States to make it legal for recreational use. If it passes, pot would be legal in almost a quarter of the country. To understand the pros and cons of legalized marijuana, we went to colorado, the heartland of Legal Marijuana in america. Is it fair to say this is tricky . It is fair to say this is more than tricky. This is, you know, about the hardest, most complicated thing in public life that ive ever had to work on. . . . Cooper something unusual happened on the way to the Grammy Awards this past year. An album was nominated from malawi. The artists werent polished pop stars, but prisoners and guards, in a place called zomba. A maximum security prison, so decrepit and overcrowded, its been called hells waiting room. . . . Come from such misery . . . . We went to malawi to find out. . . . Im steve kroft. Im leslie stahl. Im bill whitaker. Im anderson cooper. Im scott pelley. Those stories, tonight on 60 minutes. Cbs money watch sponsored by American Express open. 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Unitedhealthcare uhhuh pelley about 260 americans have joined, or tried to join, terrorists overseas. How is an american drawn into a group that seeks to destroy everything that america stands for . Abdirizak warsame has an exotic name, but he was an american teenager, living with his mom in minneapolis, who became the leader of an isis cell, sending other young men from minneapolis to their deaths. Warsame will be sentenced soon. He is facing up to 15 years in prison, but he was released from jail for one day to ta t before the judge passes sentence, to explain how he fell for isis in gods name. Abdirizak warsame the reason i wanted to go to syria was, i felt like it was my duty. I felt like it was something that i had to do. And if i didnt do it, i would be, basically a disgrace to god. I would be a disgrace to the world. I would be a disgrace to my family. Pelley did you see the pelley of them shooting people and throwing them into the river, one after another . The jordanian pilot that they burned to death . Did you think you were going to be doing that kind of thing . Warsame yeah. I was going to be participating in those activities. Pelley because those people werent true muslims. Warsame right. Pelley and therefore they deserved to die . Warsame correct. Pelley Abdirizak Warsame learned the theology of murder in minneapolis, minnesota. He was an american kid rising in a tough neighborhood but police. He found his way through high school chasing a basketball, pursuing poetry, and music. Warsame when i say cedar, you say riders cedar pelley cedar, as in cedar riverside, was his neighborhood where 20,000 refugees from somalia began to settle in the 1990s. They set their hearts on the american dream, but like most immigrant communities, the first generation kids grew up between too foreign for many americans, too american for their parents. Warsame i went to school with a lot of kids that were not somali. And so i kind of got into that culture, you know, music. Going to prom, dancing, its hard to kind of explain that stuff to your parents, when they kind of really dont understand what it is. Pelley his mother didnt understand why he was hanging out with tough boys in cedar, so she prodded him to go to the mosque. Warsame learning about t religion and reciting the quran, i started to become more religious. I felt like there was something that was missing in me. Pelley the mosque was not extremist, but the lessons were in somali, and warsame looked for an englishspeaking imam online. Anwar alawlaki we are fighting for a noble cause. We are fighting for god. Pelley he found, anwar al awlaki, born in new mexico, and a leading spiritual advisor for al qaeda. Lectures glorifying war on nonbelievers. Warsame one of the lectures was titled, battle of the hearts and minds. And what they do is try to get your heart and your mind and try to get you to join their cause. And so, whether youre doing something good for your community, whether youre going to school, whether you have a nice job, all of that, theyre going to make it seem like its worthless. And that there is something greater that you can be doing. Pelley awlaki was killed by a u. S. Drone five years ago. But online, life is everlasting. Warsame he explained how islam was, you know, like, my calling. It was almost like he was talking to you. And like it made you feel like you were special, you know . And like youre the chosen one. And the more i listened to it, the more it was appealing to me and the more interesting it became. Pelley how much time did you spend watching these videos . Continuously watch them when i wasnt doing anything. When i wasnt at school or doing my homework or, you know, out with my family. I was watching those videos. Awalki we are facing you with men who love death just like you love life. Pelley around the videos grew a congregation, eleven of warsames friends. Warsame i thought i was the only one. But when i met these group of men that i was friends with, it was kind of shocking to see that they also knew about these we would listen and listen and listen until we became, you know, wrapped in this ideology. All those lectures would talk about how it wasnt a time for just, you know, talking, but it was a time for action. Pelley the route to action was a link away, in the recruitment videos of isis. Music videos, a language the boys could understand. Than your neighborhood in minnesota . Warsame yes. Pelley how could that be . Warsame it kind of takes control of you. And you think youre doing something for a greater cause. And you think youre doing it for good. Pelley and what was that . Warsame most of the videos would talk about how if you would engage in jihad, you would be doing your family a favor. And that you would be saving their lives from eternal hellfire. Pelley that if you died as a martyr, you would not only go to paradise your whole family would go with you. Warsame whole family would go to paradise. Pelley and you were trying to be the best muslim you could be . Warsame correct. You want to be the hero. You want to save everyone. And you want to do good. Pelley in 2014, at the age of 19, warsame helped organize a plot to join isis in syria. He helped his friends get passports and made connections with people who could smuggle them through turkey. Yusuf jama, and abdi nur. Nur sent back facebook pictures. Warsame i remember him telling me, you know, im having the time of my life, and he was fulfilling his dream or on his way to heaven. Pelley what happened to him . Warsame i believe hes dead. Pelley how did that happen . Warsame he was fighting, and he was killed. Pelley yusuf jama was also killed. Are you responsible for their deaths . Warsame yeah, i believe i am responsible for their deaths, and i think about that every day. Pelley and if you had been able to get to syria, what do you think would have happened to you by now . Warsame i probably would be dead right now. Pelley after your friend, abdi nur, left minneapolis, his mother was trying to find him. She was desperate. Warsame she was desperate. She needed answers. And, i knew where he was going. And i did the unthinkable and i i didnt know where her son was. Pelley she was trying to save his life. Warsame yeah. That was very evil of me to do. Pelley as more of warsames group applied for passports, one of them was evasive about where he was going, and a passport official passed along his suspicions. The f. B. I. Got involved and convinced one of the conspirators to cooperate. Andrew luger he ended up wearing a recording de two months, and thats one of the ways that we have such good insight into the thinking of these coconspirators. Pelley u. S. Attorney andrew luger ran the prosecution. Luger theres a pull and a push. And the pull is this ideology that says were building the perfect world. You belong with us. Come join it. And the push is theyre not going to treat you like we will. Youre always going to be an outsider. Pelley it sounds like a gang recruiting a kid in chicago . Luger there are a lot of it goes a little deeper, though, because this message of, you dont belong in the west, is so dangerous. Pelley luger meets with the community often in hopes of warning parents and turning young men around. Luger our job is not only to catch and prosecute criminals, but to prevent criminal activity in the first place. Mohamed amin if theres violence in society, everyone loses pelley mohamed amin is among those fighting the isis message with one of his own. Amin were comparing their system, al qaeda, Islamic State. Why is our system better . Because its fairer. Its just, its more open and more importantly, it works pelley amin works in a gas station and spends his money producing antiisis cartoons under the name average mohamed. What do you think your Job Description is when you join the Islamic State . Behead unarmed innocent people. Empower unelected, bloodthirsty individuals as leaders. Amin given resources and opportunity, we can win this fight. Pelley why do you think so . Amin because i have hope. Peace supersedes violence. Freedom supersedes hate. And my Community Wants to be part of the american dream. We love our country. Its a great country. Its given us a lot. A lot. Luger we have to work with all minnesotans to combat islamophobia, because racial bigotry and religious bigotry helps the isil narrative, and weve got to stop it. Pelley how does it help . Luger you listen to these young men, and theyre hearing a message that says, youre not wanted in the west. So when a mother is beaten in a restaurant, which happened last year here, simply because she was somali, had a beer mug smashed across her face and told, go home in front of little kids, that helps that isil narrative. Citizen . Luger yes. Pelley and her kids were too . Luger yes. Pelley and so when the person said, go home . Luger the kids said, what do they mean . We just want to eat at applebees. Pelley andrew luger prosecuted nine of warsames group. Four had been intercepted at j. F. K. Airport in new york on their way to syria. Warsame and five others pled guilty to supporting a terrorist organization. Warsame i pled guilty because i knew i was guilty. Pelley another who pled guilty was zacharia abdurahman. His father, yusuf, told us that his son had been working nights to go to college by day. He told us he never saw trouble until he looked in hindsight. Yusuf abdurahman in our culture, where i come from, we are very harsh. Nomadic society, very harsh. We dont do compliments, we dont praise the kids, we dont hug them. We dont just tell them, we love you. You, until he get caught and hes behind bars. We are out of touch with our children. Im not computer savvy. These children, these computers and this internet this is their toys. Pelley their toys. Abdurahman yeah. Pelley and you didnt know what was happening. Abdurahman we didnt know whats happening at the time. You know, im a parent that his kid is in jail now. You know, im sorry what hes going through. But, you know, im very glad that hes here. Im very glad that he was caught, that he was stopped. Pelley youre glad that he was caught . Abdurahman yes. Yes, hes alive. Pelley of the twelve, two were killed, the one who cooperated with the f. B. I. Has not been charged, six pled guilty, and three were convicted at trial. Warsame testified for the prosecution. And these selfies were part of the evidence. Did you write those words . Warsame yeah. It says till the death of me, baby. Pelley and what did that mean . Warsame that meant, this is what i stood for. To die for it . Warsame for this cause. Pelley hoping to die for it . Warsame yeah. Pelley youre looking at potentially 15 years in prison. Who do you blame for that . Warsame myself. At the end of the day, i was the one who made those decisions. Im trying to do the best that i can, to make up for all of the things that ive done. Pelley do you really believe that, or are you saying it so the judge will go easy on you . Warsame i really believe that. What ive done is something that nobody can be proud of. Its very shameful. I might be very remorseful, but i havent done any actions to correct those wrongs. Pelley and thats what this interview is . Warsame its the only reason im doing this interview, is to make up for the wrong that ive done. Pelley and to those young men who are watching those same videos right now, today . You say, what . Warsame i say its not worth it. Suffering just because you believe in something that is total nonsense. That doesnt make sense. Its not worth your life. Pelley you watched those videos to change your life. And they have. Warsame correct. . To protect them. Making the right decisions today for your longterm financial future can protect you and your family, and preserve your legacy. Ask a Financial Advisor how retirement and Life Insurance solutions from pacific life can help you plan for your future. Remember when they used to say, Free Shipping and handling . What ever happened to the handling . I do all the handling. On everything at dell. Com. Pelley now, dr. John lapook on assignment for 60 minutes. Lapook 5 of americans live in states where pot is legal for recreational use, but by next wednesday, that percentage could swell to almost 25 . Its on the ballot in five states california, massachusetts, maine, arizona and nevada. If it passes in those states, it shift in attitudes. The latest poll shows more than half of americans favor legalization. The state with the most experience with legal recreational pot is colorado, which allowed retail sale of the drug, starting in 2014. No other state has gone further or faster into the legal weed business, but its still in its infancy and remains an experiment. So with next weeks vote in mind, we went to colorado to find out whats working, and this county in southern colorado has been called the napa valley of cannabis for a reason. No community has felt the impact of legalization more powerfully than pueblo. A former steel town of 160,000 residents, it is now home to over 90 pot growing facilities. This is the heartland of Legal Marijuana in america, and it goes on as far as the eye can see. This is enormous how big is this . Bob degabrielle we have 36 acres here, and there is 21,600 plants between all the four licenses. Lapook 21,600 plants. Thats a lot of plants. Bob degabrielle is a founder of this industrial scale enterprise, which he runs with his 27yearold son, ketch. Just three years ago, he was a Real Estate Developer from north carolina. Now he owns Los Suenos Farms, the largest recreational cultivation facility in the country. Bob degabrielle came out and looked at it from an investment standpoint, then just decided to stay out here. Realized that colorado was really the epicenter of what was happening in the industry. Lapook bob and his partners have invested 10 million in colorados tightly regulated industry, which requires that every plant grown by a licensed operator be entered into a database, outfitted with a radio frequency tag, and tracked from seed to sale. This is hightech, highsecurity retail cultivation, where 289 cameras track every plant and 22,000 pounds of marijuana are harvested a year, then cured in barrels like wine. Where does it go from here . Ketch degabrielle so from here, it will go through our trimming machines and well trim it. Lapook it will also be inspected by the state for quality control. At Los Suenos Farms, they are on track to rake in about 20 million a year in this budding industry, and they say it has been very good for Pueblo County too. Ways, its been an economic windfall for the community. Lapook marijuana has created 1,300 jobs and more than 60 businesses in pueblo. There are 85 employees at los suenos, and they all have to pass background checks and be fingerprinted. But while five u. S. States will have legalization of Recreational Marijuana on the ballot, this Colorado County is considering restricting it. On election day, voters in pueblo will decide whether the county should op production and sale of recreational pot. That would force Los Suenos Farms out of business within a year. How would that affect you financially . Bob degabrielle oh, it would be devastating, in terms of the amount of money that weve put in here, and the time that weve put in here. Ketch degabrielle making it illegal here does absolutely nothing to get cannabis out of here. It just means you have to drive to the next county to purchase it. What recreational flavors do we have today . Lapook when Recreational Marijuana was legalized in sale of it. Pueblo did, and there have been both profits and problems ever since. Steven simerville its affecting the emergency room, its affecting the operating room. Its affecting just about every aspect of medicine that you could think of. Lapook dr. Steven simerville is a pediatrician, and medical director of the newborn intensive care unit at pueblos saint mary corwin medical center. He supports the Ballot Initiative to ban recreational pot, in part because he says hes noticed more babies being his observations are anecdotal, but hes concerned by what he has seen in his own hospital. In the first nine months of this year, 27 babies born at this hospital tested positive for t. H. C. , the psychoactive ingredient in marijuana. Thats on track to be about 15 higher than last year. When was the last time you took care of a baby who tested positive for marijuana . Simerville i have babies up on the unit right now who are positive for. Lapook right now . Lapook and when were they born . Simerville all of them were within a week. Lapook what does the mother say, when you say your babys just tested positive for marijuana, and it can possibly harm the baby . What does the mother say . Simerville theyre not surprised that it theyre tested positive. Obviously, they know theyve been smoking marijuana, but theyre in disbelief that its harmful. They frequently say, how can it be harmful . Its a legal drug. Lapook dr. Simerville says thats a common misconception, especially because 25 states have approved marijuana for epilepsy, pain and stimulation of appetite. But on the federal level, its still illegal. Todays pot is on average four to five times stronger than it was in the 1980s. It can also get passed on to babies in high concentrations in breast milk. Simerville i try to explain to them that even though youre not smoking very much, the baby is getting seven times more than youre taking, and that theres this drug has been shown to babies exposed to marijuana in utero may develop verbal, memory and behavioral problems during early childhood. Simerville you need to be able to protect babies. And youre going to need to protect teenagers. And by teenagers, who are developing brains, you have to take in mind that marijuana potentially permanently affects brain growth until people are 25 or 30. Lapook in the first ten months of this year, 71 teenagers came into the emergency room at this hospital with marijuana in their system, which is on track to be about that worries dr. Simerville, because evidence is emerging that heavy teenage use using four to five days a week may be linked to longterm damage in areas of the brain that help control cognitive functions like attention, memory and decision making. Its not known if theres any amount of marijuana that is safe for the developing brain, which may still be maturing during the mid to late20s. Law enforcement officers in are seeing more marijuana related problems. Kirk taylor they said the black market will disappear. Well, i can tell you, the black market is alive and well and thriving. In fact, its exploding. Lapook youre used to seeing this much marijuana. I am not. Taylor usually its indoors and a little taller. Lapook sheriff kirk taylor is aggressively tackling a problem known as illegal homegrows. Criminal organizations are coming to colorado to grow marijuana illegally for out of state diversion. Sheriff taylor says they had one Recreational Marijuana was legalized. In the last six months, theyve had 36. Sheriff, whos behind the illegal grows . Taylor different groups of folks. Cuban nationals from florida. Weve busted russians from new york. The pattern that theyve shown here in the last six months is, theyll come in and buy a home or rent a home or a series of homes. And theyll set up grows in those homes whether it be in the garages, in the out buildings, very sophisticated. Theyre hottapping into the lapook we were with Sheriff Taylor in pueblo as swat team members and federal Drug Enforcement agents gathered before dawn to stage one of the largest illegal homegrow busts in the country. If you guys arent familiar, this is a huge operation. Five counties involved, about seven different agencies. Lapook more than 150 deputies and agents armed with 13 search warrants were preparing for a coordinated strike. The target of the days raid was a drug cartel from southeast asia, suspected of converting ten rental homes into grow operations that are hiding in plain sight. So the feeling is, this is organized crime here . Taylor absolutely. Lapook this is not a one or twoperson operation . Taylor no, this is not a mom and pop, lets grow a little weed. This is organized crime. Lapook this raid was three months in the planning, and came and resulted in the seizure of more than 22,000 pounds of Marijuana Plants in all, with a potential value of over 7 million. That amount is doubled if its sold outofstate, but these plants will be destroyed. Illegal grows like this are not the only problem cops here are facing. Some people are getting high, then getting behind the wheel. And there is currently no field sobriety test in use that is the equivalent of the breathalizer for alcohol, though Colorado Police a roadside oral swab tests. Marilyn huestis theres huge differences between alcohol and marijuana, and thats one of the things the public really needs to understand, is, they think well, we can take all the rules and everything weve set up for alcohol and just transfer them over. And they cant do that. Lapook dr. Marilyn huestis, former chief of chemistry and drug metabolism at the National Institute on drug abuse, has been studying marijuanas effects on the human body for more than 25 years. Then it leaves the body. When you take cannabis, it gets into the tissues of your body and is stored. Lapook it can be stored in the fat . Huestis its stored in the fat. Lapook how about the brain . Huestis and the brain is a very fat fatty tissue, and so we know that its still in the brain when you can no longer measure it in the blood. Lapook so far, colorado hasnt seen a huge spike in driving while high or in marijuana abuse by teens. But the data is still being impact on the state. All these issues sit on the shoulders of governor john hickenlooper, who was originally against the legalization of Recreational Marijuana. John hickenlooper my biggest concern is that were not collecting data. And what ive told other governors is, dont wait for the laws to change start collecting baseline data now. How many kids are using marijuana . Start looking in accidents was there t. H. C. Involved . So that we really have good baselines, so that, as we legalize it, we can see what the effects of legalization itself really are. Lapook they are already learning from some early mistakes. After a number of people overdosed on marijuana edibles, colorado implemented new rules, limiting the amount of t. H. C. In products, and requiring new labels detailing the potency of each serving. On the positive side, governor hickenlooper says last year, revenue from marijuana brought in 141 million in taxes, and hes encouraged that arrests for since 2012. Hickenlooper no one can argue the old system wasnt a disaster. We had an old system where kids had open access to marijuana and everything was black market. There was no regulation. There was all illegal activity. We were creating whole generations of kids that were growing up thinking that to break the law and make money selling drugs was perfectly fine. Thats what were trying to fight against. Lapook is it fair to say this is tricky . This is about the hardest, most complicated thing in public life that ive ever had to work on. Lapook five states have Recreational Marijuana on the ballot. Hickenlooper i know. Lapook what kind of advice are you giving them . Hickenlooper i urge caution. My recommendation has been that they should go slowly and probably wait a couple of years. And lets make sure that we get some good vertical studies to make sure that there isnt a dramatic increase in teenage usage, that there isnt a significant increase in abuse, like while driving. We dont see it yet, but the and we dont have enough data yet to make that decision. Lapook so youre not confident yet that we really know whats going on yet to say go ahead, legalize . Hickenlooper right, not without certainty. I feel confident enough now that im not trying to turn the clock back. Even with all the problems we have and the challenges. I think we might be able to do this. But im not so confident that im telling the other states yeah, go for it. This