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Meaghan well talk with former speaker of the house and Trump Transition Team member Newt Gingrich, and after a thorough defeat, democrats look to rebuild. Well sit down with former president ial hopeful senator Bernie Sanders and talk about that and his new book. Well also hear from our Politics Panel and sit down with cbs news journalists you dont normally see on camera, our 2016 embedded Campaign Reporters. What did they learn from voters along the way . Its all ahead on face the nation. Good morning and welcome to face the nation. Im john dickerson. President elect donald trump sat down with 60 minutes lesley stahl on friday. She asked mr. Trump which Campaign Promises he expects to keep. Lets go through very quickly some of the promises you made and tell us if youre going to do what you said or if youre going to change it in any way. Are you really going to build a wall . Yes. Reporter theyre talking about a fence in the republican congress. Would you accept a fence . For certain areas i would, but certain areas a wall is more appropriate. Im very good at construction. There could be some fencing. Reporter what about the pledge to deport millions and millions of unl undocumented immigrants . What we are going to do is get the people that are criminals and have criminal records, gang members, probably two million, it could be four million, were getting them out of our country or were going to incarcerate. Were getting them out of our country. Theyre here illegally. After the border is secured and after everything gets normalized were going to make a determination on the people that youre talking about who are terrific people. Theyre terrific people. Were going to make a determination. But before we make that determination, its very important, were going to secure our border. Dickerson all right. Lesley stahls interview with donald trump and the trump family will air on tonights 60 minutes after football. Joining us now is former speaker of the house and vicechair of the Trump Transition Team Newt Gingrich. He is also the author of the upcoming novel treason. Welcome, mr. Speaker. Does donald trump have mandate . Well, i think, first of all, he won, and he won pretty decisively in the Electoral College. And i think the deeper thing is republicans won the house, they won the senate, they won the governorship. Most republican governors in history, most republican state legislators in history. So if you look at the country, there is certainly a shift toward republican government on a pretty big scale. Dickerson is it a challenge for him that he didnt win the popular vote . To some extent, but in 49 states he had a majority and then theres california. We dont compete in california. The current rules of the game, were not going to carry california. Its a sad cycle. They dont invest because theyre not going to carry, so it gets worse every year. If this had been a general election, would the total vote matter . We would have competed in california. Dickerson are you still a fan of getting rid of the Electoral College . You used to be. In the long run you want the whole country to be represented. The point is if we had total vote mattering, we would have come peteed in california. We would have probably picked up at least two million votes just by competing. Dickerson lets talk about the pace of change. Should donald trump swing for the fences or go for singles . Swing for the fences. Ive done this twice in my career. I did it with reagan in 81. I did it as speaker in 95. This is a city that if you dont shove it as hard as you can when you have momentum, it will surround you. The swamp doesnt want to be drained, and the swamp will just suck you in if you let it. He needs to have a very, very aggressive first year. Dickerson when i covered your president ial race and run in 2012, you were. You made a case for incrementalism. In two cases you said, you know, when the country is as bitterly divided, and you put your name on a program and think any democrat is going to vote for it, you have to go. Your argument is you have to go out and sell it. So explain how you swing for the fences, shove this country, but arent moving too fast. Two things. First of all, all the review, a terrific book called the education of Ronald Reagan. It shows you what he learned about moving the country. So you have to move. Trump has to be the salesman. Second, take Something Big like infrastructure, he can work with Chuck Schumer on infrastructure. He can find a bipartisan path that allows us to dramatically improve infrastructure, something trump knows an immense amount about. And you could have a very big bipartisan bill on infrastructure. I suspect on tax reform theres a chance to put together a tax reform package which also, as Speaker Paul Ryan pointed out today, also means you can handle a lot of the terrific differentials inside the tax code in a way that could be very advantageous to american business. Dickerson back in 12, you also said we got mad at obama but he ran over us when we said dont do it, well, republicans ought to follow that same ground rule. Does that still apply . I think its very important that trump try to have as Many Democrats as possible help him do