calling hatred should calling for racial hatred should be arrested, and the police should that without or should do that without fear or favour. Their job. And favour. That is their job. And its very concerning. This district seemed to district judge, who seemed to like tweet that was hostile to israel , then basically letting israel, then basically letting some people off scot free. Thats a matter of grave concern. Okay. Jacob rees mogg, thank you very much for joining us okay. Jacob rees mogg, thank you very much forjoining us on you very much for joining us on the show. And of course, youre back with your show tonight. Indeed and well i will indeed be, and well be discussing these issues and more. 8 to 9 pm. Until p. M. Jacob rees mogg, thank you very much. And you very much. And make sure you stay safe on the way back in there. Of that vote later there. Ahead of that vote later on. Was rees mogg. On. That was jacob rees mogg. Superb now moment superb stuff. Now in a moment well another gb well be joined by another gb news nigel farage news heavyweight, nigel farage from washington, where he has been meeting a senior republican figures and what will he have to say about donald trump . Well, dont because well dont go anywhere because well find im martin find out next. Im Martin Daubney on gb news, britains news channel. News radio. Welcome back. News radio. Welcome back. Its 446. Youre watching or listen to Martin Daubney on gb news now with drama in the commons ahead of a vote on tonights vote on gaza, on that ceasefire and that goes to our man stateside for his take on this is gb news presenter nigel farage. Nigel welcome to the show. A sizeable mob nigel has show. A sizeable mob nigel has gathered outside Parliament Several hundred. Um, theyre saying be sure to tell your grandchildren how you voted today. Whats the point of this debate, nigel . A lot of people are writing in to gb news saying, why are we wasting so much debating gaza when we much time debating gaza when we should be talking grimsby, should be talking about grimsby, gateshead, and gateshead, gillingham and glasgow . Glasgow . Well, thats what sectarian politics does, martin. And thats where weve gone. Uh, you know, you can look at whats happening around the country with various elections , um, and with various elections, um, and gazais with various elections, um, and gaza is being talked about far more than , for example, grimsby, more than, for example, grimsby, as you raise this is predominantly an issue for the labour party. Of course. Uh, labour party. Of course. Uh, they have sort of almost institutional anti semitism now within them. Whatever Keir Starmers efforts have been to clear things up. I mean, the clear things up. I mean, the truth of whats happening today is these are games, Party Political games going on in westminster that make no difference to us as a country and more importantly, make no difference to the situation in gaza. What so ever. It is the beginning of sectarian religious sectarianism in british politics and it will turn ugly and nigel, we had colonel richard kemp on the show a short while ago and he went a stage further, saying hamas will be watching the debate in parliament in britain tonight. Tonight. And the west is handing a victory to them. If we go for a ceasefire, they will simply regroup and attack israel again in the future. In the future. Im afraid that israel are running out of friends. Everything from our royal family even the foreign secretary, lord camerons tone has changed. I mean, look, we all understand that civilian deaths in gaza are horrific , but hamas is an horrific, but hamas is an appalling terrorist organisation , even if its not dealt with in some way. Then october 7 will happen again and again and again. And i still emotionally have have sympathy with the israeli position. But as i say, theyre running out of friends everywhere. And nigel, we can see their spectacular backdrop. Youre in spectacular backdrop. Youre in washington dc , your show is live washington dc, your show is live from washington tonight. Nigel farage said seven till eight on gb news. Whats the mood amongst the republican camp . Whats the Political Landscape over there . Are we looking at trump to the return of trump . Yeah well three return of trump . Yeah well three things to say. I think. Firstly you know, the vast majority of americans think joe biden is simply too old. And yet the Democrat Party still seem intent on keeping him as their candidate. Secondly big talk about this fine that was imposed upon donald trump by the courts in new york, quite the most absurd legal judgement ive seen in my life. I think you know, he borrowed money from banks. He paid it all back. Whats the problem . Yet clearly whats the problem . Yet clearly the political judiciary here are trying to put him out of business. And this is very bad for new york already. Major investors saying, do you know what . If this how they what . If this is how they behave, would we ever invest behave, why would we ever invest or business new york . Or run a business in new york . And course, we look and thirdly, of course, we look ahead big trump speech at ahead to the big trump speech at cpac morning. And cpac on saturday morning. And then we go south carolina, then we go to south carolina, where going beat nikki where hes going to beat nikki haley the state in which she haley in the state in which she was governor. So think was governor. So i think saturday ends debate within saturday ends the debate within the party. Will the Republican Party. Trump will be nominee. And at the end be the nominee. And at the end of the day, its about six states america. Its states in america. Its a few hundred thousand that hundred thousand voters that will who next will decide who the next president the minute , president is. And at the minute, trump much in the lead. Trump is very much in the lead. So the next few so i think over the next few days at cpac, the republican grassroots are going to be very, very buoyant indeed. Nigel, you called it correctly once again, when you said the british general election is going to be fought on immigration. The situation in america, nigel, is extraordinary. Whats going on with texas on. Whats going on with texas on the southern border there . How big a deal is immigration going to be in the president ial election in november . Election in november . Well, when you see a democrat mayor of new york saying, we simply cant cope with this number of Illegal Immigrants being bussed into our city, you know, we are at breaking point. Know, we are at breaking point. You this is a massive you realise this is a massive issue , and i think it should be issue, and i think it should be the dominant america the dominant issue in america as well. You know, you are talking well. You know, you are talking since biden became president. Of since biden became president. Of 6 to 10 Million People that have crossed that border, you know, 1 million, 1 million crossed in january alone. So this is january alone. So this is a massive issue for america. Yeah, massive issue for america. Yeah, its a big threat to the national security. Its knock on effects with the drugs, trade, crime and cities is frankly immeasurable. So yeah, its going to be a big issue to. Here going to be a big issue to. Here and could i also ask you one of the things that donald trump said is drill baby drill energy sovereignty. How many said is drill baby drill energy sovereignty. How many things do you think that donald will do on day one . He talks about putting a wrecking ball through trans issues, through net zero issues. Do you think that donald trump mark2 , if he gets elected in, mark2, if he gets elected in, will be even more , more will be even more, more assertive, even more out there than the donald trump mark . One um, if he becomes the 47th president , he will be. Itll be rather like churchills action this day. Trump will just do stuff and to hell, to hell with what the opposition have to say. And hes laid out. Hes laying out very clearly what his plans are. Yeah, yeah. No, plans are. Yeah, yeah. No, a trump second presidency will be very, very exciting. The very, very exciting. The important thing for us is that we cement our relationship with donald trump around nato. And my donald trump around nato. And my worry is that an incoming Labour Government would have senior figures like david lammy that have been so hostile to him. And my fear is if labour break us away from trump, we then finish up virtually back in a sort of european style defence pact and almost back in the european union. So this relationship with america security being the key is going to be absolutely vital to us in the years going ahead. Now nigel, before we let you go , now nigel, before we let you go, youre over at cpac. Youre over