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Times in the game where you have to be risky. Good decision by geno dumping it off and putting them in field position. 6 30 to play in the fourth. Second and eight. Hand off again to johnson. And johnson inside the 40. To about the 37 yardline. Those of you expecting to see 60 minutes, this is the nfl on cbs and the game between the jets and the Green Bay Packers with trent green and Evan Washburn im greg gumble. 60 minutes will be seen immediately following the game except on the west coast. Third and five. Powell does not get close to a first down. What does rex ryan do here . Considering the first half he went for it on fourth down in field goal range this is not necessarily field goal range this here would be 54, 55 yard kick and yes, folk and make the distance of a kick but i think rexs track record shows he is going for it. One for one on fourth down today. [cheering] smith going deep for it all. To the end zone. Caught for a touchdown Jeremy Kerley they had blown the whistle before the play was snapped. Prior to the snap new york called its third and final time out. Because of the crowd noise it was hard to hear the wristle, you can read ryans lips. He says who called time out . Rex ryan is saying i did not call time out. Who called a timeout . Lets see if we can hear a whistle. Is that marty at the top of the screen . Wow. Whoa. Lets see if we can find it on the replay. Greg mentioned marty. Here he is up here. That is marty. Lets see if he goes running down and calls a timeout. He is yelling it and calling for it. Reset the game clock to 5 06 on the game clock. We will do fourth and four again. [cheering] geno smith throwing this time and complete at the 30 yardline for a first down to david nelson. Well, the word we are getting from mike carey our expert in new york is that only the head coach can call a timeout from the sidelines. Well, the official cannot turn and see who it is that is calling it. But he was running down trying to get rex ryan to call it. This is chris ivory. Ivory inside the 30. So what just happened was on fourth and four. Geno smith threw a touchdown pass to kerley. However, marty, apparently, signaled for a timeout on the sideline which negated the touchdown and our expert mike says that is strange because only a head coach can call a timeout. But the officials cannot turn and identify. Second and eight. Running out of time. Got the snap off. Geno smith. Throwing. Far side of the field tipped in the air incomplete. Intended for Chris Johnson broken up by julius peppers. On that is a size mismatch for peppers but great job by johnson going up and preventing peppers from coming down with the football. Geno smith was under duress. He had to get rid of the football. Nice job by Chris Johnson. Geno smith three for his last 10 throwing. Third and eight. [cheering] throwing, incomplete at the 15 yardline and he had kerley open. He had kerley open but someone tipped it at the line of scrimmage. They are bringing everybody from the right side does a nice job. Its almost an out with a sit down. We call that a stop route. And we give the corner an outmove and it is a spot throw for the quarterback. So there is a green bay defender that got a hand on it. [cheering] fourth and eight. Here they come. Smith throwing to the end zone, in the air incomplete Jeremy Kerley wants a call and he is not getting one. Sam shields with a defensive play and the ball goes over to the packers on downs. The nfl on cbs is sponsored by. Welcome back to lambeau field. 3124 packers threeandahalf to play. Back to the one play. This is fourth and 4. And marty right here and rex ryan is right next to the official. And the head coach is the only coach on the sideline that can call a timeout. Marty runs down and is yelling at rex ryan for the timeout but the official cannot see who is calling it. Rex ryan does not call the timeout. Marty is yelling for the timeout. But the official blows the whistle. And it wiped out the touchdown pass to kerley and then the fourth down attempt there incomplete. And the jets are out of time outs. With threeandahalf to pla y. Lacy and the jets can not stop the clock. 60 minutes coming up next here on cbs. Green bay is not going to completely forget about the pass. They have to get a first down for this clock to run out. The jets have no time outs its important for green bay not to give the ball back to the jets and give them a desperation try. They ran on first down to keep the clock moving. But lets see a short pass and keep them inbounds and try to keep the clock moving. Lacy again left side. And he pushes his way out close to the 35 yardline. And the packers can take this right to the twominute warning. Jets jumped off to a 213 lead and got a turnover on the first snap of the game when Aaron Rodgers fumbled. Turned it into a touchdown. Jumped to a 213 lead and back came the packers. So it will be a twominute warning. Two minutes to play here in green bay. 3124 packers. Reminder tonight on cbs begins with 60 minutes and followed by big brother and unforgettable tonight only cbs. What do the packers do . Offensive mentality is try not to give the ball back to the other team. And defensive is run the ball and punt it and trust the defense. Rodgers will throw it. Quick pass complete for a first down and more. There goes nelson to midfield and that will put the icing on the cake for the Green Bay Packers. And if i had Aaron Rodgers i would have that offensive mentality and be aggressive and go for it. And Aaron Rodgers just passed bart starr for the second most yards in franchise history. Behind only brett favre. And nell con went over 200 yards of receiving. And that play clinched the game for the packers. 