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Morning. Were going live to bournemouth morning. Were going live to bournemouth where g were going live to bournemouth where boris bournemouth where the Boris Johnson johnson backing conservative Democrat Johnson backing conservative democrat conference will start in an democrat conference will start in an hours democrat conference will start in an hours time democrat conference will start in an hours time. Democrat conference will start in an hours time. Well be in an hours time. Well be speaking in an hours time. Well be speaking conservative mp speaking to conservative mp andrea speaking to conservative mp Andrea Jenkyns speaking to conservative mp Andrea Jenkyns from there, owmpic Andrea Jenkyns from there, olympic champion sir Steve Redgrave olympic champion sir Steve Redgrave joins olympic champion sir Steve Redgrave joins us and opens up about redgrave joins us and opens up about his redgrave joins us and opens up about his depression after finding about his depression after finding ho about his depression after finding he had low testosterone levels finding he had low testosterone levels onu finding he had low testosterone levels and once finding he had low testosterone levels and once he found out he hou levels and once he found out he had depression, levels and once he found out he had depression, he levels and once he found out he had depression, he says men need to had depression, he says men need uo oom had depression, he says men need to talk moo had depression, he says men need to talk. Had depression, he says men need to talk more. Do had depression, he says men need to talk more. Do you had depression, he says men need to talk more. Jt had depression, he says men need to talk more. Jzt , to talk more. Do you think so. 7 no i to talk more. Do you think so . No i dont feel. But if you do, no i dont feel. But if you do, let us know. No i dont feel. But if you do, let us know. Is this the problem with men . They dont talk enough about their feelings. We dont talk because about their feelings. We dont talk because we about their feelings. We dont talkbecause we cantl talk enough because we cant get a talk enough because we cant get ooogouoyo. Talk enough because we cant get a edgeways. Usually a word in edgeways. Usually mooo a word in edgeways. Usually woosgood. A word in edgeways. Usually thats good. Anyway, thats why very good. Anyway, its thats why very good. Anyway, us your thats why very good. Anyway, its your revision thats why very good. Anyway, its your revision night. Liverpools its your revision night. Liverpools host of the singing contou liverpools host of the singing oouoooo. Liverpools host of the singing oouoooo. U liverpools host of the singing contest. If youve liverpools host of the singing contest. If youve been on contest. If youve been on ooouoo contest. If youve been on pounoo moro contest. If youve been on planet mars and realise planet mars and didnt realise moo sopho planet mars and didnt realisei that sophie reaper that our reporter sophie reaper is more that our reporter sophie reaper is more so that our reporter sophie reaper is there so we that our reporter sophie reaper is there so we dont miss anything is there so we dont miss anything. Speaking is there so we dont miss anything. Speaking to a anything. Are we speaking to a former you anything. Are we speaking to a former you knowi anything. Are we speaking to a former you know who former winner . And you know who use former winner . And you know who oooolouoro, former winner . And you know who elsethere, dont former winner . And you know who else there, dont you . My else is there, dont you . My uous else is there, dont you . My dads therei else is there, dont you . My. Dads there all dads there. Hes been there all week. Trust me, party city week. Trust me, its party city and as always, we want to hear from you. So get involved in the show. Email us at gbviews gbnews. Uk or tweet us at gb views gb news. But first, its gb views gb news. But first, wsfime gb views gb news. But first, its time for your headlines with rory. Thank you very much, with rory. Thank you very much, esther. With rory. Thank you very much, esther. Noo with rory. Thank you very much, esther. The latest with rory. Thank you very much, esther. The latest from . Ot 3 thank you very much, esther. The latest from the newsroom. A esther. The latest from the newsroom. A call has been made for o newsroom. A call has been made for o special newsroom. A call has been made for a special summit to bring an end for a special summit to bring an end oo for a special summit to bring an end to tho for a special summit to bring an end to the toxic for a special summit to bring an end to the toxic rail dispute. Rou end to the toxic rail dispute. Row uoou end to the toxic rail dispute. Rmt union boss end to the toxic rail dispute. Rmt union boss mick lynch has written rmt union boss mick lynch has written oo rmt union boss mick lynch has written to the rmt union boss mick lynch has written to the government ooouug written to the government ooouug for written to the government calling for a written to the government calling for a meeting with an independent calling for a meeting with an independent chair, if necessary, to end independent chair, if necessary, to end whoo independent chair, if necessary, to end what hes independent chair, if necessary, to end what hes described as choos to end what hes described as duo on to end what hes described as duo on tho to end what hes described as chaos on the railways. Well, it comes as passengers face yet another comes as passengers face yet another day comes as passengers face yet another day of comes as passengers face yet another day of disruption with worork another day of disruption with workers again another day of disruption with workers again joining picket uroo workers again joining picket uroo. Workers again joining picket lines. Further workers again joining picket lines. Further strikes are set lines. Further strikes are set to lines. Further strikes are set o oo lines. Further strikes are set o oo horo lines. Further strikes are set to be held on lines. Further strikes are set to be held on the 31st of may arro to be held on the 31st of may and uro to be held on the 31st of may and rrro ord to be held on the 31st of may and the 3rd of to be held on the 31st of may and the 3rd of june. Thats the day and the 3rd of june. Thats the day or and the 3rd of june. Thats the day of rho and the 3rd of june. Thats the day or rrro ro and the 3rd of june. Thats the day of the fa cup and the 3rd of june. Thats the day of the fa cup final at rromoroy day of the fa cup final at uremruoy. Day of the fa cup final at wembley. The day of the fa cup final at wembley. The unions general wembley. The unions general ooororory wembley. The unions general secretary blamed wembley. The unions general secretary blamed the government for forum; secretary blamed the government for rorrrug ro secretary blamed the government for failing to negotiate. T for failing to negotiate. This gororumour for failing to negotiate. This government is for failing to negotiate. This government is determined to keep this dispute going because theyve got issues in in health care and with the nurses and the doctors, with the teachers , and doctors, with the teachers, and theyre trying to clamp down on working peoples pay. So that they can transfer that wealth to they can transfer that wealth to the rich people of this society, where dividends and profits are up. Exchange is up, up. The Stock Exchange is up, the economy is growing. But they the economy is growing. But they want to do that on the basis of low pay. Were not prepared low pay. And were not prepared to that. Home owners are to accept that. Home owners are bourg to accept that. Home owners are being warned to accept that. Home owners are being warned theres home owners are being warned theres more morrgogo being warned theres more morrgogo porr being warned theres more mortgage pain to come from. The roosorurrou mortgage pain to come from. The Resolution Foundation found that the Resolution Foundation found that rrro growing Resolution Foundation found that the growing popularity of fixed rares the growing popularity of fixed roroo uro the growing popularity of fixed rates and longer the growing popularity of fixed rates and longer term deals wor rates and longer term deals means that many borrowers are yet means that many borrowers are woo ro means that many borrowers are wor ro soo means that many borrowers are wor ro wro means that many borrowers are yet to see the impact of rising rurorosr yet to see the impact of rising interest rates. Yet to see the impact of rising interest rates. Well, this week the interest rates. Well, this week rrro bork interest rates. Well, this week rrro book or interest rates. Well, this week the bank of england increased the bank of england increased rrro boso the bank of england increased the base rate the bank of england increased the base rate from 4. 25 to 4. 5. Proporw the base rate from 4. 25 to 4. 5. Rropoww ooporr the base rate from 4. 25 to 4. 5. Property expert Richard Blanco rom property expert Richard Blanco row us property expert Richard Blanco row us wro property expert Richard Blanco told us the market is slowing down. Told us the market is slowing down. Wo told us the market is slowing down. We have told us the market is slowing down. We have seen the market get down. We have seen the market go o down. We have seen the market go o urrro down. We have seen the market gor o urrro rur down. We have seen the market get a little bit more buoyant. Get a little bit more buoyant. Aru get a little bit more buoyant. And again. Get a little bit more buoyant. Aru agorw rrs get a little bit more buoyant. And again, its you get a little bit more buoyant. And again, its you know, get a little bit more buoyant. And again, its you know, its defying expectations because we did expect prices to fall anything between 5 and 12 this yeah anything between 5 and 12 this year. And the market doesnt seem to be suffering quite as badly as wed expected. So again, some surprises there. Of course , we know from the bank of course, we know from the bank of england that were not expecting to into recession this year to go into recession this year after all. And thats one of the reasons why the bank of england is still putting rates up. Is still putting rates up. Britains Defence Ministry says Russian Forces have withdrawn from their positions in southern bakhmut in bad order. The withdrawal over the t jut the withdrawal over the last four days withdrawal over the last four days ros withdrawal over the last four days has seen withdrawal over the last four days has seen ukraine regain at roosr days has seen ukraine regain at roosr o days has seen ukraine regain at least a kilometre days has seen ukraine regain at least a kilometre of territory. Woso least a kilometre of territory. Woso ros least a kilometre of territory. Moscow has acknowledged that its roros moscow has acknowledged that its roros havo moscow has acknowledged that its forces have fallen moscow has acknowledged that its forces have fallen back after a new Ukrainian Forces have fallen back after a new ukrainian offensive. Rrosroour new ukrainian offensive. President Vladimir Zelenskyy sows president Vladimir Zelenskyy sowsrrro president Vladimir Zelenskyy says the country president Vladimir Zelenskyy says the country has to keep prossrug says the country has to keep pressing russian says the country has to keep pressing russian advances and oromrsoo pressing russian advances and promrsoo moro pressing russian advances and promised more weapons to his sororors promised more weapons to his sororors. Promised more weapons to his soldiers. The promised more weapons to his soldiers. The government has soldiers. The government has oorouooo soldiers. The government has defended sat soldiers. The government has defended sat tests , saying defended sat tests, saying wowro defended sat tests, saying theyre supposed to be challenging theyre supposed to be challenging for year six sruoours. Challenging for year six students. Well, it comes after uuuoroos students. Well, it comes after rrurroroos or students. 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The National Association of head rooorrors the National Association of head rooorrors roos the National Association of head teachers has also the National Association of head teachers has also raised concerns and teachers has also raised concerns and plans to take the rssuo concerns and plans to take the up concerns and plans to take the up wrou concerns and plans to take the issue up with the concerns and plans to take the issue up with the schools roguooror issue up with the schools regulator off issue up with the schools regulator off quail self testing kits regulator off quail self testing us for regulator off quail self testing kits for hepatitis regulator off quail self testing kits for hepatitis c are now oworoouoo kits for hepatitis c are now available from kits for hepatitis c are now available from the nhs in rugrouo. Available from the nhs in england. The available from the nhs in england. The free service is in proso england. The free service is in orooo for england. 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Ahead of tonights final in liverpool, a orohoo tonights final in liverpool, a global audience tonights final in liverpool, a global audience of 160 Million Viewers are expected to tune in to viewers are expected to tune in o soo viewers are expected to tune in o zo viewers are expected to tune in o zo oors viewers are expected to tune in to see 26 acts perform at the hos to see 26 acts perform at the hos hohh to see 26 acts perform at the M S Bank Arena. To see 26 acts perform at the M S Bank Arena. The uk agreed to hosr M S Bank Arena. The uk agreed to hosr rho M S Bank Arena. The uk agreed to host the contest M S Bank Arena. The uk agreed to host the contest on M S Bank Arena. The uk agreed to host the contest on behalf of ooso host the contest on behalf of rosr woors host the contest on behalf of last years winners, ukraine. Aoosho last years winners, ukraine. Alesha dixon, last years winners, ukraine. Alesha dixon, Hannah Waddingham and alesha dixon, Hannah Waddingham oho orohorh alesha dixon, Hannah Waddingham and Graham Norton alesha dixon, Hannah Waddingham and Graham Norton are all in the hosrho and Graham Norton are all in the hosrho rho and Graham Norton are all in the hosrhg hho up and Graham Norton are all in the hosrhg hho up. And Graham Norton are all in the hosting line up. This is gb hosting line up. This is gb wows. Hosting line up. This is gb wows. Wou hosting line up. This is gb news. Well bring you more as it hoppohs news. Well bring you more as it hoppohs. Wow, news. Well bring you more as it happens. Now, though, back to osrhor happens. Now, though, back to osrhor ooo happens. Now, though, back to esther and phil happens. Now, though, back to esther and phil up. Esther and phil up. |rhohhs. Esther and phil up. Thanks, rory. I esther and phil up. I. Thanks, rory. Now esther and phil up. Thanks, rory. Now the boris backing democrat backing conservative Democrat Organisation is holding its first Conference Today in bournemouth. Lord cruddas, prorrw bournemouth. Lord cruddas, ororrw horor bournemouth. Lord cruddas, pretty patel and lord cruddas, pretty patel and Jacob Rees Mogg are pretty patel and Jacob Rees Mogg orhohgsr pretty patel and Jacob Rees Mogg are amongst those pretty patel and Jacob Rees Mogg are amongst those who will be giving are amongst those who will be giving how are amongst those who will be giving key speeches throughout the giving key speeches throughout rho devo giving key speeches throughout rho davr ooo giving key speeches throughout the day, and were pleased to be joined jenkins. The day, and were pleased to be rohoo rohhhs ol joined now by Andrea Jenkins, cohsorworwo joined now by Andrea Jenkins, conservative mp joined now by Andrea Jenkins, conservative mp for morley and eurwooo conservative mp for morley and ourwooo , conservative mp for morley and ourwooo , who conservative mp for morley and outwood , who will also be outwood, who will also be shohg outwood, who will also be shohglrho outwood, who will also be singing the conference. I singing at the conference. I uhoorsroho, singing at the conference. I understand, andrea, which understand, and andrea, which wru understand, and andrea, which who oohohow understand, and andrea, which will certainly be understand, and andrea, which will certainly be a highlight. Hoo will certainly be a highlight. How ho will certainly be a highlight. Itll be better will certainly be a highlight. Itll be better than what you hoor itll be better than what you heareurovision itll be better than what you hear eurovision tonight. Hear on eurovision tonight. Rhors hear on eurovision tonight. Rhorsror hear on eurovision tonight. Thatsfor sure. Hear on eurovision tonight. Thats for sure. Hear on eurovision tonight. Thatsfor sure. Some thats certainly for sure. Some people thats certainly for sure. Some poopoo mrghr thats certainly for sure. Some people might not know that andrea was an opera singer. Absolutely a professional shoor absolutely a professional shoor. Aho absolutely a professional singer. And very atlas a professional singer. And very and very good. Sho singer. And very and very good. Sho rs singer. And very and very good. Sho rs ooo. Singer. And very and very good. She is, tooandrea singer. And very and very good. She is, too. Andrea , can she is, too. Now, andrea, can you she is, too. Now, andrea, can wouoor she is, too. Now, andrea, can wouror us she is, too. Now, andrea, can youlet us know she is, too. Now, andrea, can you let us know and our you just let us know and our woworsuroso op viewers know, whats the purpose of viewers know, whats the purpose oroohsoworwo viewers know, whats the purpose of conservative democratic of the conservative democratic oroohrsorroho of the conservative Democratic Organisation . Because to people horo organisation . Because to people fromoursroo organisation . Because to people fromoursroo , organisation . Because to people from outside , it organisation . Because to people from outside , it seems like from the outside, it seems like an organisation from the outside, it seems like an organisation that hasnt rooohohoo an organisation that hasnt reconciled itself to the fact rhor reconciled itself to the fact rhor hous reconciled itself to the fact that Boris Johnson is no longer rumo that Boris Johnson is no longer Prime Minister, that Boris Johnson is no longer Prime Minister, wants to uhororhho Prime Minister, wants to undermine rishi sunak at every opporruhrrw undermine rishi sunak at every opporruhrrw ooo undermine rishi sunak at every opportunity and replace him with hous opportunity and replace him with Boris Johnson opportunity and replace him with Boris Johnson again. Is that a for Boris Johnson again. Is that a for ohorwsrs Boris Johnson again. Is that a fair analysis of Boris Johnson again. Is that a fair analysis of what the conservative fair analysis of what the conservative Democrat Organisation conservative Democrat Organisation is. Not \ t conservative Democrat Organisation is. Not not really. Organisation is. Not not really. Rhu organisation is. Not not really. Phil and yes, so its good to speak to you both. Really. Its i mean, weve seen numbers go right down with membership and i mean, theres clearly frustration among members. Im sure as mps you get it yourself. Thats where they they elected David Cameron to be the party leader. They didnt get a vote over theresa may. It was mps who decided they finally got a vote to vote for boris. Decided they finally got a vote to vote for boris. Then they to vote for boris. Then they voted for liz and the mps ousted those two. So clearly members are going to be frustrated , but are going to be frustrated, but its actually goes beyond that. This is about re engaging members. I this is about re engaging members. I mean, im sure you both remember the days of Party Conference where members used to stand up and be able to speak from the audience. Yes. And its from the audience. Yes. And its about re engaging members. Thats the key focus about it, because ive heard the words take back control and i wonder, you know, thats on the website. Thats what its meant to be. Rho thats what its meant to be. The members thats what its meant to be. The members having a say. But poooro the members having a say. But poopoo wru the members having a say. But people will question is that ohour people will question is that ohour rhor people will question is that about that or people will question is that about that or are you wanting to rmooso about that or are you wanting to rrhposo pohow about that or are you wanting to rrhposo pohow. About that or are you wanting to rrhposo pohow. Oh about that or are you wanting to impose policy. On the leaders of impose policy. On the leaders of the impose policy. On the leaders of rho homomo impose policy. On the leaders of the moment . What impose policy. On the leaders of the moment . What is it then this rohho the moment . What is it then this rohhg hook the moment . What is it then this taking back control the moment . What is it then this taking back control of what of whom taking back control of what of whom ooo taking back control of what of whom oho whw taking back control of what of whom and why . Taking back control of what of whom and why . Well, its as i whom and why . Well, its as i soro whom and why . Well, its as i soro, osrhor whom and why . Well, its as i said, esther, its whom and why . Well, its as i said, esther, its about oohooroow said, esther, its about democracy within the party. t . Democracy within the party. You know democracy within the party. You know. Democracy within the party. You know. R democracy within the party. You know. R moor. Democracy within the party. You know , i mean, come democracy within the party. You know , i mean, come rain democracy within the party. t . Democracy within the party. You know , i mean, come rain or shine know, i mean, come rain or shine and in snow. Joe, in the 2019 election, the Party Activist was out campaigning for all three of us. And for all mps. And we really couldnt do with without them. They are the heart and soul of our conservative party and really, its also about they would like to see a democratically elected chairman and they would also like to see that members are also at the heart of the party, which which i think they should be. I mean, when rishi sunak took over , i when rishi sunak took over, i think the conservative party were about 30 over 30 points behind in the opinion polls. Its now around about 15 or so. Do its now around about 15 or so. No wou its now around about 15 or so. No wou rhhh its now around about 15 or so. Do you think thats good progrosso do you think thats Good Progress . Do do you think thats Good Progress . Do you think rishi suhoh progress . Do you think rishi suhoh rs progress . Do you think rishi sunak is doing progress . Do you think rishi sunak is doing a good job or wouro sunak is doing a good job or wouoo wou sunak is doing a good job or would you like sunak is doing a good job or would you like to see him rooroooo would you like to see him ropooooo ow would you like to see him replaced by Boris Johnson again . Replaced by Boris Johnson again 7 r replaced by Boris Johnson again 7 r mom replaced by Boris Johnson again 7 r r replaced by Boris Johnson again . I mean i mean replaced by Boris Johnson again . I mean i mean , replaced by Boris Johnson again . I mean i mean , if replaced by Boris Johnson again . I mean i mean , if we replaced by Boris Johnson again . I mean i mean, if we look when bofis . I mean i mean, if we look when boris was first ousted, the figures is are not that different to where rishi is now. Some weeks it was slightly better. But i. Some weeks it was slightly better. But i mean,. Some weeks it was slightly better. But i mean, look,. Some weeks it was slightly better. But i mean, look, im a big advocate of democracy. This is why i fought so hard for brexit. And we see we saw so many people in Parliament Cross party trying to thwart that. And i think that it was wrong what mps did to oust the two leaders who the Party Members voted for. Thats the personal opinion of mine. Andrea jenkins i want to mine. Andrea jenkins i want to mom mine. Andrea jenkins i want to hook wou mine. Andrea jenkins i want to mom wou worw Andrea Jenkins i want to thank you very much for joining us his thank you very much for joining us this morning. Thank you very much for joining us this morning. I thank you very much for joining us this morning. I also think his us this morning. I also think his whw us this morning. I also think this rikki neave us this morning. I also think this rikki neave action with the rubric this rikki neave action with the ouhho rs this rikki neave action with the public is vital this rikki neave action with the public is vital for this rikki neave action with the public is vital for all oohrroor public is vital for all political parties. Thats what political parties. Thats what its political parties. Thats what hs ohour. Political parties. Thats what its about. Its political parties. Thats what its about. Its about serving rho its about. Its about serving rho puhho its about. Its about serving the public. And its about. Its about serving the public. And i its about. Its about serving the public. And i wish you well. Sayr the public. And i wish you well. Savr whor the public. And i wish you well. Sayr whor oro the public. And i wish you well. Say, what are you the public. And i wish you well. Say, what are you singing . Whor. Say, what are you singing . What actually. Say, what are you singing . What actually will you be singing what actually will you be singing later . What actually will you be singing later . I know its a ooro singing later . I know its a gala dimor singing later . I know its a gala dinner. Are singing later . I know its a gala dinner. Are you singing at rhor gala dinner. Are you singing at rhoro gala dinner. Are you singing at rhoro wou. Gala dinner. Are you singing at that . Well, im gala dinner. Are you singing at that . Witt got g gala dinner. Are you singing at that . Got g t that . Well, im going to open the conference singing god save the conference singing god save the king. Ive had a sore throat all week, so ive been on throat lozenges. Esther so an ive got my little clifford with me who will be in the audience, which would be really lovely having mummy and clifford time this weekend oh, well thank mummy and clifford time this wee ford oh, well thank mummy and clifford time this wee for joining oh, well thank mummy and clifford time this weeforjoining us. Oh, well thank mummy and clifford time this wee for joining us. Watch ell thank mummy and clifford time this weeforjoining us. Watch out hank you for joining us. Watch out for thor you for joining us. Watch out for that throat. You for joining us. Watch out for that throat. Good luck. Rhohh for that throat. Good luck. Rhomh wou. For that throat. Good luck. Thank you. Now into interestingly there youve got cororo interestingly there youve got Carole Malone interestingly there youve got Carole Malone with us. Weve got choro Carole Malone with us. Weve got Claire Muldoon Carole Malone with us. Weve got Claire Muldoon with us. Interestingly Claire Muldoon with us. Interestingly what andrew was sowmo interestingly what andrew was sowmg ooour interestingly what andrew was saying about connecting with the momohrs saying about connecting with the momohrs rs saying about connecting with the members is about saying about connecting with the members is about taking back oomroh members is about taking back oomroh hur members is about taking back control. But a members is about taking back control. But a lot members is about taking back control. But a lot of the papers rooow control. But a lot of the papers rooow oro control. But a lot of the papers today are filled control. But a lot of the papers today are filled with is a spurs today are filled with is a splits within today are filled with is a splits within the conservative party splits within the conservative rohw. Splits within the conservative rohw. Wru splits within the conservative party. Will this splits within the conservative party. Will this really engage party. Will this really engage poooro party. Will this really engage poopoo or party. Will this really engage poopoo or who party. Will this really engage people or will this be the start of rho people or will this be the start of the crumbling people or will this be the start of the crumbling of the conservative of the crumbling of the conservative party into factions . Conservative party into factions . Witt conservative party into factions . Well, you know , pretty factions . Well, you know, pretty is going to have a go with rishi. Basically, shes going to say pretty as a speaker today at that conference. Patel is the speaker going speaker today and shes going to be go at rishi. And, be having a go at rishi. And, you know, rightly so. Theres a camilla gb is at Camilla Tominey gb news is at vera Camilla Tominey did vera baird. Camilla tominey did a piece in the a very interested piece in the telegraph saying you telegraph today saying that, you know maintaining know, rishi is maintaining the status quo, which is not going to win election. Shes saying to win an election. Shes saying that, if did that, you know, if he did Something Like brave, like, you know, inheritance tax know, abolishing inheritance tax and revived brexit and if and a few revived brexit and if he did what he said, which was like, know, our like, you know, you know, our laws , you know, enforce our laws, you know, enforce our laws, you know, enforce our laws, the eu laws, laws, get rid of the eu laws, then grassroots members then the grassroots members would have something to hang on to. Currently, they dont because really doing because hes not really doing anything that appeals them. Anything that appeals to them. So is a dig at him. So this is this is a dig at him. And, know , camilla was and, you know, camilla was right. Is not going right. Status quo is not going to win an election. He needs to do something to get the do something major to get the grassroots members and the british people onside. And so far, we know were seeing him move , little steps. But move little, little steps. But its not enough. Its got a year left. Claire, do you do you its not enough. Its got a year left. Thisire, do you do you its not enough. Its got a year left. Thisire,aboutru do you its not enough. Its got a year left. Thisire,about policy ou its not enough. Its got a year left. Thisire,about policy or do think this is about policy or do you think this is about policy or do wou rhmh think this is about policy or do wou think its think this is about policy or do you think its about personality . Its about personal worrw personality . Its about personal worrwr personality . Its about personal worrwr moom personality . Its about personal mottyi mean, you. Personality . Its about personal motty i mean, you know motty because, i mean, you know loooroororo motty because, i mean, you know looproororo thor motty because, i mean, you know , appreciate that lots of , i, i appreciate that lots of rhoso , i, i appreciate that lots of rhoso poopoo , i, i appreciate that lots of these people dont agree with wrrh these people dont agree with with hrshr these people dont agree with with rishi sunaks agenda. And i with rishi sunaks agenda. And i and with rishi sunaks agenda. And i omo r with rishi sunaks agenda. And i omo r oh with rishi sunaks agenda. And i omo r ouho with rishi sunaks agenda. And i and i can quite understand that. Hur and i can quite understand that. Our rhoso and i can quite understand that. But these people and i can quite understand that. But these people are the utmost. But these people are the biggest cheerleaders for Boris Johnson biggest cheerleaders for Boris Johnson. Biggest cheerleaders for Boris Johnson. Amo biggest cheerleaders for Boris Johnson. And in biggest cheerleaders for Boris Johnson. And in terms what johnson. And in terms of what hous johnson. And in terms of what Boris Johnson johnson. And in terms of what Boris Johnson did johnson. And in terms of what Boris Johnson did when he was rumo Boris Johnson did when he was homoomo Boris Johnson did when he was rrrmooho. , Boris Johnson did when he was rrrmooho. , r Boris Johnson did when he was prime and i, i voted Prime Minister and i, i voted forjohnson Prime Minister and i, i voted forjohnson to Prime Minister and i, i voted for johnson to leader for Boris Johnson to be leader of for Boris Johnson to be leader or rorrwl for Boris Johnson to be leaderi or rorrw. Our, of the conservative party. But, you of the conservative party. But, you, of the conservative party. But, your ho of the conservative party. But, your hooo of the conservative party. But, you, hedo anything you know, he didnt do anything ohour you know, he didnt do anything ooour oorrmo you know, he didnt do anything about getting rid you know, he didnt do anything about getting rid of all the eu roromoo about getting rid of all the eu retained law about getting rid of all the eu retained law in about getting rid of all the eu retained law in all the time he moro retained law in all the time he rhoro. Ho retained law in all the time he was there. He spent money as if it was there. He spent money as if h our was there. He spent money as if h our or was there. He spent money as if h our ofandl it was going out of fashion and rooting it was going out of fashion and rooomg ro it was going out of fashion and oooomg ro roo it was going out of fashion and leading to tax rises and all the rosr leading to tax rises and all the rosr or leading to tax rises and all the rosr of h. Leading to tax rises and all the rosr of h. R leading to tax rises and all the rest of it. I didnt leading to tax rises and all the rest of it. I didnt really see him rest of it. I didnt really see him oursumg rest of it. I didnt really see him pursuing him, pursuing the ooomoo him pursuing him, pursuing the ogomoo thor him pursuing him, pursuing the agenda that theyre arguing for whom agenda that theyre arguing for whom ho agenda that theyre arguing for whom ho hoo agenda that theyre arguing for when he had the agenda that theyre arguing for when he had the chance. So is his when he had the chance. So is this moro when he had the chance. So is this more about when he had the chance. So is this more about them not liking hrshr this more about them not liking hrshr rorhor this more about them not liking rishi rather than this more about them not liking rishi rather than a policy . I oormhorw rishi rather than a policy . I definitely think rishi rather than a policy . I definitely think that and a oouoro definitely think that and a ooupro or definitely think that and a couple of things that andrea momhohoo mentioned there about, you know, an mentioned there about, you know, ohoorrmohh mentioned there about, you know, anchairman. Ithoughtl an elected chairman. I thought orohom an elected chairman. I thought graham how graham brady was elected. How did the chairman graham brady was elected. How did conservative he chairman graham brady was elected. How did conservative party . Rman graham brady was elected. How did conservative party . Thats the conservative party . Thats a 1922 committee separate right . 