Tonight, stephen welcomes anthony scaramucci, bob odenkirk and musical guest Liam Gallagher, featuring jon batiste and stay human. And now, live on tape from the ed sullivan theater in new york city, its Stephen Colbert cheers and applause how are ya cheers and applause cheers and applause thank you, joe thank you so much lewis please have a seat. Thanks so much. Welcome to the late show, everybody. Im your host Stephen Colbert. piano riff its good to be with you. Thank you so much for being here. Boy, what a terrible weekend. Yeah. White supremacists from around the country carrying shields, clubs, body armor, and automatic weaponry descended on charlottesville, virginia to hold the rally was a clear attempt to spark violence, and it did. One of these White Supremacists drove a car into a crowd of counterprotesters killing one young woman, heather heyer, and injuring 19 more. In addition, two Virginia State troopers, who were monitoring the rally from the air, were killed when their helicopter crashed. Our hearts go out to the victims and their families. It is difficult how heartbreaking it is to see this happening in our country. Hits o hard to express nazis are bad. cheers and applause the k. K. K. . Not a fan cheers and applause that wasnt hard. That was easy. I enjoyed saying it. laughter but on saturday, when the nation looked to our president to rebuke these hate groups, what he said was this we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides, on many sides. Stephen many sides . audience reacts mr. President , this is terrorism, not your order at k. F. C. laughter id like the ten piece bucket with potato wedges, fries, mashed you know what . Many sides. Many sides. Coleslaw. cheers and applause coleslaw. piano riff how can you possibly say you condemn this in the strongest possible terms when you dont even name the groups responsible or say what they did . I strongly condemn youknow who, about youknowwhat, and arent we all nazis if you think about it . laughter ive seen angrier yelp reviews and they werent afraid to use the word nazi when describing how long their jalapeno poppers took. Heres the problem. This is the nut of whats most disturbing about this is that the president came out after a tragedy and, after he made his statement, reasonable people could not tell if was condemning the nazis. And its not like trump is a shrinking violet. Hes known for criticizing things. If only the president was as mad about neonazis murdering people in the streets as hes been about hillary clinton, the new york times,nn, joe scarborough, kristen stewart, the cast of hamilton, diet coke, nordstroms not selling his daughters clothes, arnold schwarzenegger, mayor of london sadiq khan, me, the state of new hampshire, gold star families, Penn Jillettes las vegas show, the movie django unchained, meryl streep, and lady ghostbusters. laughter cheers and applause i dont understand. I just dont understand and while he wouldnt name the perpetrators, trump was very quick to say whos not to blame. Its been going on for a long time in our country. Not donald trump, not barack obama. Its been going on for a long, long time. Stephen yeah, obama and i both share some responsibility here, i mean, i embraced alt right racists, obama was black, we both contributed to the problem in our own way. Well, after the president blew the easiest condemnation of all time, trump took criticism from many sides, many sides. laughter applause piano riff many sides, i, i cheers and applause but he did get praise from one group neonazis. One prominent white power website wrote, trump comments were good. Careful, guys. He says he loves you now, but one day hes going to leave you for younger nazis. cheers and applause piano riff thank you, jon. Thank you. Jon he might come around stephen of course, nazis arent the only ones praising donald trump. So was the klan. Like former k. K. K. Grand wizard and current taxidermy lizard, david duke. laughter seen here being racially superior. laughter thank you, jon. cheers and applause duke was at hateapalooza, and are ingoe ing todetermo ed t fulfill the promises of donald trump, and thats what we y lieved itha tot swete vphwh so the klan voteeddr for donald trump. Thats right. I remember they wore those special make America Great again hats. laughter cheers and applause hat fans. I certainly hope were applauding fator hs. laughter faced with this p. R. Clustermunch, on sunday, the white house released this the okay. Finally, someone willing to stand up, but we dont know who that person was because it was an unidentified white house spokesperson. laughter why unidentified . Look, of course, we dont support the nazis or the k. K. K. . laughter i could get in trouble. laughter and heres the thing. Some people didnt need their antinazi statements explained later. Like the mayor of charlottesville, who called the rally a cowardly parade of hatred, bigotry, racism, and intolerance. Which coincidentally was also the theme of Steve Bannons senior prom. laughter applause under the sea. Jon under the sea. cheers and applause piano riff stephen also, you might recall that, on friday, the White Supremacists held a to havewielding march only holding tiki torches. How lame. Thats like villagers coming after frankenstein holding scented candles. Ugh, sandalwood vanilla bad laughter and the company that makes tiki torches released a statement saying, quote tiki brand is not