24,732. Rodgers takes a knee and one more knee will do it. Green bay gets into the win column here at home. And will next take on detroit. And then chicago. So big games in the nfc north. Followed by minnesota as well. The jets give it a battle. They will next play chicago on monday night. And that will do it. The jets had it early. The packers came on strong late. And green bay wins its 51st home opener. And 699 regular season wins for this great franchise Aaron Rodgers engineered the comeback and he did it well. Once again, our final score the Green Bay Packers 31 and the new york jets 24. Coming up next, 60 minutes followed by the Big Bang Theory and unforgettable. For trent green, Evan Washburn and our entire crew at green bay. You have been watching the nfl on cbs. So long from lambeau. Great rates for great rides. Geico motorcycle, see how much you could save. 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Kroft thats the apartment . That corner on the third floor. Kroft the apartment belonged to boston mobster and longtime fugitive Whitey Bulger, then the most wanted man in america. Bulger eluded the f. B. I. For 14 years by hiding in plain site in santa monica, california. Tonight, youll hear from the agents who finally caught him, with some help from an alley cat and his girlfriends Breast Implants. We just rushed him. Kroft you mean guns out . Fbi, dont move i asked him to identify himself and that didnt go over well. He asked me to fing identify myself. And i asked him, i said, are you Whitey Bulger . He said, yes. Keteyian nick saban runs the Gold Standard of College Football programs. He has been disciplining and demanding on his three championships in four years. I want you to step, step, step. Do it again. I told you three times already today. We create a standard for how we want to do things. 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The story of what went wrong with his medical care exposes a problem in the way that america handles Mental Health. Its a failure that came to the fore with the murders at sandy hook elementary school. The vast majority of mental patients are not violent, but this is a story about the fraction who are a danger to themselves or others. As we first reported in january, parents of mentally ill children in crisis often find, as senator deeds did, that they have nowhere to go. Creigh deeds bears the scars of this failure on his face, his body, and his soul. Creigh deeds i really dont want gus to be defined by his illness. I dont want gus to be defined by what happened on the 19th. Gus was. Was a great kid. He was. He was perfect son. You know, its clear the system failed. Its clear that it failed gus. It killed gus. Pelley we met creigh deeds four weeks after the attack. He was still distraught. But he told us his story was a warning that could not wait. What would have saved gus . Deeds if he could have been hospitalized that night, they could have gotten him medicated, and i could have worked to get gus in some sort of longterm care. Pelley this is gus deeds when he was 20 years old, a talented musician on the deans list at the college of william and mary. Deeds gus, when he turned 20, i was running for governor. He wanted to come, and so he took the fall of 2009 off to be with me. And those are some of the best memories of my life is having him with me there. Pelley but after the campaign, for no reason anyone could see, gus deeds stopped taking care of himself and became paranoid, obsessive, antisocial. He dropped out and couldnt keep a job. In 2011, he was diagnosed as bipolar. His father was so worried that gus would kill himself, deeds told us he got rid of all of the guns in their rural farmhouse, except one hunting rifle that had no ammunition. Later, with medication, gus returned to william and mary, until last fall. Deeds gus had posted weird things on his Facebook Page about, you know, how the professors were ganging up against him, and he was going to start boycotting class. It was pretty clear to me that he wasnt taking medicine. I told gus that he and i needed to talk to somebody together. Pelley thats when deeds discovered that talking to somebody getting treatment is harder in Mental Health than any other kind of medicine. In the decades after the 1960s, most