1922 committee separate right . So the chairman, the chairman of the conservative so the chairman, the chairman of the conservative party, which is erog the conservative party, which is greg homos the conservative party, which is greg homos wou the conservative party, which is greg hands you know, they keep going greg hands you know, they keep gomolohour greg hands you know, they keep going about democracy and going on about democracy and how going on about democracy and mowtomo going on about democracy and rhowgomo om going on about democracy and they going on well andrea they keep going on well andrea romhms jenkins and bring back boris oomporom jenkins and bring back boris oomporomrho jenkins and bring back Boris Campaign the reality is that campaign but the reality is that hotsho campaign but the reality is that hrshr hosmr campaign but the reality is that rishi hasnt done campaign but the reality is that rishi hasnt done anything ohroromrw rishi hasnt done anything differently massively from when hous differently massively from when horrs os differently massively from when horrs m differently massively from when boris was in charge and, you know, boris was in charge and, you know hrshr boris was in charge and, you know, rishi was boris was in charge and, you know, rishi was democratically woroo know, rishi was democratically wood to know, rishi was democratically wood to os know, rishi was democratically voted in as pm know, rishi was democratically voted in as pm with all the sheban9r voted in as pm with all the shooomg, rho voted in as pm with all the shebang, the shenanigans of liz muss shebang, the shenanigans of liz truss, etcetera, shebang, the shenanigans of liz truss, etcetera, etcetera. It truss, etcetera, etcetera. It or truss, etcetera, etcetera. It comes at a dangerous time, ooosmr comes at a dangerous time, ooosmr h comes at a dangerous time, ooosmr h o comes at a dangerous time, doesnt it . Youve had the local doesnt it . Youve had the local oooorrom doesnt it . Youve had the local election result doesnt it . Youve had the local election result werent good at all election result werent good at or for election result werent good at or for rho election result werent good at all for the conservative party, ooso all for the conservative party, rosr o all for the conservative party, lost a thousand all for the conservative party, lost a thousand seats. And then wouo lost a thousand seats. And then wouworho lost a thousand seats. And then youve the article lost a thousand seats. And then youve the article today by youve got the article today by amorow youve got the article today by amorow worr youve got the article today by andrew neil in youve got the article today by andrew neil in the mail saying you andrew neil in the mail saying wou oowo andrew neil in the mail saying you could have andrew neil in the mail saying you could have a andrew neil in the mail saying you could have a pact now with oohour you could have a pact now with oohour , you could have a pact now with oohour , whh you could have a pact now with labour , with lib you could have a pact now with labour , with lib dems because it labour, with lib dems because it oso labour, with lib dems because it wasnt so brilliant labour, with lib dems because it wasnt so brilliant for labour thor wasnt so brilliant for labour rhor rhow wasnt so brilliant for labour that they were wasnt so brilliant for labour that they were going to have a hoor that they were going to have a blair landslide. That they were going to have a blair landslide. That be blair landslide. That could be it. Blair landslide. That could be h. Aho blair landslide. That could be to. Who this blair landslide. That could be it. And thisbe it. And this could be the orogosr it. And this could be the biggest danger now is the left in biggest danger now is the left m rorowor biggest danger now is the left to rorowor. Biggest danger now is the left in forever. If biggest danger now is the left in forever. If this biggest danger now is the left in forever. If this goes ahead, rhors in forever. If this goes ahead, rhors rho in forever. If this goes ahead, thats the scenario that andrew worr thats the scenario that andrew wou rs thats the scenario that andrew hot is pushing thats the scenario that andrew neil is pushing today. V t . Neil is pushing today. You know, hos neil is pushing today. You know, hos sayingr neil is pushing today. You know, hes saying, you know, its not long that keir starmer was long ago that keir starmer was saying he wouldnt a lib, a pact with the lib dems was unthinkable. Now hes suddenly saying could the cards saying it could be on the cards because because he realised he thought elections were because because he realised he thougito elections were because because he realised he thougito worseelections were because because he realised he thougito worse for tions were because because he realised he thougito worse for theis were because because he realised he thougito worse for the tories going to be worse for the tories in the worm. Its bad enough, but he thought theyre going to be now doesnt see be worse and now he doesnt see him outright. He, him winning outright. He he, he, i personally i think he personally believes hes win hes still going to win outright, has to make outright, but he has to make plans here. Ed outright, but he has to make plans has here. Ed outright, but he has to make plans has said here. Ed outright, but he has to make plans has said heshere. Ed outright, but he has to make plans has said hes willingi davey has said hes willing to work him. The trouble for work with him. The trouble for the tories is, you know, if they dont if they dont win outright, if they dont win outright, if they dont working majority, dont have a working majority, the dems will not do deal the lib dems will not do a deal with because theyve got with them because theyve got done last time with done over the last time with cameron, into cameron, they went into political oblivion and the tories went on. So nick clegg even lost his seat. Nick clegg lost even lost his seat. Nick clegg rosr hrs even lost his seat. Nick clegg lost his but also, you lost his seat. But also, you know, welsh nationalists, lost his seat. But also, you kno scottish elsh nationalists, lost his seat. But also, you kno scottish elsh naticthey ts, the scottish national, they dont to business with dont want to do business with the tories. They hate it. Not many do. And the the tories. They hate it. Not. Manydo. And the thing the tories. They hate it. Not manydo. And the thing is many people do. And the thing is thor many people do. And the thing is ho ho many people do. And the thing is ho ho uh many people do. And the thing is that the lib dems many people do. And the thing is that the lib dems havent had a wow that the lib dems havent had a wow good that the lib dems havent had a wow oooo rrmo that the lib dems havent had a very good time of that the lib dems havent had a very good time of it politically. Very good time of it politically. I mean, whose roooors politically. I mean, whose leaders are politically. I mean, whose leaders are tim fallon . Thats a rotor leaders are tim fallon . Thats a roooorlrho leaders are tim fallon . Thats a leaderthe lib leaders are tim fallon . Thats a leader the lib dems. Can leader of the lib dems. You can hororw oooorrw leader of the lib dems. You can barelyexactly. Leader of the lib dems. You can. Barelyexactly. Thats barely remember exactly. Thats the barely remember exactly. Thats rhogoing barely remember exactly. Thats rhogoing ro barely remember exactly. Thats rhogoing o oo the point im going to do a shout here to our viewers. Shout out here to our viewers. What you think . Could this be what do you think . Could this be theyve to the in party theyve got to stop the in party fighting the conservative party because could because otherwise you could have a lib lab pact forever. But Something Different. Something completely different. And that eurovision song and that is the Eurovision Song Contest. What do you think of the uk sunak . Listen to seb oowo the uk sunak . Listen to seb gorka jenkins the uk sunak . Listen to seb gorka jenkins. The uk sunak . Listen to seb gorka jenkins. Hes , listen to seb gorka jenkins. t; gorka jenkins. Hes just so disinterested in this. Isnt he . He really doesnt want us to talk about this. I just think this is, you know, liverpool has its revitalised eurovision, you know , we used to sneer at it know, we used to sneer at it before and actually the committee that organises this european used to think we sneered at the fact its being set in liverpool. They cant believe how great it is. Its not just about music. This is about culture. There are exhibitions everywhere. Theres war photography, exhibition runs. Itsjust war photography, exhibition runs. Its just its incredible and i think it is going to revive it. The german theres revive it. The german theres a guy called wolfgang whose name ive but they call ive forgotten, but they call him mr eurovision. Says this him mr eurovision. He says this is going to be the best eurovision ever theres ever been. We know our being been. Now we know our being represented may mueller, who represented by may mueller, who , read my column , if anyones read my column today, not today, well know. Im not a fan. A woman who said fan. This is a woman who said she britain. She wants to she hates britain. She wants to get out of britain. She wants to she hates britain. She wants to getand of britain. She wants to she hates britain. She wants to getand live. Ritain. She wants to she hates britain. She wants to getand live. Ritairwants wants to she hates britain. She wants to getand live. Ritairwants waiget to go and live. She wants to get german and live in german citizenship and live in spain. Despite the fact that spain. And despite the fact that britain, the uk , has given a britain, the uk, has given a massive boost to her non existent career, that was before. But shes this is before anyway. But shes this is also the woman who said she didnt think boris should get a bed during covid. I mean, just and weve got this woman representing us. Im not keen on that. Representing us. Im not keen on that. However, representing us. Im not keen on that. However, am representing us. Im not keen on that. However, am very keen on that. However, i am very keen on the contest. But will you watch it . The contest. But will you watch ho coror the contest. But will you watch ho coror oos. The contest. But will you watch it . Carol yes, i t but will you watch it . Carol v t;~; a and will it . Carol yes, i will. And will you it . Carol yes, i will. And will wou ho it . Carol yes, i will. And will wou ho who it . Carol yes, i will. And will wou to who wou it . Carol yes, i will. And will you be will you be it . Carol v t;~; up and will you be will you be supporting moo you be will you be supporting moo wuohor you be will you be supporting me . Mueller ill you be will you be supporting me . Mueller ill be supporting you be will you be supporting me. Ukueller ill be supporting you be will you be supporting me. Uk ,aller ill be supporting you be will you be supporting me. Uk , but ill be supporting you be will you be supporting me. Uk , but also be supporting you be will you be supporting me. Uk , but also illiupporting you be will you be supporting me. Uk , but also ill be jorting the uk, but also ill be summing the uk, but also ill be supporting ukraine, obviously. Amu supporting ukraine, obviously. Who zooomshww supporting ukraine, obviously. And zelenskyy wanted supporting ukraine, obviously. And zelenskyy wanted to supporting ukraine, obviously. And zelenskyy wanted to speak before the contest, which i love. Zelenskyy hes a hero of mine. However he couldnt be allowed to speak because one, it breaks the political rules that surround the contract, the contest. But also hed make a plea for weapons, which is not what its all. And not only moo, what its all. And not only rhor, wo what its all. And not only that, we had what its all. And not only that, we had a what its all. And not only that, we had a poll e and not only that, we had a poll and it was who that, we had a poll and it was hho oowo that, we had a poll and it was hho oowo or that, we had a poll and it was like 67 of the that, we had a poll and it was like 67 of the public didnt wom like 67 of the public didnt wom hrm like 67 of the public didnt want him making an announcement and want him making an announcement omo oooross want him making an announcement and address rishi want him making an announcement and address rishi sunak why shouro and address rishi sunak why should carol and address rishi sunak why should carol or and address rishi sunak why should carol or anybody arnie supooh should carol or anybody arnie supporr hoo should carol or anybody arnie support mae muller if they woroho support mae muller if they woroho wo support mae muller if they watch . No, not support mae muller if they watch . No, not watch. But why shouro watch . No, not watch. But why shouro rhowo watch . No, not watch. But why should they . If watch . No, not watch. But why should they . If she said she ooosmr should they . If she said she doesnt like should they . If she said she doesnt like britain . T doesnt like britain . This was throe doesnt like britain . This was three woors doesnt like britain . This was three years ago. Shes a young girl. Shes a young girl. She shouldnt be g 1 g g 1 she shouldnt be representing the ooumrw shouldnt be representing the ooumrw sho shouldnt be representing the country she doesnt like and woms country she doesnt like and womsour. Country she doesnt like and wantsout. Listen, country she doesnt like and wantsout. Listen, look wants to move out. Listen, look at rishi. Look at boris. Are they representing the country at rishi. Look at boris. Are they theyzsenting the country at rishi. Look at boris. Are they they actuallythe country at rishi. Look at boris. Are they they actually like . untry at rishi. Look at boris. Are they they actually like . What that they actually like . What are they doing to help the country . Doing . Country . What are they doing . What are doing to help the what are they doing to help the country that theyre actually running . Carol. Claire running . Carol. Sorry claire omor running . Carol. Sorry claire omor howo running . Carol. Sorry claire cannot have that. t tg . carol. Sorry claire cannot have that. These are two ooopro cannot have that. These are two poopoo hoo cannot have that. These are two people whove given their whole life people whove given their whole rho oo people whove given their whole life over boris people whove given their whole life over boris and people whove given their whole life over boris and rishi to the ooumrw. Life over boris and rishi to the ooumrw. Ho. Life over boris and rishi to the country. No, theyve life over boris and rishi to the country. \ot g country. No, theyve given their lives power. Youre lives over to power. Youre talking. Theyve given theyve lives over to power. Youre talkintheirheyve given theyve lives over to power. Youre talkintheir livese given theyve lives over to power. Youre talkintheir lives overen theyve lives over to power. Youre talkintheir lives over to theyve lives over to power. Youre talkintheir lives over to power. Given their lives over to power. And back to and this, again, is back to personality supporting. Then, personality supporting. Then, will not even going to personality supporting. Then, will it. Not even going to personality supporting. Then, will it. I not even going to personality supporting. Then, will it. I dontt even going to personality supporting. Then, will it. I dontt even goiit. To watch it. I dont even like it. Well done. The best on that. The well done. The best on that. The best about eurovision for well done. The best on that. The besis about eurovision for well done. The best on that. The besis rylan bout eurovision for well done. The best on that. The besis rylan and eurovision for well done. The best on that. The besis rylan and iurovision for well done. The best on that. The besis rylan and i lovesion for well done. The best on that. The besis rylan and i love rylan. � me is rylan and i love rylan. Oh, please. Id sooner aukus on everything. Id sooner watch. He deserves it. Hes brilliant. This way we dont know who were mooossorhw this way we dont know who were necessarily tonight. This way we dont know who were nec< ill rily tonight. This way we dont know who were necelll telltonight. This way we dont know who were necelll tell you tonight. This way we dont know who were necelll tell you one tonight. This way we dont know who were necelll tell you one person ht. This way we dont know who were necelll tell you one person im but ill tell you one person im ohsorurorw but ill tell you one person im absolutely supporting and this is absolutely supporting and this rslrho absolutely supporting and this rslrho rrmos absolutely supporting and this is the times today. Locals is in the times today. Locals showroo is in the times today. Locals are staying tight is in the times today. Locals are staying tight lipped after wohomo are staying tight lipped after vigilante fills are staying tight lipped after vigilante fills in cornwalls mosh vigilante fills in cornwalls most perilous vigilante fills in cornwalls most perilous pothole. So this rho most perilous pothole. So this was the biggest most perilous pothole. So this was the biggest pothole in comwoh. Was the biggest pothole in cornwall. The was the biggest pothole in cornwall. The road has been orosoo cornwall. The road has been orosoo hor cornwall. The road has been closed for over cornwall. The road has been closed for over a cornwall. The road has been closed for over a month. So closed for over a month. So somohoow closed for over a month. So somebody went closed for over a month. So somebody went out , took it upon somebody went out, took it upon rhomsowos somebody went out, took it upon themselves because the highways oooohmom themselves because the Highways Department hadnt themselves because the Highways Department hadnt done it to Fill Department hadnt done it to our to department hadnt done it to our to m. Department hadnt done it to fill it in. But department hadnt done it to fill it in. But theyre trying to fill it in. But theyre trying ro rho fill it in. But theyre trying ro rho our fill it in. But theyre trying to find out who fill it in. But theyre trying to find out who this person is. Rhowwo to find out who this person is. Theyve closed to find out who this person is. Theyve closed the road back up ogorm theyve closed the road back up ogorm sowing, theyve closed the road back up again, saying, well, look, its mor again, saying, well, look, its moo rwmol again, saying, well, look, itsi hoo rrwmg ro not safe and theyre trying to tho rooor| find who it is, but the local oommumrw find who it is, but the local community keeping tight community are keeping tight Lipped Community are keeping tight lipped oo community are keeping tight lipped ro community are keeping tight lipped over to me. He is my hero of rho lipped over to me. He is my hero of rho oow. Lipped over to me. He is my hero of rho oow. Oor lipped over to me. He is my hero of the day. Get him lipped over to me. He is my hero of the day. Get him on the eurovision of the day. Get him on the eurovision song of the day. Get him on the Eurovision Song Contest. trtt Eurovision Song Contest. But can i Eurovision Song Contest. But can rtusr Eurovision Song Contest. But can rtusr momhor Eurovision Song Contest. But can i just mention this . I want to give a shout out to richmond council. Road 185 potholes in council. My road 185 potholes in my road. They came, they said three of them were the required depth of two millimetres to fill them in, so they brought a truckload of tar. They filled in three out of 185. I mean, its just one. Then drove away , drove just one. Then drove away, drove owow just one. Then drove away, drove owow omo just one. Then drove away, drove owow omo horr just one. Then drove away, drove away and left the then drove away, drove away and left the other 170 de whorowor away and left the other 170 de whorowor h away and left the other 170 de whatever it is, away and left the other 170 de whatever it is, there. Well, whatever it is, there. Well, rh whatever it is, there. Well, rh rou whatever it is, there. Well, oh how wou whatever it is, there. Well, ill tell you something. What we pay ill tell you something. What we pay in ill tell you something. What we row to ur ill tell you something. What we pay in our council tax for. Well, ill tell you something else. Wouldnt else. You certainly wouldnt rho swoo else. You certainly wouldnti find cycle lane find potholes in a cycle lane hooouso find potholes in a cycle lane because darel find potholes in a cycle lane because dare dare because they wouldnt dare dare orsrosooor. Because they wouldnt dare dare disrespect. Well,| disrespect any cyclists. Well, mowro disrespect any cyclists. Well, rhowro ou disrespect any cyclists. Well, theyre all brand new roads, so. Emma burnell coming out emma burnell coming out of. Emma burnell coming out of rho. Emma burnell coming out of rho. Oooorrw emma burnell coming out of the. Exactly exactly. t l the. Exactly exactly. Council 90mg the. Exactly exactly. Council gomg ro the. Exactly exactly. Council are going to be they said theyre going to do it in the next the earliest they next month. The earliest they ooh rhoros can do because theres a homo, can do because theres a backlog, because, course, backlog, because, of course, momho backlog, because, of course,j morhmo or backlog, because, of course, nothing of these Nothing Happened on any of these rooms Nothing Happened on any of these roporrs during Nothing Happened on any of these repairs during lockdown. They mow repairs during lockdown. They rhow mhom repairs during lockdown. They rhow mrghr mor repairs during lockdown. They they might not do repairs during lockdown. They they might not do any more potholes because theyre waiting for vigilante come for another vigilante to come and so this and do them all. So this actually backfire in the actually might backfire in the long remember long run. Arnie remember the armo ho long run. Arnie remember the armo ho didl long run. Arnie remember the arnie he did one Arnie Schwarzenegger . He did one in Arnie Schwarzenegger . He did one moroo m Arnie Schwarzenegger . He did one inarea in florida. Arnie schwarzenegger . He did one in area in florida. He in his own area in florida. He ooruohw in his own area in florida. He ooruohw ho in his own area in florida. He actually he was in his own area in florida. He actually he was sick of waiting, so ho actually he was sick of waiting, so hohos actually he was sick of waiting, so hohos oor actually he was sick of waiting, so hehes got a actually he was sick of waiting, so he hes got a team so he just got hes got a team our m so he just got hes got a team l out in himself. Out and he filled it in himself. I out and he filled it in himself. Rhohosorw out and he filled it in himself. Ihonestly tell out and he filled it in himself. Ihonestly tell you, out and he filled it in himself. | ihonestly tell you, imany i can honestly tell you, so many people that me , people whove said that to me, im out and its im going to go out and its a french myself, isnt it . Because it has not been done. Have you got another story there for us . Thats what people all got another story there for us . Thatime. At people all got another story there for us . Thatime. They people all thatime. They just people all thatime. They just gotple all thatime. They just go and all thatime. They just go and do all the time. They just go and do whor the time. They just go and do whor rhow the time. They just go and do what they want. The time. They just go and do what they want. Well, the papers are what they want. Well, the papers ororhi what they want. Well, the papers ororhihohw. Are full of phil and holly. The pooors are full of phil and holly. The papers everything papers are full of everything rhors papers are full of everything thats happened this week. And i just thats happened this week. And i rushmomoh thats happened this week. And i just mention, justin just want to mention, justin welbv just want to mention, Justin Welbychurch just want to mention, Justin Welby Church of just want to mention, Justin Welbychurch of england welby and the church of england ooooor. Welby and the church of england ooooor. R welby and the church of england leader. I when welby and the church of england leader. I when i welby and the church of england leader. I when i read that he tomo leader. I when i read that he was done speeding for £150, leader. I when i read that he vtthought speeding for £150, leader. I when i read that he vtthought , speeding for £150, leader. I when i read that he vtthought , thatszding for £150, leader. I when i read that he vtthought , thats god| for £150, leader. I when i read that he vtthought , thats god speed, 0, leader. I when i read that he vtthought , thats god speed, is i thought, thats god speed, is it i thought, thats god speed, is h moro i thought, thats god speed, is to nor . Vou i thought, thats god speed, is it not . You know, i thought, thats god speed, is it not . You know, that is fundamental. It not . You know, that is fundamental. That is a copy that tusr fundamental. That is a copy that tusr o fundamental. That is a copy that tusr o zo fundamental. That is a copy that was just a 20 mile fundamental. That is a copy that was just a 20 mile an hour zone oso was just a 20 mile an hour zone woshrho was just a 20 mile an hour zone wasnt he went was just a 20 mile an hour zone wasnt he went over, was just a 20 mile an hour zone wasnt he went over, he. Was just a 20 mile an hour zone wasnt got wasnt it . He went over, he got £500 for that. I thought it was 150, £150. But why , £500 for that. I thought it was 150, £150. But why , why was it 150, £150. But why, why was it hor 150, £150. But why, why was it nor whw 150, £150. But why, why was it nor whw os 150, £150. But why, why was it hot whw h 150, £150. But why, why was it not why was it why � 50 1750 but why, why was it not why was it why was it as much not why was it why was it as mush os not why was it why was it as much as that . Not why was it why was it as much as that . Because thats the rhors much as that . Because thats the rhors rho much as that . Because thats the thats the statute much as that . Because thats the thats the statute of fines. Thats the statute of fines. Rhoros thats the statute of fines. Rhoros mo thats the statute of fines. Theres no rules thats the statute of fines. Theres no rules being thats the statute of fines. Theres no rules being brought in, isnt it . Even if youre two miles over. Yes. Because there used a little bit of 10, used to be a little bit of 10, 10 side. Yeah. 10 leeway either side. Yeah. Why dont you do the drivers course 25 miles an hour . Im not upset about course 25 miles an hour . Im not upsor ooour him course 25 miles an hour . Im not upset about him getting { t i2 ; tt 7 im not upset about him getting it. { t 7b tt 7 im not upset about him getting it. upset about him getting it. And why upset about him getting it. And whw rs upset about him getting it. And whw rs thoro upset about him getting it. And why is that . Why upset about him getting it. And why is that . Why did upset about him getting it. And why is that . Why did they a why is that . Why did they not a bit of do they . God was looking oowo bit of do they . God was looking down o bit of do they . God was looking down o hir bit of do they . God was looking down o mo of bit of do they . God was looking down a bit of divine down a bit of divine intervention. Uot down a bit of divine intervention. Not interfere down a bit of divine intervention. Not interfere with government policy. Do your job as bishop. Do not interfere as a bishop. Do not interfere with policy. And with government policy. And thats because was thats because he was criticising thats because he was criticisingtrying to criticising this week trying to hook criticising this week trying to hook rho criticising this week trying to tank the illegal criticising this week trying to tank the illegal migration bill. He tank the illegal migration bill. Ho corrod tank the illegal migration bill. Ho sorted to tank the illegal migration bill. He called it immoral. Tank the illegal migration bill. He called it immoral. Its tank the illegal migration bill. He called it immoral. Its not immoral to want to stop people dying in the channel. Its not immoral to want to stop illegal immigration anyway. He thinks its his business. Its not. On that note, i think you that note, i think you would. I think that note, i think you would. I rhhh wou that note, i think you would. I think you would that note, i think you would. I think you would find him for moo. Think you would find him for hot coroh think you would find him for that. Carol, would you . I would oohmhorw. That. Carol, would you . I would definitely. Have definitely. I would have him. And the lords and why is he in the lords anyway . Look, youre going and why is he in the lords an be. . Look, youre going and why is he in the lords an be. Thats look, youre going and why is he in the lords an be. Thats constitutionaloing and why is he in the lords an be. Thats constitutional. Ng to be. Thats constitutional. Rhors thats constitutional. Staying whh thats constitutional. Staying with us thats constitutional. Staying with us because thats constitutional. Staying with us because we will talk ohour with us because we will talk ohour rho with us because we will talk about the Phillip Schofield srorw. About the Phillip Schofield srorw. Wru about the Phillip Schofield story. Will he about the Phillip Schofield story. Will he be about the Phillip Schofield story. Ll t g ot t story. Will he be remaining on tv . Theres other things that were talking about. But so stay with us till the next hour. Anyway coming up, are we hooomhg anyway coming up, are we hooomho o coming up, are we becoming a country divided by young becoming a country divided by young omo becoming a country divided by young omo oro . Becoming a country divided by young and old . Our next guest wru young and old . Our next guest with ho young and old . Our next guest will be telling young and old . Our next guest will be telling us young and old . Our next guest will be telling us about what he oous will be telling us about what he calls intergenerational economic wororro calls intergenerational economic wororro. Amu calls intergenerational Economic Warfare. And dont calls intergenerational Economic Warfare. t t e g calls intergenerational Economic Warfare. t t e g g warfare. And dont forget, give us your views. Ill tell you, weve had going on here. Weve had so much going on here. How you . Would you like to how about you . Would you like to become vigilante . Become a pothole vigilante . Anyway, email us, gb views. Us at gbnews. Uk or tweet us at gb news. Now its time for the weather. Hello there. Welcome to weather. Hello there. Welcome to your weather. Hello there. Welcome to wour oorosr weather. Hello there. Welcome to wour oorosr oh weather. Hello there. Welcome to your latest gb news gt t; t; welcome to your latest gb news weather rorooosr. Your latest gb news weather rorooosr. Rm your latest gb news weather forecast. Im Greg Dewhurst and yes, forecast. Im Greg Dewhurst and vesr soruroow forecast. Im Greg Dewhurst and vesr soruroow rs forecast. Im Greg Dewhurst and yes, saturday is looking pretty rho yes, saturday is looking pretty too oross yes, saturday is looking pretty fine across much yes, saturday is looking pretty fine across much of the uk. Fine across much of the uk. Moro fine across much of the uk. More wru fine across much of the uk. There will still fine across much of the uk. There will still be fine across much of the uk. There will still be some fine across much of the uk. There will still be some Cloud Holding onto eastern parts, but overall pretty settled thanks to this area of high pressure. Doesit this area of high pressure. Does it hold on for the whole woohomoo does it hold on for the whole weekend . This does it hold on for the whole weekend . This weather weekend . Well, this weather hom weekend . Well, this weather from who weekend . Well, this weather front will move weekend . Well, this weather front will move in across parts of front will move in across parts or soorromo front will move in across parts of scotland and front will move in across parts of scotland and Northern Ireland on suhoow. Of scotland and Northern Ireland on sumoow. Amo of scotland and Northern Ireland on sunday. And then of scotland and Northern Ireland on sunday. tott ot t on sunday. And then later on, push further south and introduce colder air into monday. But for the rest of for saturday, t but for the rest of for saturday, many of the rest of for saturday, many or the rest of for saturday, many or poomrw the rest of for saturday, many or poomrw or the rest of for saturday, many of us, plenty of warm sunshine to of us, plenty of warm sunshine ro o. Omo of us, plenty of warm sunshine ro rho of us, plenty of warm sunshine to come. The low of us, plenty of warm sunshine to come. The low cloud just just homing to come. The low cloud just just homomo oh to come. The low cloud just just hanging on across to come. The low cloud just just hanging on across eastern parts of rho hanging on across eastern parts of the midlands hanging on across eastern parts of the midlands towards the wash area, some eastern of the midlands towards the wash area, some eastern coast of enormo area, some eastern coast of england, perhaps scotland too. So temperatures england, perhaps scotland too. So temperatures here struggling to so temperatures here struggling ro oor so temperatures here struggling ro ooo hoo so temperatures here struggling to get into double figures. A ooro to get into double figures. A ooro devo to get into double figures. A ooro dayr hur to get into double figures. A cold day, but for to get into double figures. A cold day, but for the vast mororrrw cold day, but for the vast mororrrw , cold day, but for the vast mororrrw , high cold day, but for the vast majority , high teens, locally majority, high teens, locally oow majority, high teens, locally row 20s. Majority, high teens, locally row 20s. So majority, high teens, locally low 20s. So feeling nice in that mho low 20s. So feeling nice in that mro wow low 20s. So feeling nice in that mid may sunshine low 20s. So feeling nice in that mid may sunshine into the owomhg mid may sunshine into the evening omo mid may sunshine into the evening and overnight a fine end to evening and overnight a fine end ho ho evening and overnight a fine end ho ho oow. Evening and overnight a fine end ho ho oow. Rho evening and overnight a fine end to the day. The low evening and overnight a fine end to the day. The low cloud starts showow to the day. The low cloud starts soowow oroopmo to the day. The low cloud starts slowly creeping back inland horos slowly creeping back inland across parts of slowly creeping back inland across parts of england. And rhoros across parts of england. And rhoros thor across parts of england. And theres that weather front mowhg theres that weather front moving to theres that weather front moving in across parts of worrhom moving in across parts of Northern Ireland. Northwest soorromo Northern Ireland. Northwest scotland into Northern Ireland. Northwest scotland into early hours scotland into the early hours uhoor scotland into the early hours umoor oooor scotland into the early hours under clear spells. Well see temperatures under clear spells. Well see temperatures dip into single houros temperatures dip into single rrouros. Hur temperatures dip into single rrouros. Our o temperatures dip into single figures. But a frost free night for ou figures. But a frost free night for or omo figures. But a frost free night for all and a figures. But a frost free night for all and a mixed start to sunday for all and a mixed start to sunday morning. Low cloud across oosomr sunday morning. Low cloud across oosomr horos sunday morning. Low cloud across oosomr ports of sunday morning. Low cloud across eastern parts of england. Once more, somemurk more, some mist and murk orsowhoro more, some mist and murk orsowhoro , more, some mist and murk elsewhere , the more, some mist and murk elsewhere , the rain across elsewhere, the rain across soorroho elsewhere, the rain across scotland and elsewhere, the rain across scotland and Northern Ireland through scotland and Northern Ireland rhrouoh rho scotland and Northern Ireland through the day scotland and Northern Ireland through the day just slowly hushos through the day just slowly pushesfurther through the day just slowly pushes further south pushes a little further south omo pushes a little further south andmaking pushes a little further south andmaking its pushes a little further south and making its way and east, making its way owomuouw and east, making its way eventually parts of eventually into parts of hormom eventually into parts of northern england, perhaps ooosror northern england, perhaps ooosroror northern england, perhaps coastal of wales and coastal fringes of wales and sourhwosr coastal fringes of wales and southwest england later on in the southwest england later on in rho oow. Southwest england later on in rho oow. Hur southwest england later on in the day. But ahead of this, the how the day. But ahead of this, the row oouo the day. But ahead of this, the low cloud starts the day. But ahead of this, the low cloud starts to lift and hook low cloud starts to lift and hook omo low cloud starts to lift and break and well low cloud starts to lift and break and well see sunny spells omo break and well see sunny spells and temperatures break and well see sunny spells and temperatures again up to orouro and temperatures again up to arounddegrees and temperatures again up to around degrees colder behind around 22 degrees colder behind this around 22 degrees colder behind rhrs homot around 22 degrees colder behind this frontal system around 22 degrees colder behind this frontal system across parts of this frontal system across parts or soorroho this frontal system across parts of scotland and this frontal system across parts of scotland and Northern Ireland into of scotland and Northern Ireland ho ho of scotland and Northern Ireland into the evening. Of scotland and Northern Ireland into the evening. This front oomhuos into the evening. This front continues to into the evening. This front continues to slowly push its way south continues to slowly push its way south eastwards continues to slowly push its way south eastwards. Continues to slowly push its way south eastwards. Some of the south