at cpac. Can you tell gb news viewers what what thats about and what we can expect out of it . Yeah well, the Republican Party dont have an annual congress the way that the conservatives and labour do in our country. But cpac, the conservative Political Action committee , has Political Action committee, has been going for over 40 years. Uh, Ronald Reagan was very much in the vanguard of making it a big event. And yeah , there are big event. And yeah, there are going to be Something Like 10,000 grassroots conservative activists from all over america attending this conference. And do you know something . It has do you know something . It has levels , optimism and levels of energy, optimism and enthusiasm that we just do not see with current conservatism in the united kingdom. So im the united kingdom. So im looking forward to it. Its going to be a very exciting few days. Superb. Thank you very much for joining us. Nigel farage forjoining us. Nigel farage live from washington dc. And of course, america course, live from america tonight for farage at large from washington, dc. Thank you very much for joining washington, dc. Thank you very much forjoining us while much for joining us while staying with our top story. Now, the votes, as you the Gaza Ceasefire votes, as you can see, live on your screen now, these are live pictures outside of the house of the parliament where protesters are gathering in increasing numbers outside as mps debate that Gaza Ceasefire inside, that vote is expected around about 7 pm. Tonight. There are three votes on the table. The first one, the snp or demanding an immediate ceasefire. The labour party, meanwhile , or asking for an meanwhile, or asking for an immediate humanitarian ceasefire by all sides. They want also hamas to lay down arms as the conservative party of course, are saying they want an immediate humanitarian pause. Immediate humanitarian pause. None of these votes will be binding. They are performative. They wont really achieve anything. And colonel richard kemp said it would even embolden hamas, who will be watching liberal democracies allowing them to wriggle from the noose. Them to wriggle from the noose. Well have all the latest reaction to that vote and much, much more in your next hour ahead of that big vote at 7 pm. Stick with us. Im Martin Daubney on gb news, britains news channel a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on. Gb solar sponsors of weather on. Gb news afternoon. Im alex deakin. This is your im alex deakin. This is your latest weather update from the met office for gb news. Further lively weather to come tonight and tomorrow. Some further heavy rain and in places some very gusty winds as one weather system brought plenty of rain through today and another smaller but more lively feature arriving through tonight and tomorrow, bringing some showery rain into Northern Ireland and western scotland. Todays rain clearing away from the east for a good part of the night. Most of England Wales will be dry of england and wales will be dry with some clear spells. Might turn misty in some turn a little misty in some spots, more spots, but look at this more heavy comes in as we heavy rain than comes in as we head towards dawn. It will stay very mild in the south, but starting to turn a little colder further temperatures further north. Temperatures here well single well down into single digit s tomorrow. Another spell of tomorrow. Then another spell of rain parts of northern rain coming in parts of northern england. Midlands. England. The midlands. 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Again, some heavy ones and a cooler feel. Looks like things are heating up by boxt boilers sponsors of weather on. Gb news way. Good afternoon. Its 5 pm. Good afternoon. Its 5 pm. And welcome to the Martin Daubney show on gb news broadcasting live from the heart of westminster. All across the uk. As you can see now, live pictures on your screen. Hundreds of pro Palestinian Protesters have gathered outside of parliament ahead of a vote on a Gaza Ceasefire. That vote is expected in around about two hours time at 7 pm, and were crossing live to our reporter whos watching events there as they unfold. Hold now also this they unfold. Hold now also this our tried and tested and failed more and more disasters for our beleaguered military , this time beleaguered military, this time with our Nuclear Weapons. A with our Nuclear Weapons. A recent missile test misfire sad and pathetically crashed into the ocean off the coast of florida. But dont worry lads , florida. But dont worry lads, at least the royal navy could be taking Climate Change course as you couldnt make it up. And you couldnt make it up. And another small british town is becoming gulf by protests against migrant hotels. Millom against migrant hotels. Millom is the latest town to face this growing controversy, and well have more in the final hour. Well speak to a councillor from that town who says enough is enough. Thats all coming up in your next hour. Welcome to the your next hour. Welcome to the show. Its a pleasure to have your company as always. As we said, two hours away from that gaza vote, a mob is gathering outside parliament. So many of you have been getting in touch saying this is pointless. Its a waste of parliamentary time. Why does parliament dedicate so much attention to gaza and not grimsby or gloucestershire or gillingham . Gateshead yet this debate is going on. Well be covering that protest outside. Its growing the atmosphere is febrile. But before all of that, heres your latest news headunes heres your latest News Headlines with Polly Middlehurst. Martin thank you and good evening to you. Well lets bring you up to date then with events in the house of commons today, as youve just been hearing, mps are motion put are debating that motion put forward Scottish National forward by the Scottish National party, which calls for a ceasefire live ceasefire in gaza. These live pictures to us from the pictures coming to us from the house of commons ahead of that critical vote at at 7 00 this evening , will the House Speaker evening, will the House Speaker chose to debate amendments by labour as well as the government in a move away from convention . And that meant sir keir starmer could avoid the threat of a rebellion from within his own party as mps wont be given the chance now to dissent by supporting the snp motion. Speakers clear step away from convention did ignite some astonishment in the commons. Order. Order. Youll be going and not be voting. Voting. Well, thats the first one to leave. Then the voice there of sir Lindsay Hoyle threatening to oust members from the chamber unless he could restore order. In the wake of that debate, mps continuing to discuss that ceasefire in gaza and the tory mp sir Robert Goodwill telling gb news todays dramatic developments this may be controversial , but theyre controversial, but theyre unlikely to have any impact on the situation. On the ground in gaza. Actually, a number of labour hardliners would have voted with the snp. I noticed that Jeremy Corbyns name was actually on the snp amendment, not that hes currently a labour member. So i think that will probably mean that labour are back in their comfort zone. Of course, none of comfort zone. Of course, none of this really matters in terms of whats happening the ground whats happening on the ground in all a little bit in gaza. Its all a little bit of sort political point of sort of political point scoring, know, the prime scoring, and you know, the Prime Minister has amendment down minister has an amendment down which ill be voting for, which i re establishes our i think re establishes our support for the state of israel and its right to self protect in well , in and its right to self protect in well, in another turn of and its right to self protect in well , in another turn of events well, in another turn of events in the commons today, the labour leader also pressed the Prime Minister this lunchtime on allegations made by the business secretary , me, that the former secretary, me, that the former post office boss lied about a row over compensate to victims that comes after Kemi Badenoch accused Henry Staunton of spreading falsehoods after he said the government had deliberately delayed compensation payments to victims. Rishi sunak insisted he is standing by Kemi Badenoch, pointing to the steps the government is taking to support victims of the scandal. Government is taking to support victims of the scandal. Now downing street says it still has complete confidence in britains Trident Nuclear programme, despite a missile misfiring and crashing into the ocean from the Nuclear Submarine hms vanguard. Nuclear submarine hms vanguard. And its the second time a test has failed. The government is unable to say when the last successful test took