this, because one of the lessons of the obama years is if you do things that are big on the purely partisan basis, theyre not stable. I think trump wants to change america to make it great again for a generation, not just for eight years. Dickerson what has he done since being elected president that made you think, gee, thats different . Well, i mean, first of all, his speech on. His victory speech was very conciliatory, very much in the right direction. I think his visit to the white house was very respectful on both sides, and i think encouraging in that sense. And i think his meeting with paul ryan and with Mitch Mcconnell and the fact that hes integrating mike pence so thoroughly, which also happened with chaney. Chaney led the transition. Pence will lead the transition. I think all those things show you steps toward stability and maturity that are very, very encouraging. Dickerson paul ryan said today on cnn theres not going to be a deportation force. Mr. Trump has said that hes going to incorporate some ideas of obamacare, which he talked about on the stump, too. Now that hes president , are a lot of the things that seem to be bright rhines on the campaign, are they much more negotiable . If you listen to the brief section on 60 minutes, there are going to be substantial deportations. Theyre called criminals. Two Million People would be a lot of people to deport. And if its the same thing, well regain control of the border, and if you pass as gustworker program, you would be a long way to dealing with the rest of the folks who are here without legal permission. And i think that by stage we would accommodate it in some way. I think in terms of obamacare, its going to be repealed. But there are certain aspects of it that are widely supported, and you dont want to capriciously take away the right of somebody to be on their parents insurance until 26. You want to protect the right to have Insurance Coverage without any kind of precondition, but that means is youre not going to have mandate, which were not. It hasnt been effective. They cant punish young people with taxes for not buying insurance. Then you better have a highrisk rule which paul ryan has suggested where some device, so if you have a precondition but youre in the insured, youre still going to get health care. Dickerson let me ask you about a sense of conflict in this country. There were 60 Million People who didnt vote for mr. Trump. Help explain to somebody who didnt vote for him and to other people going around saying, not my president. In part donald trump rose to prominence by challenging the idea that barack obama was a legitimate president , that he wasnt born in america, that there was no evidence to that. Five years saying he was illegitimate. Why should anybody who doesnt like donald trump think he is legitimate now . Its a question or whether or not you want a successful venture. Frankly, if youre hard left, its very hard to imagine why youre going to accommodate a trump presidency, because the two goals. Remember, george w. Bush was a attacked by day one from the hard left. Obama was attacked from day one by conservatives. Weve now been through 16 years of siege warfare. Interestingly, while we got involved in a fight with clinton, no one ever attacked the legitimacy of the Clinton Presidency or bush one or reagan or carter for that matter. Dickerson part of what this stems from is the campaign that trump ran. Its been written about this campaign, his victory in the primary gave unprecedented visibility to the alt right, antisemites and selfproclaimed fascists. Supporting a President Trump cannot mean giving a path to the ugly fringe that has risen with him. What does donald trump have to do to address that . I have to say, thats garbage. I dont care what it says. This whole notion. The Washington Post had this column that pointed out that were on the anniversary of kristallnacht, the night when nazis attacked jewish businesses. This is crazy. Donald trump is a mainstream conservative who wants to profoundly take on the left. The left is infuriated that anybody would challenge the legitimacy of their moral superiority. And so the left is hysterical. But the fact is. You get this with steve bannon. Hes a naval officer, a hollywood movie producer, a manager at goldman sachs. The idea that somehow he represents. I never heard about the alt right until this nut case started writing about it. Dickerson so your point is its garbage so donald trump doesnt have to deal with it . Donald trump is donald trump. The country will organize itself around him. Dickerson does donald trump keep a twitter account . Look, if the technique for reaching 13 and 14 Million People at no cost and gets him around the new york times. Dickerson what do you want to do . I want to help plan the restructuring of the federal government. Dickerson that sounds like a doe metzic role. Well, its restructuring the federal government. Dickerson one question people had about donald trump, whether anyone can tell him no. Can anyone tell donald trump no . Maybe ivanka and melania. I dont know. Look, this is a very strongwild guy who has risen in remarkable ways. Hes worth 4 to 10 billion. He beat 15 other people for the nomination. He beat secretary clinton for the