eastwards. Some of the roh south eastwards. Some of the oouro south eastwards. Some of the rain couldheavy south eastwards. Some of the rain could heavy times, rain could be heavy at times, hur rain could be heavy at times, huhho rain could be heavy at times, huhho somo rain could be heavy at times, but be some giant but there will be some giant hrohuoos interludes in there. So not overly interludes in there. So not overlybehind. Interludes in there. So noti overlybehind it, overly persistent behind it, orooror overly persistent behind it, clearer spells overly persistent behind it, clearer spells and a few showers thor clearer spells and a few showers rhor rums clearer spells and a few showers that turns into clearer spells and a few showers that turns into showers for many of that turns into showers for many or us that turns into showers for many or us om that turns into showers for many or us on womoow that turns into showers for many of us on monday and tuesday. But hhohror of us on monday and tuesday. But urrohror hw of us on monday and tuesday. But brighter by wednesday, feeling hoshor brighter by wednesday, feeling hoshor hor brighter by wednesday, feeling hoshor for. Gb news radio. So. Welcome back cit \ 3t so. Welcome back to gb news radio. So. Welcome back to saturday gb news radio. So. Welcome back to saturday morning with osrhor welcome back to saturday morning with esther and welcome back to saturday morning with esther and phil. C � 073 with esther and phil. It is 1027 aro with esther and phil. It is 1027 with esther and phil. C 07 are we becoming a with esther and phil. C � 073 are we becoming a country now. Are we becoming a country orwooo now. Are we becoming a country orwooo hw now. Are we becoming a country orwooo how young are we becoming a country divided by young and old . Our moor divided by young and old . Our most ouosr divided by young and old . Our most ouosr , divided by young and old . Our next guest , doctor david next guest, doctor david worrhos next guest, doctor david jeffries, certainly thinks so. So jeffries, certainly thinks so. So horho jeffries, certainly thinks so. So hoho , jeffries, certainly thinks so. So hello , david. Youve so hello, david. Youve described so hello, david. Youve described this in some of the work described this in some of the work aar described this in some of the work that youve described this in some of the work that youve done as intergeneration National Economic warfare. Where do you Economic Warfare. Where do you wom Economic Warfare. Where do you wom ro Economic Warfare. Where do you wom ro orthorh Economic Warfare. Where do you want to explain that to us . Vooh want to explain that to us . Vooh. Wo want to explain that to us . Yeah, we essentially want to explain that to us . V ott c want to explain that to us . Yeah, we essentially live in a country that has an economy thats geared against the young and has state that is geared against the young. It is much against the young. It is much harder to be a young person and to get economic capital than it was 15, 20, 30, 40, 50 years ago. And this is bad for a was 15, 20, 30, 40, 50 years ago. And this is bad for a whole host ago. And this is bad for a whole host or ago. And this is bad for a whole host of reasons, ago. And this is bad for a whole host of reasons, not g and this is bad for a whole host of reasons, not just the mo host of reasons, not just the life chances host of reasons, not just the life chances of host of reasons, not just the life chances of young people rooow life chances of young people rooow os life chances of young people rooow os rhow life chances of young people today as they grow up , life chances of young people today as they grow up, but life chances of young people today as they grow up , but also today as they grow up, but also hooouso today as they grow up, but also hooouso rrs today as they grow up, but also because its bad today as they grow up, but also because its bad for the conservative because its bad for the conservative party. After 12 conservative party. After 12 woors conservative party. After 12 woors or conservative party. After 12 years of conservative government. Hs years of conservative government. Rrs worw years of conservative government. Rrs worw horo years of conservative government. Its very hard for years of conservative government. Its very hard for someone horhohs. Its very hard for someone porhops mw. Its very hard for someone perhaps my age. Its very hard for someone perhaps my age , so early 30 to perhaps my age, so early 30 to hook perhaps my age, so early 30 to hook hook perhaps my age, so early 30 to look back over perhaps my age, so early 30 to look back over the perhaps my age, so early 30 to look back over the last 12 years omo look back over the last 12 years omo oo look back over the last 12 years omo go, whor look back over the last 12 years and go, what has look back over the last 12 years and go, what has this government roohw and go, what has this government roouw oomo and go, what has this government roooow ooho hor and go, what has this government really done for me and go, what has this government really done for me . And go, what has this government really done for me . And thats really done for me . And thats oomoorous really done for me . And thats oomoorous hor really done for me . And thats dangerous for the really done for me . And thats dangerous for the conservative party dangerous for the conservative horrw hooouso dangerous for the conservative party because its dangerous for the conservative party because its born out in rho party because its born out in rho Polling Party because its born out in rho polling os party because its born out in the polling as well. Right . In ooro, the polling as well. Right . In ooro, rho the polling as well. Right . In 2010, the conservatives were hohho 2010, the conservatives were behind amongst 2010, the conservatives were behind amongst 18 to 25 year oros behind amongst 18 to 25 year oros hw behind amongst 18 to 25 year oros hw owo behind amongst 18 to 25 year olds by two points. They two rooms olds by two points. They two points behind olds by two points. They two points behind labour. Now its 26 points behind labour. Now its zo hormo points behind labour. Now its zo pomrs. Amo points behind labour. Now its 26 points. And thats not good for rho 26 points. And thats not good for the health 26 points. And thats not good for the health of, 26 points. And thats not good for the health of, you know, of rho for the health of, you know, of the conservative for the health of, you know, of the conservative party at any oomoror the conservative party at any general election the conservative party at any general election in future. If it general election in future. If to rosos general election in future. If it loses people general election in future. If it loses people , general election in future. If it loses people , you know, under it loses people, you know, under the it loses people, you know, under rho ooo it loses people, you know, under rho ooo or it loses people, you know, under rho age or oro. It loses people, you know, under the age of 40. Now it loses people, you know, under the age of 40. Uotxouo it loses people, you know, under the age of 40. Urt uo it loses people, you know, under the age of 40. Uotxouo g t;c the age of 40. Now i totally get and accept getting on the housing ladder is difficult and thatis housing ladder is difficult and that is something that does now have to be confronted. But i also look at the seismic changes of how people live their lives. So when i speak to an older generation that all their money went into bricks and mortar, they sort of work worked just to have a home. So they didnt have Takeaway Coffees, they werent going away, didnt have branded clothes , didnt have a mobile clothes, didnt have a mobile phone , didnt just buy a cup of phone, didnt just buy a cup of coffee as they were walking to and from work. So they said all of their went to that. Of their money went to that. They didnt have the experiences that have. So do that young people have. So do you pitching two you think this pitching two generations against one another without fully understanding the limits that an older generation had is fair right. Well, i had is fair or right. Well, i think if we look had is fair or right. Well, i think if we look at eh g well, i think if we look at something hho think if we look at something hho housing, think if we look at Something Like housing, the think if we look at Something Like housing, the average cost of o like housing, the average cost of o houso like housing, the average cost of a house compared to the oorooo of a house compared to the oorooo sororw of a house compared to the average salary for, say, my horoms average salary for, say, my horomrs woro average salary for, say, my parents were they were much ooso parents were they were much ooso. Parents were they were much ooso. H parents were they were much ooso. H os parents were they were much closer. 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And so for people my age now, it can be six, seven, orohr age now, it can be six, seven, orohr rrmos age now, it can be six, seven, eight times the age now, it can be six, seven, eight times the average salary. Amo eight times the average salary. Who to eight times the average salary. Who to thor eight times the average salary. 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So its not necessarily about saying, oh , necessarily about saying, oh, you necessarily about saying, oh, wou know, necessarily about saying, oh, wou hmow, mw necessarily about saying, oh, you know, my parents or grandparents you know, my parents or grandparents have had a really good grandparents have had a really good rrmo grandparents have had a really good rrmo or grandparents have had a really good time of it grandparents have had a really good time of it in grandparents have had a really good time of it in the past. Us good time of it in the past. Us ohour good time of it in the past. Its about saying the way that oooroo its about saying the way that weve geared kind of weve geared this kind of Economic System up is breaking up oommumrros Economic System up is breaking up communities and its breaking up communities and its breaking up romrhos. Up communities and its breaking up families. And up communities and its breaking up families. And i up communities and its breaking up families. And i think thats in up families. And i think thats to mow up families. And i think thats in momw wows up families. And i think thats in many ways quite tragic. David wouro in many ways quite tragic. David wouro o in many ways quite tragic. David youre a senior lecturer in british youre a senior lecturer in british politics youre a senior lecturer in british politics at liverpool awry, british politics at liverpool university, and british politics at liverpool university, and you mentioned ohour university, and you mentioned ohour rho university, and you mentioned about the difference in support hom about the difference in support from for about the difference in support now from for the about the difference in support now from for the conservative party now from for the conservative horrw omomosr now from for the conservative party amongst Younger Voters somhoroo party amongst Younger Voters oomporoo ro party amongst Younger Voters compared to 2010. G compared to 2010. I guess, you know. Compared to 2010. I guess, you know, that also a factor in that is that that previously been 13 years of a Labour Government and young people tend to be anti establishment and that might explain some of that difference. But i guess the conservative party probably has always relied on younger people as they get older, becoming more conservative, and that thats, you know, thats sort of happened over a period of time. Do you think theres anything to suggest that actually , as this suggest that actually, as this generation of Younger Voters become older, that they wont change in that sense, that theres Something Different happening with this generation of voters . Or can the conservative party rely on the fact that, you know, a few years of government, people of a Labour Government, people getting older and these people change conservatives change back to the conservatives again . I think theres definitely going to be that was definitely going to be that was definitely a question to a. Professor well, its 12 years of a conservative well, its 12 years of a conservative government will howo a conservative government will howo rumoo a conservative government will have turned people away like so young have turned people away like so young pewte have turned people away like so young poopoo wru have turned people away like so young people will hit out ooohsr young people will hit out against kind young people will hit out against kind of the establishment or those in against kind of the establishment or those in power. But establishment or those in power. Our wwoo establishment or those in power. Our soom establishment or those in power. But weve seen theres some good homog but weve seen theres some good polling thor but weve seen theres some good polling rhor hos but weve seen theres some good polling that has tracked people rho polling that has tracked people over the course polling that has tracked people over the course of polling that has tracked people over the course of the last , over the course of the last, saw, over the course of the last, savr ooh over the course of the last, sayr ooh rs over the course of the last, say, ten, 15 years. And its showm say, ten, 15 years. And its shown actually say, ten, 15 years. And its shown actually theyre not hooomhg shown actually theyre not becoming more shown actually theyre not becoming more right wing or more pro oomsoworwo becoming more right wing or more pro conservative or becoming more right wing or more pro conservative or even a pio conservative or even a horro pio conservative or even a horho oh. Pro conservative or even a little bit. If pro conservative or even a little bit. If anything, they are becoming little bit. If anything, they are becoming more left wing as rrmo are becoming more left wing as omoso are becoming more left wing as omoso rrs are becoming more left wing as time so its almost. Time goes on. So its almost two time goes on. So its almost like conservatives time goes on. So its almost likeconservatives a like the conservatives are in a position like the conservatives are in a position where like the conservatives are in a position where they theyve got to position where they theyve got rooh position where they theyve got rooh rhrs position where they theyve got to off this generation to write off this generation ossomrohw to write off this generation ossomrohw. To write off this generation essentially. And i think thats essentially. And i think thats a essentially. And i think thats o wow, essentially. And i think thats o veryr wow essentially. And i think thats o veryr worw ooo essentially. And i think thats a very, very bad idea. And you know, a very, very bad idea. And you knowshu a very, very bad idea. And you know,still win a very, very bad idea. And you know,still win a a very, very bad idea. And youi know,still win a. Of know, you can still win a lot of rhom know, you can still win a lot of rhom nir know, you can still win a lot of them if conservative them over if the conservative party them over if the conservative how our them over if the conservative how out o them over if the conservative party put a pitch them over if the conservative party put a pitch that, you know, party put a pitch that, you know, oppooo party put a pitch that, you know, appeal them. But its know, appeal to them. But its wow know, appeal to them. But its wowhooouso know, appeal to them. But its verybecause the very difficult because the conservatives Conservatives Coalition oooororor Conservatives Coalition Electoral Coalition is not necessarily Electoral Coalition is not necessarily be Electoral Coalition is not necessarily be geared up towards or necessarily be geared up towards of rho necessarily be geared up towards some of the policy necessarily be geared up towards some of the policy changes that tho some of the policy changes that hot mom some of the policy changes that hot mom horh some of the policy changes that that might help that. Okay just a that might help that. Okay just orthor that might help that. Okay just ormor quick that might help that. Okay just a final quick question. That might help that. Okay just a final quick question. In the papers today, was the andrew neil column saying if the left get in, if labour get in, they will do a pact, a labour, lib dem pact and that will then have proportional representation and the left will be in forever. Do you think he has a point . Thats what people have got to be wary of. Now there wont be first past the post system anymore. Itll go to proportional representation. Itll go to proportional representation. I itll go to proportional representation. I dont really representation. I dont really think representation. I dont really rhhh thor representation. I dont really think that point t i dont really think that point holds up to oomohsomso think that point holds up to comparisons abroad. So new zooroho comparisons abroad. So new zooromo , comparisons abroad. So new zooromo , hor comparisons abroad. So new zealand , for instance, moved zealand, for instance, moved hom zealand, for instance, moved from first zealand, for instance, moved from first past zealand, for instance, moved from first past the to post a form from first past the to post a form or from first past the to post a form of rho from first past the to post a form of pr in from first past the to post a form of pr in 1993 and it has hoo form of pr in 1993 and it has had conservative form of pr in 1993 and it has had conservative governments shoo had conservative governments rhoh had conservative governments since then. And had conservative governments since then. And i had conservative governments since then. And i dont 2015 for hsromoo since then. And i dont 2015 for instance, when since then. And i dont 2015 for instance, when ukip got around hoo instance, when ukip got around no or instance, when ukip got around no of rho instance, when ukip got around 12 of the vote, instance, when ukip got around 12 of the vote, conservatives 90t 12 of the vote, conservatives ooo oroumo 12 of the vote, conservatives ooo oroumo ss 12 of the vote, conservatives got around 35 ish. 12 of the vote, conservatives got around 35 ish. That would howo got around 35 ish. That would howo ooooo got around 35 ish. That would have added up got around 35 ish. That would have added up to got around 35 ish. That would have added up to close to a motorhw have added up to close to a mororrrw. Amo have added up to close to a majority. And so have added up to close to a majority. And so it depends on the majority. And so it depends on rho swsrom majority. And so it depends on the system used. Majority. And so it depends on the system used. But i think rhoso the system used. But i think rhoso roors the system used. But i think these fears are the system used. But i think these fears are massively oworhhowu these fears are massively overblown. Um these fears are massively overblown. Um and i also think ooruohw overblown. Um and i also think ooruohw h overblown. Um and i also think actually in some overblown. Um and i also think actually in some ways it will be good actually in some ways it will be good for actually in some ways it will be good for rho actually in some ways it will be good for the conservative party. So good for the conservative party. So rm good for the conservative party. So m from good for the conservative party. So im from liverpool and i think. So im from liverpool and i rhhh h. So im from liverpool and i rhhh h wo. So im from liverpool and i think if we had. So im from liverpool and i think if we had a. So im from liverpool and i think if we had a form of pr in root think if we had a form of pr in local government, think if we had a form of pr in local government, wed have oomsoworwos local government, wed have conservatives in local government, wed have conservatives in the liverpool crow conservatives in the liverpool crow counci conservatives in the Liverpool City Council and conservatives in the Liverpool City Council and wouldnt that be city council and wouldnt that ho O City Council and wouldnt that be a brilliant city council and wouldnt that be a brilliant thing . Well you omo be a brilliant thing . Well you omo r be a brilliant thing . Well you omo r mhom be a brilliant thing . Well you and i might think so. Jt and i might think so. David. Sooroo and i might think so. David. Sooroo or and i might think so. David. Scared of david. And i might think so. David. Scared of david. You and i might think so. Jt scared of david. V ot c. scared of david. You just said youre in liverpool. We cant let you go without saying. You know, youre young, youre in liverpool, surely youve been party week for the party in all week for the eurovision contest. Whats Eurovision Song Contest. Whats the the atmosphere there the whats the atmosphere there like . Ive got to say, the atmosphere in liverpool, its absolutely brilliant and i think it just shows that people in liverpool do come together. A lot of naysayers are saying, oh, its lot of naysayers are saying, oh, hs om lot of naysayers are saying, oh, its an expensive lot of naysayers are saying, oh, its an expensive like waste of mohow its an expensive like waste of momow omo its an expensive like waste of momow omo hur its an expensive like waste of money and but actually youre oowo money and but actually youre down rhoro. Money and but actually youre down there. Theres people from owow down there. Theres people from oworw ooumrw down there. Theres people from every country imaginable, all ooos every country imaginable, all afoes r every country imaginable, all ages r rush every country imaginable, alli ages , just mixing. Ages imaginable, just mixing. Rhoros ages imaginable, just mixing. Rhoros mo ages imaginable, just mixing. Theres no kind ages imaginable, just mixing. Theres no kind of nobodies being theres no kind of nobodies horho om theres no kind of nobodies being an idiot. Theres no kind of nobodies being an idiot. Everyones just howmo being an idiot. Everyones just horhoomo. Being an idiot. Everyones just havingtime. So being an idiot. Everyones just having time. So can also having a good time. So can also say having a good time. So can also sow mo having a good time. So can also sow ho orhor having a good time. So can also say no other city having a good time. So can also say no other city does. say no other city does. A party outre say no other city does. A party ouho rho say no other city does. A party quite like liverpool. They can teach everybody a thing or two about coming together and having about coming together and having a good time. David thanks ever so much for taking the time to join us this morning. We appreciate it. And t ct g we appreciate it. And well let join us this morning. We appreciate it. And well let you get appreciate it. And well let you got hook appreciate it. And well let you got hook ro appreciate it. And well let you get back to the appreciate it. And well let you get back to the eurovision horrw. Rhorl get back to the eurovision party. That whole party. Now, i think that whole thing party. Now, i think that whole thing proportional thing about proportional representation an interesting representation is an interesting ooroo representation is an interesting aeratere. Representation is an interesting debate, for another debate, probably for another rrmo debate, probably for anotheri rrmo rhhk time, because i always think whhh time, because i always think whhh rho time, because i always think within the benches on the conservative within the benches on the conservative side is a whole spoorrum. Conservative side is a whole spectrum. Theres conservative side is a whole spectrum. Theres a kind of a proportional representation within the conservative party rather than outside. So i think its interesting where it will go. Glad to say that he thought it might give places like liverpool chance some liverpool a chance to have some conservative representation with pr , you get coalition pr, you get coalition governments. We are coalitions rooorhor governments. We are coalitions together before governments. We are coalitions together before the g we are coalitions together before the election rorhor together before the election rorhor rhom together before the election rather than after the election. In rather than after the election. H rhrs rather than after the election. In this country, rather than after the election. In this country, we put our conservatives in this country, we put our conservatives a in this country, we put our conservatives a coalition. Oohours conservatives a coalition. Oohours o conservatives a coalition. Labours a coalition. Do the labours a coalition. We do the rhino. Labours a coalition. We do the rhmo. Wo labours a coalition. We do the same thing. We just it the same thing. We just do it the orhor kooh same thing. We just do it the. Other yeah anyway, same thing. We just do it the other up, yeah anyway, same thing. We just do it the other up, olympiczah anyway, same thing. We just do it the other up, olympic winnerway, same thing. We just do it the other up, olympic winner sirj, coming up, olympic winner sir srowo coming up, olympic winner sir Steve Redgrave coming up, olympic winner sir Steve Redgrave will be with us shortw Steve Redgrave will be with us shorrow whoro Steve Redgrave will be with us shortly where we Steve Redgrave will be with us shortly where we will open up ohour shortly where we will open upi ohour rssuos shortly where we will open up about issues. About his Mental Health issues. So about his Mental Health issues. So oohr about his Mental Health issues. So oomr go about his Mental Health issues. So dont go anywhere here on gb news, the peoples channel. Britain is watching. Channel. Britain is watching. Wokomo channel. Britain is watching. Welcome back. Its now 1039. Now this monday marks the start of Mental Health awareness week. And former british rower sir Steve Redgrave has opened up about his Mental Health. The multiple olympic t the multiple olympic champion spoke ohour multiple olympic champion spoke ohour how multiple olympic champion spoke ohour how hos multiple olympic champion spoke about how hes battling against oohrossrom about how hes battling against depression after about how hes battling against depression after finding out his rosrosroromo depression after finding out his testosterone levels have fallen omo testosterone levels have fallen omo woro testosterone levels have fallen and were delighted to be joined by and were delighted to be joined hw shr and were delighted to be joined ow sh srowo and were delighted to be joined by sir Steve Redgrave himself. Srowo, by sir Steve Redgrave himself. Srowo, rhohk by sir Steve Redgrave himself. Steve, thank you by sir Steve Redgrave himself. Steve, thank you very much wood steve, thank you very much hoooo hor steve, thank you very much indeed for taking the time to torm indeed for taking the time to toh us indeed for taking the time to join usmorning. Indeed for taking the time to join us morning. You join us this morning. Do you just join us this morning. Do you rushrook join us this morning. Do you rushrook us join us this morning. Do you justtell us what. Join us this morning. Do you just tell us what mental just want to tell us what mental hookrh just want to tell us what mental hookrh ssuos just want to tell us what Mental Health issues that just want to tell us what Mental Health issues that you you suhoroo Health Issues that you you suffered and Health Issues that you you suffered and was this as a consequence of suffered and was this as a consequence of sort of ending wour consequence of sort of ending wour rowho consequence of sort of ending your rowing career . Its quite your rowing career . Its quite common for athletes because they homo common for athletes because they romo ro common for athletes because they romo ro rowo common for athletes because they tend to retire relatively early omo tend to retire relatively early omo sorr tend to retire relatively early omo sorr or tend to retire relatively early and sort of are tend to retire relatively early and sort of are focusing on what moor. R and sort of are focusing on what comes next. I was and sort of are focusing on what comes next. c and sort of are focusing on what comes next. I was quite lucky when i retire is that within weeks i got involved in the bid for the 2012 olympics. So my olympic for the 2012 olympics. So my okwmpro oroom for the 2012 olympics. So my olympic dream moved � 0� t ; so my olympic dream moved on from being olympic dream moved on from horho o olympic dream moved on from being a competitor to try and bring being a competitor to try and bring to being a competitor to try and bring to ro being a competitor to try and bring it to the being a competitor to try and bring it to the uk for the celebration bring it to the uk for the celebration that we had in 2012. But celebration that we had in 2012. Hut oorromkw celebration that we had in 2012. But certainly when celebration that we had in 2012. But certainly when the celebration that we had in 2012. But certainly when the cauldron went out at the paralympics is that it that there was this sort of feeling of what happens next as sort of element of, of my olympic dream from a 14 year old through to a 50 year old as i was in 2012 of what do i do next. And that is pretty common whhh next. And that is pretty common whhh whhh th and that is pretty common within within sportspeople. Within within sportspeople. But i within within sportspeople. But rtusr within within sportspeople. But rrusr thought within within sportspeople. But i just thought it within within sportspeople. But i just thought it was within within sportspeople. But i just thought it was sort within within sportspeople. But i just thought it was sort of an age thing in some ways. Im now in my 60s is that of, of gaining a bit of weight tiredness as you say, sort of depression , all say, sort of depression, all these sort of elements. Youre these sort of elements. Youre thinking, these sort of elements. Youre rhmkmg, wan, these sort of elements. Youre thinking, well, isnt these sort of elements. Youre thinking, well, isnt this c ct youre thinking, well, isnt this just oro thinking, well, isnt this just oro age . Thinking, well, isnt this just ooo ogoo aho thinking, well, isnt this just old age . And that was a close momo old age . And that was a close moho ro old age . And that was a close moho ro mo old age . And that was a close friend to me, sort old age . And that was a close friend to me, sort of said, work, friend to me, sort of said, work, whw friend to me, sort of said, well, why dont friend to me, sort of said, well, why dont you go and get it well, why dont you go and get to ohookoo well, why dont you go and get it checked out well, why dont you go and get it checked out instead of going oowo it checked out instead of going down rho it checked out instead of going down the routine it checked out instead of going down the routine of clinically of depression down the routine of clinically of depression and putting the hurooh of depression and putting the huroom om of depression and putting the burden on on of depression and putting the burden on on the nhs is that howo burden on on the nhs is that howo o burden on on the nhs is that howo o srmhko burden on on the nhs is that have a simple blood test. have a simple blood test. And to see have a simple blood test. And to omo have a simple blood test. And to mu ro have a simple blood test. And to mu ro mw have a simple blood test. And to see and to my surprise that i came out with with low testosterone and so im now going through a process of boosting my test thrown up to hopefully arnie of, of counter some of those issues. And you some of those issues. And you talk some of those issues. And you hook ohour some of those issues. And you talk about men some of those issues. And you talk about men needing and you talk about men needing to talk ohour talk about men needing to talk more about it. Talk about men needing to talk more about it. Women definitely rook more about it. Women definitely rokk moro more about it. Women definitely talk more about more about it. Women definitely talk more about it. More about it. Women definitely talk more about it. Men need to i talk more about it. Men need to r mooh talk more about it. Men need to i mean because talk more about it. Men need to i mean because you probably were rhhkho i mean because you probably were thinking ro i mean because you probably were thinking to yourself i mean because you probably were thinking to yourself for a long omo, thinking to yourself for a long rrmo, wou, thinking to yourself for a long time, well, im thinking to yourself for a long time, well, im going to have a hugo time, well, im going to have a huge comedown. Time, well, im going to have a huge comedown. Ive been this sorr huge comedown. Ive been this sortomos huge comedown. Ive been this sort times winning sort of five times winning okwmpro sort of five times winning okwmpro sorr sort of five times winning olympic sort of medallist. How do olympic sort of medallist. How to r olympic sort of medallist. How to r hu olympic sort of medallist. How to r hkk mw olympic sort of medallist. How do i fill my time . Olympic sort of medallist. How do i fill my time . So tell us ohour do i fill my time . So tell us ohour rhrs. Do i fill my time . So tell us about this. Men do i fill my time . So tell us about this. Men need to talk more now. Yeah, about this. Men need to talk more now. Yeah, youre spot on thoro more now. Yeah, youre spot on rhoro, osrhor. More now. Yeah, youre spot on there, esther. More now. Yeah, youre spot on there, esther. Is more now. Yeah, youre spot on there, esther. Is that more now. Yeah, youre spot on there, esther. Tot there, esther. Is that men tend to bottle things up and dont talk about their Mental Health issues or of their Health Issues in in in any way really. Females are very good at communicating with each other and talking about of the situation that they may be in men will take the mickey out of each other. So we tend not to discuss things like that. Yeah. Tend not to discuss things like that. Yeah. Steve i tend not to discuss things like that. Yeah. Steve i mean i was thinking that. Yeah. Steve i mean i was thinking about that. Yeah. Steve i mean i was thinking about if yeah. Steve i mean i was thinking about if you think the oowommom thinking about if you think the government should be doing omwrhmo government should be doing anything about government should be doing anything about this is this somorhho anything about this is this something that youd like to see a something that youd like to see o mrmsror something that youd like to see a minister for, something that youd like to see a minister for, for something that youd like to see a minister for, for men or somorhhgo a minister for, for men or something . You know , theres a, something . You know, theres a, rhoros something . You know, theres a, rhoros o something . You know, theres a, theres a minister something . You know, theres a, theres a minister thats responsible theres a minister thats responsible for womens health. I responsible for womens health. R rush responsible for womens health. R us ooo responsible for womens health. I just wonder whether you thought i just wonder whether you thought that i just wonder whether you thought that as a consequence of rho, thought that as a consequence of rhorjshouko thought that as a consequence of that, should minister that, there should be a minister roshohsrhko that, there should be a minister responsible promoting mens responsible for promoting mens hoohh responsible for promoting mens Health Wellbeing responsible for promoting mens Health Wellbeing in in health and mens wellbeing in in the health and mens wellbeing in in rho somo health and mens wellbeing in in rho wayw health and mens wellbeing in in the same way, or health and mens wellbeing in in the same way, or whether its just the same way, or whether its justindividuals the same way, or whether its just individuals to sort out just for individuals to sort out for. Just for individuals to sort out for. Moos just for individuals to sort out for. Thats an. For themselves. Thats an interesting question that we live in a of a society equal equal for all. So that may be a very good suggestion. Is that of helping men sort of talk in recent years theres been a lot of talk about Mental Health and men opening up a little bit more. But i think that that that could be a good step forward. So being able to sort of impact an area that is sort of almost a taboo. So area that is sort of almost a taboo. So im area that is sort of almost a taboo. So im going to ask you a ouosrrom taboo. So im going to ask you a ouosrrom horo taboo. So im going to ask you a question here. Put so im going to ask you a question here. Put you on the soot question here. Put you on the spot wouko question here. Put you on the spot wouko wou question here. Put you on the spot. Would you become a oowommom spot. Would you become a government adviser on this mohor government adviser on this motor 7 government adviser on this motor . R government adviser on this matter . I would government adviser on this matter . 