And the criterion for that is i made it look the most easy. Stahl youth is set in the swiss alps. Michael caine plays fred ballinger, a retired, celebrated composer and conductor who has turned his back on music. But he cant help finding it everywhere. cow bells ring musically cow lows youre going to fix it. Now steve kroft Michael Fassbender and kate winslet were both nominated for oscars this year. Fix it what the . Kroft not because they are great actors, but because they had very demanding roles in a very unusual movie that allowed them to show just how good they are. Tell me whats wrong with you this morning. I just knew that it was going to be electric to be in a room with Michael Fassbender and danny boyle and i honestly promise you, it was. I drive a golf ball. I drive to the hoop. I drive a racecar. I have a driver. His name is carl. But thats not what we all have in common. We talked to our doctors about treatment with xarelto®. 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Abrams, the director handpicked to reignite the fan fervor, and who as we reported last december was under tremendous pressure to make sure disneys big bet pays off. Hes been called the Steven Spielberg of his generation, and we learned spielberg helped get him the job. When abrams took us behind the scenes, we found a 49yearold man fueled by a childlike enthusiasm for the magic of movies, and a movie thats going to hit some classic star wars notes. Six weeks before the premiere, we dropped in on a hollywood scoring session for the force awakens. Composer John Williams, who won an Academy Award for the first star wars film, was back, along with the iconic refrain he wrote 38 years ago. Take a look behind williams. Thats not some awestruck groupie. Thats the movies director, j. J. Abrams. I saw you up here with your video camera, taking. J. J. Abrams oh, well, this is. This is, like, momentous, you know John Williams conducting his star wars music. I mean, as a fan, i cant even believe i get to be here. Whitaker abrams saw star wars when he was 11, and never outgrew his passion for the film. On this day, when he wasnt in the middle of the orchestra, filming on his phone, he was racing around the soundstage, here the fan. John williams do you think it could work . Abrams let me just think. Yeah. Its incredible. Whitaker . There the director. Abrams we may need to make the bumbadabada. Repeat those bars just because it might be a little bit longer before we get into the interior of the transport. Whitaker i see you running around. I mean, youre very. Abrams really . Ive. Ive felt so calm today. Whitaker yeah. This is you, calm . Abrams really, this is me, oh, god. Whitaker this is you, calm . Abrams yeah. Whitaker is it intimidating, in any way . Abrams uh. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Its. There are moments of just abject terror, as to what. What were all taking on. Whitaker what hes taking on is this the force awakens. Disney is counting on abrams to expand the universe of star wars fans, while staying true to george lucas original vision. And the diehard fans their expectations are out of this world. The force its calling to you. Whitaker when the official trailer was posted online, it was viewed 112 million times in just 24 hours. Nothing will stand in our way. Whitaker talk about the force. The fans are a force to be reckoned with, and its intense. Abrams it is. Whitaker its not just the fans here; this is global. Abrams its not the movie. Its a. Its. Its bigger than all of us. Its a. Its almost a religion for people. Whitaker what grabbed you about star wars . Abrams the experience of it was so profound and so moving and so funny and so sweet that, for me, as a kid, it blew my mind. And it was just. It said, anything is possible. Whitaker abrams has been working on the force awakens nonstop for three years. Hes managed to keep a tight lid on it. This is one of the few clips disney has released. He told us his movie is set about 30 years after return of the jedi, the final film in the first trilogy. At the end of that movie, the good guys had vanquished the empire and subdued the dark side. Or so it seemed. What has been going on in that galaxy . Abrams return of the jedi seemed to end pretty happily. But the walk off to the sunset is always a misleading thing, because, well, then what . And so, one of the things that i think you see in this movie is that things didnt just end happily, and that the idea of the force both the dark and the light side are at a classic star wars place, which is in a desperate moment. Whitaker a moment which forces a new generation to step up. Finn we cant outrun them. Rey we might in that quad jumper. Whitaker stepping into a lead role 23yearold newcomer daisy ridley. Her character is rey, a desert scavenger. John boyega is another new face. He plays finn, a disillusioned stormtrooper. Finn ive got nothing to fight for. Whitaker your universe seems to be a more diverse place, by gender . By race . Abrams mmhmm. Whitaker what do you think the impact of that is going to be . Abrams when we started casting the movie, it felt incredibly important to me that the movie look like the world in