presidency. He took on virtually the entire National Media and beat them. He has a great deal of faith in his own instincts. Hes more right than we were most days. Dickerson speaker gingrich, thank you so much for being here. While republicans are enjoying their victories in the house, senate and of course the white house, Donald Trumps opponents are scared, angry and vowing to never let the country forget what he said and did on the campaign trail. We reject the president elect dickerson tens of thousands took to the streets saturday as protests continued for a fifth day across the country. And saturday night live took a break from the comedy to mourn the outcome. And even though it all went wrong. Ill stand before the lord in song. With nothing on my tongue but hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah hallelujah dickerson but democrats are also in for some soulsearching, looking to recapture lost ground. As it happens, theres a new book coming out this week, offering a road map for the party. Our revolution a future to believe in. Its author joins us now, a familiar fixture from campaign 2016, vermont senator Bernie Sanders. Welcome, senator sanders. Good to be with you one of the protest anthems going on about donald trump is not my president. Is he your president . He won the election. I did everything i could to see he not become elected, but he won. Our job now is to hold him accountable, you know. Mr. Trump claimed that he was the champion of the working class of this country, and as you know, mr. Are millions people who are working longer hours for lower wages. They dont have health care. They cant afford to send their kids to college. They cant afford childcare. If mr. Trump, in fact, has the courage to take on wall street, to take on the drug companies, to try to work forward, go forward to create a better life for working people, we will work with him issue by issue. But if his presidency is going to be about discrimination. If its going to be about scapegoating immigrants or scapegoating africanamericans or muslims, we will oppose him vigorously. Dickerson a lot of democrats are bereft at this outcome. And its in the just the loss. Its that there are people who are shaken by this. What is your message to the democrats . Our message is that we have to do a lot of rethinking and ask ourselves, how does it happen that we have a president , a u. S. Senate, a house, and most governorships around this country are controlled by people who want to give yowj r huge tax breaks to billionaires, many instances they want to cut Social Security and medicare and medicaid, who do not even believe in the concept, the understanding of Climate Change, which is virtually unanimously agreed to by the scientific community. How does it happen that they win election and democrats lose . And i think what the conclusion is is that democrats are focused too much with a liberal elite, which is raising incredible sums of money for wealthy people in the upper middle class but has ignored to a very significant degree the workingclass and the middle class and lowincome people in this country. Look, the truth is, in my view, this country is moving toward an of garrick form of society where a handful of billionaires and large corporations control the economy. As a result of citizens united, they now control our political system, where the Koch Brothers and billionaires can buy elections. They have undue influence over the media, as well. And what the Democratic Party has got to say to working people, you know what, we are going the take on wall street. With were not going the take their money. Were going to lower the cost of prescription drugs. Were going to raise the minimum wage. Were not going to be oonly major country on earth that doesnt guarantee health care to all people. You have to make a decision which side youre on. Democrats have to stand with the working families of this country. Dickerson how do you read the election result . Was it a failure of health care or a victory of donald trump . It was both. I think speaker gingrich is right. I think trump has very, very good political instincts. What he understood, which Many Democrats did not, is that if you want an average american out there making 30,000 40,000 50,000, youre working longer hours for low wages while almost all new income and wealth is going to the top 1 . Youre not happy. Youre seeing your jobs go the china. Your kids cant afford college. You cant buy the medicine you need. Youre worried to death about the future generation. Trump tapped that anger. Now, what our job is to do is to see what is his solution. All right. He talked about the problems. You think throwing 20 Million People off of health care is a solution to the Health Care Crisis . Is giving hundreds of billions of dollars in tax breaks to the top twotenths of 1 going to be the solution to income and wealth inequality . I dont think so. Our job is to say, mr. Trump, you talked about being the champion of the working families. Now produce. Your rhetoric was great. Now do something. We will not accept racism. We will not accept sexism or xenophobia. Dickerson do you think his campaign was built on that . Gingrich said that idea was garbage. Im afraid mr. Gingrich is wrong. Im