3 o government adviser on this matter . t cc matter . I would certainly ill do my bit. I have helped on advisory with with obviously with sports out of some elements of being a diabetic and being a diabetic of testosterone is a quite an issue there. So i have helped in the past of various governments. But yes, wed always be interested to help society. And always be interested to help society. And also you helped society. And also you helped with society. And also you helped with rho society. And also you helped with the olympics t t;cg and also you helped with the olympics as well. The okwmhro with the olympics as well. The okwmpro oro with the olympics as well. The okwmpro oro h with the olympics as well. The olympic bid in the uk. With the olympics as well. The olympic bid in the uk. So olympic bid in the uk. So i think olympic bid in the uk. So i think wouro olympic bid in the uk. So i think youre the olympic bid in the uk. So i think youre the man and im proposing think youre the man and im proposing you think youre the man and im proposing you here and now to do rhor. Proposing you here and now to do rhor. Store. Proposing you here and now to do rhor. Srowo. R proposing you here and now to do that. Steve, i just proposing you here and now to do that. Steve, i just just that. Steve, ijust just finally, i mean, you are britains outside of cycling. Youre the britains most successful olympic man ever. And i just wonder when youre looking back on your career, i know youve had all these sort of Mental Health issues and its brilliant that youve got the courage to come on and talk about that. And i think that will inspire lots of other people, the people, hopefully to do the same. You must look on same. But you must look back on that with an enormous that career with an enormous amount pride. And is there amount of pride. And is there any any of those five gold medals that you won that particular albie, particularly satisfied about maybe the last one . Um , funny. It would one . Um, funny. It would probably be the first one because you have this dream to become olympic champion and the first was, was making that dream become reality. Is is that the others were of all all fantastic. But once youve done it once, why not be able to if you get the right elements in place, you might be able to do it. But then youve got the ageing process. Um its harder to to, stay at the top. So all those sort of areas. So but the top. So all those sort of areas. So but if i had to pick out one, it would be the first one because thats where the dream becomes reality. Well as i know, i was sat on the edge of the sofa watching you for your last one and i was thinking, please be able to do it. Please be do it. Please be able to do it. Please be doit. So please be able to do it. Please bedo it. So fantastic. Be able to do it. 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Oomr up and do something about it. Oomr rush up and do something about it. Oomr tusr sh up and do something about it. Dont just sit around of, of , of dont just sit around of, of, of feeling dont just sit around of, of, of roohmo moro dont just sit around of, of, of feeling more depressed about wour feeling more depressed about your depression feeling more depressed about your depression. Your depression. Thank you so much for joining your depression. Thank you so much forjoining us today. Thank much for joining us today. Thank you very much indeed. Now now the 24 hour strike by drivers, workers for 14 Train Operating Companies and a dispute over pay is happening this weekend. The walkout was called last month by rmt and started on friday. Upheaval is expected as people travel to summer fates as they go to football matches. And go to football matches. And also, of course, the european an absolutely. Well, also, of course, the european an absolutely. Well, earlier we absolutely. Well, earlier we shoko absolutely. Well, earlier we shoko om absolutely. Well, earlier we shoko oh oh absolutely. Well, earlier we spoke on gb news c t;cg well, earlier we spoke on gb news to the soorororw spoke on gb news to the soorororw or spoke on gb news to the secretary of the rmt union , mick secretary of the rmt union, mick unsh secretary of the rmt union, mick owmoh. Ho secretary of the rmt union, mick lynch. He insisted secretary of the rmt union, mick lynch. He insisted that despite rohorrs lynch. He insisted that despite rohorrs rho lynch. He insisted that despite reports the union lynch. He insisted that despite reports the union was not ooroormo reports the union was not ooroormo ro reports the union was not targeting to disrupt any stockho targeting to disrupt any specific event, this is what he hoo specific event, this is what he hoo ro specific event, this is what he hoo ro sow. Specific event, this is what he had to say. Were specific event, this is what he had to say. Were not targeting anv had to say. Were not targeting omw ow. Om had to say. Were not targeting any event. Theres had to say. Were not targeting any event. jiiljiil any event. Theres football matches at wembley today. We hope people will enjoy them. We hope people will enjoy them. We hope that eurovision goes well and that the whole thing is a success. The reason were on strike today is because of the tory Anti Trade Union laws. As tory Anti Trade Union laws. As the talks broke down two weeks ago. We have a six month mandate that runs out tomorrow. This is that runs out tomorrow. This is the only day under that legislation with two weeks nofice legislation with two weeks notice that we could take this action following that breakdown of discussions. So weve now got another mandate that came in after that announcement. We got it a week ago or so , and that it a week ago or so, and that runs on for another six months. So the way that the tories have constructed the trade union legislation, which as we know is hostile to the trade unions and working people, means we working people, it means that we have to take this action today. Its day inside that its the only day inside that mandate it can happen. Mandate that it can happen. Whats been put on the table is thousands of cuts they thousands of job cuts that they want bring in. They want to want to bring in. They want to shut booking office shut every booking office at every station in britain. They want members terms want to change our members terms and in a detrimental, and conditions in a detrimental, detrimental. And theyre detrimental way. And theyre saying that is necessary so that they can increase efficiency to create more profit for the private sector. Train operators , they will make £400 million in profit year. And the profit this year. And the government has spent over £1. 25 billion on this dispute, which would have funded a reasonable pay would have funded a reasonable pay rise. What weve been offered is a 9 offer over two years, but we havent had a pay deal for four years. So thats basically 9 over the last four years, which isnt good enough for our people. Its not as good for our people. Its not as good as the network rail offer. And they also want us in the document to declare that the dispute is over and then go and negotiate a load of detrimental changes. And were not prepared to do that. Were not going to give up our mandate and our leverage at the negotiating table through the table halfway through the dispute. Table halfway through the dispute. That table halfway through the dispute. That was mick lynch, dispute. That was mick lynch, the dispute. That was mick lynch, rho koooor dispute. That was mick lynch, the leader of dispute. That was mick lynch, the leader of the that was mick lynch, the leader of the rmt union. Now i the leader of the rmt union. Now r oohr the leader of the rmt union. Now r oohr know the leader of the rmt union. Now i dont know about the leader of the rmt union. Now i dont know about you, but i mean , who does i dont know about you, but i mean , who does he think hes mean, who does he think hes kidding . Mean, who does he think hes kroohgo wo mean, who does he think hes kidding . We didnt target these shooto kidding . We didnt target these spoorrro tows kidding . We didnt target these spoorrro oows. Kidding . We didnt target these specific days. Is kidding . We didnt target these specific days. Is i kidding . We didnt target these specific days. Is i mean, do you specific days. Is i mean, do you rookkw specific days. Is i mean, do you really believe specific days. Is i mean, do you really believe that . I mean, hrs really believe that . I mean, its rush really believe that . I mean, hs tusr rs really believe that . I mean, its us is h really believe that . I mean, its just is it a really believe that . I mean, its just is it a coincidence . No. Its just is it a coincidence . Wo, wo its just is it a coincidence . Wo, no, its its just is it a coincidence . No, no, its not its just is it a coincidence . No, no, its not that. The srrrkos no, no, its not that. The srrrkos om no, no, its not that. The strikes on the no, no, its not that. The strikes on the same day as the oosom strikes on the same day as the oosom oorhw strikes on the same day as the epsom derby and strikes on the same day as the epsom derby and the former rmt koooor epsom derby and the former rmt koooor om epsom derby and the former rmt koooor oh rho epsom derby and the former rmt leader on the other epsom derby and the former rmt leader on the other day saying it leader on the other day sayingi h romomhor leader on the other day saying h romomhor mw it wasnt. And i do remember my rail in liverpool deliberately targeted a time that the aintree was on the grand national was on because they said they wanted to raise the issue. But that upset they are causing. And we did a poll for this show with gb news viewers and have weve done a poll and it said our are the rail unions losing support by holding strike action to coincide with these big events like the eurovision, like the fa cup final and what have they said . Yes absolutely. Overwhelmingly 85 of people saying the rail unions are losing support because theyre doing these things, disrupting everybody, trying to have a bit of fun, a bit of enjoyment. And what else have our viewers said about these rail strikes . They said, you know what, time for driverless trains . And other people have been saying , do you people have been saying, do you know were using the bus know what . Were using the bus now railway. So now rather than the railway. So i would say be careful what youre for there. When youre talking for there. When youre talking for there. When you for too much, people you ask for too much, people will dont hold us to will say no and dont hold us to ransom because well also say no. And talks about drivers no. And he talks about drivers havent had a pay deal for the last couple of years. Remember weve been in lockdown for a couple of years. The government took over the railways by about 60 and put in 16 billion. I made sure that even though no one was travelling the train, they travelling on the train, they all paid. They paid all got paid. They all got paid hoo. All got paid. They all got paid roo. Rhow all got paid. They all got paid roo. Mowoor got c they all got paid 100. They get furloughed got c they all got paid 100. Get ty get furloughed got c they all got paid 100. Get ty 8 furloughed got c they all got paid 100. Get ty 8 anyway. Ed got c they all got paid 100. Get ty 8 anyway. Let and get down to 8 anyway. Let us know and get down to 8 anyway. 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But even if the strikes want to disrupt your wonderful event , we are all wonderful event, we are all geanng wonderful event, we are all gearing up for the Eurovision Song Contest. That is being hosted in liverpool. The uk is hosted in liverpool. The uk is hosting hosted in liverpool. The uk is hosrho rho hosted in liverpool. The uk is hosting the contest hosted in liverpool. The uk is hosting the contest on t the uk is hosting the contest on behalf of josh hosting the contest on behalf of kosr woors hosting the contest on behalf of last years winners, ukraine, omo last years winners, ukraine, omo our last years winners, ukraine, and our reporter last years winners, ukraine, and our reporter sophie reaper is h and our reporter sophie reaper is in liverpool and our reporter sophie reaper is in liverpool enjoying all the party is in liverpool enjoying all the how omo is in liverpool enjoying all the how omo whors is in liverpool enjoying all the party and whats going on. Sohhro party and whats going on. Sophie well, party and whats going on. Sophie � jfoj t;cc g party and whats going on. Sophie g g party and whats going on. Sophie well, good morning to you both. Welcome to liverpool and welcome to the M S Bank Arena where just here people are queuing for this afternoons dress rehearsal, queuing for this afternoons dress rehearsal , the final dress dress rehearsal, the final dress rehearsal before tonights big show. Its the opportunity for the 26 countries competing for the 26 countries competing for the title to have one last practise before the big event tonight. So people are already queuing. Theyre getting in the spirit out here in liverpool. So lets speak to a couple of people all in this queue. Lucy and kate, good morning to you both. Happy eurovision day. Tell both. Happy eurovision day. Tell me how excited you are to be attending tonight. Well, this afternoon , dress rehearsal afternoon, dress rehearsal beyond is honestly, im married. Im happy. And this is the best day of my life. Thats quite a statement best day of my life. Thats quite a statement. t c thats quite a statement. But what does quite a statement. But what does it quite a statement. But what does to moon quite a statement. But what does to ro quite a statement. But what does to ro wou quite a statement. But what does it mean to you both quite a statement. But what does it mean to you both to have it in it mean to you both to have it ho ho it mean to you both to have it ho ho uk it mean to you both to have it in the uk that it mean to you both to have it in the uk that means youre able to in the uk that means youre able ro orroho in the uk that means youre able ro orooho. In the uk that means youre able ro orooho. 0h in the uk that means youre able to attend. Oh, its in the uk that means youre able to attend. Oh, its fantastic. To attend. Oh, its fantastic. I to attend. Oh, its fantastic. R mom to attend. Oh, its fantastic. I mean, weve been to attend. Oh, its fantastic. I mean, weve been following for years and years and years, so to have somewhere that you can just jump have somewhere that you can just jump on a train or not train , jump on a train or not train, jump, jump a car and get to jump, jump in a car and get to it, its just been , oh, its it, its just been, oh, its great. And liverpool has excelled itself. What about yourself . Yeah, excelled itself. What about yourself . Yeah, well, were just yourself . Yeah, well, were just roohw yourself . Yeah, well, were just roooow ouokw yourself . Yeah, well, were just really lucky because 7 yeah, well, were just really lucky because were such hko wo really lucky because were such. Like we booked like eurovision geeks. We booked ourhook like eurovision geeks. We booked our back october our hotel back in october last year when it was announced that it was going to be in seven cities and booked hotels in cities and we booked hotels in each in case. And so each one just in case. And so here are. That right. Here we are. That is right. Real organisation. Very impressive. What do you make of impressive. What do you make of the atmosphere here in liverpool . Wonderful. Liverpool . Its just wonderful. Yeah, its just fun. Its yeah, yeah, its just fun. Its kowokw yeah, yeah, its just fun. Its kowokw thor yeah, yeah, its just fun. Its lovely that its yeah, yeah, its just fun. Its lovely that its not just the , hs lovely that its not just the arena , its everywhere go, arena, its everywhere you go, owow arena, its everywhere you go, owow , arena, its everywhere you go, oworw , owow arena, its everywhere you go, oworw , oworw hor arena, its everywhere you go, every , every bar has got every, every bar has got eurovision every, every bar has got eurovision based things and its rust. Eurovision based things and its just hrs eurovision based things and its rusr, rrs rush eurovision based things and its just, its just great. Cj� { t c just, its just great. Of course were hosting this year on behalf of ukraine. What kind of job behalf of ukraine. What kind of toh oo behalf of ukraine. What kind of too to wou behalf of ukraine. What kind of too to wou rhhk what kind of job do you think liverpool have oomo job do you think liverpool have tom of job do you think liverpool have done of hosting job do you think liverpool have done of hosting on behalf of the orhor done of hosting on behalf of the other nation . Done of hosting on behalf of the other nation . No, done of hosting on behalf of the other nation . No, think its other nation . No, i think its hko other nation . No, i think its like multiculturalism that other nation . No, i think its like feel multiculturalism that other nation . No, i think its like feel here culturalism that other nation . No, i think its like feel here anyway,sm that other nation . No, i think its like feel here anyway, not hat other nation . No, i think its like feel here anyway, not just you feel here anyway, not just wane, you feel here anyway, not just ukroholwou you feel here anyway, not just ukraine,you hear you feel here anyway, not just ukraine, you hear different ukraine, but you hear different voices, different ukraine, but you hear different voices, different accents, ohrorom voices, different accents, different languages. C different languages. And its rust. Different languages. And its rush kooh different languages. And its just. Yeah, everyone is welcome and just fun. Its and its just, just fun. Its just it is. I think theyve done an outstanding job. They really, really have. Its ukraine flags everywhere and everyones just been so positive about it. Thank you so much, ladies, for your time. Of you so much, ladies, for your time. Of course, i think thats time. Of course, i think thats a time. Of course, i think thats o somrmom time. Of course, i think thats a sentiment thats c of course, i think thats a sentiment thats being shared by a sentiment thats being shared hw hor a sentiment thats being shared by not rush a sentiment thats being shared by not rush rho a sentiment thats being shared by not just the people in this ououo by not just the people in this ououo mor by not just the people in this ououo not rush by not just the people in this queue, not just the people oroumo queue, not just the people oroumo rho queue, not just the people around the arena, but everyone in horror around the arena, but everyone in liverpool who around the arena, but everyone in liverpool who ive spoken to rho in liverpool who ive spoken to rho ooso in liverpool who ive spoken to over the past few in liverpool who ive spoken to over the past few days has shoroo over the past few days has shared that over the past few days has shared that opinion that uwomook shared that opinion that liverpool has shared that opinion that liverpool has done such a phomomomok liverpool has done such a phenomenal job of not only hosrho phenomenal job of not only hosrmo hur phenomenal job of not only hosting but sharing this with ukroho. Hosting but sharing this with ukraine. Sophie hosting but sharing this with ukraine. T t; 3 hosting but sharing this with ukraine. 3 ukraine. Sophie reaper thank you so much indeed for taking the time to join us and the sun shining. I mean, i mean, what a what a fantastic time. Loads of what a fantastic time. Loads of people said this what a fantastic time. Loads of people said this has c c loads of people said this has been the rohrrrh people said this has been the rohrrrh or people said this has been the rebirth of the people said this has been the rebirth of the eurovision song comosr. Rebirth of the Eurovision Song Contest. Having rebirth of the Eurovision Song Contest. Having it in liverpool , putting contest. Having it in liverpool , ourrmo rho contest. Having it in liverpool , putting the life contest. Having it in liverpool , putting the life back in. I rowo , putting the life back in. I too who , putting the life back in. I love what that , putting the life back in. I love what that lady said. Im morrroo love what that lady said. Im morrrou oru love what that lady said. Im married and yet love what that lady said. Im married and yet this is the best day of my life. I mean, what i mean, i dont know whether my husband was watching that, but if he was, he might have something that. Something to say about that. But absolutely well absolutely terrific stuff. Well let you think about let us know what you think about whether or not weve had about whether or not weve had about whether zelenskyy is allowed to speak at the at the Eurovision Song Contest. He isnt. Let us song contest. He isnt. Let us know you think that. Know what you think about that. Your coming in your views have been coming in thick other thick and fast about other issues us talking about issues. Esther us talking about the conservative esther us talking about the conservative democratic oroomsorrom the conservative Democratic Organisation this morning, the it organisation this morning, the h ismr organisation this morning, the it isnt democratic enough. The comsoworwo it isnt democratic enough. The conservative party, sandra says we conservative party, sandra says wo oroor conservative party, sandra says we didnt vote conservative party, sandra says we didnt vote for conservative party, sandra says we didnt vote for rishi. I oomsokkoo we didnt vote for rishi. I cancelled my we didnt vote for rishi. I cancelled my membership and feel homokoss cancelled my membership and feel homokoss or cancelled my membership and feel homeless at present. She wanted to homeless at present. She wanted ro howo homeless at present. She wanted ro howo o homeless at present. She wanted ro howo o ooro homeless at present. She wanted to have a vote in homeless at present. She wanted to have a vote in the leader and rom to have a vote in the leader and tom sows to have a vote in the leader and tom sows rrs to have a vote in the leader and john says its such to have a vote in the leader and john says its such a joy worohho john says its such a joy watching you john says its such a joy watching you both the watching you both in the momhos watching you both in the mornings your watching you both in the morningsyour esther mornings and your smile. Esther homo mornings and your smile. Esther homomw mornings and your smile. Esther lightsmy day why mornings and your smile. Cgtcs t why, thank mornings and your smile. C gtctr t why, thank you lights up my day. Why, thank you very lights up my day. Why, thank you wowhoooo lights up my day. Why, thank you veryindeed. Well, lights up my day. Why, thank you veryindeed. Well, look, very much indeed. Well, look, rhoros very much indeed. Well, look, theresstill very much indeed. Well, look, theres still coming theres lots more still coming up theres lots more still coming uhlrho theres lots more still coming uhlrho hoor theres lots more still coming uplthe next hour. Theres lots more still coming up the next hour. Well be up in the next hour. Well be tormoo up in the next hour. Well be. Joined reclaim joined by leader of the reclaim party joined by leader of the reclaim party , joined by leader of the reclaim party , laurence joined by leader of the reclaim party , laurence fox, after party, laurence fox, after amorow party, laurence fox, after andrew became party, laurence fox, after. Andrewbecame his andrew bridgen became his partys andrew bridgen became his porrws rush andrew bridgen became his partys first member of parliament. Partys first member of parliament. � jfoht; cc got g partys first member of parliament. Well be going live to an anti ulez rally where well be joined by howard cox, whos standing reform whos standing as the reform party in the london Party Candidate in the london mayoral elections. So dont go ohwwhoro. Mayoral elections. So dont go omwwhoro. Show mayoral elections. So dont go anywhere. Stay with mayoral elections. So dont go anywhere. Stay with. T so dont go anywhere. Stay with. Us anywhere. Stay with. Us hello thoro anywhere. Stay with. Us hello there. Welcome anywhere. Stay with. Us hello there. Welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast. Im greg news weather forecast. Im Greg Dewhurst and yes , saturday is dewhurst and yes, saturday is looking pretty fine across much of the uk. There will still be some Cloud Holding on to eastern parts, but overall pretty settled thanks to this area of high pressure. Does it hold on for the whole weekend . Well, this weather front will move in across parts of scotland and Northern Ireland on sunday. And then later on, push further south introduce colder air south and introduce colder air into monday. South and introduce colder air into monday. But for the south and introduce colder air into monday. But for the rest of into monday. But for the rest of saturday, for many of us, plenty of warm sunshine to come. The low cloud just just hanging on across eastern parts of the midlands towards the wash area, some eastern coast of england , some eastern coast of england, perhaps scotland too. So temperatures here struggling to get into double figures. A cold day , but for the vast majority, day, but for the vast majority, high teens, locally low 20. So feeling nice in that mid may sunshine into the evening and overnight a fine end to the day the low cloud starts slowly creeping back inland across parts of england. And theres that weather front moving in across parts of Northern Ireland, northwest scotland into the early hours under clear spells. Well see temperatures dip into single figures. But a frost free night for all and a mixed start to sunday morning. Low across eastern parts low cloud across eastern parts of england. Once more, some mist and murk elsewhere, rain and murk elsewhere, the rain across scotland and Northern Ireland through the day just slowly a little further slowly pushes a little further south and east, making its way eventually into parts of northern perhaps northern england, perhaps coastal wales and coastal fringes of wales and southwest england later on in the day. But ahead of this , the the day. But ahead of this, the low cloud starts to lift and break and well see sunny spells and up and temperatures again up to around degrees, colder behind around 22 degrees, colder behind this frontal system across parts of scotland and Northern Ireland into the evening. This front continues to slowly push its way south eastwards. Some of the south eastwards. Some of the rain could be heavy at times, but there will be some dry interludes so not interludes in there. So not overly behind it, overly persistent behind it, clearer a few showers clearer spells and a few showers that turns into showers for many of us on monday and tuesday. But brighter feeling brighter by wednesday, feeling fresher all for every sunday fresher for all for every sunday from 11. Join Michael Portillo. From 11. Join Michael Portillo. Moro from 11. Join Michael Portillo. Rhoro wru from 11. Join Michael Portillo. There will be from 11. Join Michael Portillo. There will be topical discussion looking at the week before and the week to come. So kick back omo the week to come. So kick back omo rokok the week to come. So kick back omo rokok or the week to come. So kick back and relax at 11 the week to come. So kick back and relax at 11 a. M. The week to come. So kick back and relax at 11 am. On t so kick back and relax at 11 am. On sundays and relax at 11 a. M. On sundays on and relax at 11 am. On sundays oh oh and relax at 11 am. On sundays oh oh wows and relax at 11 am. On sundays on gb news with and relax at 11 am. On sundays on gb news with me, michael homoto on gb news with me, michael romkko oh on gb news with me, Michael Portillo gb news on gb news with me, Michael Portillo gb news the peoples chomoh portillo gb news the peoples channel, britains portillo gb news the peoples channel, britains news. Channel oh channel oh. Welcome to saturday morning with esther and phil. First up this hour esther and phil. First up this hour wru esther and phil. First up this hour with ho esther and phil. First up this hour will be laurence rtt c first up this hour will be laurence fox, koooor hour will be laurence fox, koooor or hour will be laurence fox, leader of the hour will be laurence fox, leader of the reclaim party. But who leader of the reclaim party. But with ho leader of the reclaim party. But will he remain leader of the reclaim party. 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Founder of fair fuel uk and champion of the motorist fair fuel uk and champion of the motorist howard fair fuel uk and champion of the motorist howard cox joins us to root motorist howard cox joins us to oohwhw motorist howard cox joins us to rokklwhw hos motorist howard cox joins us to tellwhy hes now motorist howard cox joins us to tell why hes now going to be tell us why hes now going to be showing tell us why hes now going to be shooting for tell us why hes now going to be standing for the tell us why hes now going to be standing for the mayor of oomooh standing for the mayor of london. Of standing for the mayor of london. { t c standing for the mayor of. London. Of course , its london. And of course, its eurovision night. Arent we all oosrorro eurovision night. Arent we all ecstatic about eurovision night. Arent we all ecstatic about it . Eurovision night. Arent we all ecstatic about it . No c. T g arent we all ecstatic about it . No liverpool wru ecstatic about it . No liverpool wrkk ho ecstatic about it . No liverpool will be hosting ecstatic about it . No liverpool will be hosting the singing oomosr will be hosting the singing oomosr. Will be hosting the singing contest. Bucks will be hosting the singing contest. Bucks fizz memberjay contest. Bucks fizz member jay ashor contest. Bucks fizz member jay ksrom tohs contest. Bucks fizz member jay ksrom rohs us contest. Bucks fizz member jay aston joins us live contest. Bucks fizz member jay aston joins us live from there to aston joins us live from there ro rou aston joins us live from there ro rook us aston joins us live from there to tell us what aston joins us live from there to tell us what its like and who to tell us what its like and who to to tell us what its like and what it takes to tell us what its like and what it takes to to tell us what its like and what it takes to win. And as okwows what it takes to win. And as okwows wo what it takes to win. And as always, we want what it takes to win. And as always, we want to hear from wou. Always, we want to hear from wou. So always, we want to hear from wou. So oor always, we want to hear from you. So get involved always, we want to hear from you. G tc t always, we want to hear from you. Got t you. So get involved in the show. Email us at gbviews gbnews. Uk or tweet us at gbviews gbnews. Uk or tweet us at gb views news. But first, its time for the latest headlines with rory. Thank you very much, with rory. Thank you very much, osrhor. With rory. Thank you very much, osrhor. Rho with rory. Thank you very much, esther. The latest with rory. Thank you very much, esther. The latest from 3 3 thank you very much, esther. The latest from the newsroom. Nicole has been made for o newsroom. Nicole has been made for o shooto newsroom. Nicole has been made for a special summit to bring an omo for a special summit to bring an omo ro for a special summit to bring an omo ho ho for a special summit to bring an end to the toxic for a special summit to bring an end to the toxic rail dispute. Kwr end to the toxic rail dispute. Kwr urroh end to the toxic rail dispute. Rmt union boss end to the toxic rail dispute. Rmt union boss mick lynch has wrhroh rmt union boss mick lynch has wrhrom ro rmt union boss mick lynch has written to the rmt union boss mick lynch has written to the government ookhmo written to the government ookhmo hor written to the government calling for a written to the government calling for a meeting with an moooohoom calling for a meeting with an independent chair. If necessary, to independent chair. If necessary, ro omo independent chair. If necessary, ro omo whor independent chair. If necessary, to end what hes independent chair. If necessary, to end what hes described as choos to end what hes described as ohoos oh to end what hes described as ohoos oh rho to end what hes described as chaos on the railways. Well, it comes as passengers face yet omorhor comes as passengers face yet omorhor oow comes as passengers face yet another day of comes as passengers face yet another day of disruption with wororsk another day of disruption with workers again another day of disruption with workers again joining picket hoos workers again joining picket hmos. Woro workers again joining picket lines. More strikes are set to be lines. More strikes are set to ho horo lines. More strikes are set to ho hoko om lines. More strikes are set to be held on 31st lines. More strikes are set to be held on 31st of may and the 3rd be held on 31st of may and the oro or be held on 31st of may and the oro of rum. Be held on 31st of may and the 3rd of june. Thats be held on 31st of may and the 3rd of june. Thats the day of rho 3rd of june. Thats the day of rho ro 3rd of june. Thats the day of ho ho cup 3rd of june. Thats the day of the fa cup final 3rd of june. Thats the day of the fa cup final at wembley. 3rd of june. Thats the day of the fa cup final at wembley. The the fa cup final at wembley. The unions general the fa cup final at wembley. The unions general secretary is booming unions general secretary is uoommo rho unions general secretary is blaming the government for forum; blaming the government for rorhmo ro blaming the government for failing to negotiate. T failing to negotiate. This oowommohr failing to negotiate. This government is failing to negotiate. This government is determined to keep this dispute going because theyve got issues in in health care and with the nurses and the doctors, with the teachers and theyre trying to clamp down on working peoples pay. So that they can transfer that wealth to they can transfer that wealth to the rich people of this society, where dividends and profits are up. The where dividends and profits are up. The Stock Exchange is up. The economy is growing, but they want do that on the basis of want to do that on the basis of low pay. Were not prepared low pay. And were not prepared to. Karim khan sir to accept that. Karim khan sir keir says labour is on keir starmer says labour is on track ahead of the next general election , but did admit that election, but did admit that more work needs to be done dunng more work needs to be done during a speech in london, the leader set out his hope to change the entire culture and dna of his party. He also said he dna of his party. He also said ho okhoors dna of his party. He also said he expects next dna of his party. He also said he expects next years j v t he also said he expects next Years Campaign to he expects next Years Campaign ro oor he expects next Years Campaign o to throw he expects next Years Campaign o to throw omo he expects next Years Campaign to get dirty and nasty after oohours to get dirty and nasty after labours local to get dirty and nasty after labours local election success as labours local election success os wou. Labours local election success os wou. Rho labours local election success as well. The government has ooousoo as well. The government has ooousoo shr as well. The government has accused sir keir as well. The government has accused sir keir of peddling a owmook accused sir keir of peddling a cynical rebrand, accused sir keir of peddling a cynical rebrand, but he says the partys cynical rebrand, but he says the porrws oworhouk cynical rebrand, but he says the partys overhaul is cynical rebrand, but he says the partys overhaul is about more rhom partys overhaul is about more rhom rush partys overhaul is about more than just distancing itself from the than just distancing itself from rho orowous than just distancing itself from the previous regime. The labour party the previous regime. The labour rohw wru the previous regime. The labour how with omkw the previous regime. The labour party will only restore hope in the party will only restore hope in rho ooumrw party will only restore hope in rho ooumrw h party will only restore hope in the country if we party will only restore hope in the country if we once again hooomo the country if we once again hooomo rho the country if we once again become the natural vehicle for workho become the natural vehicle for working people become the natural vehicle for working people. t g working people. An agent for their hopes and aspirations as a party of the common good. Now, party of the common good. Now, some people think that all were doing is distancing ourselves from the previous regime. Well, from the previous regime. Well, we are, but that misses the point. This is about taking our party point. This is about taking our porrw took point. This is about taking our porrw took ro point. This is about taking our party back to where this is about taking our party back to where we belong. Party back to where we belong. Homeowners are party back to where we belong. Homeowners are being party back to where we belong. Homeowners are being warned theres more mortgage pain to come. The Resolution Foundation found that the growing popularity of fixed rates and longer term deals means that many borrowers are yet to see the impact of rising interest rates. Well, this week the bank of england increased the base rate from 4. 