which this movie is being released. Whitaker abrams didnt just direct the movie; he wrote it with lawrence kasdan, who wrote two of the original star wars with lucas. Abrams knew from the start he would tell a story that blended the new with the old. Taking his cue from the first trilogy, he made authenticity paramount, shooting in farflung locales, like this desert in abu dhabi. The sets were built from scratch; the explosions were real. Were there times when you stepped back from being the director and you were just the fan on the set . Abrams it was very hard to be in the 125degree heat in abu dhabi with actual stormtroopers running through this village that we had built, and not have moments constantly of holy. What the. . You know, i cant believe im here. It was constantly happening, and i had to suppress that and say, yep, okay, lets do it, and, like, put that away, because the job was not to be a wideeyed fan boy. The job was to be the director of the movie. Energy and action whitaker as the director, he managed a cast and crew of almost 1,000. He set limits on Computer Generated imagery. Most of abrams creatures, like the new droid bb8, were crafted by hand, including his own. Abrams we knew we had to have a hero droid that was not a familiar one. Whitaker and you came up with a concept, like, by sketching it out . Abrams i drew the dumbest little thing. I just. I drew something like. Like this. Whitaker he gave his sketch to the creature department, a group of about 100 artists and designers. They made a puppet. Abrams and the puppeteer came out with bb8, and he was moving around. And it was, like oh, my god, it lives. Rey where do you come from . Whitaker we watched as abrams worked on a scene where the droid meets rey for the first time. Abrams maybe we could connect them so its not so separate. Mmhmm. Whitaker so hes going to fit the pantheon r2d2, c3po. Now, bb8. Abrams from your mouth, sir. From your mouth, sir. I dont. I. I hope so. Whitaker only a handful of people have seen the finished film. One of them is abrams wife of 19 years, katie mcgrath. They have three children, a Charitable Foundation she oversees, and a harry met sally rapport. Katie mcgrath i love the movie. I really love the movie. And im sort of picky, and im a little, you know. Abrams brutally. Brutally honest. Mcgrath im. Im honest. And at the end of the day, its a movie. You know, this is not curing cancer. This is not eradicating poverty. This is. This is making a movie, right . Right . Thats what you believe, right . Abrams im sorry, she lost me after, this is just a movie. I was like. Whitaker Jeffrey Jacob abrams grew up in hollywoods backyard, not far from the big studios. But when he took a tour of a movie back lot at age eight, he knew hed found his calling. What in particular drew you to it . Abrams i think the thing that was so cool is the whole thing felt like a magic trick, that it was. It was every aspect of illusion, of creating something that seemed like it was actual. Actually happening and real. Whitaker he picked up the familys home movie camera and tried his own sleight of hand. Now, we seek revenge whitaker he admits his earliest works werent that good. But he got better. He won a teen Film Festival and got written up in the los angeles times. Thats him in the middle. The article caught the eye of Steven Spielberg. He reached out to the young filmmaker, who reminded him of himself. Today, spielberg is abrams friend, collaborator, and a big fan. What first struck you about him . Steven spielberg he just reminded me of a cartoon character that was so full of Magnetic Energy and ideas coming out of him, sometimes just, like, sparks flying in all directions. He was just absolutely, deliriously, madly in love with the film business and with making movies. Whitaker the kid in abrams is on display at bad robot, his santa monica production company. He says this quirky place is a grownup version of his childhood bedroom with toys, an art area, and a place for special effects. Here, about 90 employees churn out a constant stream of movies, tv shows, video games, and apps. Abrams stage manages it all. Hes kind of, like, all over the place. Is it difficult . Mcgrath i dont even try. It can give you a bit of a complex if. That you dont have enough hobbies in your life, but he. Whitaker youre. Youre not doing enough. Mcgrath no, no. And im doing plenty, by the way. But this is a whole other ballgame. You know, he. Abrams im right here, guys. Mcgrath i know. This is so weird. Abrams bill, its like sixth sense. Bill, katie. Whitaker but its good energy. Mcgrath no, its great energy, actually. Whitaker he sold his first screenplay in college. He went on to write or cowrite five more movies, including the blockbuster armageddon. He made several tv shows. The cult hit lost, about plane crash survivors on a mysterious island, won him two emmys. Youre going to be okay, do you understand me . Abrams cut. That was awesome whitaker after that, his rousing remakes of flagging franchises Mission Impossible and star trek grossed more than 1 billion worldwide and earned abrams the reputation as the remake king. He found himself in a financially lucrative but creative rut. He decided to move on from sequels. Then, fate in the form of a conversation between Steven Spielberg and star wars producer Kathy Kennedy changed his destiny. Spielberg and i just said, kathy, theres only one director that really should undertake this daunting, epic task, and thats j. J. Abrams. Whitaker his daunting task to justify disneys 4 billion investment, plus the estimated 200 million it cost to make the movie. Wall street would be disappointed with anything less than 1. 