not saying thats all it was built on, but when you begin your campaign by talking about throwing 11 Million People who are undocumented out of this country or building a wall with mexico or presenting muslims, one of the largest religions in this country, in the world, i should say, coming into this country, of course to a large degree it was. Dickerson should democrats Pay Attention to the way you ran your campaign or the way Hillary Clinton ran hers . Its not just Hillary Clintons campaign. Its time to rethink whether or not the Democratic Party can simply spend so much time and energy raising money from wealthy people and putting ads on television. What we need to do is create a Grassroots Movement of millions of people who want to transform this country and make it the kind of country we know that we can have. John, there is no rational reason why we pay the highest price in the world for drugs. No rational reason why we are the only major nation on earth that doesnt have paid family and medical leave. Why are our kids going to see a lower standard of living than their parents . We can transform this country. Were a wealthy country. We can do it. But we have to have the courage to stand up to the billionaire class and Corporate America. Dickerson senator sanders, well take a quick break. Well be back and talk about you book a little bit. Well be back in a moment with more from senator sanders. Stay with us. [burke] hot dog. Seen it. Covered it. We know a thing or two because weve seen a thing or two. We are farmers. Bumpadum, bumbumbumbum dickerson and were back with more from senator Bernie Sanders, not only a former president ial candidate but the author of our revolution. Senator, is this the Owners Manual for the new democratic revolution . I think it is, john. What i tried to do, half of the book is talking about the campaign, why i ran for office, what we did well, what we didnt do well. The kind of excitement that we generated all over this country. But the other half of the book basically asks the question and tries to give the answer how do we go forward . I am tired of watching television where you have a campaign which is about mr. Trumps attitude toward women versus health cares emails. You know what, those are not the major issues facing america. The middle class of this country for 40 years has been in decline. Massive levels of income and wealth inequality. Why . What can we do about it . Why do we not guarantee health care to all people . How do we create a Health Care System thats Cost Effective and universal . What about a broken criminal justice system. Why do we have more people in jail than any other country . How do we invest in our young people so we dont end up in jail . What about Immigration Reform . We have got to have information, and the media has got to do it as well, john. A serious discussion about the serious issues facing us. By the way, what astounds me, and i hope this changes really quickly, is you now have a president elect who actually does not believe that Climate Change is real. I worry very much what this means for our kids and our grandchildren and the future of this planet. And millions of people are going to have to tell him mr. Trump, you are dead wrong, and were going to have to transform our energy. Dickerson are you talking about marches on washington . Whats the action item for a nervous democrat out there . To understand that on virtually every major issue, raising the minimum wage, Climate Change, pay equity for women, rebuilding our infrastructure, making public colleges and universities tuitionfree, we are the majority. That is what the American People want. And the democrats will win elections by pounding away on those issues and talking about not giving tax breaks to billionaires, undoing citizens united, a Disastrous Supreme Court decision. We are the majority, and by the way, lets not forget Hillary Clinton did win more votes than mr. Trump, so pound away on the issues that bring people together, fight vigorously against all forms of this. Dickerson who is the leader of the Democratic Party right now . Well, in the house its nancy pelosi. In the senate it is Chuck Schumer. Dickerson and youre okay with that . You think people should look to them for guidance . Im not into leaders. I am into building a movement which transforms this country and brings people together around an agenda that works for the middle class and working families. Dickerson dont follow leaders. The next question, donald trump has talked about infrastructure, spending a lot of money getting people working again. Sounds like something you can sign on to. If it is sensible, absolutely. Our infrastructure, roads, bridge, rail, collapsing. We could put millions of people to working. Dickerson when you say sensible. It sounds like hes willing to spend a lot of money. In general rebuilding our infrastructure is absolutely imperative for this country. Drew is there another area where you can find Common Ground . I am very proud, i have been a leader in opposition to disastrous trade agreements from first day i was in the congress. From the best of my knowledge, the ppp is now dead. I fought it. Hillary clinton fought it. Mr. Trump is opposed to it. There is an area. Creating a trade policy so Corporate America in this country, not in china. We can Work Together on that. Dickerson senator sanders, we look forward to having you back. Thanks so much for being here with us. Well be back in a moment. Those new glasses . They are. Do i look smarter . Yeah, a little. Youre making money now, are you investing . Well, ive been doing some research. 