25 to 4. 5. Property expert Richard Blanco told us the market is slowing down. We have seen the market get a little bit more buoyant. And little bit more buoyant. And again, its you know, its defying again, its you know, its defying expectations because we did defying expectations because we oro ooroo defying expectations because we did expect prices defying expectations because we did expect prices to fall omwrhmo did expect prices to fall anything between 5 and 12 this woor. Anything between 5 and 12 this woor. Knu anything between 5 and 12 this woor. Kno rho anything between 5 and 12 this year. And the market anything between 5 and 12 this year. c year. And the market doesnt seem to be suffering quite as badly as wed expected. So again, some surprises there. Of course , we know from the bank of course, we know from the bank of england that were not expecting to into recession this year to go into recession this year after all, and thats one of the reasons why the bank of england is putting rates up. The is still putting rates up. The government has cc cc g c. The government has defended sat rosrs government has defended sat rosrs hw government has defended sat hosts by sowmo government has defended sat tests by saying theyre supposed to tests by saying theyre supposed ho ho tests by saying theyre supposed to be challenging tests by saying theyre supposed to be challenging for year six sruooms. To be challenging for year six students. Its to be challenging for year six students. Its after to be challenging for year six students. C students. Its after hundreds of parents complained that the exam was too difficult and left some pupils in tears. Was too difficult and left some pupils in tears. The National Pupils in tears. The National Association of head teachers has also raised concerns and plans to take the issue up with the schools regulator. Quual britains Defence Ministry says Russian Forces have withdrawn from their positions in southern bakhmut in bad order. The withdrawal over the last four days has seen ukraine regain at least a kilometre of territory. Moscow though, has acknowledged that it forces have fallen back after a new ukrainian offensive. President Vladimir Zelenskyy has promised more weapons to his soldiers. It comes as he arrived in rome this morning to meet with the pope. Self testing kits with the pope. Self testing kits for hepatitis c are now available from the nhs in england. The free service is in place for people who feel they cant go to their gp. The potentially fatal condition has symptoms which can go unnoticed for years. It tends to affect current or past drug users and people who have had contact with infected blood. Two new official infected blood. Two new official portraits of king charles alongside his heirs, have been released. His majesty is released. His majesty is pictured alongside the prince of wales and Prince George in the throne room of Buckingham Palace. On the day of the coronation. Another picture shows both the king and the queen with their pages of honour and ladies in attendance. Home hotel prices in attendance. Home hotel prices in most european cities have risen by more than 50 since last summer. By more than 50 since last summer. Research by more than 50 since last summer. Research from post summer. Research from post Office Travel money has found that madrid is the most expensive out of 35 holiday destinations , as it will now destinations, as it will now cost nearly £400 to stay in the spanish capital for just two nights. Thats up £161 from last year. Nights. Thats up £161 from last year. Other expensive year. Other expensive destinations include berlin, amsterdam and venice. The uk is amsterdam and venice. The uk is eurovision entry. Mayor mueller says she is ready to get the show on the road. Thats ahead of tonights final in liverpool. It global audience of 160 Million Viewers are expected to tune in to see 26 acts perform at the M S Bank Arena. The uk agreed to host the contest on behalf of last years winners, ukraine, while alesha dixon, Hannah Warrington and Graham Norton are in the hosting line up as ipsis gb news. Well bring you more as it happens. Now, though, back to esther and phil im thanks, rory. Is it because of those thanks, rory. Is it because of rhoso huoo thanks, rory. Is it because of those huge surges those huge surges in hotel prices . Those huge surges in hotel prices . Youre those huge surges in hotel prices . Youre not taking me to hoouo prices . Youre not taking me to hoouo hor prices . Youre not taking me to madrid for the prices . Youre not taking me to madrid for thei prices . Youre not taking me to madrid for the i dont madrid for the weekend. I dont know oo madrid for the weekend. I dont know go oml know why you want to go on hohoow know why you want to go on hohoowhur know why you want to go on holiday but were know why you want to go on. Holidaybut were not holiday this year, but were not going holiday this year, but were not going ro holiday this year, but were not going rokrror holiday this year, but were not going to after what. Holiday this year, but were not. Going to after what rory going to madrid. After what rory was no chance. Was saying. There no chance. Now conservative mp now former conservative mp amorow now former conservative mp amorowhos now former conservative mp andrew has joined the andrew bridgen has joined the kookorm andrew bridgen has joined the reclaim this andrew bridgen has joined the reclaim this week. This reclaim party this week. This mokos reclaim party this week. This mokos hrm reclaim party this week. This makes him the reclaim party this week. This makes him the first sitting mp for rho makes him the first sitting mp to ho porrw makes him the first sitting mp for the party led makes him the first sitting mp for the party led by laurence row. For the party led by laurence rok. Wou for the party led by laurence fox. Well pleased now to be tormoo fox. Well pleased now to be romoo by fox. Well pleased now to be joined by laurence himself. Laurence, thank joined by laurence himself. Laurence, thank you joined by laurence himself. Laurence, thank you so joined by laurence himself. Laurence, thank you so much for taking the time to join us. I just wondered from your perspective, significant it perspective, how significant it is. Andrew bridgen joining the reclaim party. And we were we were just speculating between us, are you going to remain as party leader or are you going to hand the baton over to andrew now . Hes sort of there in in parliament behalf. If it parliament on your behalf. If it sounds like a brilliant idea, save me all the all the fuss. I think it is very significant think it is very significant hooouso think it is very significant because essentially what the conservatives because essentially what the conservatives did by throwing amorow conservatives did by throwing andrew bridgen conservatives did by throwing andrew bridgen out of the party was andrew bridgen out of the party rhow andrew bridgen out of the party was they depriving his constituents was they depriving his constituents in North West Leicestershire constituents in North West Leicestershire of a very, very hrrkhom leicestershire of a very, very brilliant mp. Leicestershire of a very, very brilliant mp. So leicestershire of a very, very brilliant mp. So our job brilliant mp. So ourjob essentially brilliant mp. So ourjob essentially was just to say no, rook. Essentially was just to say no, rook. 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And thats and the way rhor rhol that he was spoken to, the way thor that he was spoken to, the way that hancock that he was spoken to, the way that hancock shut that he was spoken to, the way that hancock shut him down that matt hancock shut him down wrrh that matt hancock shut him down with this that matt hancock shut him down with this who that matt hancock shut him down with this vile and that matt hancock shut him down with this vile and baseless or with this vile and baseless smear of anti semitism in the houso smear of anti semitism in the houso or smear of anti semitism in the house of parliament, which was ooworoo house of parliament, which was ooworoo by house of parliament, which was covered by parliamentary prhwhkooo covered by parliamentary privilege. Subsequent privilege. But his subsequent rwoor privilege. But his subsequent tweet wasnt. Privilege. But his subsequent tweet wasnt. Just goes to tweet wasnt. It just goes to show tweet wasnt. It just goes to show how tweet wasnt. It just goes to show how absolutely out of touch the show how absolutely out of touch rho oro show how absolutely out of touch rho oro whh show how absolutely out of touch the are with the. The conservatives are with the poohko the conservatives are with the poopkoowor the conservatives are with the people over free the conservatives are with the people over free speech. And people and over free speech. And amorow people and over free speech. And andrew bridgen people and over free speech. And andrew bridgen absolutely andrew bridgen is absolutely moho andrew bridgen is absolutely mom rho right and duty to ask the ouosrroms right and duty to ask the questions that right and duty to ask the questions that he did within the houso wow questions that he did within the. House now lawrence, house of commons. Now lawrence, the house of commons. Now lawrence, rhothor house of commons. Now lawrence, rhorhor oor house of commons. 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Now , crime against humanity since the holocaust. Now , my crime against humanity since the holocaust. Uotruo c t holocaust. Now, my position is that i dont agree with that. I mean, weve had, you know , assad mean, weve had, you know, assad gassing his own people in syria and the rwandan genocide and all the rest of it. So i cant i cant accept that that can possibly be true. But but i personally, i dont think he should lost the should have lost the conservative whip for saying it. Thats thats my personal thats my thats my personal view is it your view that you dont agree with him . But he should he shouldnt have. He should he shouldnt have. He should be free to be able to say that . Is it your and your that . Or is it your and your partys view that you actually agree that . And. Well, agree with that . And. Well, rhoros agree with that . And. Well, rhoros o agree with that . And. Well, theres a couple agree with that . And. Well, theres a couple of rtgot; t; ctrtc7 and. 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The second thing here is that andrew hrrogoh thing here is that andrew bridgen doesnt operate his own rwhror bridgen doesnt operate his own twitter account bridgen doesnt operate his own twitter account at bridgen doesnt operate his own twitter account at that time, thor twitter account at that time, rhor rwoor twitter account at that time, that tweet was twitter account at that time, that tweet was sent out by his own chairman. That tweet was sent out by his. Own chairman within own conservative chairman within the own conservative chairman within rho oomsrhuomow. Own conservative chairman within the constituency. So they ohwouskw the constituency. So they obviously didnt think it was anti semitic obviously didnt think it was anti semitic either. I think whors rho anti semitic either. I think. Whats the reclaim whats happened, the reclaim rohws whats happened, the reclaim horrws wow whats happened, the reclaim horrws h whats happened, the reclaim partys view in general, is that we partys view in general, is that wo shouko partys view in general, is that we should have partys view in general, is that we should have free speech and ohowo we should have free speech and ohowo oh. We should have free speech and ohowo oh. Wo we should have free speech and above all, we should have free shoooh or speech in the house of parliament. Speech in the house of parliament. We are running at 22, parliament. We are running at 22. Rush parliament. We are running at 22. Rusr oo parliament. We are running at 22, just over 20 parliament. We are running at 22, just over 20 excess deaths on rho 22, just over 20 excess deaths on rho hwo 22, just over 20 excess deaths on the five year 22, just over 20 excess deaths on the five year average. Now for parliament on the five year average. 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So the reclaim party essentially are just going where are essentially are just going where rho essentially are just going where are the conservatives now . Crtt are the conservatives now . Can i osk are the conservatives now . Can i osk wou are the conservatives now . Can i osk wou o are the conservatives now . Can i osk wou o question are the conservatives now . Can i ask you a question . Are the conservatives now . Can i ask you a question . What is the ask you a question . What is the mission of the reclaim party . Its really difficult as a new party to set up and get however many mps in the house. Are you just going to be a disruptor . So top conservative mps winning in certain areas or have you got a Bigger Mission than that . Well Bigger Mission than that . Well look, were quite were not the biggest organisation. You know, i work on biggest organisation. You know, r work on ouho biggest organisation. You know, i work on quite a biggest organisation. You know, i work on quite a tight w gt trt you know, i work on quite a tight budget. Rho i work on quite a tight budget. Rho homkho i work on quite a tight budget. The Banking System in the United Kingdom the Banking System in the United Kingdom hos the Banking System in the United Kingdom has done the Banking System in the United Kingdom has done everything it can kingdom has done everything it ro kingdom has done everything it ro orthor kingdom has done everything it can to either leant on or not by rho can to either leant on or not by the government can to either leant on or not by the government to can to either leant on or not by the government to not even hrowoo the government to not even provide insurgent parties with hook provide insurgent parties with hookor provide insurgent parties with hookor rho provide insurgent parties with bank at the moment. Provide insurgent parties with bankat the moment. So Bank Accounts at the moment. So i Bank Accounts at the moment. So rro Bank Accounts at the moment. So no rum Bank Accounts at the moment. So no ouho Bank Accounts at the moment. So no ouho o Bank Accounts at the moment. So i to run quite a tight i have to run quite a tight shru i have to run quite a tight shrp. Whor i have to run quite a tight ship. What were going to do isi were going to our main mission is were going to our main mission rsmomom were going to our main mission rsmomom. Were going to our main mission rsmomom. Wo were going to our main mission ismoment , we are is at the moment, we are ohwouskw is at the moment, we are obviously discussions obviously in discussions with orhor obviously in discussions with orhor peopleo obviously in discussions with other people, our main other people, but our main mrssrom other people, but our main Mission Andrewl other people, but our main Mission Andrew bridgen mission is to get andrew bridgen ro okooroo mission is to get andrew bridgen re electedexactly mission is to get andrew bridgen re elected exactly the re elected on on exactly the somothor re elected on on exactly the same that he re elected on on exactly the same that he stood re elected on on exactly the. Same that he stood on same platform that he stood on prowouskw same platform that he stood on previously successfully previously and successfully horooshg previously and successfully increasing his previously and successfully increasing his majority in every okoorrom increasing his majority in every okoorrom. Increasing his majority in every okoorrom. Vou increasing his majority in every election. You know, he is a election. You know, he is a oomumokw election. You know, he is a genuinely honourable conservative of andrew and the way conservative of andrew and the wayy0u conservative of andrew and the wowwou so conservative of andrew and the wowwou soo conservative of andrew and the way you can see how hes way that you can see how hes hormo way that you can see how hes being rrooroo way that you can see how hes being treated goes show that being treated goes to show that the being treated goes to show that rho hohsh being treated goes to show that rho homsh or being treated goes to show that the bench of the i the front bench bench of the party the front bench bench of the oorowhips the front bench bench of the horrwwhhs oro the front bench bench of the party whips are theyre party and the whips are theyre not conservative party and the whips are theyre not conservative all. Theyre party and the whips are theyre not theytrvative all. Theyre party and the whips are theyre not they just ve all. Theyre party and the whips are theyre not they just call all. Theyre party and the whips are theyre not they just call themselvesa just they just call themselves conservative. Just they just call themselves somsokooho just they just call themselves somsokooh. Just they just call themselves conseyeah no, just they just call themselves conseyeah no, i just they just call themselves conseyeah vot just they just call themselves conseyeah vt blob. Yeah no, i mean, look, Andrew Andrews a friend of mine and will continue to be a friend of even though hes in a of mine, even though hes in a different thats neither Different Party thats neither here far as our here nor there as far as our friendship is concerned. Look, i guess laurens finally. There seems to be a lot of party is in a similar space to a layman. Theres. Theres you. Theres the reform party, theres ukip , the reform party, theres ukip, theres the heritage party. I theres the heritage party. I guess if people are being unkind , they might say its a bit like the sort of peoples front of judea. All fighting over the same. Is, is i mean, are same scrap. Is, is i mean, are you not going to sort of merge with any of these other parties to try and create a bigger force in that kind of political space in that kind of political space in the country . Oh, id love in the country . Oh, id love horhho in the country . Oh, id love nothing more. In the country . Oh, id love nothing more. I t t c. 7 oh, id love nothing more. I speak to these shops nothing more. I speak to these shops oh nothing more. I speak to these shops or rho nothing more. I speak to these chaps all the time. I go, come horo chaps all the time. I go, come horo. Wor chaps all the time. I go, come horo. Woo rust chaps all the time. I go, come here. Not just come together hosouso here. Not just come together because were here. Not just come together because were all doing the same stow because were all doing the same stowr because were all doing the same stowr mooh because were all doing the same sillyi mean, not because were all doing the same silly i mean, not silly silly thing. I mean, not silly rhino. Silly thing. I mean, not silly rhho. Rrs silly thing. I mean, not silly rhmo. Rrs wow silly thing. I mean, not silly thing. Its very important silly thing. I mean, not silly thing. Butvery important silly thing. I mean, not silly thing. But the important silly thing. I mean, not silly thing. But the great rtant silly thing. I mean, not silly thing. But the great and silly thing. I mean, not silly thing. But the great and also annoying thing. But the great and also omowmo rhmo thing. But the great and also annoying thing about people on the annoying thing about people on rho somro annoying thing about people on the centre, centre annoying thing about people on the centre, centre right are thor the centre, centre right are that everyones the centre, centre right are that everyones an entrepreneur ooo that everyones an entrepreneur ooowoors that everyones an entrepreneur ooowoors ro that everyones an entrepreneur and wants to do that everyones an entrepreneur and wants to do their and Everyone Wants to do their ownso and Everyone Wants to do their ownso r and Everyone Wants to do their ownso i always and Everyone Wants to do their own so i always say to own thing. So i always say to krshoro own thing. So i always say to richard tice own thing. So i always say to richard ticesay own thing. So i always say to richard tice say to David Richard tice and i say to david ooo richard tice and i say to david oholsow richard tice and i say to david oholsow ro richard tice and i say to david and say to everybody , you and i say to everybody, you know. And i say to everybody, you know,. Should and i say to everybody, you know,. Should all and i say to everybody, you know, should all come know, we should all come togetben know, we should all come together, what together, but at the moment what woosuosoho together, but at the moment what weve suppose what makes weve got, i suppose what makes sohororos r weve got, i suppose what makes separates i wish weve got, i suppose what makes separates i wish them separates us out and i wish them all separates us out and i wish them oroor separates us out and i wish them oroor husk. Separates us out and i wish them oroor kusk. By separates us out and i wish them allof luck, by the all the best of luck, by the way, all the best of luck, by the wow. Rhowro all the best of luck, by the way, theyre enemies. All the best of luck, by the way, theyreenemies. And way, theyre not my enemies. And i way, theyre not my enemies. And r rhom way, theyre not my enemies. And r rhom h way, theyre not my enemies. And r rhom h oth way, theyre not my enemies. And i. Butthem in any way, theyre not my enemies. And i. But atthem in any way, theyre not my enemies. And i but at the them in any way, theyre not my enemies. And i but at the momentn any way, theyre not my enemies. And i but at the moment weve got way, but at the moment weve got an way, but at the moment weve got oh rhumhho way, but at the moment weve goti om rhumhmo oroor an mp whos got a thumping great motorhw an mp whos got a thumping great mororrrw h an mp whos got a thumping great mororrrw h o an mp whos got a thumping great mororrrw m o very an mp whos got a thumping great majority in a very, good majority in a very, very good sohsrhuohsw majority in a very, very good constituency , majority in a very, very good constituency , which hes turned constituency, which hes turned from constituency, which hes turned from oo constituency, which hes turned from or constituency, which hes turned from one of the constituency, which hes turned from one of the poorest parts of leicestershire from one of the poorest parts of leicestershireof leicestershire to one of the mosr leicestershire to one of the mosrhos leicestershire to one of the mosthos woul leicestershire to one of the. Mosthes you know, most affluent. Hes you know, hsroosoo most affluent. Hes you know, increased majority year on increased his majority year on woor increased his majority year on woor. Hs increased his majority year on woor. Rrs hos increased his majority year on year. Its hes, he increased his majority year on year. Its hes, he cares passionately year. Its hes, he cares passionately about that place ooo passionately about that place ooor passionately about that place ooor wom passionately about that place andi want to passionately about that place and. | want to do passionately about that place and i want to do is for the and all i want to do is for the rooms and all i want to do is for the ooopkolwohh people of North West Leicestershire mp leicestershire reclaim their mp for mom leicestershire reclaim their mp for rhom ooo leicestershire reclaim their mp for them andvery leicestershire reclaim their mp for them and very very for them and just very very rhokw for them and just very very rmoow hos for them and just very very finely hes moved to a new party finely hes moved to a new porrw. R finely hes moved to a new porrw. R mom finely hes moved to a new porrw. R r finely hes moved to a new party. T w party. I mean i accept he was removed from his original party and didnt have any choice in that. And puts a slightly that. And so it puts a slightly different on it. But as different spin on it. But as hes another hes now joined, another party should by election should he fight a by election under party, under your under your party, just no . And the answer just yes or no . And the answer is no, not unless rishi sunak calls a general election because hes unelected. Okay, lawrence, hes unelected. Okay, lawrence, thank so much for taking the thank you so much for taking the time to join this morning. Thank you so much for taking the time to join this morning. We time to join us this morning. We really, really appreciate it. Thank do indeed. And thank you. We do indeed. And were back the thank you. We do indeed. And werebacklthe studio| were wonderful the studio were wonderful broadcasters by two wonderful broadcasters ooo wokohol by two wonderful broadcasters. And malone and and journalist Carole Malone and choro and journalist Carole Malone and choirsoowo and journalist Carole Malone and clairedown there. And journalist Carole Malone and claire down there. So what claire mole down there. So what do claire mole down there. So what to wou claire mole down there. So what to wou rhhko claire mole down there. So what do you think . Should he have . Do you think . Should he have . Showo do you think . Should he have . Shouko ho do you think . Should he have . Should he stand do you think . Should he have . Should he stand and have a by election . Should he stand and have a by election . No, i agree with laurence fox by election . No, i agree with laurence fox , by election . No, i agree with laurence fox , actually. T laurence fox, actually. I mean, i laurence fox, actually. I mean, r us laurence fox, actually. I mean, r us hosouso laurence fox, actually. I mean, i do because its not like the situation scotland where the situation in scotland where the mp lost her seat because she was found guilty of covid regulations that she you know, she fraught and that by election hasnt happened. You know, i think lawrence is right. Wait till the general election. Let andrew bridgen stand as the reclaim. Isnt it quite funny, though, that youve got reclaim , youve got reform. They all begin with r so what are they going you know, when going to do . You know, when i dont know whats going to happen . So story the phil happen . So your story the phil ooo happen . So your story the phil omo how. Happen . So your story the phil omo hokkw. Kos happen . So your story the phil and holly. Yes. In happen . So your story the phil and holly. Yes. In this 7 so your story the phil and holly. Yes. In this sort of skosh and holly. Yes. In this sort of skosh. And holly. Yes. In this sort of skosh. Wru and holly. Yes. In this sort of clash , will he and holly. Yes. In this sort of clash , will he be and holly. Yes. In this sort of clash , will he be booted off itv clash, will he be booted off itv . Clash, will he be booted off itv owow clash, will he be booted off itv owow. Ho clash, will he be booted off itv. 7 well, he should clash, will he be booted off itv . Well, he should be. t; trtccg . Well, he should be. He really shouts . Well, he should be. He really should be. In my view. I mean, this is the golden couple. I mean, itv are a very awkward, very difficult Broadcasting Corporation to try and manoeuvre and try and get free speech into because everything is scripted from all the daytime. You look at lorraine, you look at it used to be gerry mchale, then it was this morning, then it goes straight to loose women. Its straight on to loose women. Its all scripted , all very all very scripted, all very heavily managed and itv do not let free speech come into that. Everything is very well produced. And got this. And weve now got this situation with phillip and holly, itv as well, had golden handcuffs to the talent agents that there. They owned that were there. They owned everything. They owned all their talent , you couldnt talent, and you couldnt move for was this about . For it. But what was this about . His for it. But what was this about . Rhrs rhohl for it. But what was this about . Rhrs rhoh. L for it. But what was this about . L rhrs rhoh. This was fundamentally then, are you this was fundamentally then, are wou ho this was fundamentally then, are wou ho root this was fundamentally then, are wou ho rooo oh this was fundamentally then, are you he read on air,i you saying what he read on air, whrsh you saying what he read on air, whrsh os you saying what he read on air, which was like, you saying what he read on air, which was like, we you saying what he read on air, which was like, we fallen out or whorowor which was like, we fallen out or whoroworlrs which was like, we fallen out or whateverlis, and which was like, we fallen out or whatever is, and were not whatever it is, and were not oorrho whatever it is, and were not gettingare whatever it is, and were not oorrmokro wou whatever it is, and were not getting are you saying that getting on . Are you saying that ssrhroo getting on . Are you saying that ssrmroo by getting on . Are you saying that was scripted by itv . So what are you was scripted by itv . So what are wou whorwoui you saying then . What are you saying . Saying for part saying . And im saying for part of now hes come of the reason now hes come out of the reason now hes come out of and of that, thats not scripted and they like that. Oh of that, thats not scripted and they like that. On was they dont like that. Oh it was because unscripted. Its because he was unscripted. Its the and actually, the control. And actually, i think of think its because of the character Phillip Schofield think its because of the chhimself Phillip Schofield think its because of the chhimself. Phillip schofield think its because of the chhimself. Wasiillip schofield think its because of the chhimself. Was it . Itshofield think its because of the chhimself. Was it . Its to ield think its because of the chhimself. Was it . Its to do is himself. Was it . Its to do whats happened t c7 its to do whats happened because i mean, rhrkhh whats happened because i mean, rhrkhh ooo whats happened because i mean, phillip and holly whats happened because i mean, phillip and holly , whats happened because i mean, phillip and holly , as far i phillip and holly, as far as i souko phillip and holly, as far as i soukoworo phillip and holly, as far as i couldwere like phillip and holly, as far as i could were like the closest could see, were like the closest sokkooouos could see, were like the closest colleagues ever could see, were like the closest colleagues ever had colleagues that youd ever had on rw colleagues that youd ever had on rv. Aho colleagues that youd ever had on tv. And thats colleagues that youd ever had on tv. And thats certainly sosokr on tv. And thats certainly closer than on tv. And thats certainly closer than you on tv. And thats certainly closer than you two. � jfoj t;cc closer than you two. Well, kossr closer than you two. Well, closer than closer than you two. Well, closer than you two. Well, closer than you two. Im closer than you two. � jfoj t;cc t ctrtt im not closer than you two. Im not sure about that, closer than you two. Im not sure about that, but. T ctrtt im not sure about that, but. Closer than you two. Im not sure about that, but. But at the rooms sure about that, but. But at the point where they used to go on houday point where they used to go on holiday did, but, holiday together, they did, but, oh, us oh, they are closer than us then. If if you then. Phil, if you if you hohowo then. Phil, if you if you believe what phil, if you if you believe what you read in the mowsoorspp believe what you read in the newspapers, which dont always newspapers, which i dont always rhoro newspapers, which i dont always rhororhhos newspapers, which i dont always therethings going newspapers, which i dont always there things going on there are other things going on horo there are other things going on horowouko there are other things going on here would havent been in here which would havent been in the here which would havent been in rho rotors here which would havent been in rho popors omo here which would havent been in the papers and not here which would havent been in the papers and not to gate osr the papers and not to gate osr h. The papers and not to gate osr h. O the papers and not to gate wasnt it. Q gate when they seem to wasnt it. Q gate when they seem ro rust wasnt it. Q gate when they seem ro tusr soom wasnt it. Q gate when they seem so rusr ro wasnt it. Q gate when they seem to just seem to be wasnt it. Q gate when they seem to just seem to be the start of with to just seem to be the start of withrs to just seem to be the start of wrrhrs rhow to just seem to be the start of withis they cant with them is they cant take srhrsrsm. With them is they cant take criticism. Iwas with them is they cant take criticism. C c c criticism. I was criticised by itv actually coming out and itv for actually coming out and saying with Eamonn Holmes and the breakfast here that it the Breakfast Show here that it was them what was wrong for them to do what they and actually said they did. And i actually said at that the show that time that the whole show needs clear out from needs a complete clear out from top. I was blaming top to bottom. I was blaming carol to blame. I mean, ive hooh carol to blame. I mean, ive hoom homot carol to blame. I mean, ive been banned from crtot c i mean, ive been banned from there as well hosouso been banned from there as well hosouso r been banned from there as well because i used been banned from there as well because i used to been banned from there as well because i used to have a go with him because i used to have a go with him oh because i used to have a go with him on twitter. Because i used to have a go with him on twitter. But because i used to have a go with him on twitter. But anyway, rhors him on twitter. But anyway,i thats unpopular. Thats hes deeply unpopular. Wor thats hes deeply unpopular. Woorho thats hes deeply unpopular. Woorhoor thats hes deeply unpopular. | nottheat this not just with the staff at this momho not just with the staff at this morning, increasingly so morning, but but increasingly so wrrh kho morning, but but increasingly so with and that morning, but but increasingly so with and that was. With the public. And that was orror with the public. And that was oroo hur with the public. And that was after but the. After gate as well. But the rhino after gate as well. But the thing rs after gate as well. But the shoe is ho after gate as well. But the thing is he looks a bit oospororo thing is he looks a bit desperate now. He made that sroromom desperate now. He made that statement without statement this week without sohsuhhg statement this week without consulting with statement this week without consulting with holly. And holly is consulting with holly. And holly rsohour consulting with holly. And holly rsohour rhrs consulting with holly. And holly is about this because is very cross about this because you is very cross about this because wou soor is very cross about this because wou somr 90 is very cross about this because you cant go making statements ohour oro you cant go making statementsi ohour orohow you cant go making statementsi abotis arehow you cant go making statementsi abotis myarehow you cant go making statements abotis my rock. Are how you cant go making statements abotis my rock. Hollys how you cant go making statements abotis my rock. Hollys notiow she is my rock. If hollys not sowho she is my rock. If hollys not sowmo omwrhmo she is my rock. If hollys not saying anything, can i ask you a outsk saying anything, can i ask you a quick question . Saying anything, can i ask you a quick question . C quick question . Was it on ouorsus quick question . Was it on autocue or did he just say it to the. No, no, no , because if it the. No, no, no, because if it was on autocue, no, no, no, because if it was on autocue, somebody else souko was on autocue, somebody else soukoroko was on autocue, somebody else could told holly, i could have told her. Holly, shores could have told her. Holly, theres script is about to theres a big script is about to read it. Well, yes, you read it. Well, yes, but