large mental institutions were closed. It was thought that patients would get better treatment back in their communities. But adequate local facilities were never built. The number of beds available to psychiatric patients in america dropped from more than half a million to fewer than 100,000. That leaves many kids in crisis today with one option, the emergency room. Brian geyser you know, every day, we have ten to 20 kids with psychiatric problems come into our Emergency Department, kids who want to kill themselves, whove tried to kill themselves, whove tried to kill somebody else. Pelley brian geyser is a Nurse Practitioner we met in the Emergency Department of Yale New Haven Hospital in connecticut. Its one of the best in the nation in psychiatry. Geyser we have 52 psychiatric beds here at yale, and right now, all 52 are full. And so the seven kids that are here in the emergency room are waiting for an open bed. Pelley how long will they wait . Geyser five of them have been here three days already. Pelley most every day, the beds are full of patients in crisis. 17yearold tyler wrightington was waiting in the e. R. He had just slashed his face with a knife. You hear voices . Tyler wrightington yes. A new voice came about a year ago. And he. Well, i call it a he because it was more of a deeper voice. But he ended up telling me to hurt myself and making me find ways to hurt myself. Pelley do the voices ever tell you to hurt someone else . Tyler wrightington only once, and that was at school. And they. And that was when i got admitted into the hospital, because i was actually considering hurting the people around me. And i was. I was like, this aint me. This is not what i want to do. Pelley tylers dad, ernie wrightington, had called a psychiatrist that week, but couldnt get an appointment for three months. Theres a National Shortage of psychiatrists. Why is there not another option for you . Ernie wrightington this has always been our only option. Pelley the emergency room. Ernie wrightington the emergency room, yeah. Because the. We know that when we come here. They take the time to take care of him. They sit and watch him, make sure hes okay. Pelley but okay usually means okay for the moment. Typically, Insurance Companies pay for this care only as long as the patients are at imminent risk of harming themselves or others. Geyser some Insurance Companies will give us a couple of days, a few days before they ask us to call them back to get reauthorization for the admission. Some of them are every single day that we have to call. And so usually, you know, were talking about, you know, three to four days, and the Insurance Companies are saying, all right, you know, its time. Lets get this kid out. Pelley because theyre not going to kill themselves or someone else right now. Geyser right now, yeah. Pelley many patients need care for months or years. But there are few facilities of that kind, theyre expensive, and often insurance wont cover them. So kids in crisis spin in the Emergency Rooms revolving door. I want to go home geyser we need to be able to set up a system where we follow these kids into the community, we follow the families, we make sure that they have a safety net, and somebodys watching them and monitoring them, because, you know, it could be next month, it could be six months from now, and the child will do something again. But if they are not hooked into a system that is watching them, taking care of them, then we could have problems on our hands. Pelley how many of you have had to take your child to the emergency room . Everybody. How many times . Mary jo andrews i cant count. Meg clancy i couldnt count. Pelley seven connecticut mothers, including mary jo andrews, meg clancy, and dee orsi, told us about their e. R. Crises and battles over insurance. Dee orsi my daughter, after spending. She was eight at the time spending 12 days in the hospital, they told me she was ready to come home. By friday morning, we were in the psychiatrists office for her followup appointment. She was seeing blood dripping from the walls. There were statues telling her to kill me, and she was ready for discharge three days earlier. Clancy we had one with an Insurance Company. They wanted to discharge my daughter. She needed to stay where she was safe, and the Insurance Company would not pay for her to stay, and so i was told by our social worker in the hospital that if i gave my daughter up to department of children and families, that then she would have Insurance Coverage through the state and she would be allowed to stay. Pelley wait a minute give. Give. Clancy give her up. Pelley give her up to the state . Clancy correct. Give her up to the state. Pelley and you said what . Clancy absolutely not. Pelley they formed this support group because so few people understand their troubles. For example, they share the names of contractors to repair walls or remove doors. Their children punch holes in the dry wall, and cant be allowed to lock themselves in a room. What