associated in any way with laughter cheers and applause applause yes, give it up give it up i gotsay,ttets pr ity decoration comes out swinging stronger against nazis than the president. piano riff your move, lawn flamingos. laughter so, faced with getting morally dunked on by pretty much everybody, today, they dug a trench, lowered the bar into it, and the president slithered over it, and somehow found the courage to read a statement clearly written by somebody else racism is evil and those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs. Including the k. K. K. , neonazis, White Supremacists and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as americans. Stephen was that so hard . Why did that take two days . How do you feel about nazis . Give me 48 hours to get back to you. laughter and trump tried to heal a news cycle by reminding us what we all have in common. We all salute the same great flag. Stephen no, we dont. laughter ive seen their flags. They cant agree on which one to salute. laughter cheers and applause okay . Dont mix us up. piano riff he didnt answer any questions there, but later he was pressed on the issue by Cnns Jim Acosta audience reacts stephen see how fast you condemned cnn, right off the top of your head with no script. Next time, like that, but with nazis. cheers and applause thats simple. He can do it. Hes very good at it. cheers and applause and heres another thing i dont like about nazis. A lot of these nazis showed up to the rally wearing their uniform of khakis and white polo shirts. Because nothing strikes more fear in the hearts of your enemies than cosplaying as the assistant manager of a pool supply company. laughter piano riff look, look, nazis, you dont get turn khakis and white polo shirts into the official uniform of racism. Whats going to happen to guys who actually dress like that . People like me and jake from statfarme do i have to throw out all my polo shirts now . Well, two can play at that game. If you get to ruin khakis and polo shirts, i say red baseball caps mean youre an bleep . cheers and applause got a great show for you tonight. Ill sit down with the mooch stick around playing vo whenever a craving hits, vo jacks got your back. Jack somebody craving my smoky jack burger . Vo the smoky jack burger combo for 4. 99. Vo hickorysmoked bacon, smoked cheddar cheese, vo all on an artisan poppyseed bun. Vo plus fries and a refreshing drink. Vo all for just 4. 99. N thanks, jack jack youre welcome. Vo the new smoky jack burger combo for just 4. 99. nd playing cheers and applause Stephen Jon Batiste and stay human, everybody i love it thats fantastic cheers and applause thank you, jon. Please, have a seat, everybody ladies and gentlemen, my first guest is the shortest in white house history. Please welcome anthony scaramucci. cheers and applause band playing anthony, come on out audience booing ill pretend those mooches and not boos, stephen. Stephen well find out later. laughter thanks for being here. Great to be here. Stephen is it . I took a list of all your comedy writers, my kill list, theyre in the back, i wrote them all down. Stephen youre comeedcally threatening to kill people who work for me . Anymor ive le narned that. laughter stephen listen, i just want to start crosstalk no, you dont get to stop my show. I stop my show. piano riff cheers and applause heres the thing, i want you to know just for the record, this is on thed,isre rightow. Thank you. Stephen thats a microphone youre wearing right now. Okay. So i said no gotcha questions, but im going to lead with one. Go ahead. laughter wont be the first one. Stephen nazis, good or bad . Super bad, we know that, super bad. Stephen why do you think the president of the United States who you called the most media savvy person of our times, would shank a softball like that so hard when he should have just come out there and condemned the people who were there to start violence . Well, i think theres a couple of issues there. He said the all sides thing. Many sides. He should have been way harsher on that. I said that. Stephen how . He should have condemned white sprem simple and White Supremacy and neonazis. I dont want to blame or point fingers at the president. Stephen hes responsible cheers and applause i think, listen, it was late. Im not going to say it wasnt, but he did go to the white house today d make a statement which you just said, it was very declarative against it. Stephen the president prepared remarks saturday and today. Today he stuck to the script. Saturday, he went offscript with his many sides, many sides, aves an adlib in the moment. Which one do you think he meant . The one written down or the one he just comes up in the moment. It has been super rough on me anhie bd hcompasutonate person. I audience reacts thats my opinion. Stephen dont boo him for being the messenger. What is the evidence of that . Well, i mean, listen, its coo super tough job. He made a step to give up what was a luxurious lifestyle stephen who cares . Really . Were supposed to feel bad for a guy who gave up his billionaire lifestyle to be the most powerful person in the world . It was touch and go, though. Stephen what was touch and go . Well, i think when he started his campaign, it was unclear whether he was going to win. Stephen thats for everybody, everybody was unclear. I understand. Stephen, its a huge sacrifice to do with stuff. You may not agree. Stephen one thing you