you know. Read it. Well, yes, but you know. This read it. Well, yes, but you know, thisbe read it. Well, yes, but you. Know, thisbecould know, this could be this could be know, this could be this could hoorho know, this could be this could hoorho. Rhow know, this could be this could be the. They wanti know, this could be this could. Be the. They want to be part of the way they want to getof be part of the way they want to getof me. Be part of the way they want to getof he be part of the way they want to get of me. He feels like get rid of me. He feels like a desperate get rid of me. He feels like a desperate man get rid of me. He feels like a desperate man to get rid of me. He feels like a desperate man to me. And in many ways, ways, i think hes kind of getting ways, i think hes kind of gettingjust ways, i think hes kind of gettingjustnow. Getting his just desserts now. Vou getting his just desserts now. You holy. Getting his just desserts now. You holly many you know, he chose holly many years he you know, he chose holly many years he thought. You know, he chose holly many. Years he thought she years ago because he thought she wasnt years ago because he thought she wasnt going years ago because he thought she wasnt going to years ago because he thought she wasnt going to be years ago because he thought she wasnt going to be a challenge tothougm wasnt going to be a challenge. Tothougmau to him. She thought hed get all com to him. She thought hed get all ehee he to him. She thought hed get all eeeeh he hadl to him. She thought hed get all. Chose. He had a chose. Holly. Yes. Well he had a big in choosing big he had a big say in choosing her. And he chose her because he thought her. And he chose her because he thought hee her. And he chose her because he thought hedthe her. And he chose her because he thought hedthe big thought hed do all the big pehheeh thought hed do all the big political she. Thought hed do all the big. Political she would political interviews. She would never be able to overshadow him. Shee shes completely overshadowed hhh shes completely overshadowed him ene shes completely overshadowed him one earningj him now. Shes the one earning the really him now. Shes the one earning the really big him now. Shes the one earning the really big bucks from lots of shesl of sponsorship deals. Shes eerhhg of sponsorship deals. Shes eerhhg ee of sponsorship deals. Shes earning as much as him now. There earning as much as him now. Theree earning as much as him now. Theree hehh earning as much as him now. There a point where there was a point where he was earning a there was a point where he was earning amorel earning 200 grand a year more then beeh earning 200 grand a year more than been fixedi than her. Thats all been fixed ahe than her. Thats all been fixed ehhewe than her. Thats all been fixed ehehewhhg than her. Thats all been fixed andnowbig star. L than her. Thats all been fixed and now big star. So and she is now the big star. So she and she is now the big star. So shehuhheh and she is now the big star. So shepublicly she and she is now the big star. So shepublicly she is. She has said publicly she is quite she has said publicly she is quitehe she has said publicly she is quitehe ge she has said publicly she is quiteto go on she has said publicly she is quite to go on presenting quite happy to go on presenting this quite happy to go on presenting the morning quite happy to go on presenting this morning without him, which opens this morning without him, which opens the this morning without him, which opens the floodgates, of course, which opens the floodgates, of course, whichthe opens the floodgates, of course, whichthe people opens the floodgates, of course, which the people have which people the people have been which people the people have. Heeh oheeh, been punted on. Dermot oleary, hee been punted on. Dermot oleary, hesguy. Been punted on. Dermot oleary, hes guy. Hammond been punted on. Dermot oleary,. Hesguy. Hammond was hes one guy. Alison hammond was another hes one guy. Alison hammond was another ene hes one guy. Alison hammond was another. Hes one guy. Alison hammond was another one. I think hes one guy. Alison hammond was another one. I think dermot is the another one. I think dermot is the perfect another one. I think dermot is the perfect choice. Another one. I think dermot is the perfect choice. Maybe the perfect choice. Dermot maybe not on. They wouldnt need not hang on. They wouldnt need to change the name if this phil went. They could still have phil and holly. Hed be phil, hed be good. And holly. Hed be phil, hed be good. I could get rid of and good. I could get rid of and i could have dermot. But the thing is, could have dermot. But the thing he, hono could have dermot. But the thing he, hehh, h could have dermot. But the thing he, hehy, h you could have dermot. But the thing is, holly, if you watch could have dermot. But the thing is, holly, if you watch in, f h but the thing is, holly, if you watch in, by the is, holly, if you watch in, by the way, is, holly, if you watch in, by the way, hono is, holly, if you watch in, by the way, holly, if is, holly, if you watch in, by the way, holly, if youre watching, the way, holly, if youre watching, im the way, holly, if youre watching, im definitely up for hheh watching, im definitely up for hheh hm watching, im definitely up for that. Im definitely that. Im definitely up for dermot. You would have to watch it. Dermot. You would have to watch h. Te dermot. You would have to watch h. He he dermot. You would have to watch h. He he eh dermot. You would have to watch hhe he on h dermot. You would have to watch it. To be on it at dermot. You would have to watch it. To be on it at some it. Love to be on it at some point. It. Love to be on it at some hehh ahe it. Love to be on it at some hehh. Ahayou it. Love to be on it at some point. And you dont watch point. And i bet you dont watch h. Point. And i bet you dont watch h. Hh point. And i bet you dont watch h. Hm ehl it. Well, i feel as if im on. I feel as if im sitting in a cast of loose at the moment. Of loose women at the moment. Exactly. Perfectly. And exactly. To be perfectly. And you watch halfway you wouldnt watch it halfway there. But also just one thing hhehy there. But also just one thing briefly veh briefly on that. Its very disingenuous briefly on that. Its very disingenuous of itv to come out ahe disingenuous of itv to come out and have disingenuous of itv to come out now and have this disingenuous of itv to come out now and have this pr disaster on meet now and have this pr disaster on meetthe now and have this pr disaster on mostthe front now and have this pr disaster on most the front pages. Well, most of the front pages. Well, thate most of the front pages. Well, hhehe whet most of the front pages. Well, hhehe whet h most of the front pages. Well, thats what i was. Most of the front pages. Well, thats what i was. What we want is thats what i was. What we want he the thats what i was. What we want he the huh thats what i was. What we want is the truth. Okay. Thats what i was. What we want is the truth. Okay. All people thats what i was. What we want is the t|to1. Okay. All people thats what i was. What we want is the t|to know y. All people thats what i was. What we want is the t|to know is all people thats what i was. What we want is the t|to know is that,3ople thats what i was. What we want is the t|to know is that, well, needed to know is that, well, he needed to know is that, well, he he needed to know is that, well, he hot the needed to know is that, well, its not like that, needed to know is that, well, its not like that, and its not like that, clare. And i just its not like that, clare. And i he think its not like that, clare. And i just think the its not like that, clare. And i just think the whole thing needs heating just think the whole thing needs heehheh just think the whole thing needs heehhgh eh just think the whole thing needs heatingi did think just think the whole thing needs heatingi did think thej heating up. But i did think the fact was pretty much fact that it was on pretty much every which i every front page, which for me i think bit someone to think is a bit of a someone to rate story. The sun rate second rate story. The sun has the story, its it has got the story, its had it on the front pages for two days. Someone feeding the that someone is feeding the sun that that that information even thej mirror. Theyve that information even the. Mirror. Theyve all mirror. Carol yeah theyve all got mirror. Carol yeah theyve all ooh h mirror. Carol yeah theyve all ooh h ee mirror. Carol yeah theyve all ooh it so that mirror. Carol yeah theyve all got it so that is mirror. Carol yeah theyve all got it so that is being fed out of got it so that is being fed out ehmerhhe got it so that is being fed out ofmorning so got it so that is being fed out of morning so think of this morning so just think what of this morning so just thinkj whet the what all that how about this ether what all that how about this etherhose what all that how about this other rose story . Other lexie rose story . Okay. The. Other lexie rose story . Okay. Thisthis other lexie rose story . Okay. This,this story other lexie rose story . Okay. This, this story is what this, this, this story is what it all is about. This is a story about it all is about. This is a story about ahe it all is about. This is a story about and im it all is about. This is a story about and im not c this is a story about and im not going to call the about and im not going to call the teen about and im not going to call the teen hy about and im not going to call the teen hy hy about and im not going to call this person by by the female. Ahe this person by by the female. And the this person by by the female. And the h this person by by the female. And this is a this person by by the female. And this is a guy this person by by the female. And this is a guy called dominic hheeh and this is a guy called dominic hheehwee and this is a guy called dominic hheehwee h and this is a guy called dominic risen,was in court and this is a guy called dominic risen, was in court last risen, who was in Court Last Week risen, who was in Court Last Weeke risen, who was in Court Last Weeka charge risen, who was in Court Last Week a charge on a charge of week for a charge on a charge of rape week for a charge on a charge of rape. He week for a charge on a charge of rape. Hesentenced week for a charge on a charge of rape. He sentenced to nine week for a charge on a charge of rape. For sentenced to nine week for a charge on a charge of rape. For rape,3ntenced to nine week for a charge on a charge of rape. For rape, butnced to nine week for a charge on a charge of rape. For rape, but hed to nine week for a charge on a charge of rape. For rape, but he ato nine week for a charge on a charge of rape. For rape, but he a fewine years for rape, but he a few a few years for rape, but he a few a few months years for rape, but he a few a few months ago, years for rape, but he a few a few months ago, he decided he going few months ago, he decided he going he few months ago, he decided he was going to change gender. He had just was going to change gender. He had the ooh was going to change gender. He had the ooh eut was going to change gender. He had just got out of prison on chie had just got out of prison on ehhe ee had just got out of prison on child sex offences and he went out ahe child sex offences and he went out and raped child sex offences and he went out and raped a child sex offences and he went out and raped a very vulnerable hehehe out and raped a very vulnerable female friend out and raped a very vulnerable female friend who out and raped a very vulnerable female friend who has multiple hmee female friend who has multiple hhhee ehe female friend who has multiple times since tried female friend who has multiple times since tried to commit euhehee times since tried to commit suicide because times since tried to commit suicide because of this hellish eeeeuh suicide because of this hellish eeeeuh eh suicide because of this hellish assault on her. Suicide because of this hellish assault on her. This this this guy, assault on her. This this this guy, the assault on her. This this this guy, this guy assault on her. This this this guy, this guy , assault on her. This this this guy, this guy , dominic fryston, guy, this guy, dominic fryston, whe guy, this guy, dominic fryston, who who guy, this guy, dominic fryston, who who who guy, this guy, dominic fryston, who who who was guy, this guy, dominic fryston, who who who was called miss hexhe who who who was called miss hexhe hoee who who who was called miss lexie Rose Crawford all the way through lexie Rose Crawford all the way hhhoweh hhhe lexie Rose Crawford all the way through this trial. Lexie Rose Crawford all the way through this trial. And what mode through this trial. And what made me through this trial. And what made me so angry was our iwohehoh made me so angry was our judicial system made me so angry was our judicial system. Made me so angry was our judicial system. The judge kept judicial system. The judge kept on referring judicial system. The judge kept on referring to judicial system. The judge kept on referring to this rapist as ehe on referring to this rapist as ehe ohh on referring to this rapist as ehe ohh i. On referring to this rapist as she all the time, on referring to this rapist as she all the time, her penis is ehe she all the time, her penis is ehe he she all the time, her penis is she its ridiculous she all the time, her penis is she its ridiculous. And this she its ridiculous. And this who she its ridiculous. And this who of she its ridiculous. And this kind of using she its ridiculous. And this kind of using this kind of hehhhhohoow kind of using this kind of terminology in a court of law whhh terminology in a court of law whhh o terminology in a court of law whhh o oeeo terminology in a court of law with a person who was clearly a hhohoeheoh with a person who was clearly a biological male with a person who was clearly a biological male , with a person who was clearly a biological male , who has raped a biological male, who has raped a very biological male, who has raped a very vulnerable biological male, who has raped a very vulnerable woman , and the very vulnerable woman, and the iwehhee very vulnerable woman, and the iwehhee eweheh very vulnerable woman, and the Justice System affords this heeo Justice System affords this heeo i. Justice system affords this person the courtesy of being eohheo person the courtesy of being eohheo ehe person the courtesy of being called she and person the courtesy of being called she and a person the courtesy of being called she and a female. This is not called she and a female. This is no o called she and a female. This is no o hehohe. Called she and a female. This is not a female. This called she and a female. This is not a female. This is a male woheh not a female. This is a male hohheh. Not a female. This is a male hooheh. Huh not a female. This is a male rapist. But we not a female. This is a male rapist. rapist. But we should be grateful that he has gone to a male prison. Well, he has. And male prison. Well, he has. And i bet male prison. Well, he has. And i he woheh male prison. Well, he has. And i he woheh hhh male prison. Well, he has. And i bet watch him ditch male prison. Well, he has. And i bet watch him ditch his � shft� well, he has. And i bet watch him ditch his his hehohe bet watch him ditch his his female persona bet watch him ditch his his female persona within three eeoo female persona within three secondsgetting female persona within three seconds getting inside there seconds of getting inside there heeowee seconds of getting inside there heeoweehoh seconds of getting inside there because not pretend to because he will not pretend to because he will not pretend to hehh because he will not pretend to hehh theret because he will not pretend to hehh hhehet h because he will not pretend to bein there, i can. Because he will not pretend to be in there, i can tell be a woman in there, i can tell you. Be a woman in there, i can tell you. Huh be a woman in there, i can tell you. Huhhoeo be a woman in there, i can tell you. Butidea that be a woman in there, i can tell you. But idea that our you. But the idea that our eweheh you. But the idea that our eweheh lhe you. But the idea that our system is tolerating this system is, is tolerating this ehe system is, is tolerating this and enabling system is, is tolerating this and enabling its enabling this nonsense. You and enabling its enabling this nonsense. You know, this was nonsense. You know, this was he. Nonsense. You know, this was the. Who nonsense. You know, this was the. Who h nonsense. You know, this was this. And i wonder if the trans hheooe this. And i wonder if the trans hheooe , this. And i wonder if the trans brigade , you this. And i wonder if the trans brigade , you know, the trans brigade, you know, the trans organisations brigade, you know, the trans organisations are happy about hheee organisations are happy about these criminals organisations are happy about these criminals using, you know, prehehohhe these criminals using, you know, pretending theyre these criminals using, you know, pretending theyre theyre hehohe pretending theyre theyre hehohe ho pretending theyre theyre female to commit vile crimes and heeowee female to commit vile crimes and heeowee h female to commit vile crimes and because if theyre female to commit vile crimes and because if theyre not happy about because if theyre not happy about he because if theyre not happy about it, they because if theyre not happy about it, they should speak out ehe about it, they should speak out and hey about it, they should speak out and they should about it, they should speak out and they should condemn. Thats where and they should condemn. Thats where there and they should condemn. Thats where there should and they should condemn. Thats where there should be clear laws and as you say, if you are still with a penis, yes, then you will go into a male prison. I mean, you need to have clear guidance and you will be referred to the government as well as man. Government as well as a man. When raped woman , its when youve raped a woman, its to when youve raped a woman, its hohh when youve raped a woman, its hohh mohee when youve raped a woman, its toit makes total when youve raped a woman, its to it makes total sense. Why to me it makes total sense. Why do to me it makes total sense. Why oo hhe to me it makes total sense. Why oo hhe wehhl do we not learn from the neil ohheh do we not learn from the neil ohheh eoee do we not learn from the neil obrien case scotland . � vw� hi; 5h obrien case in scotland . We had hheeweehoh obrien case in scotland . We had discussion after obrien case in scotland . We had discussion after discussion about wrong that was on so about how wrong that was on so many levels when she was going to where was going many levels when she was going to be where was going many levels when she was going to be sent where was going many levels when she was going to be sent to here was going many levels when she was going to be sent to cornton was going many levels when she was going to be sent to cornton vale,oing many levels when she was going to be sent to cornton vale, you know, well , no, that to be sent to cornton vale, you knotchanged. Well , no, that to be sent to cornton vale, you knotchanged. Yes,3ll , no, that to be sent to cornton vale, you knotchanged. Yes, but no, that to be sent to cornton vale, you knotchanged. Yes, but the that to be sent to cornton vale, you knotchanged. Yes, but the law has changed. Yes, but the law has changed. Yes, but the law has changed. Yes, but the law has changed. Were still having the about this the conversation now about this guy , dominic risen, was guy, dominic risen, who was found guilty in bristol of raping a child. You know, where is the thought . No, you know, he ohohh is the thought . No, you know, he ohohh hope is the thought . No, you know, he ohohh hope o is the thought . No, you know, he didnt rape a child. Is the thought . No, you know, he didnt rape a child. He 3 no, you know, he didnt rape a child. He didnt rehe didnt rape a child. He didnt hope o didnt rape a child. He didnt hope o ehhheh didnt rape a child. He didnt rape a child. A didnt rape a child. He didnt rape a child. A young woman with a rape a child. A young woman with o ehhho. Rape a child. A young woman with o ehhho. Huh rape a child. A young woman with a child. But sorry, rape a child. A young woman with a child. But sorry, but he was he we a child. But sorry, but he was he h a child. But sorry, but he was he was in prison a child. But sorry, but he was he was in prison for child sex oheheee. He was in prison for child sex offences. But he was in prison for child sex offences. But its he was in prison for child sex offences. But its interesting, i. Offences. But its interesting, hhe eoe, offences. But its interesting, hhe eoe, hhe offences. But its interesting, the bbc, the woke bbc headlines screamed bristol the bbc, the woke bbc headlines screamed bristol trans woman iohheo screamed bristol trans woman iohheo hor screamed bristol trans woman iohheo forehe screamed bristol trans woman jailed for rape. No, a man was iohheo jailed for rape. No, a man was iohheo hor jailed for rape. No, a man was iohheo for hope. Jailed for rape. No, a man was jailed for rape. And thats what wowwe jailed for rape. And thats what wowwe ooh jailed for rape. And thats what wowwe ooh ho jailed for rape. And thats what youve got to stop jailed for rape. And thats what youve got to stop this nonsense. Its youve got to stop this nonsense. Itsjust youve got to stop this nonsense. Its just as you know, as nonsense. Its just as you know, oe chore nonsense. Its just as you know, oe chore ewe nonsense. Its just as you know, oe chore eowe , nonsense. Its just as you know, as clare says , its nonsense. Its just as you know, as clare says , its enabling as clare says, its enabling heoohe as clare says, its enabling heoohewew as clare says, its enabling people very briefly in people very, very briefly in herme people very, very briefly in hehhe oh people very, very briefly in terms of identity politics, sort of oeeeehohh terms of identity politics, sort of obsession with terms of identity politics, sort of obsession with identity oohhhhee. Of obsession with identity politics. Page of obsession with identity politics. 339; t politics. Page seven of the daily mail today , be fair to fat daily mail today, be fair to fat workers. Oh, you were determined to this. And you were to do this. And you were determined. And you were determined. hitg to do this. And you were determined. Theyve passed a to do this. And you were determined. Theyve passed a law in new york which outlaws discrimination. Now on the basis of a persons height or weight in employment, housing and pubuc in employment, housing and public accommodation. And i public accommodation. And i always think that whatever happensin always think that whatever happens in america happens in the uk. And guess there is the uk. And i guess there is their discrimination with people who are overweight and getting jobs. Is who are overweight and getting jobs. Is there then saying that jobs. Is there then saying that oeohhe jobs. Is there then saying that heoohe oe jobs. Is there then saying that people are always is there then saying that people are always saying there is people are always saying there he. People are always saying there he. He people are always saying there he. He h people are always saying there he. He hiwet people are always saying there is. C hitohitg people are always saying there is. Is it just everybody wants to be a victim for whatever it is that you think , im not happy is that you think, im not happy with this. I therefore im a victim. So you do have to treat me better to start down this road. You know, youre not ohhoweo road. You know, youre not ohhoweo ho you know, youre not allowed to discriminate against eohehoow allowed to discriminate against eohehow allowed to discriminate against someb or religion allowed to discriminate against someb or religion or whatever, colour or religion or whatever, whheh colour or religion or whatever, whichimportant colour or religion or whatever, which important things. Yes, which are important things. Yes, but which are important things. Yes, huhpowerh which are important things. Yes, butproblem with which are important things. Yes, but problem with it is , is but the problem with it is, is that but the problem with it is, is thatehe but the problem with it is, is thatehe wh but the problem with it is, is that end up where do you that you end up where do you where that you end up where do you whereeoe that you end up where do you wherestoplterms. That you end up where do you where stop terms of where do you stop in terms of discrimination . Where do you stop in terms of discrimination . Been discrimination . Ive been discriminated discrimination . Ive been oheeehheeheo discrimination . Ive been discginger, because im short , im ginger, because im short, heeowee im ginger, because im short, heeowee hm im ginger, because im short, because im tall, im ginger, because im short, because im tall, because thats where ewe because im tall, because thats where blue eyes. | where were going. Blue eyes. Heoowee where were going. Blue eyes. Because ive got a glaswegian accent. Who do we accent. Who knows . Where do we ehoe h accent. Who knows . Where do we end . If. America end . It looks as if in america he end . It looks as if in america hhehe end . It looks as if in america hhehe oh end . It looks as if in america itsis on that end . It looks as if in america its is on that british its this is on that british ahhwowe its this is on that british ahhwoweewh its this is on that British Airways cut legroom on some airways has cut legroom on some of airways has cut legroom on some ohhhohee. Airways has cut legroom on some ohhhohee. So airways has cut legroom on some ofplanes. So they airways has cut legroom on some ofplanes. So they are. Of their planes. So they are discriminating against tall people , surely. I mean, so come people, surely. I mean, so come on. And overweight people, heeowee on. And overweight people, heeowee h on. And overweight people, because if youre hit and overweight people, because if youre overweight hith and overweight people, because if youre overweight , because if youre overweight, wowhe eeh because if youre overweight, wowhe eeh hhho| because if youre overweight, youre get into the youre not going to get into the ohowhh youre not going to get into the amount handling. Amount of inches handling. Hohew amount of inches handling. Robertthough amount of inches handling. Robertthough , amount of inches handling. Robertthough , quickly, robert de niro, though, quickly, should should he should he have had should he have another child . Yes, have had another child . Yes, more or less. 80 . No, he should have , because the woman hes have, because the woman hes hes had the child with now its very hard to find her age anywhere. And i found a cutting anywhere. And i found a cutting from the states which says shes 63, which im amazed which actually made me think the story was bad news because if she is 63 and hes 79, that child, is it not his eldest child in his 60s or something . No, his oldest child is i think this is the biggest story is her having a child at 63 . Well, thats what its child at 63 . Well, thats what he heeowee child at 63 . Well, thats what its because if child at 63 . Well, thats what its because if you hi h hh3 . Well, thats what its because if you notice hi h hh37 well, thats what its because if you notice all he its because if you notice all hhe oohehe its because if you notice all the papers, she its because if you notice all the papers, she should be on hrt. Wou. The papers, she should be on hrt. Wehh. Ou the papers, she should be on hrt. Well, all the the papers, she should be on hrt. Well, all the papers the papers, she should be on hrt. Well, all the papers havent mentioned her age, which sent me looking and i found one looking for it. And i found one age. Can i just say this . This. He age. Can i just say this . This. Hhhehe age. Can i just say this . This. Hhhehe ho age. Can i just say this . This. Thisme to tellofl age. Can i just say this . This. Thisme to tellof my this allows me to tell one of my howowhhe this allows me to tell one of my favourite jokes. This allows me to tell one of my favourite jokes. No, this allows me to tell one of my favourite jokes. No, barry favourite jokes. Oh, no, barry chew. Favourite jokes. Oh, no, barry chew hee favourite jokes. Oh, no, barry. Cryer. Les dennis cryer. Go on. When les dennis hoo cryer. Go on. When les dennis hoolehhhot cryer. Go on. When les dennis hadlchild, when cryer. Go on. When les dennis had child, when he was i cant had a child, when he was i cant rememberles had a child, when he was i cant remember les dennis was. Remember how old les dennis was. Hhohohhw hhhhh probably about 40. I think it was or something. Was late 50s or something. I hhhhh soe was late 50s or something. I hhhhh soe oh was late 50s or something. I| think 50s or even think it was late 50s or even oehhhhe think it was late 50s or even oehhhhelhoh think it was late 50s or even gettingforand think it was late 50s or even getting for and barry getting on for 60. And barry cher getting on for 60. And barry cweh rang getting on for 60. And barry cweh rang hhh getting on for 60. And barry cryer rang him up and said, les, i cryer rang him up and said, les, yw cryer rang him up and said, les, h wow hhe i just want to tell you, its the i just want to tell you, its hhehhhe i just want to tell you, its the time to i just want to tell you, its the time to become i just want to tell you, its. Thetime to become a the perfect time to become a fohheh the perfect time to become a father because the perfect time to become a father because youre already up how hhohh father because youre already up how hhohhlhh four times in the night as it is. Four times in the night as it helhhe four times in the night as it helhhe h four times in the night as it is. Its i dont four times in the night as it is. Its i dont get it. C is. So its i dont get it. Go in is. So its i dont get it. Go he the is. So its i dont get it. Go he the hoop. Is. So its i dont get it. Go he the hoop. H is. So its i dont get it. Go in the loop. I do. Yes. Is. So its i dont get it. C t h hith yes. Carol, in the loop. I do. Yes. Carol, hhohh in the loop. I do. Yes. Carol, hhohh wow in the loop. I do. Yes. Carol, hhohh you very in the loop. I do. Yes. Carol, thank you very much t h hith yes. Carol, thank you very much indeed for hehhe thank you very much indeed for hehhe whhh thank you very much indeed for being whhh we thank you very much indeed for being with us this thank you very much indeed for being with us this morning. Hohhoehhe being with us this morning. Fantastic. Coming being with us this morning. I coming up, being with us this morning. Hi. Coming up, were fantastic. Coming up, were going fantastic. Coming up, were going hhwe fantastic. Coming up, were going hhwe ho hi. Coming up, were going live to orpington, where an going live to orpington, where oh oh going live to orpington, where oh oh whhz going live to orpington, where an anti ulez protest rally is wow an anti ulez protest rally is about ho an anti ulez protest rally is about to take an anti ulez protest rally is about to take place. hitii; about to take place. From there, wehh about to take place. From there, well be joined by london mayor hopeful. Thats howard cox. Stay hopeful. Thats howard cox. Stay with us. Hello there. Welcome to wow with us. Hello there. Welcome to wow hoheeh with us. Hello there. Welcome to wow hoheeh eh with us. Hello there. Welcome to your latest gb news is hello there. Welcome to your latest gb news weather foheeoeh your latest gb news weather foheeoeh. Your latest gb news weather hoheeoeh. Hm your latest gb news weather forecast. Im greg your latest gb news weather forecast. Im Greg Dewhurst and forecast. Im Greg Dewhurst and yes. Forecast. Im Greg Dewhurst and wee , sohwoow forecast. Im Greg Dewhurst and wee , sohwoow he forecast. Im Greg Dewhurst and yes , saturday is looking pretty yes, saturday is looking pretty n. Yes, saturday is looking pretty hhhe oeoee yes, saturday is looking pretty fine across much yes, saturday is looking pretty fine across much of the uk. Hhehe fine across much of the uk. Hhehe whhh fine across much of the uk. There will still fine across much of the uk. There will still be some cloud hohohho there will still be some cloud hohohhe oh there will still be some Cloud Holding on ho there will still be some Cloud Holding on to eastern parts , but holding on to eastern parts, but owehohh holding on to eastern parts, but owehohh hhehhw holding on to eastern parts, but overall pretty settled thanks to this overall pretty settled thanks to he eeo overall pretty settled thanks to he oh overall pretty settled thanks to this area of high overall pretty settled thanks to this area of high pressure. Does this area of hiin pressure. Does it this area of high pressure. Does hh how this area of high pressure. Does hh hoho oh this area of high pressure. Does it hold on. The this area of high pressure. Does it hold on the whole it hold on for the whole weekende it hold on for the whole weekend . Well this weather front will weekend . Well this weather front whhhhh weekend . Well this weather front willin across weekend . Well this weather front willin across parts weekend . Well this weather front will in across parts of will move in across parts of seohhoho will move in across parts of scotland and will move in across parts of scotland and Northern Ireland on sundav scotland and Northern Ireland on swhoow. Aho scotland and Northern Ireland on sunday. And then scotland and Northern Ireland on sunday. And then later on, push hwhheh sunday. And then later on, push hwhheh eowhh sunday. And then later on, push further south and sunday. And then later on, push further south and introduce eohoeh further south and introduce eohoeh oh further south and introduce colder air into further south and introduce colder air into monday. But for the colder air into monday. But for he he colder air into monday. But for he heeh oh colder air into monday. But for the rest of saturday, for many of the rest of saturday, for many of ohehhw the rest of saturday, for many of ohehhw oh the rest of saturday, for many of us, plenty of warm sunshine to of us, plenty of warm sunshine ho cohe of us, plenty of warm sunshine ho. Of us, plenty of warm sunshine ho. Hhe of us, plenty of warm sunshine to come. The low of us, plenty of warm sunshine to come. The low cloud just just to come. The low cloud just just hohohho to come. The low cloud just just hanging oh to come. The low cloud just just hanging on across to come. The low cloud just just hanging on across eastern parts of he hanging on across eastern parts of the midlands hanging on across eastern parts of the midlands towards the wash area. Of the midlands towards the wash area , some eastern of the midlands towards the wash area , some eastern coast of area, some eastern coast of hhohohot area, some eastern coast of england, perhaps scotland too. So temperatures england, perhaps scotland too. So temperatures here struggling to so temperatures here struggling ho eeh so temperatures here struggling ho eeh hhho so temperatures here struggling to get into double figures. A to get into double figures. A coho to get into double figures. A eoho oow. To get into double figures. A eoho oow. Huh to get into double figures. A cold day. But for to get into double figures. A cold day. But for the vast hoiohhhwt cold day. But for the vast hoiohhhwt high cold day. But for the vast majority, high teens, local low 20s majority, high teens, local low hee eo majority, high teens, local low 20s, so feeling majority, high teens, local low 20s, so feeling nice in that mid may 20s, so feeling nice in that mid how ewhehhhe 20s, so feeling nice in that mid may sunshine into 20s, so feeling nice in that mid may sunshine into the evening ahe may sunshine into the evening and owehhhehh may sunshine into the evening and overnight a may sunshine into the evening and overnight a fine end to the how. And overnight a fine end to the how. He and overnight a fine end to the how. Hhe how and overnight a fine end to the day. The low cloud and overnight a fine end to the day. The low cloud starts slowly creeping day. The low cloud starts slowly eheehhho hook day. The low cloud starts slowly creeping back inland across hohe creeping back inland across hohe oh creeping back inland across parts of england. And theres hhoh parts of england. And theres that weather parts of england. And theres that weather front moving in hohe that weather front moving in across parts of that weather front moving in across parts of northern wehohot across parts of Northern Ireland, northwest scotland into the ireland, northwest scotland into hhe eohhw ireland, northwest scotland into the early hours ireland, northwest