place. The defence secretary, grant shapps, was on board when the £17 million misfire took place , as million misfire took place, as was the first sea lord admiral sir ben kay. The ministry of defence says its unusual, but insists trident is still safe, secure and effective. Lets just secure and effective. Lets just bnng secure and effective. Lets just bring you some news that came to us in the last hour from Leicestershire Police. Theyve named the missing two year old little boy who fell into the river soar on sunday whilst out walking with his family. His name is xle maruziva. In a Statement Released today, the toddlers family described him as a cheeky, funny boy whos a bundle of joy. Theyve also bundle of joy. Theyve also thanked members of the community for their ongoing support. Specialist Police Divers are continuing their search today in the aylestone meadows area of leicester. Despite very leicester. Despite very difficult conditions. They say, caused by heavy rainfall. All caused by heavy rainfall. All now Julian Assange is awaiting to see whether he can appeal over his extradition to the us. Over his extradition to the us. Other protesters gathered outside the royal courts of justice today, where his lawyers have been presenting his case. Its all over an alleged conspiracy to publish leaked documents relating to the afghanistan and iraq wars, the long running case could be his final chance to avoid spending the rest of his life in a us prison at the end of todays hearing, dame Victoria Sharp and mr Justice Johnson said they would give their decision at a later date. Later date some of those gathered outside the court spoke about their hopes for juuan spoke about their hopes for Julian Assange. Julian assange. I hope that he gets a chance to have an appeal because this could hearing is only i mean, there is not. I hope, for him to become free immediately. Um i mean, hes only in prison because of his publications of torture and war crimes. Yeah, its really, really important. Yeah, its really, really important. Its probably one of the most important decisions about free speech. A courts going to ever, ever make. Definitely the, the, the case of the century , the Julian Assange. Love him to release. But i dont think it will happen. But, dont think it will happen. But, um, its basically the most important thing. Important thing. Now, some good news for you. A couple from lancashire have been revealed as the lucky winners of the first uk euromillions jackpot of 2024. They have won a life changing £61 million. Richard and Debbie Nuttall won a share of the £123 million jackpot prize from the end of last months draw , the end of last months draw, the other Winning Ticket had been bought in spain. If youre listening in spain, check your ticket for the very latest stories. Do sign up to gb news stories. Do sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen , or go to on your screen, or go to gbnews. Com slash alerts gb news. Com slash alerts. Gbnews. Com slash alerts. Thank you paulie. Now were continuing with our coverage of that controversial decision from the speaker of the commons to accept amendments to the snp motion on the Gaza Ceasefire. Well, as you can see, hundreds of protesters have gathered outside of parliament ahead of that commons vote later on expected round about 7 pm. And as you can see and hear, crowds can be seen waving flags as part of the Palestine Solidarity Campaign. Now lets go straight campaign. Now lets go straight into the mix of that now, because gb news presenter Patrick Christys is covering that protest on his show tonight. Pat, whats the mood on the ground . The ground . Yeah, okay, so its obviously incredibly tense. There are thousands of people here now. What youll be able to see is that this crowd that was kind of quite kettled in here is now being moved by police down towards parliament square. And towards parliament square. And if we just pan round there are thousands of people who are at the other end of this who are going to be all filling parliament square, both sides of this road are going to be completely full. Its worth beanng completely full. Its worth bearing parliament bearing in mind that parliament will tonight snp will vote tonight on the snp demands immediate demands for an immediate ceasefire. Has ceasefire. The government has tabled an amendment urging an immediate pause, immediate humanitarian pause, and a labour motion and theres a labour motion asking for ceasefire that asking for a ceasefire that lasts is observed by all lasts and is observed by all sides. Its kind of peoples sides. So its kind of peoples front here, front of judea territory here, i must but what were seeing must say. But what were seeing is signs, as you would is a lot of signs, as you would expect, palestine. Israel expect, free palestine. Israel is terror state and a huge is a terror state and a huge number of people who are desperate to make their voice heard. Martin and if we just pan around to the other side if possible, my cameraman, ollie, a Massive Police presence there. Absolutely huge. And that Police Presence extends both sides of millbank. Be able to see millbank. Youll be able to see police all lining up there where ihave police all lining up there where i have been here, just to my right is where a lot of mps and politicians enter into the house of commons. Now theyve been getting roundly by people. Getting booed roundly by people. I would just to also just i would just like to also just give a little heads up, give you a little heads up, martin, on something that weve just to us, which just had come to us, which is that understand it, some that as we understand it, some people these people from some of these protest groups actually protest groups have actually managed access legally, managed to gain access legally, completely, legally to the house of commons, which does imply that during the debates tonight , that during the debates tonight, were going to end up with a situation where will situation where people will be in pubuc situation where people will be in public who are in the Public Gallery who are obviously potentially part of demonstrations so demonstrations like this, so they up being they could well end up being some disruption but that some disruption there. But that is Security Services some disruption there. But that is sort Security Services some disruption there. But that is sort out. Security services some disruption there. But that is sort out. Buturity services some disruption there. But that is sort out. But these ervices some disruption there. But that is sort out. But these are ces some disruption there. But that is sort out. But these are the to sort out. But these are the scenes ground here now at scenes on the ground here now at westminster. Westminster. So patrick, now, whats so patrick, for now, whats the the crowd . They the mood of the crowd . Are they good they giving good natured . Are they giving you stick . You any stick . Not at the moment, really. Weve been spotted by a couple of people. Its not been particularly friendly, but the fact a free press. We fact is its a free press. We are free country what are in a free country and what we to is just portray we want to do is just portray the if choose the reality. So if they choose to portray a negative reality, then be it. But i will say then so be it. But i will say want absolutely very want to make it absolutely very clear moment. It all clear at the moment. It is all you know, palestine you know, free palestine ceasefire. Hear, ceasefire. Now as you can hear, people megaphones, i think people with megaphones, i think the problem possibly is going to be for but in be not just for us, but in general, going be be not just for us, but in geithe l, going be be not just for us, but in geithe evening going be be not just for us, but in geithe evening develops be be not just for us, but in geithe evening develops and as as the evening develops and as more gather. More and more people gather. I mean, crowd has grown by mean, this crowd has grown by hundreds and hundreds just hundreds and hundreds in just the an hour. So hundreds and hundreds in just the an hour. So as the last half an hour. So as more gathered tonight, more people gathered tonight, the reality martin, they are the reality is, martin, they are not happy any not going to be happy with any decision in there decision that is made in there because of it is exactly because none of it is exactly what they want. Are what they want. So we are potentially going to praised potentially going to be praised for disruption for another night of disruption in capital, the in the capital, to say the least. Will bringing all least. We will be bringing all of here at gb news. Of that to you here at gb news. But on show later on, im but on my show later on, im going be trying