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Now that donald trump is the president elect, hes going to do one big interview. Where . 60 minutes. Where else . 60 minutes tonight. He wears his army hat, he gets awalks aroundliments. With his army shirt looking all nice. And then people just say, thank you for serving our country and im like, thats my dad. Male vo no one deserves a warmer welcome home. Thats why were hiring 10,000 members of the military community by the end of 2017. Im very proud of him. Male vo comcast. Dickerson welcome back to face the nation. Im john dickerson. Were back with our Politics Panel, peggy noonan of the wall street journal, Michael Gerson from the Washington Post, Jeffrey Goldberg of the atlantic and slates jamelle bouie. Peggy, i want to start with you. Tough election. The country is split. There are more people voting for health Hillary Clinton than donald trump, but hes the president. What does donald trump do to address that situation . Oh, its probably always good to start out with a valujet banal yet truthful insight like a kind word, ratchet it down, be cool, be humble, be calm. I think a lot of people willing looking at the Staff Members and appointees he makes over the next few weeks and trying to discern whether we see accomplished people who look like they can do this and are seen inherently moderate, or is it going to be a little more unusual than that . One of the things i think that well see over the next six months is that its a mistake to discount the amount of pentup energy there is in capitol hill on the republican side. Theyve got a house. Theyve got a senate. They havent been able to do very much the past eight years. They havent been able to move too many balls forward. I think there will be a lot of reason for a lot of people on the hill to want to work happily and closely with donald trump. And do big things such as Newt Gingrich was talking about, infrastructure, as everybody is. Well, heck, do a big pow on that. Take a serious look at taxes. Do Something Big. Dickerson michael, is doing Something Big going to solve aftermath of this . You not only have democrats who are unhappy, but there are a number of republicans against donald trump who are nower in vs. And unsure. There is a split here. Some of the Trump Coalition hates the republican establishment, and some of the coalition is the republican establishment. Thats the way you have to run a government. So its all sweetness and light until you start to pick personnel and start to make priority decisions on governing. Some of that might be controversial things on executive orders, for example, with the dreamers. Well have a Supreme Court fight almost immediately. So, yeah, i think its fine now. Republicans are unified by victory and the prospect of 6,000 jobs, which is what the president fills. But i think were going to see the fissures very soon in the source of the chief of staff. That will send the signal. Are they for conciliation, or are they, you know, with their base . Dickerson jamelle, on the one hand you have the president and Hillary Clinton and even Bernie Sanders saying, well try and work with the new president , and on the other hand you have people marching in the street. Where does that go from here . I think this gets to the question of what President Trump can do to unify the country in the wake of this election. I think people marching in l. A. , on College Campuses around the country, arent marching simply because trump was a print president. Theyre marching because the Trump Campaign was very much based on demagogic rhetoric against immigrants, muslim, black protest, against americas nonwhite community. In the wake of trumps elections, there have been reports of intimidation, harassment and violence against those very groups some if trump is serious about unifying the country, if this is a thing he wants to do, i think he needs to immediately speak against these acts of intimidation, harassment and violence that are happening to some degree in the name of the campaign he ran. Dickerson jeffrey, whats your take on that . Newt gingrich said those charges are garbage. Theyre baloney. On the other hand, there is this feeling in the country, donald trump is now the president of the entire country. And if he were to speak to that, as jenelle suggests, what would that even look like . To unify what peggy is saying and what jamell is saying, i think, if there is a moment for him to speak to the country broadly, as president elect, not as former reality tv star, it might be on this very question. He might do something largehearted and articulate in a very specific way,ing i dont stand with the alt right. I dont stand with racism. I reject the support of anybody affiliated with the k. K. K. Because i believe i want to be the president of all americans. That would be the key signal to send that would actually calm the