scotland into the early hours under clear eoehhe the early hours under clear ehehhe. Wehh the early hours under clear spells. Well see temperatures dip spells. Well see temperatures ho ho spells. Well see temperatures dip hhho ehhohe spells. Well see temperatures dip into single figures. But a hoe dip into single figures. But a hoeh hee dip into single figures. But a frost free night dip into single figures. But a frost free night for all and a hhxeo frost free night for all and a hhxeo ehoh frost free night for all and a mixed start to frost free night for all and a mixed start to sunday morning. How mixed start to sunday morning. Howoehoee mixed start to sunday morning. Lowacross eastern mixed start to sunday morning. Low across eastern parts low cloud across eastern parts of hhehoho low cloud across eastern parts of england once low cloud across eastern parts of england once more , some mist of england once more, some mist ehe of england once more, some mist andelsewhere. Of england once more, some mist andelsewhere. The of england once more, some mist and elsewhere. The rain and murk. Elsewhere. The rain across scotland and murk. Elsewhere. The rain across scotland and northern wehoho across scotland and Northern Ireland through across scotland and Northern Ireland through the just ireland through the day just ehowhw ireland through the day just ehowhwo ireland through the day just slowlya little ireland through the day just slowly a little further slowly pushes a little further eowhh slowly pushes a little further eowhh ehe slowly pushes a little further south and east, slowly pushes a little further south and east, making its way ewehhwohhw south and east, making its way eventuallyparts south and east, making its way eventually parts of eventually into parts of northern eventually into parts of northern england, perhaps eooehoh northern england, perhaps eooehohoh northern england, perhaps coastal of wales and coastal fringes of wales and eowhhweeh coastal fringes of wales and southwest england later on in the southwest england later on in he oow. Southwest england later on in he oow. Huh southwest england later on in the day. But ahead of this, the how the day. But ahead of this, the how chowd the day. But ahead of this, the low cloud starts the day. But ahead of this, the low cloud starts to lift and weak low cloud starts to lift and weak ahe low cloud starts to lift and break and well low cloud starts to lift and break and well see sunny spells ehe break and well see sunny spells and temperatures break and well see sunny spells and temperatures to and temperatures again up to oowho and temperatures again up to oowho 22 and temperatures again up to around 22 degrees, behind around 22 degrees, colder behind this around 22 degrees, colder behind hhhe hohhoh around 22 degrees, colder behind this frontal system around 22 degrees, colder behind this frontal system across parts of seohhoho this frontal system across parts of scotland and this frontal system across parts of scotland and Northern Ireland into of scotland and Northern Ireland hhho hhe of scotland and Northern Ireland into the evening of scotland and Northern Ireland into the evening. Of scotland and Northern Ireland into the evening. This front into the evening. This front eohhhhwee into the evening. This front continues slowly push its way continues to slowly push its way eowhh continues to slowly push its way south eastwards. Continues to slowly push its way south eastwards. Some of the h south eastwards. Some of the oowo south eastwards. Some of the rain could be south eastwards. Some of the rain could beat south eastwards. Some of the rain could be at times, rain could be heavy at times, huh rain could be heavy at times, huhhe rain could be heavy at times, huhhe eohe rain could be heavy at times, but be some giant but there will be some giant hhhehwoee but there will be some giant interludesthere. But there will be some giant interludes there. So not interludes in there. So not owehhw interludes in there. So not overly persistent behind it, here overly persistent behind it, clearerand overly persistent behind it, clearerand a overly persistent behind it, clearer and a few showers clearer spells and a few showers hhoh clearer spells and a few showers hhoh hwhe clearer spells and a few showers that turns into clearer spells and a few showers that turns into showers for many of that turns into showers for many of iwohoow that turns into showers for many of us. Monday and that turns into showers for many of us. Monday and tuesday, of us. On monday and tuesday, huh of us. On monday and tuesday, but wednesday of us. On monday and tuesday, but wednesday ,. But brighter by wednesday, feeling but brighter by wednesday, feeling fresher but brighter by wednesday, feeling fresher for radio. Hello. Redhe l hello. Welcome hooho. Hello. Welcome back radio. Hello. Welcome back to saturday morning hello. Welcome back to saturday wohhhhe whhh. Hello. Welcome back to saturday morning withand hello. Welcome back to saturday morning withand phil, morning with esther and phil, hohe morning with esther and phil, hohelwow morning with esther and phil, hohelwow howe morning with esther and phil, lots you have been getting in lots of you have been getting in howeh. Lots of you have been getting in howeh. Vee lots of you have been getting in howeh. Hee we lots of you have been getting in touch. Yes, we started the show whhh touch. Yes, we started the show whhh whereo touch. Yes, we started the show with Andrea Jenkyns at the conservative with Andrea Jenkyns at the conservative Democratic Organisation conservative Democratic Organisation. Conservative Democratic Organisation. And david, bring organisation. And david, bring hook organisation. And david, bring hoeh hohhe organisation. And david, bring hoeh hohhe. Organisation. And david, bring back boris. Boris, as we call it, back boris. Boris, as we call a, howe back boris. Boris, as we call it, david emailed. Im watching a it, david emailed. Im watching o oeeeh it, david emailed. Im watching o oheoh ehow it, david emailed. Im watching a great show on it, david emailed. Im watching a great show on holiday in hohhoe a great show on holiday in eohhoet cwohwe a great show on holiday in paphos, cyprus, and ive just iohheo paphos, cyprus, and ive just iohheo hhe paphos, cyprus, and ive just joined the conservative democratic joined the conservative Democratic Organisation after hehhe Democratic Organisation after beingof Democratic Organisation after hehheohhhhe Democratic Organisation after being of this government, being sick of this government, hehwehhe being sick of this government, hehwehhe ho being sick of this government, refusing to honour manning festo oheheee refusing to honour manning festo oheheeeheoh refusing to honour manning festo pledges. Hear another pledges. Great to hear another of hw pledges. Great to hear another oh how wew pledges. Great to hear another of my very favourite mps in whereo of my very favourite mps in andreaeho of my very favourite mps in andrea and christine Andrea Jenkyns and christine here Andrea Jenkyns and christine hehe eoho. Andrea jenkyns and christine here said. I here said. Because we were talking about intergenerational, they it Economic Warfare they called it Economic Warfare and christine said its sad that younger generations are bitter towards the older generation over what weve accrued over a lifetime of hard work. Most of us our houses on the back us bought our houses on the back of sky high interest rates, done without any assistance from parents or grandparents who were in no financial position to assist. Yeah, and susan says on the same subject, every time i hear this discussion about the young generations not able to afford own homes, afford their own homes, where they older they live and the older generations it easy. Its generations had it easy. 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I could do a whole section on this eehehohhoh could do a whole section on this generationweve could do a whole section on this generation weve got generation issue. Weve got sweoh generation issue. Weve got sweoh going generation issue. Weve got susan going there. Certainly generation issue. Weve got susan needs there. Certainly generation issue. Weve got susan needs toere. Certainly generation issue. Weve got susan needs to come rtainly generation issue. Weve got susan needs to come on nly generation issue. Weve got susan needs to come on the show. I susan needs to come on the show. H know susan needs to come on the show. H hhow aa susan needs to come on the show. I know that much susan needs to come on the show. I know that much for susan needs to come on the show. I know that much for sure. Susan needs to come on the show. I know that much for sure. And i know that much for sure. And finally, and this is a e. This is for phil, from andy is for you, phil, from andy says, not really a big fan of the contest total the eurovision contest total waste of time and money. Keep peoples mind off everything that really matters. And whats going on. Well, that was from andy. Going on. Well, that was from andy. Andy, going on. Well, that was from andy. Andy, im going on. Well, that was from andy. Andy, im absolutely with andy. Andy, im absolutely with wow. Andy. Andy, im absolutely with wow. Whoh andy. Andy, im absolutely with wow. Whoh oh h andy, im absolutely with you. What an absolute waste of hhe you. What an absolute waste of he. You. What an absolute waste of he. Ea you. What an absolute waste of time. But first, you. What an absolute waste of time. But first, lets you. What an absolute waste of time. � ghitc you. What an absolute waste of time. � ghitc time. But first, lets get the latest News Headlines right now with rory. Thank you very much, with rory. Thank you very much, hehheh with rory. Thank you very much, hehheh. With rory. Thank you very much, hehheh. Hhe with rory. Thank you very much, esther. The latest . Hithg thank you very much, esther. The latest from 3hithg thank you very much, esther. The latest from the gb esther. The latest from the gb newsroom. A call esther. The latest from the gb newsroom. A call has been made newsroom. A call has been made for o newsroom. A call has been made for o eheehoh newsroom. A call has been made for a special summit to bring an eho for a special summit to bring an end ho for a special summit to bring an end ho hhe for a special summit to bring an end to the toxic for a special summit to bring an end to the toxic rail dispute. End to the toxic rail dispute. Hwh end to the toxic rail dispute. Hwh whhoh end to the toxic rail dispute. Rmt union boss end to the toxic rail dispute. Rmt union boss mick lynch has whhhheh rmt union boss mick lynch has whhhheh ho rmt union boss mick lynch has written to the rmt union boss mick lynch has written to the government eohhhhe written to the government eohhhhe hor written to the government calling for a written to the government calling for a meeting with an hhoeoehoehh calling for a meeting with an independent chair , if necessary, independent chair, if necessary, to independent chair, if necessary, ho eho independent chair, if necessary, ho ehe whoh independent chair, if necessary, to end what hes independent chair, if necessary, to end what hes described as ehooe to end what hes described as ehooe oh to end what hes described as ehooe on he to end what hes described as chaos on the railways. Well, it comes as passengers face yet ohohheh comes as passengers face yet ohohheh oow comes as passengers face yet another day of comes as passengers face yet another day of disruption with woheheh another day of disruption with workers again another day of disruption with workers again joining picket hhhee workers again joining picket hhhee. Workers again joining picket hhhee. Wore workers again joining picket lines. More strikes are set to lines. More strikes are set to be lines. More strikes are set to he heho lines. More strikes are set to he heho oh lines. More strikes are set to be held on the lines. More strikes are set to be held on the 31st of may. And the be held on the 31st of may. And he eho be held on the 31st of may. And he ehe oh be held on the 31st of may. And the 3rd of june. Be held on the 31st of may. And the 3rd of june. Thats the day of he the 3rd of june. Thats the day of he wh the 3rd of june. Thats the day of he we chh the 3rd of june. Thats the day of the fa cup final at wembley. So of the fa cup final at wembley. So her of the fa cup final at wembley. So keir starmer of the fa cup final at wembley. So keir starmer has told a conference more work needs to be done. Conference more work needs to be done. Huh conference more work needs to be done. Huh hohow conference more work needs to be done. But labour is conference more work needs to be done. But labour is on track oheoo done. But labour is on track ahead of done. But labour is on track ahead of the done. But labour is on track ahead of the next general eheehhoh ahead of the next general eheehhoh. Ahead of the next general election. He ahead of the next general election. He also said that he election. He also said that he expeehe election. He also said that he exoeehe new election. He also said that he expects next Years Campaign to get expects next Years Campaign to oeh ohhw expects next Years Campaign to oeh ohhw eho expects next Years Campaign to get dirty and nasty after his partys get dirty and nasty after his hohwe hoeoh get dirty and nasty after his partys local election success. Wehh partys local election success. Wehh hhe partys local election success. Well the leader partys local election success. Well the leader told the meme well the leader told the audience he well the leader told the audience he hopes to change hohowe audience he hopes to change labours leader, audience he hopes to change labours leader, labours entire ewhwe labours leader, labours entire ewhwe eho labours leader, labours entire culture and reconnect it with working culture and reconnect it with working oeohhe culture and reconnect it with working heoohe. Culture and reconnect it with working people. Home owners are working people. Home owners are hehhe working people. Home owners are hehho wee working people. Home owners are being warned theres more mohoooe being warned theres more mohoooe pain being warned theres more mortgage pain to come. The heeohwhhoh mortgage pain to come. The Resolution Foundation found that the Resolution Foundation found that hhe ohowhho Resolution Foundation found that the growing popularity of fixed hohee the growing popularity of fixed hohee oho the growing popularity of fixed rates and longer the growing popularity of fixed rates and longer term deals hhoh rates and longer term deals means that many borrowers are yet means that many borrowers are weh ho means that many borrowers are weh ho eee means that many borrowers are weh ho hhe means that many borrowers are yet to see the impact of rising hhheheeh yet to see the impact of rising interest rates. Yet to see the impact of rising interest rates. Its yet to see the impact of rising interest rates. Its after the how interest rates. Its after the book of interest rates. Its after the bank of england increased the hoee bank of england increased the hoee hohe bank of england increased the base rate for bank of england increased the base rate for the bank of england increased the base rate for the 12th Consecutive Base Rate for the 12th consecutive time from. 4. 25 to consecutive time from. 4. 25 to he. Consecutive time from. 4. 25 to he. Hhe consecutive time from. 4. 25 to he. Hhe whe consecutive time from. 4. 25 to 4. 5. The uks eurovision entry, mav 4. 5. The uks eurovision entry, how wwehheh 4. 5. The uks eurovision entry, may mueller says 4. 5. The uks eurovision entry, may mueller says she is ready to get may mueller says she is ready to oeh hhe may mueller says she is ready to oeh hhe ehow may mueller says she is ready to oeh hhe ehow oh may mueller says she is ready to get the show on the road ahead of hohhohhe get the show on the road ahead of tonights final get the show on the road ahead of tonights final in liverpool. A ohohoh of tonights final in liverpool. A global audience of 160 million a global audience of160 million he a global audience of160 Million Viewers is expected a global audience of 160 Million Viewers is expected to watch 26 oee viewers is expected to watch 26 oehe hehohh viewers is expected to watch 26 acts perform at viewers is expected to watch 26 acts perform at the m s bank aheho acts perform at the m s bank aeho hhe acts perform at the m s bank aeho hhe wh acts perform at the M S Bank Arena. The uk agreed to host the eohheeh arena. The uk agreed to host the eohheeh oh arena. The uk agreed to host the contest on behalf arena. The uk agreed to host the contest on behalf of last years winner , ukraine contest on behalf of last years winner , ukraine tv online dup winner, ukraine tv online dup phoe winner, ukraine tv online dup hhwe hooho winner, ukraine tv online dup the roth oho winner, ukraine tv online dup plus radio and on winner, ukraine tv online dup plus radio and on tunein. This is plus radio and on tunein. This he eh plus radio and on tunein. This he he wewe plus radio and on tunein. This is gb news nato. Plus radio and on tunein. This is gb news nato. Back to esther and is gb news nato. Back to esther oho hhhhhh is gb news nato. Back to esther oho hhhhhh. Is gb news nato. Back to esther oho hhhhhh. Is gb news nato. Back to esther and philip. Thanks, is gb news nato. Back to esther and philip. 3 is gb news nato. Back to esther and philip. 3 \hithhhi and philip. Thanks, rory. Now our viewers and listeners might remember him as the founder of fair fuel uk, but since this week, howard cox has also become the candidate for the reform party for next years london mayoral election. Howards top hhhohhhw mayoral election. Howards top ohhohhhw he mayoral election. Howards top ohhohhhw he ho mayoral election. Howards top priority is to scrap mayoral election. Howards top priority is to scrap ulez i hith howards top priority is to scrap ulez. So priority is to scrap ulez. So here priority is to scrap ulez. So hehe 90 priority is to scrap ulez. So we go hhe priority is to scrap ulez. So lets go live to priority is to scrap ulez. So lets go live to orpington , lets go live to orpington, where lets go live to orpington, where he lets go live to orpington, where he is lets go live to orpington, where he is attending an anti whhz where he is attending an anti whhz woheeh where he is attending an anti ulez protest rally. So well say ulez protest rally. So well say you ulez protest rally. So well say wow oe ulez protest rally. So well say wow hhe ulez protest rally. So well say you are the voice ulez protest rally. So well say you are the voice of the mohohheh you are the voice of the motorist trying to scrap these whoo motorist trying to scrap these who how motorist trying to scrap these ultra low emission zones. Tell us ultra low emission zones. Tell we whohe ultra low emission zones. Tell us whats happening with you whohe us whats happening with you now. Whats the us whats happening with you now. Whats the protest about . Now. Whats the protest about . Wou. Now. Whats the protest about . Wehh. Hone. Now. Whats the protest about . Well, hello, esther now. Whats the protest about . Well, hello, esther and now. Whats the protest about . Well, hello, esther and phil. Thank you for having me on your show. Well, this is the start. It show. Well, this is the start. H ehohe show. Well, this is the start. It starts about well, this is the start. It starts about 12 00. Theres going it starts about 12 00. Theres going ho it starts about 12 00. Theres going ho he it starts about 12 00. Theres going ho he o it starts about 12 00. Theres going to be a big it starts about 12 00. Theres going to be a big anti ulez hhoheeh going to be a big anti ulez hhoheehlhoh going to be a big anti ulez protest far flung orpington protest in far flung orpington oneho protest in far flung orpington oneho hhe protest in far flung orpington one to the m20 protest in far flung orpington one to the m20 a5 one of one close to the m20 a5 one of he one close to the m20 a5 one of he he one close to the m20 a5 one of the last areas one close to the m20 a5 one of the last areas before ulez ooeehh the last areas before ulez doesnt actually kick in, but he doesnt actually kick in, but he he doesnt actually kick in, but this is where doesnt actually kick in, but this is where ulez will be hhehhho this is where ulez will be hhehhho hh this is where ulez will be kicking in in this is where ulez will be kicking in in august. h kicking in in august. And weve got kicking in in august. And weve ooh o kicking in in august. And weve got o huge kicking in in august. And weve got a huge amount of people. I think theres going be a lot of woehohe think theres going be a lot of tractors, lorries, think theres going be a lot of tractors, lorries, motorbikes all tractors, lorries, motorbikes ohh eohhho tractors, lorries, motorbikes all coming here. All coming round here. The orpington all coming round here. The orpington woo all coming round here. The orpington war memorial. So if youre yet, come along youre not here yet, come along down this down here and show this dishonest mayorjust down here and show this dishonest mayor just why weve got to get rid of ulez. Howard, got to get rid of ulez. Howard, just tell us about your decision to stand for election to the to the for the london Mayors Office , for the reform party. I office, for the reform party. I mean , why have you decided to office, for the reform party. I mean , why have you decided to do mean, why have you decided to do how mean, why have you decided to do how h mean, why have you decided to do how h heoh mean, why have you decided to do how h h mean, why have you decided to do that . I mean, i understand it ghee that . I mean, i understand it ohwee wow that . I mean, i understand it ohwee wow o that . I mean, i understand it ohwee wow o h that . I mean, i understand it gives you a it gives you a ohohohh gives you a it gives you a ohohohh oe gives you a it gives you a platform as the gives you a it gives you a platform as the reform party oonhhhohe platform as the reform party eohohoohe. H platform as the reform Party Candidate. Ijust platform as the reform Party Candidate. I just wondered if you candidate. I just wondered if wow ohohh candidate. I just wondered if you didnt win candidate. I just wondered if you didnt win the election , you didnt win the election, wowo you didnt win the election, wowho hhoh you didnt win the election, would that then you didnt win the election, would that then undermine the eohhohoh would that then undermine the campaign against ulez . Because heohhe campaign against ulez . Because heoohe wowo campaign against ulez . Because heoohe wowho eowt campaign against ulez . Because people would say, well, you ehooo people would say, well, you ehooo oh people would say, well, you stood on that people would say, well, you stood on that platform and you ohohh stood on that platform and you ohohh eeo stood on that platform and you ohohh eeoso stood on that platform and you didnt get so obviously didnt get elected. So obviously heohhe didnt get elected. So obviously heoohe oohh didnt get elected. So obviously people dont agree you when people dont agree with you when the people dont agree with you when hhe hhohh people dont agree with you when the might actually people dont agree with you when the might actually be. The when they might actually be. On, the when they might actually be. Hhhh oe the when they might actually be. Hhhh oe wow the when they might actually be. Phil, as you know, the when they might actually be. Phil, as you know, you the when they might actually be. Phil, as you know, you said the when they might actually be. Phil, as you know, you said all the right things. Theyre oheohwhehw the right things. Theyre absolutely right the right things. Theyre absolutely right. g gs theyre absolutely right. The right things. Theyre absolutely right. But ive been absolutely right. But ive been 13 Years Campaigning alongside the conservative government, and im grateful for their freezing fuel but theyre still not fuel duty. But theyre still not oehhhho fuel duty. But theyre still not oehhhho ho fuel duty. But theyre still not oehhhho he of fuel duty. But theyre still not getting rid of ulez ccg but theyre still not getting rid of ulez completely. Hhewhe getting rid of ulez completely. Hhewheheep getting rid of ulez completely. Theyrekeep ulez getting rid of ulez completely. J theyrekeep ulez right theyre going to keep ulez right up to the north and south. Circular getting circular its getting a bit noisy here. And also theyre not going noisy here. And also theyre not oohho ho noisy here. And also theyre not going ho scrap noisy here. And also theyre not going to scrap the sg hith and also theyre not going to scrap the 2030 ban and hhewhe going to scrap the 2030 ban and hhewhe hoo going to scrap the 2030 ban and hhewhe hoh going going to scrap the 2030 ban and theyre not going to get rid of net zero. Theyre theyre not going to get rid of net zero. hitg hii ghith g net zero. Theyre not going to cut fuel at any cut fuel duty at all any further. And i, i was approached by richard tice of the of the reform party, he offered all reform party, and he offered all of things that my 1. 7 of the things that my 1. 7 million supporters want. Ive million supporters want. Ive still got a lot of friends. Hith ive still got a lot of friends in he still got a lot of friends in he hohhee still got a lot of friends in the tories and still got a lot of friends in the tories and id like to hhhhh the tories and id like to think, count the tories and id like to think, count you two as that as wehh think, count you two as that as wehhehhohhhw think, count you two as that as well, slightly right well, especially slightly right of well, especially slightly right ohhhwe well, especially slightly right oftrue traditional. Of centre. True traditional tories who would with tories who would agree with everything. What were trying to do im reform its do. Im with reform uk. Its going an uphill battle and going to be an uphill battle and i rally all of the anti i want to rally all of the anti khan groups to get behind me so that we can actually knock this dishonest out soon as dishonest mayor out as soon as possible. Well, i thought it was possible. Well, i thought it was a possible. Well, i thought it was owe e eohhhol a thought police were coming other a thought police were coming oheh wow. A thought police were coming after you. Then a thought police were coming after you. Then for a minute when after you. Then for a minute whehhhoee after you. Then for a minute when those sirens, when i heard those sirens, howoho when i heard those sirens, howohoeo when i heard those sirens,i howardsolmean when i heard those sirens, howardsolmean , its howard, i mean, so i mean, its a howard, i mean, so i mean, its o ehhohhhw howard, i mean, so i mean, its a slightly different howard, i mean, so i mean, its a slightly different system of eheehhoh a slightly different system of election for a slightly different system of election for the a slightly different system of election for the london mayoral eohheeh election for the london mayoral eohheeh hh election for the london mayoral eohheeh hh hh election for the london mayoral contest in in the election for the london mayoral contest in in the sense that you howe contest in in the sense that you howe ha, contest in in the sense that you have first, second, contest in in the sense that you have first, second, third, howhh whw| have first, second, third, fourth why when you fourth choices. So why when you ehowh fourth choices. So why when you stand, obviously fourth choices. So why when you stand, obviously you want ewehwhoow stand, obviously you want everybody ho stand, obviously you want everybody to vote for you as her everybody to vote for you as hhehh hhheh everybody to vote for you as their first choice. Everybody to vote for you as their first choice. I everybody to vote for you as theirfirst choice. I absolutely their first choice. I absolutely get their first choice. I absolutely oeh hhoh their first choice. I absolutely oeh hhoh. Their first choice. I absolutely oeh hhoh. Whhh their first choice. I absolutely get that. Willbe get that. Will you be encouraging to get that. Will you be encouragingto vote encouraging people to vote hoehheohhw encouraging people to vote tactically for encouraging people to vote tactically for their second and hid tactically for their second and third choices . Tactically for their second and third choices . Is tactically for their second and third choices . Is the is the hhoh third choices . Is the is the main ambition third choices . Is the is the main ambition to get rid of sooho main ambition to get rid of sooho hhoh main ambition to get rid of sadiq khan as main ambition to get rid of sadiq khan as mayor of london . On, sadiq khan as mayor of london . Hhhh h sadiq khan as mayor of london . Hhhh h howe sadiq khan as mayor of london . Hhhh h hove ho sadiq khan as mayor of london . Phil, i have to correct sadiq khan as mayor of london . Phil, i have to correct you. Phil, i have to correct you. Its this time. Its the first hhe its this time. Its the first hhhe ever its this time. Its the First Time Ever its its this time. Its the First Time Ever its going c c its the First Time Ever its going to be first hoeh time ever its going to be first hoeh hhe time ever its going to be first hoeh hhe hoeh. Time ever its going to be first past the post. 0th; theyre not past the post. Okay. Theyre not oohho past the post. Okay. Theyre not oohho hhe past the post. 0th; theyre not doing the proportional approach. |woe. Doing the proportional approach. |woe. Aho doing the proportional approach. Iwas. And thats doing the proportional approach. Iwas. And thats one doing the proportional approach. I was. And thats one reason that helped me do it. And im going to be working with a lot of people. Im already of the tory people. Im already getting load of people getting a load of tory people calling me and mps saying go for it, to do this. The it, we need to do this. The important thing, phil nesta is ulez is a crippling, crippling tax on low income families , sole tax on low income families, sole traders, etcetera, and i produced a report about a about a month ago now the cbi actually produced a report to show that ulez has cost and will cost even more £1 billion a year to the londons economy. And these are the sorts of things that this cash grabbing mayor doesnt seem to get. And even his own transport for london have shown that extending ulez to the that extending the ulez to the m25 will not make a shedload of difference at all. To the air we breathe. Its purely a cash grab. Howard cox, thank you very much. Howard cox, thank you very much indeed. Howard cox, thank you very much indeed. Hes definitely ehohhho much indeed. Hes definitely ehohhho hhe much indeed. Hes definitely starting the fight back for the mohohheh. Starting the fight back for the motorist. Hes starting the fight back for the motorist. Hes been talking ohowh motorist. Hes been talking ohowh hhhe motorist. Hes been talking about this for motorist. Hes been talking about this for a motorist. Hes been talking about this for a long time, but i about this for a long time, but h hhe about this for a long time, but h hhe hoo about this for a long time, but i its had tractioni i dont think its had traction whhhh i dont think its had traction whhhh how i dont think its had traction until now. Then i dont think its had traction until now. Then people are eohheho until now. Then people are realising, oh, until now. Then people are realising, oh, its going to eoeh realising, oh, its going to eoemoch realising, oh, its going to. Costmuch. Doesnt cost me too much. It doesnt howe cost me too much. It doesnt hove eowhho. Have the impact. Theyre saying, wehh have the impact. Theyre saying, wehh howe have the impact. Theyre saying, wehh howe ho have the impact. Theyre saying, well have to have have the impact. Theyre saying, well have to have him back on to well have to have him back on ho hhe well have to have him back on to findabout well have to have him back on to findabout the well have to have him back on to find about the of to find out about the rest of hhe to find out about the rest of his manifesto. To find out about the rest of his manifesto. But to come his manifesto. But still to come on sohwoow his manifesto. But still to come on saturday morning, should the sahe on saturday morning, should the saheleehohheo on saturday morning, should the sats. Scrapped . On saturday morning, should the sats scrapped . C. On saturday morning, should the sats scrapped . Cc sats be scrapped . That will be oheo sats be scrapped . That will be also taking a look at all the weekend sport and showbiz as usual. So stay and place your vote. Wouldnt it be and place your vote. Wouldnt it he huh and place your vote. Wouldnt it he hwh h and place your vote. Wouldnt it he hwh h we and place your vote. Wouldnt it be fun if we beat and place your vote. Wouldnt it be fun if we beat the establishment. F be fun if we beat the establishment. Welcome back be fun if we beat the establishment. Welcome back to establishment. Welcome back to saturday morning with esther and phil. Its 1141 now on a Headteachers Union has expressed concerns over this weeks sat exams for ten and 11 year olds amid claims that an english paper left some pupils in tears and damaged their Mental Health and damaged their Mental Health and wellbeing. But what the and wellbeing. But what the department for education website says sats are meant to Measure School performance and to make sure individual pupils have the support that they need as they move into secondary school. Move into secondary school. Well, were now joined by chris weeowehh well, were now joined by chris weeowehh. Well, were now joined by Chris Mcgovern , chairman the mcgovern, chairman of the cohoohoh mcgovern, chairman of the Campaign Education , mcgovern, chairman of the campaigneducation , and campaign for real education, and chhhehhhe campaign for real education, and christineprincipal campaign for real education, and christine principal of christine cunniffe, principal of hwee. Christine cunniffe, principal of hwee. Aeh christine cunniffe, principal of elves. Ask dot. Christine cunniffe, principal of elves. Ask dot. So if i start whhh elves. Ask dot. So if i start whhh wow elves. Ask dot. So if i start whhh wow. Elves. Ask dot. So if i start with you , chris elves. Ask dot. So if i start with you , Chris Mcgovern, ths with you, Chris Mcgovern, ths heohhwe with you, Chris Mcgovern, ths really . Hoeh with you, Chris Mcgovern, ths really . Just because some pupils howho really . Just because some pupils howho oe really . Just because some pupils found exams tough, they found it ohhhewh found exams tough, they found it ohhhewh. Found exams tough, they found it ohhhewh. He found exams tough, they found it difficult. Is that found exams tough, they found it difficult. Is that really an difficult. Is that really an excuse to get difficult. Is that really an excuse to get rid of sats or ehowhohhe excuse to get rid of sats or shouldnt . Isnt excuse to get rid of sats or shouldnt . Isnt that part of ohowhho shouldnt . Isnt that part of growing wh shouldnt . Isnt that part of growing up coping with disappointment and things that are disappointment and things that o hh disappointment and things that are a bit tough disappointment and things that are a bit tough . Disappointment and things that are a bit tough . Look children are a bit tough . Look children do need are a bit tough . Look children do need ho are a bit tough . Look children do need to be are a bit tough . Look children do need to be tested. C c do need to be tested. Its a bit hhe do need to be tested. Its a bit like going to the dentist. You know, you need to know c ghith g you know, you need to know what the ehohe know, you need to know what the ehohe oh know, you need to know what the ehohe of wow know, you need to know what the state of your teeth know, you need to know what the state of your teeth are. H hithc. State of your teeth are. You need state of your teeth are. You heedhhe state of your teeth are. You need the state state of your teeth are. You need the state your need to know the state of your learning. Do tests. Learning. So we do need tests. This might have been a rogue test. Possible, over test. Its possible, but over the you can the last three decades, you can say that examinations in many ways have shown improvements. Say that examinations in many ways have slenientnprovements. Say that examinations in many ways have slenient markingznts. Weve seen lenient marking anyway. If not, the exams may have got marginally tougher, but we shouldnt be worried about these being slightly these tests being slightly tough. Obviously, want tough. Obviously, i dont want children be upset, we children to be too upset, but we shouldnt worried because shouldnt be too worried because when theyre marks the marks are adjusted, theyre moderate. So adjusted, theyre moderate. So were see some pretty were going to see some pretty good anyway. But what we good results anyway. But what we should addressing good results anyway. But what we sho fact addressing good results anyway. But what we sho fact that addressing good results anyway. But what we sho fact that by addressing good results anyway. But what we sho fact that by the dressing good results anyway. But what we sho fact that by the time ng good results anyway. But what we sho fact that by the time these the fact that by the time these children get to the age of 15, there are about three years behind the level of attainment in children in the best Education Systems around the world. So we cant really make them any easier. It wouldnt change the driving test would be to make it easier. So im sorry children were upset, but maybe because their schools were locked down and maybe because a lot pressure from teachers lot of pressure from teachers thats the burden on thats added to the burden on children. Tests. And children. We need the tests. And if this was a rogue exam, it one would apologise for that, of course. But we do need the tests and i suspect the children wont be affected in terms the be affected in terms of the marks because the marks will be adjusted. Worry adjusted. So nothing to worry about if believe about. If you believe the teaching profession , and im one teaching profession, and im one that im part that profession that im part of that profession. Weve had the biggest improvement in educational standards history in the last standards in history in the last 30 years. Look at International Levels and comparisons were falling behind. Who do you falling badly behind. Who do you believe , christine . Can i can believe, christine . Can i can i bnng believe, christine . Can i can i bring wow believe, christine . Can i can i bring wow hh believe, christine . Can i can i bring you in here . Believe, christine . Can i can i bring you in here . I h7 can i can i bring you in here . I mean, i hhhhh bring you in here . I mean, i hhhhh hoeh bring you in here . I mean, i think most people would say how think most people would say how wow think most people would say that, you know, think most people would say that, you know, need as that, you know, you need to, as as that, you know, you need to, as oe chhhe that, you know, you need to, as oe chhhe eohh that, you know, you need to, as as chris said, you that, you know, you need to, as as chris said, you need to have heehe as chris said, you need to have tests sensible as chris said, you need to have tests sensible toi tests and it seems sensible to howe tests and it seems sensible to howe o tests and it seems sensible to have a National Tests and it seems sensible to have a National Test before heohhe have a National Test before heoohelho have a National Test before people to secondary school so people go to secondary school so hhoh eehooh that every secondary school hhowe that every secondary school knowswhat knows exactly what theyre oeohhho knows exactly what theyre oeohhho hhewl knows exactly what theyre dealing they get knows exactly what theyre. Dealing they get a dealing with when they get a pupil dealing with when they get a tooth hh dealing with when they get a tooth hh hhehe. Dealing with when they get a pupil in there. Is dealing with when they get a pupil in there. Is this more of a pupil in there. Is this more of o oweehhoh pupil in there. Is this more of a question that pupil in there. Is this more of a question that teachers dont hhhee a question that teachers dont hhhee heoowe a question that teachers dont like . League tables that flow hom like . League tables that flow from sahe like . League tables that flow from sats rather like . League tables that flow from sats rather than actually the from sats rather than actually he sahe from sats rather than actually the sats themselves . The sats themselves . I think ooh the sats themselves . I think ooh ho the sats themselves . I think weve got to remember this is about the children. This isnt about the children. This isnt about the children. This isnt about the teachers or the establishment itself. Its about the children. And, you and the children. And, you know, and the children. And, you know, and the for them. The best education for them. And, know, totally agree and, you know, i totally agree with there with chris, but if there are rogue give a rogue exam rogue exams to give a rogue exam to a child whos 10 or 11, that is damaging and theres no excuse for that. Should excuse for that. It should be checked more properly. And we know theres been know that you know, theres been exam gcses and exam errors with gcses and a levels. Why i dont a levels. The reason why i dont agree is because i do agree with sats is because i do believe that its too narrow. Believe that its too narrow. Its only english and maths science was abolished in 2010 and have a right to a and children have a right to a broad and balanced curriculum. Broad and balanced curriculum. And at the many schools and at the moment many schools who are taking the sats are teaching those exams. Teaching to those exams. Christine i do a lot of work with young pupils and i teach them about resilience, things in life isnt always going to go as planned, but really if they cry, its about talking through what was tough , what didnt work, not was tough, what didnt work, not to cancel it on their behalf. Surely. No. To cancel it on their behalf. Surely. No. Mean im not talking about cancelling exams. Im saying lets have exams that are fit for purpose. You know. What about the children whove got strong these strong Oral Communication . These exams are only written. What about those who have practical skills . About the children skills . What about the children with difficulties . With learning difficulties . Wheres the broad and balanced curriculum . Learn more curriculum . You learn much more than and maths. Than just english and maths. Theres point having good theres no point having good grammar have grammar if you dont have the creativity about creativity to write about something. So the tests will be longer. Then therell be these eheehe longer. Then therell be these eheehelewew g then therell be these checks every discipline and checks in every discipline and ewew checks in every discipline and every wow checks in every discipline and every wow hhoh checks in every discipline and every way that you learn. Thats whoh every way that you learn. Thats whoh woe every way that you learn. Thats what youre saying. Every way that you learn. Thats what youre saying. Now you oehwohhw what youre saying. Now you actually tests what youre saying. Now you actually tests . L what youre saying. Now you. Actually tests . Acas actually have more tests . Acas no, actually have more tests . Acas wo. Hh actually have more tests . Acas ho. Ho hoo actually have more tests . Acas no, im not saying actually have more tests . Acas no, im not saying that. Im oowohhw no, im not saying that. Im oehwohhw saying no, im not saying that. Im actually saying its no, im not saying that. Im actually saying its like gcse and a levels. Why are we still asking children to sit in a victorian style hall and write with pen and paper and some use laptops . Theres got to be a better way of doing it, something that prepares our children the children for, you know, the next. Fourth next. Were in the fourth industrial here with Industrial Revolution here with technology. The technology. What about the skills . Skills for the future . Entrepreneurship, creative thinking , the four cs . Thats thinking, the four cs . Thats what should be looking and what we should be looking at and testing periods of testing over long periods of time way that we get the time in a way that we get the best out of children, not just pigeonholing a box and pigeonholing them into a box and saying, perform pigeonholing them into a box and sayin now. Perform pigeonholing them into a box and sayin now. Chris perform pigeonholing them into a box and sayin now. Chris mcgovernhrm pigeonholing them into a box and sayin now. Chris mcgovern i� n right now. Chris mcgovern i guess one of the reasons why the focus was on maths and english was because many were was because so many people were leaving school who couldnt read properly, write properly, couldnt write properly, couldnt write properly couldnt the properly and couldnt do the basics maths and english. Is basics in maths and english. Is that has that strategy that i mean, has that strategy wowed that i mean, has that strategy worked or that i mean, has that strategy worked or should that i mean, has that strategy worked or should we be broadening worked or should we be broadening out these tests . Yes, broadening out these tests . Yes, its broadening out these tests . Yes, he ehhhh broadening out these tests . Yes, he ehhhh o broadening out these tests . Yes, its still a problem. H hithc. Its still a problem. You know, the its still a problem. You know, he ooo its still a problem. You know, the odd thing is , is the the odd thing is, is the children who benefit most from these tests in english and maths are those who fail them because then we can identify them. The great tragedy is children great tragedy is that children before they were tested , they before they were tested, they would go through Primary School and then they would go into secondary school and they hadnt been identified. Their problems hadnt been identified. Their problems hadnt so by hadnt been identified. So by having these tests at 11 and i know they are stressful, i sympathise my colleagues on sympathise with my colleagues on that, by having their tests that, but by having their tests at least, we can spot at 11 at least, we can spot the children are having children who are having difficulties of we difficulties. Of course we also have that limited have tests that are limited tests now seven. The tests tests now at seven. The tests are always problem. Spent are always a problem. I spent part career in the private part of my career in the private sector. Theyre having sector. Theyre theyre having tests week, tests every day, every week, every all the time. So every month. All the time. So theres great pressure. The theres no great pressure. The problem, our state problem, perhaps in our state schools we dont have schools is that we dont have enough we one every enough tests. We have one every four its high four years. And its high pressure. Should have pressure. Maybe we should have them every day or every every week. Then thered no more week. Then thered be no more part learning. You know, its part of learning. You know, its common , really. And i common sense, really. And i dont be dividing, bring dont want to be dividing, bring it do a fantastic it to an end to do a fantastic job. Theyre under pressure, too. Whee. Job. Theyre under pressure, too. Chhewewe job. Theyre under pressure, too. Chris, weve got job. Theyre under pressure, too. Chris, weve got to job. Theyre under pressure, too. Chris, weve got to match job. Theyre under pressure, too. Rest. Iris, weve got to match job. Theyre under pressure, too. Rest. Chris,eve got to match job. Theyre under pressure, too. Rest. Chris, ive got to match the rest. Chris, ive got to weve got to weve got to end there, christine, weve to weve got to weve got to end therhthere. Stine, weve to weve got to weve got to end therhthere. Well, weve to weve got to weve got to end therhthere. Well, weve you to weve got to weve got to end therhthere. Well, weve you both. End there. Well, thank you both. Thank you both very indeed thank you both very much indeed for engaging in that debate. We appreciate it. But chris had a point need to take point there. You need to take hhe point there. You need to take hhe heoh point there. You need to take hhe heoh ooh point there. You need to take the fear out of point there. You need to take the fear out of test, ii; you need to take the fear out of test, say here you the fear out of test, say here wow 90 the fear out of test, say here wow go. He the fear out of test, say here wow go. Hhhe he the fear out of test, say here you go. This is just ongoing. The fear out of test, say here you go. This is just ongoing. It you go. This is just ongoing. It ooeehh you go. This is just ongoing. It doesnt matter you go. This is just ongoing. It doesnt matter if you go. This is just ongoing. It doesnt matter if you dont if you doesnt matter if you dont if wow keep you dont pass it, keep going whhh you dont pass it, keep going whhh hhe you dont pass it, keep going with the test. You dont pass it, keep going with the test. \hhif. H� hhi you dont pass it, keep going with the test. \hihhhi you dont pass it, keep going with the test. \hhif. H� hhi g with the test. Now, as we might have noticed, liverpool is geanng have noticed, liverpool is gearing a party they gearing up for a party they wont host the wont forget as they host the eurovision contest tonight. Eurovision song contest tonight. Well, joining us is jay aston, former well, joining us is jay aston, former winner well, joining us is jay aston, former winner with bucks fizz. Shee former winner with bucks fizz. Shee hhehe former winner with bucks fizz. Shes there in former winner with bucks fizz. Shes there in liverpool. I want to shes there in liverpool. I want ho oeh shes there in liverpool. I want ho oeh her. Shes there in liverpool. I want to ask her, whats shes there in liverpool. I want to ask her, whats it like to be a to ask her, whats it like to be o hwowhehoh to ask her, whats it like to be a eurovision song to ask her, whats it like to be a Eurovision Song Contest winner. Hhe a Eurovision Song Contest winner. Hhe oehwohhw a Eurovision Song Contest winner. Its actually amazing. Hitii; a Eurovision Song Contest winner. Its actually amazing. Hi; ii;. Its actually amazing. Here we are. Its actually amazing. Here we hehhg. Its actually amazing. Here we are being treated literally like royalty. And weve had the royalty. And weve had the craziest schedule since literally 1981. Its fantastic. Look its just crowds everywhere here. And liverpool is literally rolled out the red carpet for everyone. Anne and jay. It must everyone. Anne and jay. It must who everyone. Anne and jay. It must who hook everyone. Anne and jay. It must bring hoeh o everyone. Anne and jay. It must bring back a lot everyone. Anne and jay. It must bring back a lot of 3 anne and jay. It must bring back a lot of memories hom bring back a lot of memories from when bring back a lot of memories from when you bring back a lot of memories from when you won back in 1981. Who from when you won back in 1981. Who who from when you won back in 1981. What what will from when you won back in 1981. What what will the from when you won back in 1981. What what will the what will the eohheehohhe what what will the what will the contestants be what what will the what will the contestants be feeling right now as contestants be feeling right now oe hhew contestants be feeling right now as they particularly the ones hhe as they particularly the ones like sweden as they particularly the ones like sweden and as they particularly the ones like sweden and finland , who are like sweden and finland, who are exheeheo like sweden and finland, who are exheeheo ho like sweden and finland, who are expected to sort like sweden and finland, who are expected to sort of like sweden and finland, who are expected to sort of be there or thereabouts . Expected to sort of be there or thereabouts . How expected to sort of be there or thereabouts . How must they be feeling thereabouts . How must they be feeling oh thereabouts . How must they be feeling oh hhe thereabouts . How must they be feeling at the moment. Thereabouts . How must they be feeling at the moment. � hfohhhitcc feeling at the moment. Well, heowwe feeling at the moment. Well, nervous theyll feeling at the moment. Well, nervous theyll be feeling at the moment. Well, nervous theyll be trying to psych themselves up, no doubt. Psych themselves up, no doubt. But at the end of the day, i think the message for me is just go out and enjoy it. Its three minutes long. Your song can change your life. And just just enjoy it and give it. Im sure theyll give it everything theyve got. And i guess youre always just wondering if something you something might go wrong, you know, with know, like something with the sound heel sound might happen. Or your heel might break or something. Even might break or something. Even your skirt ripped off. Just g g even your skirt ripped off. Just try one your skirt ripped off. Just try one home your skirt ripped off. Just try and focus on your skirt ripped off. Just try and focus on on your skirt ripped off. Just try and focus on on enjoying it, of course. I mean , and focus on on enjoying it, of course. I mean , that and focus on on enjoying it, of course. T course. I mean, that could always happen, but maybe thats part of the act. But you said, you part of the act. But you said, wow wow part of the act. But you said, wow hhow. Part of the act. But you said, wow hhow. Wow part of the act. But you said, you know , your life ehhi. C but you said, you know , your life could change you know, your life could change one you know, your life could change one hhoh you know, your life could change one hhoh he you know, your life could change and that is what you know, your life could change and that is what will happen to eohehoow and that is what will happen to somebody tonight, isnt it . Her somebody tonight, isnt it . Hhehh hhe somebody tonight, isnt it . Their life will somebody tonight, isnt it . Their life will change. How did hhoh their life will change. How did hhoh hoopeh their life will change. How did that happen for their life will change. How did that happen for you . That happen for you . Totally. I mean, we were completely unknown. We were one of the first manufactured bands, purely for eurovision, and were still working. I mean, we were gigging last night. Weve been gigging last night. Weve been gigging all this week and weve never really stopped. Weve also done four so its given four new albums, so its given us the most enormous platform and i recommend it. I know weve had some really dark, grim years , not really not doing very well , lets face it. But its changed. Sam ryder changed the whole landscape of eurovision for the uk and everyones just really excited. And i think in these times we really need a bit of excitement liverpool have of excitement. So liverpool have done proud. Jay of excitement. So liverpool have done proud. Jay thank of excitement. So liverpool have done proud. Jay thank you so done us proud. Jay thank you so much done us proud. Jay thank you so much for done us proud. Jay thank you so much for joining done us proud. Jay thank you so much forjoining us jay thank you so much forjoining us from much for joining us from hhwehhooh much for joining us from hhwehhooh. Much for joining us from liverpool. Well, and we also liverpool. Well, and we also hom liverpool. Well, and we also from everybody liverpool. Well, and we also from everybody here want to wish wow from everybody here want to wish wow oowohheh from everybody here want to wish your daughter well from everybody here want to wish your daughter well as well. Hoehe your daughter well as well. Woehe. Hor your daughter well as well. Josie, for all your daughter well as well. Josie, for all shes been hhhowoh. Josie, for all shes been through. And josie, for all shes been through. And you as an amazing mother. Through. And you as an amazing mother, supporting her. So thank you mother, supporting her. So thank wow. Mother, supporting her. So thank wow. Hhohh mother, supporting her. So thank wow. Hhohh wow mother, supporting her. So thank wow. Hhohh wow. Mother, supporting her. So thank you. Thank you. Well, here we you. Thank you. Well, here we hh you. Thank you. Well, here we hh hhe you. Thank you. Well, here we are in the studio. You. Thank you. Well, here we are in the studio. Weve got showhhz are in the studio. Weve got showhhz. Are in the studio. Weve got showbiz , weve are in the studio. Weve got showbiz , weve got sport, weve showbiz, weve got sport, weve got showbiz, weve got sport, weve ooh howhew showbiz, weve got sport, weve got hayley palmer, weve got ahooh got hayley palmer, weve got ahooh aaooee got hayley palmer, weve got aidan magee. So got hayley palmer, weve got aidan magee. So going to i oee aidan magee. So going to i oee hhe aidan magee. So going to i guess, the excitement of the hwowhehoh. Guess, the excitement of the eurovision. I guess, the excitement of the eurovision. I know youre exehheeh eurovision. I know youre excited. Youve eurovision. I know youre excited. Youve been talking ohowh excited. Youve been talking ohowh hh excited. Youve been talking about it all excited. Youve been talking about it all week non stop. About it all week non stop. I oheohwehw about it all week non stop. I absolutely have. And about it all week non stop. Chitcg and ive got to absolutely have. And ive got to say, absolutely have. And ive got to eow. H absolutely have. And ive got to eow. H iweh absolutely have. And ive got to eow. H we ow absolutely have. And ive got to eow. H we ow oh absolutely have. And ive got to say, i just put on my chitcg and ive got to say, i just put on my instagram hhoh say, i just put on my instagram hhoh h say, i just put on my instagram hhoh h oh say, i just put on my instagram that i am predicting sweden to win that i am predicting sweden to who hohhohh. That i am predicting sweden to win tonight. And that i am predicting sweden to win tonight. h that i am predicting sweden to win tonight. H win tonight. And you know, me. A power win tonight. And you know, me. A palmer prediction win tonight. And you know, me. A palmer prediction were win tonight. H a palmer prediction were always hhohh a palmer prediction were always hhohh. A palmer prediction were always hhohh. Hoe a palmer prediction were always hhohh. Oh a palmer prediction were always right, more or less. A palmer prediction were always right , more or less. right, more or less. Sweden or finland , finland second, sweden finland, finland second, sweden first. Okay. Finland, finland second, sweden first. Okay. Uk top ten. Okay first. Okay. Uk top ten. Okay how first. Okay. Uk top ten. Okay the enough. First. Okay. Uk top ten. Okay fair enough. Are you going along with that . Akua lrt the former ewehoh with that . Akua lrt the former ewehoh hohoee cehc7 akua lrt the former Crystal Palace midfielder and hhhhoho Crystal Palace midfielder and finland international. Hes hheooeo finland international. Hes pleaded with finland international. Hes pleaded with all crystal pleaded with all the crystal hohoee pleaded with all the Crystal Palace vote pleaded with all the Crystal Palace vote for pleaded with all the Crystal Palace vote for finland palace fans to vote for finland hohhohh palace fans to vote for finland tonight missus. Palace fans to vote for finland tonight missus isi tonight because his missus is ehhohho tonight because his missus is ehhohho hohhohh tonight because his missus is singing tonight qatar her name is. Singing tonight qatar her name he. He singing tonight qatar her name he. Hhe o singing tonight qatar her name he. Hhe o eohehw singing tonight qatar her name is. Its a catchy soon oh dear. Is. Its a catchy soon oh dear. Oh is. Its a catchy soon oh dear. Oh hohhhhe is. 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Thats. � hfohheh who are 7 to 1. Thats. What ohowh who are 7 to 1. Thats. What ohow hh who are 7 to 1. Thats. What about if somebody whos about if its somebody whos pleasing the all pleasing to the eye and all the rest it maybe charismatic rest of it and maybe charismatic or whatever . About aidans or whatever . What about aidans chances be the next . Chances to be the next . Definitely not. No, no. Come on. Honh. Definitely not. No, no. Come on. Honh honh definitely not. No, no. Come on. Dont. Dont leave me with that. Id have gb news. Id have to leave gb news. I dont want that. So whats dont want to do that. So whats hohoehhho dont want to do that. So whats hohhehhho hh dont want to do that. So whats hohhehhho he he dont want to do that. So whats happening in the world h hith c h hith so whats happening in the world of sport . Wou. Happening in the world of sport . Wehh. Hete happening in the world of sport . Wehh. Hote keep happening in the world of sport . Well, lets keep it happening in the world of sport . Well, lets keep it eurovision zahawi because Pep Guardiola is not happy with eurovision and hes not happy with the police in merseyside because they hes not happy with the police in mersto side because they hes not happy with the police in mersto play because they hes not happy with the police in mersto play everton they hes not happy with the police in mersto play everton tomorrow. Having to play everton tomorrow. Now what the problem here is that theyre playing real madrid in the second leg of the champions wednesday. Champions league on wednesday. They in they were due to play in liverpool and they cant liverpool today and they cant do because police do that because the police have said both the said they cant police both the game at goodison park or the eurovision event. Takes just game at goodison park or the eurcontext, vent. Takes just game at goodison park or the eurcontext, ithnt. Takes just game at goodison park or the eurcontext, it takes takes just game at goodison park or the eurcontext, it takes upzes just game at goodison park or the eurcontext, it takes up to just game at goodison park or the eurcontext, it takes up to 600 for context, it takes up to 600 Police Officers to police a Top Premier League game like everton against manchester city. It means team have. Means that his team may have. Theyve days theyve had an extra days weekend or extra days for weekend or extra days rest for this weekend , which is this game this weekend, which is good, means real madrid, good, but it means real madrid, who last night, have who played last night, will have 48 going into 48 hours more rest going into the wednesday and he the game on wednesday and he thinks its going to scupper could chances could scupper their chances of winning the treble, an historic treble, time treble, by the way. First time anyones if anyones done it since 1999. If it happens. And of course, its it happens. And of course, its hhe it happens. And of course, its hhe play it happens. And of course, its hhe hhow offe it happens. And of course, its the play offs this c and of course, its the play offs this weekend, the hhohhw the play offs this weekend, the mighty tomorrow, mighty Bradford City tomorrow, not mighty Bradford City tomorrow, hoh hoohhho mighty Bradford City tomorrow, not lookingfar mighty Bradford City tomorrow, not looking far down. Not looking that far down. Hooe not looking that far down. Hehe hook not looking that far down. Lets look at not looking that far down. Lets look at the not looking that far down. Lets look at the premier. Lets look at premier league and look at the premier league and the now. Yeah, look at the premier league and the got now. Yeah, look at the premier league and the got sutherland now. Yeah, weve got sutherland against luton club luton today sunderland huge club they obviously went around they were obviously went around they were obviously went around the didnt they the netflix vibe didnt they a few ago and were few years ago and they were embarrassed and they were terribly could terribly run club. They could come league come back to the premier league over of weeks. Over the next couple of weeks. Luton got a 10,500 luton town have got a 10,500 seater not being the luton town have got a 10,500 seaflight not being the luton town have got a 10,500 seaflight for not being the luton town have got a 10,500 seaflight for 31 not being the luton town have got a 10,500 seaflight for 31 years. Ing the luton town have got a 10,500 seaflight for 31 years. Ingthey � ie top flight for 31 years. If they get in, thatll be a huge get back in, thatll be a huge story because be story as well because theyll be the first they be the the first they could be the first to premier first club to go to the premier league from non league because thats they sank. Thats how how far they sank. They in non league years they were in non league 13 years ago. So it would be extraordinary. Haley, ago. So it would be extraordinary. Haley, im ago. So it would be extraordinary. Haley, im going to extraordinary. Haley, im going ho wow extraordinary. Haley, im going ho wow wheel to ask you, whats your type . Oeee to ask you, whats your type . Because story to ask you, whats your type . Because story in. To ask you, whats your type . L because story in the because this was a story in the heweweeh because this was a story in the news. Week. Well because this was a story in the news week. Well frankie news this week. Well frankie hhhooe news this week. Well frankie bridge from news this week. Well frankie bridge from the news this week. Well frankie bridge from the saturdays, she eoho bridge from the saturdays, she eoho hhoh bridge from the saturdays, she said thatshe bridge from the saturdays, she said that she first saw said that when she first saw wowhe said that when she first saw wowhe hhhooe said that when she first saw wowhe hhhooe. Said that when she first saw wayne bridge , that he wasnt her wayne bridge, that he wasnt her twie wayne bridge, that he wasnt her we oh wayne bridge, that he wasnt her we oh oh. Wayne bridge, that he wasnt her we oh oh. Hw wayne bridge, that he wasnt her type at all, but he wayne bridge, that he wasnt her type at all, but he kind of grew on her. Type at all, but he kind of grew on her. So type at all, but he kind of grew on her. So h type at all, but he kind of grew on her. So i guess type at all, but he kind of grew on her. G c c on her. So i guess its like sometimes you have to give people a chance because actually, kindness is really important and its also how someone treats you, isnt it . Someone treats you, isnt it . So shes the singer from the sohwoowe. So shes the singer from the saturdays. Hes so shes the singer from the saturdays. Hes a footballer. Yes saturdays. Hes a footballer. Hee. He saturdays. Hes a footballer. Hee. He he saturdays. Hes a footballer. Hee. He he. Saturdays. Hes a footballer. Yes, he is. But saturdays. Hes a footballer. Yes, he is. But do saturdays. Hes a footballer. Yes, he is. H hith saturdays. Hes a footballer. Yes, he is. H hith yes, he is. But do you have the best looking guy . Do have best looking guy . Do you have a type . Though . Was he . And type . Ugly though . Was he . And he he type . Ugly though . Was he . And he he o type . Ugly though . Was he . And he is a footballer. Type . Ugly though . Was he . And he is a footballer. Im cg zhhit7 ugly though . Was he . And he is a footballer. Im sure hee he is a footballer. Im sure hee wool he is a footballer. Im sure hee wow hove hes doing well. Do you have a type . I do. Are you going type . I do. I do. Are you going to or. Im to share that with us or. Im not . No because i dont think. Was it love at first sight for you when me, esther, you when you saw me, esther, you told esther. No, told me it wasnt esther. No, aiden , youre right. It wasnt. Aiden, youre right. It wasnt. It aiden, youre right. It wasnt. H wowh aiden, youre right. It wasnt. H wowh. Aiden, youre right. It wasnt. It wasnt. But then that shows. It wasnt. But then that shows. It wasnt. But then that shows. It wasnt. But then that shows. It wasnt for a while. That shows what is important, isnt it . So and this is what frankie saying. What are you trying to eowe saying. What are you trying to eowe heee saying. What are you trying to say . Because it saying. What are you trying to say . Because it is g what are you trying to say . 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And she did. She did wear down eventually. She did wear me down eventually. Veoh she did wear me down eventually. Veoh she did wear me down eventually. Yeah kindness, she did wear me down eventually. Yeah kindness, consideration. I dont like being ignored in texts either. Thats a bit difficult for me. But then flexibility as well. You know, i like someone who can change plans notice. Plans at late notice. Thats good you good for me. So you like you like exactly the like somebody whos exactly the opposite of you. No, no, no, no, no, opposite of you. No, no, no, no, noho opposite of you. No, no, no, no, hono hoohhho opposite of you. No, no, no, no,j no,no. Lookinghow no, no, no. Looking though. How wowhe ool would they look like . What do you i would they look like . What do wow h oohh would they look like . What do. You i dont really you like looking . I dont really howe you like looking . I dont really have if you look. If you have a type. If you look. 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And when you look at those photos, theres so hweh look at those photos, theres so hwehoho look at those photos, theres so hwehoho wow look at those photos, theres so much and you think, much tension and you think, is it much tension and you think, is hh oehhhho much tension and you think, is hh oewhho hoehi it actually worth getting back whhh it actually worth getting back whhhe it actually worth getting back whhhe h it actually worth getting back with . I dont it actually worth getting back with . I dont think so. I with an ex . I dont think so. I oohh with an ex . I dont think so. I oohh hhhhh with an ex . I dont think so. I dont think you with an ex . I dont think so. I dont think you can ever backwards. Dont think you can ever backwards. Hiiheh dont think you can ever backwards. Hiiheh hghitc dont think you can ever backwards. Can you ever get back with you ever tried with an ex . Have you ever tried to back with an ex . Have to get back with an ex . I have actually. 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Woo how he slamming the door at the chance. Ive had the chance, slamming the door at the chance. Ive had the chance,know. Ive had the chance, you know. Oh, it . Move on quietly oh, is that it . Move on quietly. Hes a hardliner, isnt he . Absolute hardline by the way. Im bradford going to get promoted into. I cant see what i want. No promoted into. I cant see what iwant. No i cant. I cant promoted into. I cant see what i want. No i cant. I cant see. You cant see it. Well, i just. I you cant see it. Well, i just. H eo you cant see it. Well, i just. H. You cant see it. Well, i just. H. Who you cant see it. Well, i just. I mean , who they you cant see it. Well, i just. I mean , who they got. H hithc. Hieh c c well, ijust. I mean , who they got. Sorry. No i mean, who they got. Sorry. No cohhehe i mean, who they got. Sorry. No carlisle arent i mean, who they got. Sorry. No carlisle arent they. I mean, who they got. Sorry. No carlisle arent they. Yeah. Heoh carlisle arent they. Yeah. Yeah, thats carlisle arent they. Yeah. Yeah, thats right. Ill be. Hhh yeah, thats right. Ill be. In he yeah, thats right. Ill be. Ill be there yeah, thats right. Ill be. Ill be there tomorrow yeah, thats right. Ill be. Ill be there tomorrow night. Cheering yeah. Youve cheering them on. Yeah. Youve been few games since been going to a few games since hhewwe been going to a few games since hhewwe heeh been going to a few games since theyve been successful, havent been going to a few games since they itsween successful, havent been going to a few games since they its got successful, havent been going to a few games since they its got to. cessful, havent been going to a few games since they its got to. Mustul, havent been going to a few games since they its got to. Mustul, an ent you . Its got to. Must be an eheehhoh you . Its got to. Must be an. Election look, election coming up. Well look, hhohe wewel election coming up. Well look,| thats weve got thats it. Thats all weve got time thank you very thats it. Thats all weve got time indeed thank you very thats it. Thats all weve got time indeed , thank you very thats it. Thats all weve got time indeed , aiden, k you very thats it. Thats all weve got time indeed , aiden, thank very thats it. Thats all weve got time indeed , aiden, thank you much indeed, aiden, thank you very much well see you very much indeed. Well see you next thats all from us next week. Thats all from us today, but well see you on friday at 10 am. Therell be more me and phil and coming more from me and phil and coming up next is the wonderful Martin Daubney who will, im sure, be talking about your revision as well. And joy, everybody, enjoy hello. C hello. Good afternoon and welcome to gb news saturday. Im Martin Daubney and for the next three hours, ill be keeping you company on tv, online, and of course, on your digital radio. Weve got a tonne of stuff coming up on todays show , coming up on todays show, including net migration to the uk could hit 1 including net migration to the uk could hit1 million including net migration to the uk could hit 1 million this yeah uk could hit 1 million this year. I want to know , have we year. I want to know, have we completely lost control of our borders . Next, the government has scrapped its plans to ditch all eu laws, blaming the whitehall blob so has the bonfire of eu laws been