to in going to be trying to get in amongst this and talk to people going to be trying to get in anpeople his and talk to people going to be trying to get in anpeople canand talk to people going to be trying to get in anpeople can expect to people going to be trying to get in anpeople can expect that. Eople going to be trying to get in anpeople can expect that. 9 ple going to be trying to get in anpeople can expect that. 9 toe so people can expect that. 9 to 11 on gb news. 11 pm. Tonight on gb news. Thank you. Okay, patrick. Chris, tonight thats 11 news thats 9 to 11 on gb news patricks. Stay safe there patricks. Stay safe out there my friend. Stay safe. All my good friend. Stay safe. All the mate. See you soon. The best, mate. See you soon. Right to the right lets cut back to the studio. Chris hope is joining me again. The crowds getting bigger and bigger. Well behaved for now. Its often the case. And then it gets dark and the vote is at 7 pm. But, chris, i have to say to you, ive been asking the viewers throughout the show for their opinions. And chris, most people i would say 95 of the response is, is i am. Terry says this i am sick and tired of the amount of parliamentary time spent on gaza and israel. While our country is falling apart around around our ears, graham says. What a waste of parliamentary time and money. Nothing they say will make any difference. Time will be better off spent stopping the boats. Off spent stopping the boats. Jenny says this. What a waste of work in parliament. No matter what happens , it wont make a what happens, it wont make a blind bit of difference to israel. So chris, why do votes like this matter . Like this matter . This is about the election. This is about the election. The election is in eight months time. The snp are given time in parliament to debate what they want. They call opposition day debates. They get four or so a year. Debates. They get four or so a year. Um, debates. They get four or so a year. Um, labour, the main opposition party, gets maybe 18 or so a year. They can choose to debate what they like, and theyve chosen to debate calls for immediate ceasefire and for an immediate ceasefire and condemns punishment for an immediate ceasefire and co palestinians punishment for an immediate ceasefire and co palestinians today. Punishment for an immediate ceasefire and co palestinians today. S0|nishment for an immediate ceasefire and co palestinians today. So if shment for an immediate ceasefire and co palestinians today. So if you ent of palestinians today. So if you want to blame anybody , these want to blame anybody, these viewers blame the snp. Viewers should blame the snp. Its their time they are its their time and they are forcing mps to vote. This this issue , the labour their own issue, the labour of their own amendment and the governments put theirs down. Whats happened today , the drama today in the today, the drama today in the house of commons, is that the guy in charge, the speaker, the referee, football referee, like a football match, has rules , drawing has changed the rules, drawing the match previously , only the the match previously, only the government can really normally amend an opposition date in motion. Thats the tory government. In this situation. Government. In this situation. The speaker, who is independent, has allowed labour to amend this motion, allowing its mps to vote for its its policy because all policies are slightly different. Policies are slightly different. Snp wants an immediate ceasefire. Um, labour want an immediate humanitarian ceasefire and the tories want a pause. Different language , but this matters now. Language, but this matters now. Why has that happened . Well, theres claims in the house of commons today that, um , uh, commons today that, um, uh, speaker Lindsay Hoyle was bullied by labour, that is denied by labour and by his, by speaker hoyles allies. Ive speaker hoyles allies. Ive been on the phone just recently, just now to, um, Lindsay Hoyles people. Theyre telling me, making very clear that he wanted to different debate. He to have a different debate. He said that rules, uh, go back said that the rules, uh, go back to time when there are two main parties in 79. Now there are three parties with lots of mps, and also to take the and he also wants to take the heat of this. Seeing heat out of this. Youre seeing the from patrick the heat there from patrick reporting outside parliament. He wants mps a way to wants to give all mps a way to vote on, on, policy. Its vote on, on, on the policy. Its not really a its not really a choice one the other. Give choice in one or the other. Give more tories think more options. The tories think hes given the labour party a get out clause from what could have caused number have caused a number of frontbench resonate today, and some tory mps are saying its as bad as bercow. Some tory mps are saying its as bad as bercow. And that goes bad as bercow. And that goes back to the time of the brexit battles back in 2017, 2019. So i think Lindsay Hoyle has taken a stance here that is controversial and is really annoyed. The snp and the tory party, labour is happy, and is it because some people are intimating , um, using that intimating, um, using that football analogy that he might get shown the red card by labour if labour win, if he doesnt have this debate today . Because of course, the party that gets into power chooses the next speaker whos in charge of the house of the commons. Speaken the house of the commons. Speaker. So in that respect , speaker. So in that respect, people are saying, is he being strong armed into taking this amendment . So he gets a job next time round . Exactly. The claim that two tory have made to me for gb tory mps have made to me for gb news this afternoon, and that is what denied as noncy. Its what is denied as noncy. Its rubbish completely nonsense. Untrue by labour and absolutely nonsense by Lindsay Hoyle. So nonsense by Lindsay Hoyle. So the two two groups who might benefit from that are saying its true. Others smell a its not true. Others smell a rat will leave users to rat will leave, leave users to decide that. But its lindsay decide that. But its Lindsay Hoyle trying to say hes hoyle is trying to say hes allowed change rules when he allowed to change rules when he feels the need to be changed. This is a very divisive issue, but theyre going back your but theyre going back to your point viewers and point from the viewers and listeners. It will listeners. Why now . Well it will make real difference to gaza make no real difference to gaza or to israelis. Israelis or to the israelis. Israelis watch it very closely. Hamas takes succour from it. As we heard from richard kemp. Um, but its really a it is about its really a lot of it is about politics, im afraid. And the upcoming election, its worth briefly point. Briefly dwelling on that point. Chris, because you asked um, chris, because you asked richard kemp, i asked he richard kemp, i asked him, he made claim that made the astonishing claim that hamas will be watching this debate with glee because western liberal democracies are acting , liberal democracies are acting, calling for a ceasefire, which would benefit somebody on earth no more than hamas terrorists. No more than hamas terrorists. Hamas, of course, Still Holding some israeli hostages. And why i think the uk and thats why i think the uk government is following in behind israel, saying we cant have ceasefire all have a ceasefire till all hostages and hostages are back where they need to be in israel, and thats the point. But yeah, i theres i mean, no question, theres richard says he thinks richard kemp says he thinks hamas gold. Take succour hamas is all gold. Take succour from it. Would argue that we hamas is all gold. Take succour frorait. Would argue that we hamas is all gold. Take succour frora debate. Ld argue that we hamas is all gold. Take succour frora debate. Weirgue that we hamas is all gold. Take succour frora debate. We aree that we hamas is all gold. Take succour frora debate. We are athat we are a debate. We are a democracy. All sides are democracy. All all sides are listening all the time. And listening to all the time. And its of strength and its part of our strength and its part of our strength and its shame, chris, because i its a shame, chris, because i know were very know there was a you were very interested in developments, speaking in pmqs today about the post Office Scandal thats still going on in the background, and instead all of instead were spending all of our talking about our bandwidth talking about goals, happened on goals, about what happened on that heard that front. Well, you heard today debate. Still uh today is a big debate. Still uh kemi having battle Kemi Badenoch having a battle there with with former there with the with the former post Henry