is the difference between being the mother of a child who has mental illness, and the mother of a child who might have Heart Disease or cancer . Clancy sympathy. Pelley being in connecticut, they watched the tragedy at sandy hook elementary with more insight than most. Referring to the killers mother, one of them told us, if nancy lanza had a Health Care Plan for her son, she couldnt have made it work. Andrews theres really no place after the hospital, so the kids end up coming back home, right where the situation started. And you know, the psychiatrists and the hospital will say, youre right, the system is broken. And i remember at one discharge, i refused to sign the discharge paper because i wasnt going to agree that it was appropriate. Pelley they discharged your child anyway . Andrews oh, yeah, yes. Pelley that is essentially what happened to creigh deeds in virginia last november. But his effort was further complicated by the fact that his son gus was an adult, over 18, and gus didnt want treatment. Deeds had to get a court order and sheriffs deputies to take gus to the e. R. A state law, designed to protect patients rights, meant that the court order would expire in only six hours. Thats all they had to find a hospital that would admit him. Deeds whole afternoon, gus didnt sit down. He paced the floor. Hed look at me, hed smile. And i just had this sinking feeling that he wasnt going to be hospitalized. Pelley and if you didnt find a hospital bed in six hours, gus was coming home. Deeds he was coming home. And i was concerned that if he came home, there would. There was going to be a crisis. Pelley a representative of the county agency that manages Mental Health care told deeds that he couldnt find a hospital with a psychiatric bed appropriate for gus case. Youre concerned that your son is suicidal, the clock has run out on the emergency room, and he comes in and says, sorry, youve got to leave . Deeds well, the. He said that gus wasnt suicidal. I guess hed made. Pelley based on his evaluation. Deeds his evaluation that gus wasnt suicidal. Pelley what did you say to him, in leaving the emergency room . Deeds i said, the system failed my son tonight. Pelley there was no place to go but home. Deeds and he sat at one end of the dining room table. I sat at the other end. I ate my food, and he just was writing furiously in this journal he kept. Not much conversation, and i said, good night, bud. I didnt know what was going to happen. But, the next morning, you know, i felt like thered be a confrontation, but i didnt. I had no reason to think thered be violence. And. But, you know, i. I got ready for work, and i went out to the barn to feed the horses, and gus was coming across the yard and he was. I said, hey, bud, howd you sleep . He said, fine. I turned my back and, you know. I turned my back. Had this feed thing in my hands, and. And he was just on me. Pelley he attacked you. Deeds he. He got me twice, you know, stabbed me twice. Pelley with a knife . Deeds the state police told me they found a knife. I turned around and said, bud, whats going on . I said. And he just kept coming at me. I said, gus, i love you so much. I said, dont make this any worse than it is. He just kept coming at me. And he just kept. I mean, you know, i. I was. I was bleeding a good bit but, you know, he turned around and he started walking toward the house. Pelley deeds staggered away. A neighbor found him. A helicopter ambulance was called. Deeds when i was in the rescue squad or in the helicopter somewhere, id heard about some. You know, some call came over the scanner that thered been somebody with a gunshot wound to the head. Pelley the gunshot victim was gus. Deeds oh, yeah. Pelley gus had killed himself. He had found or bought ammunition for that last rifle, the unloaded rifle, that deeds had kept in the house. You were describing the last night in which he was writing feverishly in this notebook before you said good night. Did you go back and look at that . Deeds i did. Pelley what was he writing . Deeds he had determined that i. I had to die, that i was an evil man, that he was going to execute me and then he was going to go straight to heaven. Pelley youve told us in this interview again and again that you dont want gus to be defined by what happened in those few seconds. Deeds i want people to remember the brilliant, friendly, loving kid that was gus deeds. Well use gus, i hope, to address Mental Health, and to make sure that other people dont have to suffer through this. Pelley creigh deeds returned to the state senate last january with four new pieces of legislation aimed at reforming Mental Health care in virginia. Thanks to his work, state evaluators now have eight hours instead of six to find a bed in a Mental Health facility for a patient in crisis. Theres now a realtime online registry of empty beds, and a requirement that if time runs out, patients like gus deeds can be sent to a State Hospital instead of being sent home. Cbs money watch update sponsored by glor good evening. Analysts believe isis is making more than 3 million a day from oil smuggling, Human Trafficking and more. Air france will cut flights by 60 tomorrow due the to a pilot strikement and netflix launches video streaming in six European Countries tomorrow. Im jeff glor, cbs news. Dad,thank you mom for said this oftprotecting my future. You. Thank you for being my hero and my dad. Military families are uniquely thankful for many things, the legacy of usaa Auto Insurance could be one of them. 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The story of how they managed to elude an International Manhunt for so long while hiding in plain sight is interesting. And tonight, youll hear it from the gaskos neighbors, and from the federal agents who finally unraveled the case, with the help of a boob job and an alley cat. If youre forced into retirement, with a comfortable nest egg and a desire to be left completely alone, there is no place better place than santa monica, california. This low key, seaside suburb of l. A. Is shared by transients and tourists, hippies and hedonists, celebrities and lots of Senior Citizens attracted to the climate and an abundance of inexpensive, rentcontrolled apartments just a few blocks from the ocean. Places like the princess eugenia on third street, which is where charlie and carol gasko, a childless couple from chicago, lived for 14 years without attracting much attention from longtime neighbors or landlords. Josh bond is the building manager. What were they like . Josh bond they were, like, the nice retired old couple that lived in the apartment next to me. Kroft good tenants . Bond excellent tenants. Never complained, always paid rent on time. Kroft in cash . Bond in cash. Kroft Janus Goodwin lived down the hall. Janus goodwin they had nothing. And they never went out. They never had food delivered. She never dressed nicely. Kroft you thought they were poor . Goodwin yes, without a doubt. Kroft the one thing everyone remembers about the gaskos is that they loved animals and always made a fuss over the ones in the neighborhood. Barbara gluck remembers that carol gasko always fed a stray cat after its owner had died. Barbara gluck she would, you know, pet it and be sweet to it, and then she put a plate of food, like, out here. Kroft and what about Charlie Gasko . Gluck you know, he always had a hat on and dark glasses. I have to say it was mysterious to me why a lovely woman like that was hanging out with that guy, that old, grumpy man. I never could figure that one out. Until i heard they had 800,000 something dollars in the wall. laughter and then i went, oh, okay, you know . Kroft money wasnt the only thing found in the gaskos apartment on june 22, 2011, when the fbi stopped by and ended what it called the most extensive manhunt in the bureaus history. Scott garriola weapons all over the apartment. I mean, weapons by his nightstand, weapons under the windowsill. Shotguns, minirugers, rifles. Kroft loaded . Garriola loaded, ready to go. Kroft what had started out as a routine day for special agent scott garriola, who was in charge of hunting fugitives in l. A. , would turn into one of the most interesting days of his career. After getting a call to stake out a building in santa monica, he notified his backup team with the l. A. P. D. Garriola i had four guys working that day, and i said, we got a tip on Whitey Bulger, and ill see you there in about an hour. And invariably the texts return, whos Whitey Bulger . Kroft really . Garriola yeah, a few of them. So i had to remind them. Gently remind them who Whitey Bulger was. Kroft that he was number one of the fbis most wanted list. Garriola number. Number one. Number one, yeah. Big east coast figure, but. So, on the west coast, not so much. Kroft the cops in l. A. Were focused on gangbangers and cartel members, not some retired irish mobster who hadnt been spotted in 16 years. But then, few mobsters have ever been as infamous in a city as Whitey Bulger was in boston, and his reputation was for more than just being grumpy. Besides extortion and flooding the city with cocaine, bulger routinely performed or ordered executions, some at close range, some with a hail of bullets, and at least one by strangulation, after which, its said, he took a nap. Special agent rich teahan, who ran the fbis Whitey Bulger Fugitive Task force, had heard it all. Rich teahan bulger was charged with 19 counts of murder. He was charged with other crimes. He was a scourge to the society in south boston, his own community. Kroft he was also a scourge to the fbi, and a great source of embarrassment to teahan, special agent phil torsney, and others on the fbi task force. Years earlier, Whitey Bulger had infiltrated the Boston Office of the fbi and bought off agents, who protected him and plied him with information, including the tip that allowed bulger to flee just days before he was to be indicted. Phil torsney we really had to catch this guy to establish credibility after all the other issues. And it was just a matter of bringing this guy back to boston. Kroft torsney, whos now retired, and agent Tommy Macdonald joined the task force in 2009. The joke was bulger was on the fbis least wanted list. There hadnt been a credible lead in more than a decade. And their efforts in bulgers Old Neighborhood of south boston were met with mistrust and ridicule. Torsney some people, they told us right out front, you guys arent looking for that guy. People just made the assumption we had him stashed somewhere. I mean, people really thought that kind of thing. Tommy macdonald despite that mindset that were not going to help you, the fbi still got it done. Kroft took 16 years. Macdonald took 16 years. Yeah, this was not a typical fugitive. Kroft the fbi says bulger had planned his getaway years in advance, with money set aside and a fake identity for a thomas baxter. During his first two years on the lam, bulger was in touch with friends and family, shuttling between new york, chicago, and the resort town of grand isle, louisiana, where he rented a home until his identity was compromised. After that, it seemed as if bulger had disappeared from the face of the earth, except for the alleged sightings all over the world. How many of these tips do you think might have been true . Torsney boy, there was thousands and thousands of tips, and i think. I dont think any of them were true. Kroft one of the obstacles was there were really no good photographs of bulger or his longtime livein girlfriend Catherine Greig, a former dental hygienist. The fbi often noted that the couple shared a love of animals, especially dogs and cats, and asked veterinarians to be on the lookout. There were reports that greig once had Breast Implants and other Plastic Surgery in boston, so the task force reached out to physicians. Eventually, they got a call from a dr. Matthias donelan, who had located her files in storage. Macdonald i was trying to leave the office a little early to catch one of my kids ballgames. And i said, well, listen, im going to swing by in the morning and pick those up. And they said to me, do you want the photos, too . And i said, you have photos . And they said, yeah, we have photos. I said, well be there in 15 minutes. Kroft the Breast Implant lead produced a treasure trove of highresolution Catherine Greig photographs that would help crack the case. The fbi decided to switch strategies, going after the girlfriend in order to catch the gangster. This is an announcement by the fbi. Kroft the fbi created this Public Service announcement. 60yearold greig is the girlfriend of 81yearold bulger. Kroft it ran it in 14 markets on daytime talk shows aimed at women. Call the tip line at 1800 callfbi. Kroft and it didnt take long. The very next morning, the bulger task force got three messages from someone that used to live in santa monica, and was 100 certain that charlie and carol gasko, apartment 303 at the princess eugenia apartments, were the people they were looking for. The descriptions and the age difference matched, and deputy u. S. Marshall neil sullivan, who handled the lead, said there was another piece of tantalizing information. Neil sullivan the tipster specifically described that they were caring for this cat and their love for this cat. So that was just one piece of the puzzle on the tip that just added up to saying, if this isnt them, its something we better check out immediately because it sure sounds like them. Kroft a search of the fbis computer database for the gaskos raised another red flag not for what it found, but for what it didnt. Sullivan basically, like, they were ghosts kroft no drivers license. Sullivan exactly. No drivers license, no california i. D. , like they didnt exist. Kroft thats the apartment. Garriola right, that corner on the third floor. Kroft on the righthand side . Garriola yep. Kroft by early afternoon, fbi agent Scott Gariolla had set up a number of surveillance posts, and had already met with apartment manager josh bond to talk about his tenants. Bond he closed the door, threw down a folder and opened it up and said, are these the people that live in apartment 303 . Kroft did you say anything when you saw the pictures . Bond my initial reaction was, holy bleep . Kroft youre living next door to a gangster. Bond well, i still didnt really know who he was. Kroft but it didnt take him long to figure it out. While the fbi was mulling its options, bond logged on to bulgers wikipedia page. Bond and im kind of scrolling down. Its like, oh, wow, this guys serious. Its, like, murders and extortion. And then, i get to the bottom and theres this. This thing. Its like, from one of his old, you know, people saying, well, the last time i saw him, he. He said, you know, when he goes out, hes. Hes going to have guns and hes going to be ready to take people with him. I was like, ooh, maybe i shouldnt be involved in this. laughs kroft i mean, were sitting here laughing about it, but he is a pretty serious guy. Bond yeah, yeah. Kroft and he killed