5 billion at the box office. Whats going on in his head right now . Spielberg oh, j. J. Is terrified. Theres a lot of pressure on j. J. To start paying disney back for, you know, the franchise they bought from. From george lucas. Abrams you just know that there will be people, no matter what you do, that will have issues with some aspect. You just know that there is some number that is being thrown out there that will not be hit. You just know. Whitaker fans snapped up more than 50 million in advance tickets. In hollywood, they started lining up outside the theater a week before opening. The force seems to be with abrams. Mcgrath hes got a long way to go, still, for what hes potentially able to do, in my opinion. Abrams thank you. Whitaker you think hes got another gear in his filmmaking . Mcgrath i hope so. You better. Were running out of sequels. Right, babe . Come on. Isnt. Thats enough what do you do after star wars . Whitaker whether the force Awakens Soars or disappoints, j. J. Abrams is ready for this allconsuming threeyear rocket ride to be over. Abrams i said to someone recently, its like ive had the greatest. In this movie, ive had the. The greatest roommate ever for too long. Like, its just time for him to move out. He just. He needs to get his own place, and i just need to figure out, you know, whats next. Whitaker the force awakens ended up soaring to record heights. It became the topgrossing film in u. S. Box Office History and, just seven and a half weeks after opening, blasted past the 2 billion mark worldwide. Cbs money watch update sponsored by lincoln financial. Youre in charge. 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Hes been nominated for an Academy Award in every one of the last five decades. As leslie stahl reported in december, at 82, Michael Caine can still make hollywood take notice of his acting, this time for his role in the movie youth. Leslie stahl youth is set in the swiss alps. Michael caine plays fred ballinger, a retired, celebrated composer and conductor who has turned his back on music. But he cant help finding it everywhere. cow lows it was a part written specifically for him. Michael caine it was the most surprising offer ive ever had in my life. I dont get offered many leads at the. Stahl at your age . laughter caine at 82, there arent too many. And i almost said, dont bother to send the script. Ill do it. Its okay. Its okay. Do you know who composed that piece that youre practicing . No, who . Caine me. My teacher makes me play it. He says its a Perfect Piece to start with. Caine yeah, hes right, its very simple. Its not only simple. Caine oh, really. Its also really beautiful. Caine yes, it. It is beautiful. I composed it while i still loved. Stahl would you say that freds in crisis in the movie . Caine hes more or less destroyed, as a matter of fact. But you dont know that. And he would never let you see that. Stahl we have so much sympathy for him. How. How did you do that . Caine i go back to situations in my life, and you can see it in my face. Stahl but sometimes, caine wasnt acting at all. In one scene, director Paolo Sorrentino decided to present caine and his costar Harvey Keitel with a surprise. Caine we had no idea. Were in a swimming pool. And one of the most beautiful girls youve ever seen comes up with absolutely nothing on and gets in the pool. And we just look in disbelief. And he didnt tell us because he wanted us to have a certain reaction. We just sat there like. Who is she . Harvey keitel god what do you mean, who is she . Miss universe. Stahl how do you think you did in this movie . Rate yourself. Caine secretly with myself, i regarded it as the best thing i ever did. It was the most difficult. And the criterion for that is i made it look the most easy. Stahl so in other words, youve improved . Caine i just try to play more and more difficult roles. Stahl so. So you want a greater challenge at the age of 82 than when you were alfie . Caine i need a challenge because i dont get the girl anymore. Stahl right. Caine all i get was grandma, you know. Stahl whats wrong with grandma . laughter caine nothing, you know, so long as shes pretty. Stahl theres a sense of the futures of these characters closing in on them, that age is shutting down their future. Did it, in any way, begin to infect you . Caine oh, no. But there was a point in the movie where im being examined by my doctor, he says, hows it feel to be old . And i said, i dont understand how i got here. And that affected me like hell. Because i was thinking, thats true of me. I dont understand how i got here. Stahl he was born Maurice Joseph micklewhite in 1933, the son of working class cockneys in the slums of