Post Office chairman, Henry Staunton, what to who . Staunton, who said what to who . Um was the government trying to go slow to limp into the election hobble into it, election or to hobble into it, as see from a leaked memo and as we see from a leaked memo and go payments strongly go slow on payments strongly denied by Kemi Badenoch. Shes a denied by Kemi Badenoch. Shes a business secretary. I was also interested, the way, in a interested, by the way, in a leaked staunton leaked memo from Henry Staunton from 5th, last year, from january the 5th, last year, uh, recounting a conversation between Henry Staunton and sarah munby in which they discussed what is a politically acceptable size of the post Office Network that , to me rings alarm bells that, to me rings alarm bells that, to me rings alarm bells that says to me, they havent shut post offices and large scale for 20 years. Will the government , the civil servants, government, the civil servants, try and push the next government into will be into doing that . That will be a big row, will have a big big row, which will have a big impact on our viewers and listeners, that, chris listeners, and that, chris hope, is people care is what people really care about, single post about, because a single post office a single too office lost is a single one too many. Office lost is a single one too ma they support communities. They support communities. They support communities. I would argue schools, gp surgeries , pub and the post surgeries, pub and the post office. Those four things support a community. Take one away. The Community Gets weakened often and sometimes fatally. So chris hope, thank you very much. Excellent analysis today as ever. Great stuff and you get lots more on that on our lots more on that story on our website. And thanks to you. Website. And thanks to you. Gbnews. Com is the Fastest Growing news website in growing National News website in the. Its got breaking the country. Its got breaking news the brilliant news and all the brilliant analysis expect analysis youve come to expect from gb news. So thank you very much. Now times running out on your chance to win £18,000 in cold, hard cash in our latest Great British giveaway as lines closed this friday. 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Now building up to that common ceasefire vote tonight im going to get the view from a trade unionist and what he wants. Uk to do about the wants. The uk to do about the gaza conflict. Live pictures gaza conflict. Live pictures there from that debate happening in the of commons, well in the house of commons, well have throughout have that throughout the rest of the show. Martin daubney on have that throughout the rest of the news, Martin Daubney on have that throughout the rest of the news, britainsin daubney on have that throughout the rest of the news, britains newsrbney on have that throughout the rest of the news, britains news channel listening to gb news radio show. Welcome back. Its 522. Youre watching or listen to Martin Daubney on gb news. And now were continuing our coverage of that controversial decision from the speaker of the commons to accept amendments to the snp motion on the Gaza Ceasefire and joining me now in the studio, live in westminster , the studio, live in westminster, is a trade unionist and a political commentator. Andy macdonald and i can also speak to the chief Political Correspondent for the times. All bri allegretti welcome both of you to the show. Let me start with you if i can. Andy ive been asking people , um, the been asking people, um, the entire show for their take on this debate. Gb news viewers on the overriding sentiment is why on earth are we wasting so much British Parliamentary time on gaza when were not talking about places like grimsby or glasgow or gateshead . So explain to me, why is this vote tonight which has no legal teeth . It doesnt mean anything. Why is it important . Important . I think its important for the uk government. You know, that its an international power. Were seen as a diplomatic force to be reckoned with, to show solidarity with the innocent palestinian people. The innocent palestinian people. Know, civilians you know, those civilians that know, cowering in that are, you know, cowering in rafah, know, having rafah, you know, having airstrikes rafah, you know, having airstheyve forced down there. Hamas are shooting at them. Israel are shooting at them. Its for uk its important for the uk government solidarity to government to show solidarity to set precedent. Set that precedent. International so the International Diplomatic actually diplomatic agencies can actually do in the do something about it in the name the uk government. Name of the uk government. Know, talk about but, you know, you talk about why talking about why arent we talking about grimsby places in grimsby or these other places in the the midlands . The north and the midlands . Because the, you know, well, because the, you know, why do that why would the tories do that anyway . They failed on anyway . You know, they failed on the levelling agenda already. Anyway . You know, they failed on thewhyelling agenda already. Anyway . You know, they failed on thewhy would agenda already. Anyway . You know, they failed on thewhy would onejenda already. Anyway . You know, they failed on thewhy would one afternoon ady. Anyway . You know, they failed on thewhy would one afternoon and so why would one afternoon and evening really evening of parliament really matter evening of parliament really maokay aubrey, um, spoke to okay aubrey, um, spoke to colonel kemp , earlier colonel richard kemp, earlier former commander of British Armed forces. Hes written a column today saying that the people that would be most happy about whats happening today will hamas , because a will be hamas, because a ceasefire allow them to ceasefire will allow them to survive and fight another day. Survive and fight another day. Well, i certainly think what is the heart of both the is at the heart of both the debate thats happening and also what the Commons Speaker is trying do , is trying trying to do, is trying to reduce sort of anger and the reduce the sort of anger and the temperature here. Weve seen how Much Community cohesion has been impacted by hamas invasion of israel on the 7th of october, and then the subsequent retaliation and attempts to recover the hostages by israel. So i do actually think that there an attempt to sort of there is an attempt to sort of try and the temperature try and reduce the temperature now. Now, there is a difference now. Now, there is a difference between some of the motions that have labour, have been proposed. Labour, the snps but snps and the governments. But ultimately about all of ultimately this is about all of those parties being to those parties being able to say to voters, did vote for to their voters, i did vote for something that is going to secure meaningful lasting secure meaningful and lasting peace east, peace in the middle east, whether or not this would whether or not this vote would actually produce well , actually produce that, well, its opposition day its just an opposition day motion. Doesnt have any motion. It doesnt have any binding but it is about binding effect, but it is about saying voters, i voted for saying to voters, i voted for a ceasefire of some sort. And is that andy . Um, a performative of gesture to placate voters . Were seeing this becoming a huge issue, particularly in labour seats, with the high muslim population, for example, the student vote, the younger vote. Is this a performative gesture to placate voters . I dont think its cynical. I dont think its just performative. You know, if they are going out and voting in what their constituents are interested about, you know, thats what should do. Thats what an mp should do. There are a representative of their constituency. Their constituency has, if their constituency has, you oh, whether its just you know, oh, whether its just students, you know, the muslim population, population population, the young population , whoever it if they make up , whoever it is, if they make up a amount of their a large amount of their constituency, they should be representing so constituency, they should be r of that vote at 7 00. And some of that vote at 7 00. And some of them have gained access inside. Always aubrey. Concerns about Security Party placards being held up. Be sure to tell your grandchild how you voted today. Your grandchild how you voted today. Its fair to hold today. Its fair to hold parliamentarians to account. But is this crossing the rubicon of intimidation . Intimidation . Well, ive been a journalist in westminster all throughout the sort of brexit years where there were incredibly strong feelings on either side of the debate, and people used to gather in much the same way