dont get to do is complain about it. I havent heard him complain about it. Stephen he has. He said, its a very hard job. He said, i could have had my previous lifestyle but thats him wearing his heart on his sleeve, though, thats him expressing himself. Thats his i think president i bowl, its a difficult job. Stephen sure. I think president bush said the same thing. Its not like its not a difficult job. Stephen getting back being the Communications Director is a difficult job. laughter stephen my original question was youre a guyehoa top coat. Ive seen him doing that, yeah. Stephen saying condemning White Supremacists and neonazis is a one inch putt. Why do you think he choked . Its a counterin tivtuehing media. The media expects him to do something, he sometimes does the exact opposite. Stephen youre saying he does some of that stephen to do the m . Posite of what was expected of th e campaign. Stephen hes now the president. I understand, but mes also going to see his base, hes flown to ohio andther places. Stephen youre saying his base is nazis . Of course not. Lets be fair to him today, he condemned the nazis today. Does he order his spine on amazon prime . Why did it take so long . cheers and applause piano riff thats a good line, and i said yesterday that he should have been tougher on it. The problem is im probably the only person that would come from the Trump Administration or formerly from the Trump Administration, i dont know if he will come and sit here and answer the question but only he can answer the question. And maintain hes got to bei esyid y taoughtt stuff if he wants his legislative agenda to pass. He has toode mrateirective, he o appeal to more independents and moderates who possibly voted for him to help him ascend to the presidency. Stephen whats it like in the white house . Small. Stephen i have been in the building. Yeah. Stephen what i mean is, what is it like . From the outside, it looks like a dumpster fire. laughter what is it like cheers and applause you have rumors of infighting and there is chaos in there. What was it like for the ten days you were in there . Did you get a sense of the chaos . Well, listen, i mean, its a tough place. There was a lot o,f the front ss backstabbing, i think you said that two weeks ago. I have a tendency to be very open and honest with people. What happens is people dont do that. They go behind each others backs, leak things to the press and say nasty things to each other to destabilize them or to influence the president s judgment of them, so, whatever you think about me, i was pretty open about how i felt about people laughter very open stephen very open. And i tell you the way a good culture works, ive run two reasonably successful of organizations, you have to have some level of decor and it didnt go that way. Stephen this is you holding your thumbs in your belt like a gun slinger, and this is reince priebus. Yeah. Stephen what is going on . Were you brought in just to get rid of him . I dont want to say it that way is that and sean spicer . I dont want to say it that way. Stephen would you say it was part of your job . I would say stephen say itrlike the mooch. Well, all right, so stephen give me some mooch. So the mooch of long island would say theres no love lost there. Look at the picture. Stephen at caught by a wall street journal photographer, which was a great interview with the wall street journal. The weird thing about my relationship with reince is we were pretty good friends when i was a political donor writing checks to the r. N. C. But once i was about to enter the administration, for whatever reason, it was a little more adversarial. E stephen you thought he was heons gone, right . Whos leaking now . Is it steve bannon . Well, ive said that. Stephen say it now. Listen, i have been pretty open about that. Stephen is steve bannon a leaker . He got caught on tape saying that. Stephen is he going to be gone in a week . If it was up to me he would be gone but its not up to me. Stephen you said hes trying to suck bleep . cheers and applause are you allowed to say that . Stephen they said it was cool. They said i could say it tonight. Mom, im sorry i said that. Although he autographed a cartoon for you so im bringing that home. Stephen heres the deal. Are you telling yoelling us thau never even tried . laughter cheers and applause as an adult male it does not pass the smell test. Eddy murphy said if you could do that he would never leave the house. No, im not capable of doing that. Stephen no one said he succeeded. No, hes not capable of it either. Maybe hes doing hot yoga in there. Stephen well be back with more anthony scaramucci. Stick around. Big news from advil, advil liquigels minis. Our first concentrated pill that rushes powerful relief. 