south london, a lot of which have been torn down and rebuilt. Caine it was very, very tough. And it was full of razor gangs and all that. Is this the london road coming up, mitchell . Mitchell on the righthand side, yes. Caine yeah, turn right there, please. Oh, look. Now, theres an example. I spent my life in the Library Reading books to get away from this thats the library. Stahl this pile of rubble . Caine a pile of rubble. Stahl your library. Caine that is my library. I spent my entire time reading books and going to the cinema, just to escape. And they pulled my library down. Stahl you were really, really poor. Caine yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. But my father was a fish market porter. So i grew up on fish, because he used to steal one a day. I grew up on the very best fish that money could buy, because he only stole the good stuff. Stahl caine was determined not to be a fish porter like generations of micklewhites before him. He was going to be a movie star and make a lot of money. At 14, he joined a local acting club. Acting was considered sissy like. Caine it was, yeah. Stahl were you teased . Caine yeah. Oh, yeah, but i. You know, you didnt tease me for very long. laughs stahl why not . Caine because you. Yeah, that wouldnt go down very well. Stahl youd beat them up. Caine yeah. Stahl were you that tough . Caine yeah. Im not tough anymore, im 82. laughter stahl at 22, caine was struggling to find acting jobs. On the dole, he had a new wife and a baby, and left them both. This is a very traumatic time of your life, because you really. Caine oh, yes. Stahl you, basically, in effect, walked out. Caine yeah, well, i screwed up. Yeah, i screwed up on everything. Stahl you walked out. You walked out on the baby, you walked out on the wife. Caine everything. Everything, yeah. Stahl it wasnt till he was 30 that he got his first big break in the 1964 film zulu, where he played an upper class british officer. Caine oh, when you take command, old boy, youre on your own. The first lesson the general, my grandfather, ever taught me. The luck of it was that the director was an american, because no english director wouldve cast me as an officer, i promise you. Not one. Stahl because you were cockney . Caine because i was a cockney. Stahl the class system was that rigid. Caine it was that rigid, yeah. And it holds people back, you know. It really holds. Stahl but it makes you angry. Caine oh, me, i. You start snobbery with me, and thats one of the times you get into trouble. laughs stahl he helped trigger the breakdown of that class system with a series of roles he played as a cockney. Ive had a lovely time, alfie. Caine i always say, make a married woman laugh and youre halfway there with her. Stahl alfie was a shameless, impudent rogue, and audiences loved him. Caine nice, isnt it . Stahl starting in the so called swinging 60s, his characters personified the working class antihero. Caine courtney, i am going to cook you the best meal youve ever eaten. Caine with his irresistible charm, he played lovers, fighters, killers, spies, all with his trademark cockney swagger. Caine why the hell arent you here . Mister. Caine carnehan, former Gunnery Sergeant in her majestys forces. Stahl caines success got hollywoods attention. Soon, he was playing leads in american movies like the classic the man who would be king. Caine glenlivet, 12 years old. You have an educated taste in whisky. Caine ive an educated taste in whisky and women, waistcoats, and bills of fare. Though ive had few chances to exercise it lately because them that govern spend all their time making up new laws to stop men like you and me from getting anywhere, right . Stahl by 1987, he was one of the most bankable british actors in hollywood, living the life of a movie star in a Beverly Hills mansion. That same year, he won his first oscar for actor in a supporting role for woody Allens Hannah and her sisters. He played a man who was married to hannah, but had the hots for her sister. Did you ever read this one. . Elliot, dont. Caine lee, lee, lee. Im in love with you. Stahl talk about slime buckets, he was it. laughter and yet, we like you. Caine i dont think human beings are bad. Theyre weak, and thats what makes them bad. And so, i always exposed the weakness rather than the nastiness. But you got the nastiness, anyway. Stahl over the next couple of years, he made a few clunkers. Caine youre all the same complain, complain. Stahl he came to the harsh realization that his career was fading. Caine you dont retire from the movies; the movies retire you. There was a certain moment. I was about 61, 62, 63, or 64, and i got a script. And i sent it back to the producer saying, i dont want to do it. The parts too small. And he sent it back to me, he said, you shouldnt read the lover. You should read the father. Stahl so he reinvented himself as a father figure, and it paid off. At 67, caine won his second oscar for actor in a supporting role in the cider house rules. Caine good night, you princes of maine, you kings of new england. Stahl a few months later, he got the ultimate accolade when Queen Elizabeth knighted him sir Maurice Micklewhite not bad for a bloke from the slums of south london. Caine its the best award i ever had because you get the Academy Award, its about a performance. You get a knighthood, its about a life. Stahl was there a sense, after the knighthood, that you had totally arrived . Caine i knew i had arrived. This was proof for anybody who thought i hadnt. laughs stahl so i should be calling you sir michael. Caine you should be, but ive let you off. laughter stahl yes, let me off the hook. Christohper nolan hes one of the greats. Stahl where do you put him . Hes up there with who . Nolan i wouldnt put anybody above him. Stahl director Christopher Nolan has cast caine in his last six films, including the batman movies, where he plays alfred the butler. At 72, caine started the third act of his career, picking up a whole new generation of fans. Bats are nocturnal. Caine bats may be, but even for billionaire playboys, 3 00 is pushing it. Nolan its an incredible rapport with the audience that he has. And its to do with warmth and humor, as well as just basic, grounded humanity. Feels very real. He is very real. Stahl somebody said that a lot of your characters are way out there, and you put michael in there to be normal, to be the solid one. Nolan when you see michael in the scene, you do. Theres a sort of sigh of relief a little bit. Like, okay, im going to. Im going to have something i can understand here. Theres somebody else whos grounded, you know, the way the audience is. Stahl whats kept him grounded, he says, is his family. He and his second wife, shakira, have been married for 42 years. They now devote themselves to their grandchildren, and their daughter natasha. Caine by the way, here she comes. These are my. These are my two grandchildren with her. Hiya, guys, how you doing . Grandpa caine yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Great to see you. Lovely. Im the happiest grandfather in the world, i promise you. Stahl the kids are now the center of his life. He says hes like a father to them, so he and shakira are moving so they can live closer and see them more often. Caine i was watching cartoons on television, and a commercial came on for one of the batman series where i played the butler. And then, my grandson looked up at me and he said, do you know batman . I said, yes. He said, really . I said, yeah. I said, i know him very well. And he told all the boys at school. He said, my grandpa knows batman. Does your grandpa know batman . Okay, no. Mine does. laughter stahl caine says hes a happy man, made even happier by the talk that his role in youth might get him his fifth oscar nomination for actor in a leading role. And if he wins. Caine it would be one of the most important things in my life, you know . Itd be up there with a knighthood. Stahl . You would be. Caine id be the oldest person. Stahl . Person actress, actor to ever win such a thing. Caine i think it would be great for the academy to. To recognize old age. Stahl and all 82yearold men out there, right . Caine yeah, yeah, all those 82yearold men. Stahl Maurice Micklewhite, look at you. Caine yeah, i thank god every day. Stahl yeah, but youve worked for it. Caine yeah, i gave god a hand. This cbs sports update is brought to you by the lincoln motor company. At the world Golf Championship bridgestone invitational in akron, ohio, Dustin Johnson in his first appearance since winning the u. S. 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Michael fassbender and kate winslet were both nominated for oscars, not just because they are great actors but because they had very demanding roles in a very unusual movie that allowed them to show just how good they really are. And, as steve kroft noted this past february, that would not have happened without screenwriter aaron sorkin and director danny boyle. Steve jobs for a given clock rate, a power pc chip is twice as fast as a pentium two chip. Kroft it was by every measure a unique and ambitious project about the inner workings of a recently deceased genius. Someone who saw the future, and built it by breathing life into the personal computer. Defining how it would be used, and selling the idea to the american public. Jobs see how this reminds you of a friendly face, but the disk slot is a goofy grin . Its warm, and its playful, and it needs to say hello. Kroft unlike many hollywood films, steve jobs wasnt built around a star. It was built around a massive theatrical script from Academy Awardwinning screenwiter aaron sorkin, on the right, then placed in the hands of Academy Award winning director danny boyle, on the left. Danny boyle Everybody KnowsAaron Sorkins scripts. Theres a huge amount of lines. Theres a huge amount of interchange. You got to do a lot of learning to be able to get it up to pace. Kroft to begin with, there were more than 180 pages of dialogue, nearly twice the size of an average script. A drama in three acts that takes place backstage at three different product launches spanning 14 years in steve jobs life. It is two hours of talk. Intelligent, often humorous conversation and adversarial confrontation. Jobs you had three weeks. The universe was created in a third of that time. Andy hertzfeld well, someday