they are now outside parliament. Um, to it seems quite to me, so far it seems quite orderly. Sort of orderly. The police are sort of doing quite good kind doing quite a good job of kind of everyone, everyone doing quite a good job of kind of quite everyone, everyone doing quite a good job of kind of quite peaceful, everyone doing quite a good job of kind of quite peaceful there. One seems quite peaceful there. Theyre theyre seems quite peaceful there. The moving. Theyre seems quite peaceful there. The moving. Um, theyre seems quite peaceful there. The moving. Um, haventre seems quite peaceful there. The moving. Um, havent seen not moving. Um, i havent seen anybody of not being able anybody sort of not being able to get to or from where they need to go. And yeah, some people into parliament need to go. And yeah, some peywell. Into parliament need to go. And yeah, some peywell. Theyre into parliament need to go. And yeah, some peywell. Theyre performing ament as well. Theyre performing this mass peoples mass lobby. Its peoples right to into parliament to be able to go into parliament and ask, speak to and be able to ask, to speak to their mp. Obviously, its a febrile but i actually febrile day, but i actually think move that think genuinely, the move that the speaker to select think genuinely, the move that the labourr to select think genuinely, the move that the labour amendment, select think genuinely, the move that the labour amendment, selecits the labour amendment, while its all very boring and all sort of very boring and procedural westminster procedural in westminster ii, it does that the protesters in does mean that the protesters in support of palestine likely does mean that the protesters in su beyrt of palestine likely does mean that the protesters in su be more palestine likely does mean that the protesters in su be more placated likely does mean that the protesters in su be more placated becausey does mean that the protesters in su be more placated because they to be more placated because they do feel that the labour party has taken a stronger position on this. E e difference to both but the difference to both of you this, seen you gents with this, weve seen mike freer decide to stand down because his office was fired , because his office was fired, bombed. He narrowly, he claims , bombed. He narrowly, he claims, avoided being murdered by the same by the same terrorists that took the life of david amess and were seeing fear being ramped up this this in particular as an incident seems to be more febrile than other moments in recent british political history. Do events like this give succour to that . It legitimises succour to that . It legitimises their grievance, and could it result in heightened fear for parliamentarians . Weve seen it already. Already. I think in its not unreasonable for people to sort of voice their point of view. And those gathering outside parliament so far appear to be peaceful. Get updates on the peaceful. We get updates on the parliamentary its parliamentary estate. If its not you know, not safe to leave, you know, a certain exit or if theres a reason for us to be particularly cautionary. Were about cautionary. We were told about this knew it was this in advance. We knew it was coming. Suggested that coming. Nobody suggested that its turned, sour in its turned, you know, sour in any way. And so think so far, any way. And so i think so far, people are just exercising their democratic right to, to protest, you and just and encourage you know, and just and encourage their mp vote a certain way. Their mp to vote a certain way. Um , but theres a fine line um, but theres a fine line between encouragement and an expectation to vote a certain way. Way. Hey, do you think or am i completely on the wrong path here, where it feels to me at least, and it feels a lot of people that watch this show that the mob are influencing how people vote, public votes are out there. People, peoples voting records are out there. This such an emotional issue. This is such an emotional issue. Might affect how people even might it affect how people even vote . Vote . imagine so. Well, id imagine so. Well, id imagine so. I think thats one you know, i think thats one of slogans the of the slogans that the pro palestinian callers are using. No ceasefire, no vote. And i think a legitimate and i think that is a legitimate thing them to say. You know, thing for them to say. You know, if presenting my view if youre not presenting my view on really care on an issue that i really care about parliament, just about in parliament, i just wont for you. Thats wont vote for you. Thats completely democratic. Wont vote for you. Thats complycompletely democratic. Wont vote for you. Thats complycompletely fairnocratic. Wont vote for you. Thats complycompletely fair. Ocratic. Wont vote for you. Thats complycompletely fair. But,ic. Wont vote for you. Thats complycompletely fair. But, you thats completely fair. But, you know, like like aubrey said , you know, like like aubrey said, you know, like like aubrey said, you know, there a fine line and know, there is a fine line and i think they are being very peaceful and, know, more peaceful and, you know, more power them. Believe the power to them. I believe in the freedom to protest. How think this and how do you think this will i mean, obviously will pan out . I mean, obviously this has binding this vote has no binding powers. It wont affect Benjamin Netanyahus a single jot, netanyahus plans. A single jot, but it does send out a message. And were seeing a similar thing in america. Joe biden is now asking for a similar movement. Western democracies seem to be falling into line. Does that not send a message out to israel that actually were we were allies on paper only these days . Allies on paper only these days . Well, youve seen that the sort of western response has changed quite significantly since the 7th october. And since the 7th of october. And indeed, fragmented as well. Indeed, its fragmented as well. So have canada and so you have canada and new zealand came zealand and australia who came out recently and called for this kind of ceasefire kind of permanent ceasefire breaking, like, from the breaking, if you like, from the uk,. Now, the foreign uk, us line. Now, the foreign i think interesting think almost whats interesting is labour has sought to is that labour has sought to mirror the governments line. Mirror the uk governments line. Its present a very its sought to present a very unhed it its sought to present a very united it doesnt want united front. It doesnt want other western nato allies to think that the labour party is going to cause trouble be going to cause trouble and be a big on the world stage big outlier on the world stage if got into government. So if they got into government. So i quite i do think its quite interesting. Labour is now i do think its quite interestpace abour is now i do think its quite interestpace sources; now i do think its quite interestpace sources close to broken pace sources close to shadow david shadow foreign secretary david lammy telling theyre now lammy telling me theyre now ahead governments ahead of the uk governments position. You like. Position. If you like. But whether not can really whether or not they can really sort of move the dial in the run up a general election and up to a general election and then the party then potentially as the party that thats a sort that takes power, thats a sort of that isnt going of question that isnt going to be house of be answered in a house of Parliament Debate today. Okay. Very for thank you very much for joining us both. Thank you very much, all, aubrey much, gents. Thats all, Aubrey Allegretti mcdonnell allegretti and Andy Mcdonnell join the studio. Thanks join me in the studio. Thanks for expert analysis and for your expert analysis and lots to keep eye on there. Lots to keep an eye on there. Ahead this big debate. The ahead of this big debate. The big vote at 7 pm. Lots more still to come between now and 6 00 on the 74th anniversary of when britain scrapped its id card system. Im asking , is it card system. Im asking, is it time to bring id cards back . Plus, well have an exclusive interview with a councillor from that cumbrian town where 40 Asylum Seekers are being dumped on them without them having any say. But first, heres your latest News Headlines with Polly Middlehurst. Looking very middlehurst. Looking very closely at why its so intense, the top stories this hour mps are still debating a motion put forward by the Scottish National party, calling for a ceasefire in gaza ahead of a critical vote this evening. This evening. Lets show you these live pictures coming to us from the house of commons today, the house of commons today, the House Speaker , unusually chose House Speaker, unusually chose amendments put forward by the labour party for debate. That labour party for debate. That means sir keir starmer could avoid the threat of a rebellion from within his own party. As mps wont be given the chance to dissent in support of the snps motion. That was quite a break with convention, usually the opposition amendments arent selected , so it did cause some selected, so it did cause some level of astonishment. Order, order youll be going and not be voting. Voting. Thats the first one to leave. Then, but i dont, i dont i dont think the sound of House Speaker sir Lindsay Hoyle there threatening to oust members from the chamber. The chamber. Will that vote, as we said, expected around expected to take place around 7 00 tonight. Coverage of 7 00 tonight. Live coverage of that right here. 