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He said they want to fulfill the promises of donald trump, that is why they, the klan, voted for donald trump. Mmhmm. Stephen are there of White Supremacy in the white house now. No. Stephen is steve bannon a white supremacistist . I dont think. Ive never asked him. What i dont like is the toleration of it. Its something that should be completely and totally intolerated. cheers and applause stephen okay. O for me, you have to understand most people in this audience and perhaps your family and definitely my family has experienced some level of discrimination, so i find it disgusting and reprehensible and i will rnceneou life. Stephen do you feel burned by your experience at the white house. No, no, no. Stephen you were there ten days, extremely loyal to the president , even at this point after you were shown the door, do you feel burned or backstabbed. Not at all. Stephen really . Well, let me put it this way, when you take a job like that, stephe you know your Expiration Date was coming. I didnt think i was going to last too long but i thought i would last longer than a carton of milk. Stephen or a bag of rawsh b. Ri cooking them the day i got fired, totally fine, right . laughter my point is you take the job and recognize youre serving at the behest of the president of the leave states and if hesn d red with honor. I made a lot of mistakes, i tried to own opinion to those mistakes. Let me tell you, you can feel this from me, im an honest person. Stephen wait a second, dont use me as a character witness for you. I dont know. I met you five minutes ago. I wont sign a loan for him. Im good with the loans. Stephen the mooch always pays his debt. People that know me know im a straightup person. Stephen what would you do differently if you could go back. I really thought about that and i would say absolutely nothing and i will tell you why because what you dont want to do is you dont want to morph or change yourself, you just want to be yourself, and if the good lord put you in a direction or a stream where its going the right way, great things will happen. If it doesnt happen, im cool with it. This guy has been hitting me three straight weeks and its fine. At the end of the day, you have to accept your fate, do it without bitterness and stay humble. Stephen thank you for being here. Its a great honor. Stephen would you recommend to other exmembers of the Trump Administration to come on the show . Was it a nice enogh experience . I think it would be great. I recommend the president come. cheers and applause stephen i understand you have something for me. I have gifts for stephen, okay . Stephen can we get a shot of this . Let the man explain. piano riff cheers and applause let the man explain. 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During the cadillac made to move 2017 clearance event, current nongm owners and lessees get this lowmileage lease on this cadillac ct6 from around 529 per month. cheers and applause band playing stephen welcome back, everybody ladies and gentlemen, my next guest is a writer and actor who is currently emmy nominated for his starring role in Better Call Saul. Better get ready to be famous albuquerque i can make you a tv star for a price you can afford. Call me, saul goodman, the world needs to know about you and your business call me now, now cheers and applause guy at the station said hes never seen so many star webs in a row. Its never been done. Saul goodman. Yeah, its like its all good, man. The guy has a lot of energy. Yeah. Its just a name. Stephen please welcome bob odenkirk cheers and applause band playing stephen hey. cheers and applause nice to see you again. Saul goodman, who, you know, you obviously played for many years. Yes. Stephen fasttalking hes a hustler. Yes, he is. Hes the opposite of me. Somebody once asked me, if i saw saul goodman in a room would i want to hang out with him . I said, no way. I wouldnt go near that guy. Stephen would you be able to identify saul goodman . Oh, yeah, his hands would be moving and he would have a lot of energy and hed spin everything, you know, a certain way. You know, that kind of activity. I dont know if youve ever seen it. laughter stephen i think i just talked to him for 20 minutes, actually. cheers and applause saul goodman, thats not the first lawyer youve played, i understand. When i was a little kid well, a younger kid i did pretend to be a lawyer once, yes. Stephen how old . 15. Stephen 15 . Yes, my friend pete had used the gas station as a short cut, and stephen to get around traffic or something . Yes, and he had to go to court. A policeman saw that. So i showed up, and i had cards and i wore a suit and i said, im his lawyer, handed out the cards. Stephen you said bob odenkirk, lawyer . I said bob odenkirk, lawyer, and then they told me to sit down and shut up. And then my friend called the judge your highness. laughter he did not get off with it. Stephen what was your end game . What were you hoping to make en friends expense. This is what comedy is. This is why we do it. Stephen okay. So you were literally just i was just having a laugh, and he was in pain. laughter stephen now, i first got to know you in second city in chicago. I didnt know you back then. Yes. Stephen so i know you as a comedian, you know. Yeah. Stephen i missed your show will show. Now youre mr. Drama. Im very serious. Stephen youre very serious. applause have you, like youre, like, a renowned dramatic actor. No, really, you are. You get nominated three times for doing drama. You are a renowned dramatic actor. Do you have a different process . I learned a few things. I feel like drama is harder than comedy. With comedy you have jokes and if you feel good about the jokes and did them in a room with friends and got a laugh, you feel confident you got a laugh. Drama, the rich story, written by the head writers of Better Call Saul and people from breaking bad, you know, its a very rich, layered story. You get in the middle of a season of that kind of story and youre just hoping the audience can follow where