legitimate fears of a lot of people in america, citizens and people who are not yet citizens and certainly undocumented people that this is fundamentally different kind of presidency than anything weve seen before. That would be. That would be really, really good. And republicans have been waiting for that pivot for a year and a half. Its very hard to escape the practice or habits of a lifetime. And hes not been able to do so thus far. The great thing is that hes shocked now that hes president of the united states. That hour and a half he spent with president obama was a fairly shocking hour and a half for him for sure. And the pivot will come that he realize, im in the a reality tv star anymore. I have this job. Two of the people in contention for chief of staff are Steven Bannon and reince priebus, the chairman of the r. N. C. I think if trump chooses Steven Bannon, who is known for his associations with the web site breitbart, which is a clearinghouse for these alt right group, that will give us a sign of the kind of President Donald Trump intends to be, in the sense hes not aiming for any kind of unity with americas nonwhite population. Knock down the alt right, show compassion and leadership toward those who are understandably nervous or even paranoid, but also deal with the fact that some people on the other side of trump, some democrats, some liberals, progressive, some have become quite unhinged. I was in the middle of an antitrump demonstration in manhattan yesterday, and it managed somehow to be smilingly enraged. They were having a good time, but they were enraged at the outcome of this election. Sometimes people have to be reminded, this is what democracy is. There are outcomes sometimes that you dont like. And you cant simply assume the worst, at a certain point you have to say, america you made a decision. Well watch now and soon we will be judging. But its hard when the worst people in the country are cheering, the people with the confederate flag, the people that do antisemitism on twitter, thats difficult for a lot of people in this country. But, you know, i do think an inaugural, for example, is almost always an act of national healing. Look at previous inaugurals back to thomas jefferson, healing divides, thats a moment where your goal is to bring together the country in a substantive way the say were united by values and were stronger than the things that divide us. That could be a moment. He may have to move sooner than that, though. Thats january. I think part of the problem here is that Trumps Campaign wasnt a typical lower case d campaign in dock similar it was a liberal democracy campaign, a campaign that set out sort of explicitly that some people in this country arent quite worth as much as other people in this country, and thats the core of the fear. That is the core of the paranoia if you want to call it that. That is what people are worried about. That needs to be resolved. 60 Million People roughly who voted for donald trump, so many of them, they are just good, honest, decent, paint patriotic, wanting the best. They had an insight into our system that it was broken and it needed something dramatic. They just backed something dramatic, and they hope it will work, but i understand the negativity that we have all seen,but there is profound decency, too. But its not marching in the streets. Forgive me. Dickerson i wouldnt deny what you just said about most of the people that voted for trump. I would say to vote for trump was to overlook the fact that were talking about someone with a record of misogany and racist invective, and so that is what is troubling to a lot of people. Thats what makes this election, among other things, very different than others. Those good, decent people at least overlooked a very, very sorry record of prejudice. Dickerson lets switch to the Democratic Party and its challenges in the last couple minutes. What has the Democratic Party learned from this election. I think on a, thety cal level what the Democratic Party has learned is that it needs to win over some chunk or a greater chunk of workingclass whites. Thats ultimately where this turned. Had Health Care Won 50,000 more votes between pennsylvania and michigan and wisconsin, she would be president of the united states. The question is how you go about that. I think the choice, the likely choice of Keith Ellison as head of the dnc, Keith Ellison, congressman of minnesota, african american, muslim american, but also a democratic labour party, a strong populist, is giving you a sense of where the party may go in this direction. A commitment to its multiculturalism, a commitment to social inclusion, also a greater commitment to an economic populace that might be able to reach voters. Drew michael, whats your take . Do they become the party of opposition . I remember Mitch Mcconnell saying that keeping barack obama to be a oneterm president was his goal. Is that the better organizing principal, or have the democrats really lost the team and need to sell something positive . Well, they dont have a lot of will evers. They do wait for mistakes and wait for overreach, which often happens in new administrations. So i think they need to do this. But they do have a choice. They have a sanders model, a leftwing