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Sir keir starmer may have been saved from a major gaza rebellion by the skin of his teeth , thanks to the speakers teeth, thanks to the speakers decision to call labours amendment against the advice of the clerk and well be talking about the perilous state of our armed forces with missiles that dont go off and woke ideology in festing, the army , the navy in festing, the army, the navy and the air force tune in at 8 00. You. Youre listening to gb news radio. Radio. Welcome back. 539 youre watching or listening to Martin Daubney on gb news now today marks the 74th anniversary of britains abolishing identity cards. They were used in world cards. They were used in World War Two to track population supply by rationing and demographics. Supply by rationing and demographics. However, with the demographics. However, with the surge of high profile Violent Crimes and missing Asylum Seeker claimants , up to 17,000 believed claimants, up to 17,000 believed to have gone awol is it time that we brought id cards back . Well, joining me now for a more detailed look at this fascinating policy is the immigration lawyer and great friend of the show, ivan sampson. Welcome to studio. Superb. Welcome to the studio. Superb. So look, Winston Churchill got rid of id cards in britain in 1952. And he said at the time he got rid of them to set the people free. But times have moved on. We dont know who is amongst us. 17,000 asylum sukh is gone , eh . Well, we know there is gone, eh . Well, we know there could be criminals and even terrorists amongst them. Todays terrorists amongst them. Todays question is it time to bring back id cards . Well , we have back id cards . Well, we have a fundamental right to privacy , see . Right to privacy, see . And if you havent done anything wrong, then you shouldnt be forced to give information about who you are. The police and titled to question those people whove done something wrong, and theyre entitled to get an answer. But there is an argument that a breach that that its a breach of that privacy that that having been said, they can be a useful tool to crack down on illegal migration in the uk. It wont stop the boats coming across. Thats completely different. But if you have estimated a million Illegal Migrants living in the uk, id cards would make it extremely difficult for them to live their normal lives. For example, you may need id card to rent a property or to, um, even go as far as you need id card to buy groceries. I go as far as you need id card to buy groceries. I mean, that seems extreme, but this is the thin end of the wedge. It could be that thats what we need to do to find out whos in this country, legally or not, legally. And are you highlighting actually part of the opposition to them, this of its the to them, this sense of its the thin of the wedge of big thin end of the wedge of big brother. For example, during covid, of libertarians got covid, a lot of libertarians got rightly about covid rightly concerned about covid passports to go to the cinema , passports to go to the cinema, to go to the gym, to do anything. So would card also have. So would an id card also have downsides in terms of your personal liberty . Well, it does, but it does restrict. For example, restrict access. For example, you cant go to certain companies, use id cards and those id cards are useful because it restricts where you can be, but they can also track you. See, id cards are very useful for tracking where you are. So wherever you go and are. So wherever you go and youve shown an id card , then youve shown an id card, then the government will track where your movements are and that is an infringement of someones liberty. Now the downside of that, people say, oh, thats like a chinese style, you know, you know, communist state tracking system. Tracking system. Um, but we do that anyway with our phones when we tap wherever we go , when we tap our wherever we go, when we tap our credit cards as we travel, we already voluntarily that already voluntarily give that information and the key thing, of course, ivan is also voting when lots of countries when you vote lots of countries that we lord has been very liberal. Um, australia , canada, liberal. Um, australia, canada, france, norway , sweden, they all france, norway, sweden, they all have voter id , they do. Have voter id, they do. And the id card is useful because it gets rid of a lot of the other identity documents in the other identity documents in the eu. You can travel with your the eu. You can travel with your id card. You dont need id card. You dont need a passport. Um, you can you can use that for as a driving license. You get rid of the license. You get rid of the driving license, you could get rid of passports completely and have one single document. The have one single document. The other issue is what information is recorded on that id card. And again its a thin end of the wedge because once they the government starts gathering information, they could extend that information and record details about individual communities , political beliefs, communities, political beliefs, sexual orientation. It could go, sexual orientation. It could go, you know, it could go to that extreme. It could go to that extreme. But on the specific area of your expertise, youre an immigration lawyer. Could it be a deterrent or could it be a deterrent to people entering the country illegally knew country illegally if they knew they must carry an id as you said, a flat to get said, to rent a flat to get a job, to do anything . Could it actually beef up the deterrent for people coming here against the law . Well, we already have it with whats called a biometric residence permit card. And every migrant one of these migrant has one of these documents. And interesting documents. And the interesting thing in december, they being thing is in december, they being revoked. So from december onwards its a digital imprint. So the id cards will come in, but it will be a digital, um, example of what thats going to be. It wont be a physical card in itself, but how would that work if, um, for example, Illegal Immigrants throw everything they own into the sea on the way over . Um, itll on the way over . Yeah. Um, itll be Iris Recognition is where technology is going. Difficulty again , with darker skinned again, with darker skinned people and there was a report by Privacy International in 2005 where it doesnt really work well with dark skinned people. Well with dark skinned people. Iris recognition. Theres also the things about people with mental illness, the elderly, the disabled, are we disabled, you know, how are we going issues . Going to resolve those issues . Uh, id cards for them. Okay. Uh, id cards for them. Okay. Super fascinating conversation, ivan scampton, thank you so much for joining conversation, ivan scampton, thank you so much forjoining us in the studio. And stick with us because now exclusive because i now have an exclusive interview with a councillor from a cumbrian town where local people say theyve been sidelined for Asylum Seekers who are looking for a home. Theyve been dumped on the town with no. So say well speak to the councillor next. Im Martin Daubney on gb news britains news channel. Listening to gb news radio. Listening to gb news radio. Welcome back. Now Transgender Athletes emily bridges is prepared to take her case to the European Court in strasbourg, according to the british cycling british cyclings ban on transgender cyclists in female competition via states, her human rights now bridges claims that she possesses rare savant data to support her case. As she gears up for the legal battle. Well, last year , cycling well, last year, cycling authorities both nationally and internationally, ruled that transgender women are assigned male at birth are ineligible to compete in womens events. And joining me now is canadian powerlifter april hutchinson, who faced a two year ban by the cpu for speaking publicly about the transgender athlete. Thank you so much forjoining