is going to be this is a this cbs sports update is brought to you bid for division. Im james brown with scores from the nfl today. Tom brady threw four more touchdowns and led new england to its fourth straight win. The jets overcame a 13point halftime deficit to down the browns. Oakland wins its fifth in the road on the road as derek carr throws four scores. Carolina sacked Carson Palmer four times. K. C. Wins its third straight. For more sports news and go to cbssports. Com. . One smart choice leads to the next. . The new 2017 ford fusion is here. Its the beauty of a wellmade choice. I served under president bush and obama. I fought the taliban. I was asked to form a Global Coalition to counter isil. When someone makes the comment that they know more about the Islamic State or isil than do the generals, it implies a complete ignorance of the reality. But i believe secretary clinton really understands the threat that the Islamic State poses to the United States and to the american people. And i believe she understands how to wield American Power to ultimately defeat this threat and to keep us safe. Im Hillary Clinton cooper something unusual happened on the way to the Grammy Awards this past year. An album was nominated from malawi, a small country in Southern Africa not exactly famous for its music. The artists werent polished pop stars, but prisoners and guards, a maximum security prison, so decrepit and overcrowded, we heard it referred to as the waiting room of hell. How could such beautiful music come from such misery . We went to malawi to find out. . . . . . . This is the music that brought us to malawi, one of the least developed nations on the planet. . . . Its a place of staggering beauty. Theres vast mountains, lush forests, and a long, idyllic lake. Drive through the countryside, however, and you quickly see poverty is widespread. For the countrys 17 million people, life is full of hardships. Zomba is malawis only maximum security prison, and the music . . . This prison was built to hold around 400 inmates. Today there are 2,400 here. . . . Whats so startling when you walk into the prison yard on a sunday morning, is that everywhere you turn, there is music. . . . A cacophony of choirs. . . . Many here are hardened criminals robbers, rapists, murderers. Others are casualties of a legal system that can be chaotic and arbitrary, where court files are routinely lost, and most suspects have no legal representation. In a small room off the yard, theres a prison band practicing every day on donated instruments. . . . Those men in green are guards. They play side by side with inmates. . . . Ian brennan, an american producer who travels the world recording new music in unlikely places, heard about zomba, and three years ago, flew to malawi to check it out. Youre taking a gamble. Because you go to places, you dont necessarily know whats there, right . Ian brennan no, no, no. We we have no idea. Its a leap of faith every single time. Cooper his was not the only leap of faith. Officer Thomas Binamo took one too. He helped found the prison band eight years ago, and wasnt sure what to think, the day ian brennan showed up. Thomas binamo translated laughs because i couldnt understand how this guy knew about us. And why would he be interested in our prison . Cooper its not every day a White American knocks on the prison door and says he wants to come in . Binamo translated yeah, its true. laughs its not every day. Brennan what took you so long . Cooper brennan saw promise in this prison, and the possibility of an album. So he set up his microphones and asked anyone interested to write and sing songs about their lives, men and women, inmates and guards. . . . It was something most had never done before. . . . What were you hoping to find . Brennan well you know, the thing we look for everywhere, which is, you know, music that resonates with us. This is what moves me. And hopefully itll move someone else. Cooper and when you hear it, you know it. Brennan yeah. Understand the words right away . Brennan its better when you dont understand the words. Because when you dont understand the words, you have to listen to what somebody means, not what theyre saying. And if they mean it. . . . Cooper officer binamo was reluctant to write and sing about his life, but when he did, ian brennan knew his music would be on the album. . . . Cooper just listen to what he came up with one morning when we were there a softlysung ballad about the sudden death of his wife. . . . You left without saying goodbye, he sings. You left behind the children, too, they no longer cry. . . . . . . Brennan laughs he writes songs and plays as hes reached that level of transcendence where it cant be better than it is. It just is. Its something that just hits you. . . . Cooper to fully appreciate the music here, you have to see the misery. But when we arrived at zomba, authorities didnt want us to show what life is like for the prisoners. So, much of what we filmed, we had to record secretly, without the guards knowing. Inmates in zomba are fed just one meal a day, a small bowl o gruel made out of cornflower. The menu, were told, rarely changes. On good days they get a few beans; on bad days, inmates say, theres no food at all. Chikondi salanje sang on the album nominated for a grammy. Hes doing time for burglary. Do you eat meat, chicken, beef . laughs when was the last time you had meat . Chikondi salanje 2014. 