its all going, and it sort of resonates with them the way youre playing it. So im always amazed. I feel very lost in the middle of doing that job, compared to comedy. Also, i learned, in drama, its not good to kind of give advice to your other actors, where, in coldy, people are more, like, hey, ive got a line for you and if its funny, the person is, thank you, awesome i was doing fargo with a great actor and good friend martin freeman, and we had a scene together and i was like, oh, i have an idea for him. Martin, you know what . Maybe your character is like a little envious of me. I mean, secretly. And thats why hes resentful, and he just looks at me. He goes, never tell me how laughter stephen with that accent. I loved it so much. It killed me. laughter stephen congratulations on your emmy nomination. Thanks. Bg deal applause its an honor to be nominated in such an Amazing Group of actors. Stephen and it seems like youre really gunning for the win hard this year . Ean,teph . Im just going the regular interviews. But thats not weird. Stephen well some people are saying that, to ensure victory, your Emmy Campaign has been acting a little unethically. What . Thats crazy who is some people . Id like to have names. Stephen well, for example, me and my staff. In fact, we obtained a videotape of your son. My son . You mean bob odenkirk, jr. . Stephen yeah. He is a highquality boy. Stephen well the video shows him taking a me shouldnt have. Ng hee you know what . Lets just watch it. Yeah, i would like to see this, yes let me see it stephen im . Hey comrades all right how you doing . Good to see ya thanks for coming by the odenkirk tower. Im bobby im my daddys Emmy Campaign strategist. Hes a good man, my bad. Oh, there he is gotta kiss the picture now, were here to talk about what you can do for me to help my daddy win at the emmys. Maybe we could do a little collusion here, maybe a few major crimes, if you dont mind. laughter first off, you guys got any dirt on my daddys emmy competition . Emmys . Why you talk to us about this . Have yourself ane or onerkdei balls in this building right now at this point. Tell me you dont have some dirt on this guy, kevin spacey, huh . He hasnt deleted any emlsai g . We were told this would be about the russian adoption. Okay, adoption hey, how about an odenkirk pork chop . Theyre the number one pork chop in this room right now ive got some very nice boys who i would like adopted to russia. Howhe ab fellow . Naoume ist t milosh, i think. Oh, this is us they reinvented the family drama they reinvented the family dwra ma, there you go take the boysics take them back to russia, give em a little bit of love, give em a little bit of pride, some confidence, make them sense of selfworth so they dont try to win the love of a father by meeting a bunch of dirty russian mobsters in a broken down motel room. You are making me uncomfortable. Please stop. cheers and applause stephen bob, that footage is incredibly damning and i thinkn e mor nfake hashtag lying hashtag sad hashtag odenkirks base growing everyday stephen all right, i apologize. Thank you. Stephen thats on me. You owe me that. Stephen good luck at the emmys. Thank you. Stephen bob odenkirk, everybody back with a performance by Liam Gallagher cheers and applause band playing keep your hair strong against hot styling tools. With pantene 3 minute miracle daily conditioner. A super concentrated prov formula makes hair stronger in just 3 minutes. So its smoother every day. 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Ladies and gentlemen, Liam Gallagher. cheers and applause in my defense all my intentions were good and heaven holds a place somewhere for the misunderstood you know id give you blood if itd be enough devils on the day i was born my eporstce n its hard to find a sunset in the eye of a storm but i am a dreamer by design this behind fha ill be the first to say ive made my own mistakes for what its wwno korth its just the word and words betray sometimes we lose our way for what its worth behind the lens is a poison picture you paint and lets not pretend you were ever searching for saints cause ive been crucified for just being alive somewhere in the crossfire of eems that i forgot just what i was fighting for but underneath my skin theres a fire within still burning for what its worth im sorry for the hurt ill be the first to say ive made my own mistakes for what its worth i know its just the word and words betray sometimes we lose our way for what its worth the first bird to fly gets all the arrows lets leave the past behind with all our sorrows ill build a bridge between us and ill swallow my pre for what its worth im sorry for the hurt ill be the first to say ive made my own mistakes for what its worth i know its just the word and words betray sometimes we lose our way for what its worth cheers and applause thank you stephen Liam Gallagher, everybody well be right back cheers and applause cheers and applause ano riff stephen thats it for the late show. Tune in tomorrow when my gue si will be daniel craig, tiffany haddish, and musical guest blackberry smoke. Now stick around for james corden and his guests Billy Eichner and riley keough. Good night captioning sponsored by cbs captioned by Media Access Group at wgbh access. Wgbh. Org are you ready yall to have some fun t wob the love tonight where it is you come from itll be all right its the late, late show [cheers and applause]