a lot of people, or had them killed bond i didnt know that at the time. Kroft bond told the fbi he wasnt going to knock on the gaskos door, because there was a note posted expressly asking people not to bother them. Carol had told the neighbors that charlie was showing signs of dementia. Garriola so we were back there. Kroft so, garriola devised a ruse involving the gaskos storage locker in the garage. Garriola it had the name gasko across it and apartment 303. Kroft he had the manager call to tell them that their locker had been broken into, and that he needed someone to come down to see if anything was missing. Carol gasko said her husband would be right down. Garriola we just rushed him. Kroft you mean guns out . Fbi, dont move garriola gave the words, hey, fbi. Get your hands up. Hands went up right away. And then, at that moment, we told him get down on his knees and he gave us. Yeah, he gave us a i aint getting down on my fing knees. Kroft didnt want to get his pants dirty. Garriola didnt want to get his pants dirty. You know, wearing white and seeing the oil on the ground, i guess he didnt want to get down in oil. Kroft even at 81, this was a man used to being in control. Garriola i asked him to identify himself and that didnt go over well. He asked me to fing identify myself, which i did. And i asked him, i said, are you Whitey Bulger . He said, yes. Just about that moment, someone catches my attention from a few feet away by the elevator shaft. Kroft it was Janus Goodwin from the third floor, coming to do her laundry. Goodwin and i said, excuse me. I think i can help you. This man has dementia, so if hes acting oddly, you know, that could be why. Garriola immediately, what flashed through my mind is, oh, my god, i just arrested an 81 yearold man with alzheimers who thinks hes Whitey Bulger. What is he going to tell me next, hes elvis . So i said, do me a favor. This woman over here says you have a touch of alzheimers, and he said, dont listen to her, shes fing nuts. He says, im james bulger. Kroft a few minutes later, he confirmed it, signing a consent form allowing the fbi to search his apartment. Garriola as hes signing, he says, thats the first time ive signed that name in a long time. Kroft was there a sense of resignation . Garriola i dont think he had it. I did ask him, i said, hey, whitey, i said, arent you relieved that you dont have to look over your shoulder anymore and, you know, its come to an end . And he said, are you bleep nuts . Kroft but, in some ways, Whitey Bulger and Catherine Greig had already been prisoners in apartment 303, which appeared to be a mixture of the murderous and the mundane. Alongside the weapons and all the money, they had stockpiled a lifetime supply of cleansers, creams, and detergents. The fbi took special interest in a collection of 64ounce bottles with white socks stretched over the top. Garriola i said, hey whitey, what are these . Are these some kind of molotov cocktail youre making . He goes, no, he said, i buy tube socks from the 99 cents store, and theyre too tight on my calves and thats the way i stretch them out. I said, why you shopping at the 99 cent store . You have half a Million Dollars under your bed. He goes, i had to make the money last. Kroft its been said that one of the reasons it took so long to catch Whitey Bulger is that people were looking for a gangster, and bulger, whether he liked it or not, had ceased to be one. Torsney he said it was hard to keep up that mindset of a criminal. And thats part of the reason he came down to that garage. It was hard to stay on that edge, that criminal edge, after being on the lam as a regular citizen for 15 years. Kroft the master manipulator gave credit to Catherine Greig for keeping him crimefree, hoping it would mitigate her sentence. She is now serving eight years for harboring a fugitive. On the long plane ride back to boston, bulger told his captors that he became obsessed with not getting caught, and would do anything to avoid it, even if it meant obeying the law. Whitey bulgers biggest fear, they said, was being discovered dead in his apartment and he had a plan to avoid it. Torsney if he became ill and knew he was on his deathbed, hed go down to arizona, crawl down in the bottom of one of these mines, and die and decompose. And hope. Hope that we would never find him and still be looking. Looking for him forever. Welcome to the cbs sports update presented by pacific life. Im james brown with stories from around the nfl today. Painton manning throws three touchdown passes to beat kc. The patriots win their first at the defense dominates. And the bills move to 20. Cleveland wins its first home opener since 04 in dramatic fashion. Murray rushes for 169 yards and dallas wins. For more sports news and information, go to cbssports. Com. The future to life. For more than 145 years, pacific life has been helping families achieve lifelong Financial Security with innovative tools and strategies. 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