25 december. Cooper two and a half years ago . On Christmas Day . Salanje yeah. Cooper its not just the lack of food. Zomba is so overcrowded, prisoners say they only have enough room in their cells to sleep wedged against one another lying on their sides. Stefano nyirenda also sang on the album. So youre sleeping on your side . Stefano nyirenda translated when you want to turn, you have to do it together. Cooper right next to each other . How do you sleep . Nyirenda translated we just sleep. We have no choice. Cooper stefano is in for robbery, and he is h. I. V. Positive, as are around a quarter of zombas inmates. They occasionally get visits from an italian nun, sister anna tommasi, who runs a small legal aid to prisoners. If you were writing a postcard to somebody, who had never been to this prison, how would you describe it here . Sister anna tommasi oh. I think its impossible for somebody outside to get there are no words which could explain, because cooper what life is like here . Sister tommasi yes. I think, before you came, three days ago, if i had written anything, would do you think you could have had a clue . Cooper no. Sister tommasi sometimes, i call it, its the waiting room of hell. Cooper laughs thats what this prisois sometimes . Sister tommasi yeah. Cooper if it is the waiting room of hell, salvation for Chikondi Salanje comes from music. Salanje translated when im singing, i feel like im in another world. I dont feel like im in prison at all. Its only when i stop that i realize oh, im still in prison. When im singing, i forget about everything else. Cooper when the music stops, thats when you realize youre in prison . Salanje translated when were singing, the walls are no return, and then were back to counting the bricks again. . . . Cooper chikondi wouldnt have to count the bricks much longer. After five years here, he was about to get released. And when we were there, recorded a new song for ian brennan. Its about leaving prison. And his fears of life as a free man. Cooper dont call me a criminal, he sings. When i get home, theyll reject me. . . . When something goes missing, theyll accuse me of stealing. It hurts badly when you call me a criminal. . . . In the mens section of this prison, there are rooms where prisoners take classes taught by inmates and guards. There are also two small libraries where they pour over computer room. But in the womens section, there is no library, no computers. . . . There is little else, but music. . . . Until ian brennan came along, the women didnt have their own instruments, and they couldnt understand why he was interested in listening to their singing at all. Believed that they were not singers or songwriters. I mean, they were pretty adamant about this. And and just at the moment i i was getting pretty close to feeling like, well, you know, we we tried one person stepped forward and said, ive got a song. . . . And then, the minute she did that, they literally lined up. . . . Cooper rhoda mtemangiombe was one of those women who stepped forward. The song she wrote for the zomba prison album is called i am . . . What does that mean . Rhoda mtemangiombe translated i have no parents. I have no husband, and im here in prison. So i realize theres no one who can help me. So i ask god to help me. Hes the only one who can guide me across this huge river. Coo life sentence here in zomba. Shes in for murder. Do you feel like youre glorifying criminals . Brennan no. No, no, no. Its humanizing them cooper humanizing brennan not glorifying them, at all, right . Theyve committed crimes. Many of them have learned from their experiences. This is about humanizing individuals brennan and thats for the benefit, not of them; thats for the benefit of the listener. Cooper the album ian brennan recorded at zomba did not end up winning the grammy this past year. And it hasnt turned a profit either. And they have a contract to receive more money if there are future earnings. When he showed up at zomba with his wife marilena in may to present the prisoners with some gifts and their grammy nomination certificate, it was cause enough for celebration, . . . Though some of the singers, like stephano nyrenda, still had questions about what a grammy award really was. Nyrenda translated c cooper yeah, of course. Nyrenda translated this trophy, does it have any money inside of it, or is it just a small prize . Cooper its just a token, theres no money inside the inside the award. Nyrenda laughs . . . Cooper being nominated for a grammy has not changed life for the inmates inside zomba. . . . 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