youll have to tell us how you did it. Boyle can i just see you . Kroft it was the directors job to bring action and movement to the sorkin script, which read like the sound of steve jobs mind. Jobs everyone, everyone, everyone, everyone is waiting for the mac. Boyle its this this tormented mind and whats involved in the process, as he saw it, of changing the world, you know. And he did change the world back then. And and how do you do that . And its that fevered mind. Jobs were there . Hertzfeld i need more time. Jobs you cant have it. Hertzfeld twenty minutes kroft when it came to casting the lead, boyle thought there was only a tiny number of people who could pull off the complicated and demanding role. He was less interested in landing someone who looked like steve jobs than finding a committed actor determined to convince people he was steve jobs. Jobs two most significant events of the Twentieth Century the allies win the war and this. Kroft he decided on Michael Fassbender, the rising irish star with the german surname and a work ethic like the man he was picked to play. Boyle he has a very kind of jobsian approach, i think. Hes so focused and uncompromising about the way he does the work. Kroft is this the most complicated thing youve ever done . Michael fassbender its the hardest thing ive ever done. Kroft fassbender had been praised for his part in Quentin Tarantinos inglorious basterds. Lt. Archie hicox well if this is it old boy, i hope you dont mind if i go out speaking the kings. Kroft and he received an Academy Award nomination for his supporting role in 12 years a slave. His range runs from Macbeth Macbeth so foul and fair a day i have not seen. Kroft to magneto, the villain in the xmen action franchise. But steve jobs was going to be different. Fassbender it was like an action piece in words. laughs you know kroft no no exploding cars. Fassbender no. laughs kroft no sex. Fassbender nope. Kroft not ev any romance. laughs fassbender mmmm. laughter yeah. So, i was, like, perfect. This is gonna be great. laughter yeah, it was just it was such an unusual piece of writing. Boyle because it was such an enormous, it was like tackling a huge one of the big shakespeares, like a lear or fassbender yeah. Boyle a hamlet. Or, you know, its like a mountain to climb. Kroft kate winslet first heard that the steve jobs movie was casting not from her agent or producer scott rudin, but from her hair and make up person while shooting a film in australia. Kate winslet i just knew that it was going to be electric to be in a room with Michael Fassbender and danny boyle. And i honestly promise you, it absolutely was. Kroft winslet, who has one oscar already to go with six nominations, can have just about any role in hollywood she wants. Joanna hoffman were out of time. Theyve got to mop the floor. Kroft but no one seemed to be thinking about her for this one, the part of apple marketing whiz Joanna Hoffman, who was one of the few people who could handle steve jobs. You did want to do this movie. You sought out the role . Winslet i i offered my offered my services and let it be known that should they be interested in casting completely against type and considering the blonde english woman to play the darkhaired polish armenian, laughs id be delighted. Kroft with some wit and an iphone, she managed to get their attention. Winslet i gave them a little bit of a nudge. And i i put a darkhaired wig on myself and some glasses and made myself look as much like the real Joanna Hoffman as i possibly could. And i took a selfie and sent it to scott rudin, and it seemed to do the trick. And danny boyle came to australia and we had a meeting. And he asked me to play the role. Kroft by the time kate winslet arrived in San Francisco to begin shooting, she and the rest of the cast had read the script and realized they were facing a huge challenge a fast paced drama that unfolds in hallways, on staircases and in dressing rooms. Winslet, whos character was a composite of the strong women in jobs life, found it all a bit terrifying. Kroft why terrifying . Winslet terrifying because its 187page script. And it flows. Theres a rhythm to it. Theres a pace to it that has to feel entirely accidental and fluid. And the only way to really honor that and respect those words is to know them and to not forget them. Thats the hardest part. Hoffman start 15 minutes late so avie can recompile. Just at least give us a fighting chance. Jobs jesus christ, how many times have we had this conversation . Hoffman fine jobs were not starting late ever, were not ever starting late. Winslet because if you forget even one word, one line, or you pause for just too long while sort of trying to remember what comes next, the whole thing unravels. Kroft danny boyle, who spent years directing at the Royal Court Theatre in london, knew exactly what his actors were up against and got the studio to agree to a costly six weeks of rehearsal. The cast would learn one act at a time, then film it in sequence. Boyle i couldnt see any other way that the actors would be able to control this beast, this huge beast of this extraordinary dialogue that hed written as a way into this mans mind. And i thought the only way the actors can get on top of it and own it, which is the key, i think, is by breaking it down and letting us rehearse. Winslet we rehearsed the first scene well, act, first scene. And we got it as we got it down. And then we went and filmed it. And then filming would stop, and we would go back and we would shoot we would rehearse the second part. And then we would go in and shoot that. And then filming would stop again. And so theres this crew on hiatus while we would go off and rehearse again for another 12 days. And then wed go back in and shoot. So by the time we got onto the set, we were already on performance number 50, because we had been doing it for two weeks straight. Kroft fassbender, who had by far the most lines, saw steve jobs as a great man and a flawed human being. A visionary, and a vainglorious control freak. Jobs what size shirt do you wear . Man me . Jobs does anyone know what size shirt he wears . Does anyone know what size shirt i wear . Hoffman does anyone know where the closest psychiatrist is . Jobs the disk fits in your pocket. Hoffman does it have to be a white shirt, is blue ok . Jobs no. The mac is beige, im beige. The disk is blue. The shirt has to be white. Kroft a brilliant motivator and recruiter of talent. Jobs that was cool kroft who could be an unreasonable boss, an indifferent father and an unreliable friend. Steve wozniak you know when people used to ask me what the difference was between me and steve jobs, i would say steve was the big picture guy and i liked the solid work bench. When people ask me what the difference is now, i say steves an bleep . Kroft hes not a very sympathetic character. Fassbender you say that. laughs i yeah, i dont i find him to be. I think, you know, when you have such strong convictions and a lack of patience with that goes with it, and a sharp tongue and, you know elements of cruelty perhaps, you know, its it can come across as as maybe a bit harsh for people to take onboard. I think he was an extraordinary person. And he changed the way we lived our lives. I never looked at him or approached him as an unsavory character. Kroft unpleasant . Unsociable . Fassbender yeah, unsociable, i would say. Yeah. You know i suppose, approaching it as actor, unpleasant isnt really something that i want to set out to play, you know. I cant really play unpleasant. But if somebody said, play somebody whos got a lack of patience, whos very you know, got a very strong vision is unrelenting in that vision, you know, has a problem perhaps with emotional connection, now im going somewhere. Now i can start putting together something. Kroft fassbender believes jobs antisocal tendencies may have been a convenient way of putting distance between himself and other people, a way of managing their judgements and expectations of him. Hertzfeld why do you want people to dislike you . Jobs i dont want people to dislike me. Im indifferent to whether they dislike me. Kroft all of this made little difference to jobs widow who was unhappy with her husbands portrayal. Apple refused to cooperate with the project. C. E. O. Tim cook called it opportunistic. For the most part, the cast and danny boyle shrugged it off. Boyle his importance to our world now is such that you cant ignore him. You have to write as much right about these guys. And not just him, there are many, many ot other figures that are turning the world around, literally overnight. So for that reason, it felt like it was important to tell a story. There is a steve that apple would like to actually present to the public. They have a character, steve, and they want to keep that story going. And its very important that writers challenge that occasionally and not just trust their Parent Companies to tell them. Kroft danny boyle has always had an aversion to that kind of power. A working class guy with no discernible ego, he joined the ranks of britains top directors after winning an Academy Award for slumdog millionaire, and he became a National Hero for directing the elaborate Opening Ceremony for the 2012 olympics in london. Then he became very famous for turning down a knighthood from the court of Queen Elizabeth. Kroft you were offered a knighthood. Boyle yes, i was. But that, its not really the its not my cup of tea, really. I feel very, i d i feel very fake walking ar i find it difficult enough being called mr. Boyle, which as i age im increasingly called. laughter i find that hard enough, anyway. So, any anything else, i i wouldnt be comfortable with. Kroft did you know this was in the works . Did you know this was coming . Or did your name just appear on this list . Boyle no, no. You get a phone call. laughter kroft and you just told em flat out. Boyle yeah. And i and you get another phone call to see if youd change your mind. laughter kroft no regrets. Boyle n well no, no. Not not not not at all, no. laughs absolutely not. Kroft danny boyle and the cast share some disappointment that more people didnt see steve jobs, but they all say its getting harder and harder to get people out of their houses and away from their t. V. S, premium cable and on demand services. 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