economic populism. They have a biden model. Much more outreach the white catholics and Union Workers and more Traditional Democratic constituency, or they have someone who can implement the obama model, the Obama Coalition, which health care tried and could not get out the votes to do. But the other candidate might be able to. This is the coalition. They are not yesterday ascended. They will eventually be ascended. I diamondback think that model is a discredited model. I think one year ago and 18 amongst ago the subject at this table was the breakdown of the republican party, it is shattering, it is breaking in, two its lost everything. Also last week it was the discussion at this table. Fair enough. Now it has turned and were talking about the breakup of the Democratic Party, theres no deep bench, they cant win here. They cant do this. Theyve lost here. The Obama Coalition didnt turn out. Why working class doesnt like them. This is an amazing flip on expectations. Drew the Sanders Campaign was evident to all of that. But they didnt go down that road. Dickerson unfortunately we have to go at this point, but we have a lot to talk about in future weeks. We look forward to having all of you here for that. We have to go for the moment. Well be right back in a moment. F eyes on our wells every day. Because safety is never being satisfied. And always working to be better. Because safety is never being satisfied. Oh no, that looks gross whoa, twhat is that . Try it. You gotta try it, its terrible. I dont wanna try it if its terrible. Its like mango chutney and burnt hair. No thank you, i have a very sensitive palate. Just try it guys, i think we should hurry up. If you taste something bad, you want someone else to try it. Its what you do. I cant get the taste out of my mouth if you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance, you switch to geico. Its what you do. Shhh dog, dog, dog. Bp engineers use underwater robots, so they can keep watch over operations below the sea, even from thousands of feet above. Because safety is never being satisfied. And always working to be better. Dickerson were back now with the cbs news 2016 campaign embed, the wonderful journalists who covered every moment of this campaign. Sopan deb covered donald trump. Hannah fraserchanpong was with the clinton campaign. Erica brown followed senator tim kaine. Chris christie and john kasich. Jacqueline alemany was based in New Hampshire and ohio. Kylie atwood was based in iowa during the primaries and also covered senator Bernie Sanders. Sean gallitz was embedded with senator marco rubio and then covered the battleground state of north carolina. And alan covered governor mike pence and jeb bush. Err cash let me start with you, but ill ask all of you this question if there is a story from the road, stl a moment for you that sticks out . There was a moment, and it was a personal moment. It was in New Hampshire before the primary. There was a really bad snowstorm. The snow was accumulating so quickly, and i was driving. I got very nervous. As i was turning the corner and it seemed in slow motion, my car started to veer into a ditch. It got stuck. And there were five gentlemen riding in a tow truck who drove past me. They stopped, came back. They started digging out my car. And i immediately got out and i said, wait, i need to know how much this is going to cost me first before you continue because i dont know if i can afford this. And they said, you know, the cost is for you to do something nice for someone else. The thing that sticks out to me is the last day of the campaign, 8 00 at night, we just landed in manchester, New Hampshire, mike pence gets on the p. A. System on the airplane, and he thanks the staff, he thanks the secret service, he thanks the airplane crew, and then he goes ahead and thanks the reporters for telling the story of the Vice President ial campaign. And then 20 minutes later were in this rally with donald trump and mike pence, and donald trump comes on stage and calls us the most dishonest people. It could not be a more jarring experience. Dickerson what did you learn about this country, about who the voters are . I think most of the people i met covering Hillary Clinton at her events were true believers, but there were moments on the campaign trail where she met voters who, you know, werent going to support her or who were not sure if they wanted to. When we went to west virginia, she had a very memorable exchange with a man who worked in a coal mine, and he had lost his job. I remember when he pulled up to that event there were a lot of Trump Supporters outside who were protesting. It was raining. They were still out there. They were waiting for her and they were angry. Inside this plan told her, i represent those people outside. And im not sure how you can come here and tell us that youre going to be our friend. And it was a really telling moment that i think held up in the end. Dickerson but you were in some pretty rough seas from time to time covering donald trump. What always struck me about trump rallies is they werent rallies as much as they were concerts. Hed come on stage. Youd be in these am pi theaters, and it doesnt matter what venue, hed always start out by saying, wow. Look at this crowd. