Transcripts For KQEH Tavis Smiley 20170731

As part of our road to health series, were welcome to please the sheriff from st. Charles perish from louisiana and fight crime investing kids which helps prevent children from going down the wrong path. And ending up in jail. Sheriff, good to have you on this program. Thank you. Tell me about the program. Fight crime invest in kids is a Nonprofit National organization. Its a Child Organization of the invest in counsel for a better america which has been formed by prominent military, Law Enforcement, coaches, Business People and it doesnt seek government money. What it does, it highlights Government Programs that truly work to prevent crime and reach out to Young Children and kids at an early level so that we can get them upstream and prevent crime with them and help them be better citizens and better lives. What kids are we talking about . We hear at risk children. Im not sure these day whats that means. What kind of kids are we talking about . You and i probably had great parents who did a great job with us. We were forever indebted to. There are some that dont have the quality parents that the rest of us did. So we try to reach out and find those and fight crime invest in kids the programs that it urges congress to support and provide the funding for helps to try and reach the kids. Those that have parents that may not be best parents that might not understand the difference between, you know, good discipline and abuse. And we find that a lot. And so some of the early mentoring programs, the Early Childhood programs can reach the parents and really teach them and help them to practice the skills that parents like you and i had that can help them become successful adults and crime free. Do i take from your answer that you think but you have to Research Data that points to the fact that the majority of this is a parental problem . I can tell you from 35 years in Law Enforcement as a prosecutor and a sheriff that if you show me a bad kid, more often than not i can show you parents who didnt really do their job or werent able to do their job. So, yeah, parenting is a key factor in what in the success of adult a young adult. I say this not to demean or cast aspersion on the fine work that you do. But how do you respond to the persons who say that more often than not Law Enforcement is the problem . That its funny to look at tavis talking to a Law Enforcement executive, talking about how to discipline our kids when youre the ones that mistreat the kids in the streets across the country . First off, nauk so much for allowing me to come in here and highlight what is truly positive work being done by Law Enforcement. You know, the bad situations, the bad incidents, they always make the headline news. We know. That but there is so much good being done by Law Enforcement agencies, especially the 3,088 sheriffs that i have the honor of representing as National President , there are a lot of programs. Were lektelected about it publ. They answer to mayors and city councils. Sheriffs of america are overwhelmingly lekted. We take that accountability to the public very seriously. I think youll find if you go around and look at the Sheriffs Office like ive done, officers around the country, there are so many Youth Programs that they work in, that they implement, things that we need to do to get young kids as theyre growing up with sheriffs deputies, and with Police Officers so that these relationships are established at an early age. I like to use the phrase that we cant grow oak trees without first planting acorns. And i think youll find that some of the programs invest in crime does the Early Childhood Intervention Programs with work with parents. Kids camps which many sheriffs and state Sheriffs Association dozen in the summer. One of the corner stone of my program is they put kids with sheriffs. A perish of 55 that, is a county. I know youre from gulfport. I know the system down there. And so, you know, 55,000 people and over the last 20 years we put 2,000 teenagers through our annual sheriffs camp in kiln, mississippi, and if you think about that, you know, we have 2,000 kids. Its a microcosm of what hope can be done nationwide. We look to promote programs like this to urge congress to reauthorize the Early Childhood Intervention Program which is up by september 2 20 017 stha statistics show they work. They minimize the chance that theyre getting into activities and statistics show it. They are statistically shown to work and cut crime. This is called road to health. This is clearly about the health of our children which is about the health of our nation. There are a number of things in the trump budget on the chopping block including maybe this network, pbs, and public radio. Were not a fan. Hes not a faven our work. So maybe the answer is because you guys are Law Enforcement, the president seems to love Law Enforcement. Maybe youre okay. But what sense are you getting about whether a program like that to your own admission, by your own admission whether statistics show it works. What sense are you getting whether or not its on the chopping block . So many programs like this are on the chopping block in this budget . Well, the programs that fight crime, invest in kids endorses including the Early Childhood Intervention Programs. Theyre bipartisan. They have traditionally received bipartisan support and so the whole thing about this we try to keep it being bipartisan. Sure. And not let it get into the political area. These are problems that work. You dont often hear sheriffs saying lets talk about an Early Childhood program which doesnt, thank god it doesnt involve arresting people or crime or involve drug overdoses, things like that. Its things question do upstream that make our jobs easier and make communities safer. So we hope to keep these things into the bipartisan area which they have been thus far. And so we hope democrats and republicans alike and the president supports the reauthorization of these Early Childhood Intervention Programs in september. How much of this has to do with fear . And i mean fear on the part of cops, sheriffs, Law Enforcement, and fear on the part of fellow citizens because i can show a number of communities across this country, you know this better than i do, where the community is on high alert so often because they are afraid of Law Enforcement. I can show you places like the south side of chicago. West side where the data points out that the police are scared do go into those neighborhoods. You have a fear problem here whether stenz are scaredst cops, the cops are scared of the citizens and obviously the children are caught in the middle of. This what say you about that reality of fear on both sides of the equation . Theres no doubt that in a lot of the major urban senters in the country that does exist. And when you see some of the incidents that had v. Been highlighted and on the topst news so often, it creates that fear. We have issues. The Police Department right now, 600 officers down. A lot of the major cities, the big problem is recruiting new Police Officers. Because there are a lot of young people who want to go into Law Enforcement that go do i really want to get into those situations where there is so much hostility . So its causing a problem for everybody. We have less Police Officers in those communities are not served well and not as protected well as they should be. But i can till, come to a lot of the sheriffs and the more outside of the urban centers sheriffs who are elected, we got to satisfy this public, those voters come election time. I think youll come and find there might not be so much conflict in a lot of areas around the country. The urban centers do get those and some crime issues in new orleans also right now. Were hopefully working on. Ill put you on the spot a quick second. Imagine youre looking out instead of a stage, youre looking at a big audience of young people. Children of color specifically. What is your best pitch to them for why they should consider a career in Law Enforcement . Given what many of them think about Law Enforcement . I would tell them that this is an honorable profession and that if you truly want to do good for your communities this is the place where it can really be done. There is no doubt that the overwhelming, i mean completely overwhelming numbers of Law Enforcement officers are good and dedicated men and women and really are there because its a calling. And they want to serve their communities. They want to make their communities better. So overlook the high profile incidences. Come in. See what its about. Talk to a Law Enforcement officer. Talk to a sheriffs deputy. Find out what drives them. I think well find that well see some of those that will do it. We encourage that. There is Nothing Better than that being tibl get a more Diverse Workforce around the country in both sheriffs and Police Departments around the country. But give it a try. Dont just listen to what you see in the news. Come in and see for yourself and talk to good Law Enforcement officers and find out what gratification they get from the job. And there is a lot of gratification. You can make it in hollywood. I was like who he is looking at . Im imagining that audience. Like i said. I love that you played your character. You played it well. Very nicely done, sir. Thank you. Give me some sense of whether or not in your interplay with these young people in the work that you do, this organization, whether or not you sense a greater openness on the parts of young girls, young boys, about the same . Just trying to get a sense of how you interact with these audiences and whether or not you pick up on any differences in these groups. Well, im not sure i understand. In addition to what we talked about summer camps, i believe, and i say girls and boys in the camps. A cam subpoena a boys camp. The boy scout facility we have, we would love to find one for the girls. I believe in putting sheriffs deputies throughout in any programs. I got a list id like to get into. That puts kids with Law Enforcement officers to where they get to know and get to know what theyre all about, like this camp. Its all only sheriffs deputies who supervise the kids in this camp. 2,000 kids. We had several of them become sheriffs deputies in our parish. This is nothing that ive got a pat enlt on. I think weve done it and a lot of Law Enforcement agencies are really doing it. And so its an opportunity that we have to see. And cultivate. And, again, get those acorns to become oak trees. I appreciate your work. Good to to you have on the program, sheriff. Thank you for letting me do it. For those that saw his name on the bottom of the screen, it is champagne. That is not how he pronounces his name. I got that right being right . Yes. You cant pronounce champagne . Anyway. Thats it, man. Good having you on. I have to make room for this other guy. John bawl dejoria, John Paul Mitchell is the guy with the ponytail. Hes here in just a second. Stay with us. His motto is success unshared is failure. A new documentary is out about his life called good fortune from our conversation. Some of the scenes from the trailer. I grew up in downtown los angeles. We believe that john paul didnt know he wasnt mexican until he was 15. My mother did not let loose. She had no choice. There was tough days. Ive been homeless twice in my life. I lived in my car. I learned how to eat off 99 cents. My friend said i got an extra room four and it was around a biker community, the hells angels. There a were some mean dudes. You have to dig into yourself to get out of that. I started on sales. I sold photocopy machines. I sold life insurance. I sold so much stuff. Struggling and what happens . He meets paul and they birth Paul Mitchell. Wow. I read somewhere john paul where you say you hope that this documentary shows that america still works. Thats right. Let me start by asking whether or not you believe. That do you believe that america still works . Beyond any question of a doubt. Today i could have done the same thing a heck of a lot easier. Back in 80 and 81, we had no computers. If you wanted something set, you went to a type setter. Inflation was 12 1 2 . Unemployment, 10. 5 . We had to wait in line for gasoline. If you could get a loan, which we couldnt, minimum interest was 17 . You Better Believe it is easier now. And its much easier to day than then. There are so many people struggling trying to make it in small business. Trying to make it as an entrepreneur. So it worked for you. Yes. I wonder whether or not you think seriously that it works for anybody who puts as Much University as you put snornlg. Definitely. I give them two good reasons why it does work. One, is i got this from selling encyclopedias in my early 20s is door to door with no commission, be prepared in life for a lot of rejection. Many people get rejection and say oh, my god, ill never make ut because of what someone told me or what somebody did or what i did in my past. Be prepared for. That if youre prepared for it, its not going to hurt you or affect you as much. And the second thing is make sure that your service our your product is the best there is. Because you dont want to be in the selling business. You want to be in the reorder business. So whatever you have a sell, people want a lot more of it. Im blanking on the actress name. Danny trail. Thank you. Did he grow up here the same time we did . I love danny. I dont know him. But hes a great actor. Hes a good guy. Sometimes it is the case that if we dont buy into a narrative thats been written for us or written about us, which means that were less than and are entitled to have less than others fushgs dont buy into that, then there is a freedom in. That i think the great Freedom Fighter Harriet Tubman who said she could have freed more slaves if they knew they were slaves. So you buy into a certain narrative, sometimes that holds you back. So i heard the joke that he cracked. Im also wonlderidering if you t allow a narrative to be written for that you held you back . Exactly. One of the best ones, its in the movie, mr. Wax, our High School Business teacher told myself and misch i will gilliam in front of the class the two of us would never succeed at anything. We were passing notes back and forth. I went into the navy afterwards. I got out of the navy and my friend said how about your buddy michelle . He said dont you know . I said, no. Vietnam is flaring up. They said, thats michelle fill toipz day at the mommas and poppas, your buddy is a superstar. She found mr. Wax on my 50th birthday and brought him down there. We told him what he said and we never listened to him. Dont listen to people. No matter what your race, color, creed, religion is or how much money you have or dont have, you can make it if you believe in yourself and youre prepared to overcome rejection. And as long as you know its coming, its not going to hurt you as much. What have you learned, and im always in awe of people who with k. Run any number times of businesses as well. Can you run in the hair care lane. You can run in the tequila lane. What you have learned about being mall uable in that way in a Business Environment . The majority of my life is spent with my philanthropic endeavors on behalf of all the companies im involved n what i found sought whatever attention i pay to Paul Mitchell, pa troen and all the rest, whatever i do, i do it as part of my lifestyle. I may do it on the telephone. I my do something philanthropic and meet with a distributor, shake his hand, do press, whatever it may be. You work it into what youre doing. Also another thing that is important for people to know, we humans are okayable more than can you possibly imagine. I didnt do hair, he didnt do business. My first employee was after six months. Her name was shirley wong. She had to do ten jobs so i get out in the field. She did them. Never questioned it. Those are jobs that ten different people should have done. She did it all. Humans have that ability to be able to a lot more they cover anticipate. You just dont hold yourself back by maybe limitations others put on you. Tell me, just give me a little taste, tell me about the beginning thats genesisst John Paul Mitchell story. We had half a Million Dollar setup. I knew i needed that to start the company. Ive been in the industry. The day we were starting, our backer pulled out for all the reasons i gave you previously. And it was like, wow. We have no money. I left what i was doing. I left all the money behind with the family. There the newer car, took the old are car and ended up with my p partner could afford 350. I borrowed 350 from my mother. My mom said why are you borrowing this . I said, mom, i just need it. She said youre very successful at what you do. I said im starting a new company. I was too proud to say mom, im out of a house. My backer pulled out. Can i have my room back it . Wasnt available. Will you feed me for a couple of months which she would have done. I was too proud to ask. You know im going to do it on my own, stupid. Ways stupid. What do you make of that decision. My mom was upet i think that would sbrnt conversati you cant change that. From here forward, you go forward. I was fired many times from companies. From here you go forward. Dont dwell on who did it, who caused it if i wasnt here f i could only change my life because you cant. A brand new day. We start forward. How long did she live . How deep into your success did she she went really deep into my thing. I started Paul Mitchell 38 years ago. My mom died about ten years ago. So she saw the success. And anything momma wanted . You want to go some place . Here is a first class ticket. What do you want, momma . Of course. Heck yeah. Thats beautiful. You mentioned some of your philanthropic enterprises. Tell me how do you spend your time and how do you choose the causes which you are going to spend your time . I have about 160 of them right now. I try and, you know, go down. I live mainly in austin, texas. I have mobile loefz aafs and fi and takes the homeless and they have a real life and we get them jobs. In los angeles, i do ive done things for years. We find a place to live, food to eat. With the sea shepard, i board the sea shepard ship. We go out there and save baby seals africa clubbed to death. We save the whales. We save the sharks from being mutilated. I just along the way do it all. I just find time to be able to do it along the way. Its a lot. I enjoy it. Its part of my lifestyle. Its not like i have so much time for business. I kind of do everything together. And its very fulfilling. I would assume, correct me if im wrong. I assume that your star wood support even to this day for homeless causes. I was homeless twice in my life and its not president anlt. Im able to go down to places to mobile loafs and fishes. In los angeles where i was born and raised. Tell them, im like you. Im the 99 as well as the 1 . Let me tell you how i did it. Let me tell you how i overcame what did you. Whether you live in the car or on the street, lets talk about it. Lets talk about moving forward in life. Yes, i participate. I think its everyones obligation to make your city where you came from, where you live now your country and the world a better place to live. Tell me more about how the city of los angeles is a character in your story. I know youre from here. I am. Born and raised. Exactly. Would your story be the same story as it is if you were not in l. A. . How does it factor in . I happened to live here in l. A. Thats why. I think it is the same story if i started some place else. If there was a encyclopedia office which i think they had them all over the United States at that time. The city of l. A. Is where i lived. And thats why i did it in the city of l. A. What made you such a good salesman . I think it goes back to when i was delivering up intoes here in l. A. It was the morning examiner. That used hob the hot newspaper. I give the morning newspapers and deliver them. Once a week my brother and i would go out and bang on doors because every time you got a new customer, they gave you an extra dollar. That was a lot of money back in the mid 50s. So my brother and i would go knocking. Hi, l. A. Examiner. Finally we got a presentation. It has four parts to it. The pig sprbig experience i got enpsych low tee yachlt the big lesson i slernd overcome rejection. As kids, you dont get much rejection. I dont have the newspaper. But going around, you get a lot of rejection and doors closed in your face because you have no appointments. It is all door to door calls. You get the sale. When you got proficient and got good at getting the sale, what was it that made that happen for you . I dont it was very good. Thats a good question. So much rejection, you overcome little by little how to overcome that rejection. Get in doors more often. You give a presentation. You miss it. Keep doing it better and better and better until you finally get it and you see what worked. You dont give up. You keep on trying. You dont give up no matter what rejection you have. Good place to close there. The documentary is called good fortune. You got a lot of it. Can you get on amazon for 7 or 8. Theyre going to it one month really inexpensive. Its already out in the theaters. Good fortune is the name. Good to you have on the program. Thank you. Thank you for sharing your story. Thank you. Thats our show tonight. Thank you for watching. And as always, keep the faith. Today, on americas test kitchen. 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