us, april. I remember your story at the time. You spoke out bravely. The time. You spoke out bravely. Tell me how and just is it that you believe biological men are allowed to compete against women . Well, 7 well, i . Well, i mean, 7 well, i mean, theres everything wrong with it. Um you know, its unsafe. Um, its know, its unsafe. Um, its funny how you see, uh, the males, uh, suing the federations, but it actually, it should be the females suing for discrimination because were having our rights taken away , having our rights taken away, not just our spaces. And our locker rooms, but were having our our own sport taken away , our our own sport taken away, uh, for these, for these male lift or male competitors. Lift or male competitors. And how damaging was it to you personally and in terms of your career, to have the bravery to speak out . To speak out . Well, i dont know if youve seen over the last year, ever since i actually spoke out about, uh, theres a 40 year old male in my Powerlifting Union that has taken , uh, most, uh, that has taken, uh, most, uh, records in the province of alberta. He has the second highest deadlift in history of all time in the womens category. And because i spoke out and wanted fairness, i got a two year ban. I actually even got banned from a local art exhibit that featured my, uh, story of being on team canada. They got being on team canada. They got rid of my exhibit because i spoke out about it, because my their views did not align with talking fairness , i guess. Talking about fairness, i guess. April , um, i talking about fairness, i guess. April, um, i mean, for and april, um, i mean, for starters, thank you very much for having the bravery to speak out. Know out. It takes real guts. I know that at great personal cost to yourself. Do you that at great personal cost to yourself. Do you think that at great personal cost to yourself. Do you think theres yourself. Do you think theres hope ahead . Are we turning hope ahead . Are we turning a corner . Are we looking towards a future where biological men are kicked out of womens sports . Or particularly in places like canada, which seems to have lost its liberal mind over these past few years, is there no end in sight . Sight . Well, yeah, thats the thing. Well, yeah, thats the thing. Well, yeah, thats the thing. Im probably living in the worst country right now as far as womens rights. Um, unfortunately to our leader, Justin Trudeau , hes done Justin Trudeau, hes done nothing to protect women. But, nothing to protect women. But, you know, recently in the province of alberta in canada , province of alberta in canada, they actually just passed legislation to protect women in sports to make, uh, female only spaces and sports. So thats the one province we do think that other provinces will follow suit, but keep in mind, this wasnt a topic five years ago, right . This is still very new. Um, more transgenders are coming through into sports. Are coming through into sports. More podium spots are taken. So more podium spots are taken. So the best thing that women or anyone can do, which i did, was to speak up and more and more men and women are speaking up. More are suing federations more women are suing federations and even School Boards for allowing boys to compete in girls sports. So we need to keep using our voice because there are changes. And i did say it this year. This year is going to be a huge change. Um, in the positive way. Yes. Okay. Great thank you so much for joining us. And thanks for speaking thats canadian speaking out. Thats canadian powerlifter hutchinson. Speaking out. Thats canadian powerliftervery hutchinson. Speaking out. Thats canadian powerliftervery muchhinson. Speaking out. Thats canadian powerliftervery much indeed. Now thank you very much indeed. Now moving on. Theres fury as people struggling to find a home in a cumbrian town are reportedly being sidelined for Asylum Seekers. Eight homes in the remote seaside town of millom have been reserved for housing migrants under the plans, the houses bought for less than £100,000, will home up to 40 people from overseas. And to 40 people from overseas. And joining us now is the chair of millom town council, ged magee. Millom town council, ged magee. Thanks for joining millom town council, ged magee. Thanks forjoining us. Ged can you tell us about this story . You tell us about this story . Its been published today. Its been published today. Thousands and thousands of people extremely angry about the fact that despite the fact there is an acute shortage of housing in your town , the properties are in your town, the properties are being hoovered up by the government and Asylum Seekers are being put first by martin. Um, yeah. Thank you for inviting me on. Um, we learned we learned to this as a council about a month ago. Um, through social media and, you know, a few residents flagging up that that certain houses were being converted into houses of multiple occupancy for, uh, for Asylum Seeker use. And as you can imagine , it became of lets can imagine, it became of lets fact check this. Lets lets fact check this. Lets lets look at the addresses , find out look at the addresses, find out actually who owns them. And move on from there. And the community on from there. And the community werent wrong. Unfortunately, werent wrong. Unfortunately, the community werent wrong. And there were when we looked well over 20 homes that had been identified , tried to, um, be identified, tried to, um, be brought into use as homes and multiple multiple occupancy. Um, multiple multiple occupancy. Um, some of those in in place that we didnt think were suitable opposite primary schools, etc. Um, the town itself has a has an acute shortage of rental accommodation. Both both social and through the private sector. Some of that caused by the demolishing of a Housing Estate some years ago. Thats never been replaced. That was a um from um, a social provider. So yeah, it is an issue. Its an issue were issue. Its an issue were deaung issue. Its an issue were dealing with and were using all our powers as a local council. Were were getting the support of Cumberland Council , were were getting the support of Cumberland Council, our and our mp , um, to try and identify our mp, um, to try and identify how this has happened in such a small town. You know, were a small, remote cumbrian town. Um, small, remote cumbrian town. Um, and while we support the, the, the governments move to, to, um, disperse Asylum Seekers right across the country, which is right and proper that not one Community Takes the brunt of this. What weve been asked to do as a small local, uh, small town is way above that. Town is way above that. And jed, how frustrated are locals . What kind of emotions locals . What kind of emotions are they telling you theyre feeling . Oh, you emotion running through the town. You know it has it has resulted in some antisocial behaviour , some antisocial behaviour, some graffiti on to houses that have been identified. Um, however , been identified. Um, however, what has been very positive is, is weve approached where we could identify developers. Weve spoken directly to developers. Spoken directly to developers. Um, most of them have got a very good social conscience and realise that that why millom is not appropriate. And weve had a number of them that have pulled out and a number of them that are engaging with us in, in how they can now repurpose those homes that theyve already completed on or already started work on for the benefit of the town. Town. Okay, well, jed mcgraw, we have to leave it there. But look, lets please stay in touch because we had a result on gb news. 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Again, some heavy ones and a cooler feel that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on will any of this make a blind bit of difference to the situation there or not . And were all on pretty much the cusp of massive council tax hikes, as nearly all councils are going to raise their tax rates come april. So im asking you, is it time now for massive reforms to this system . And if so, what should that look like . So, what should that look like . And a small cumbrian town has hit out at plans to start turning houses essentially into bedshs turning houses essentially into bedsits to accommodate multiple Asylum Seekers. Im telling you, Asylum Seekers. Im telling you, there is a real industry now being spawned with massive, lucrative landlord contracts on offer. But at what cost lucrative landlord contracts on offer. But at what cost . And offer. But at what cost . And also, let me ask you, this would you ever go public if you won the lottery . I cant think of anything worse, but a uk couple today proudly declare they are now worth £61 million. When you want what you want to keep that kind of thing a secret or. Not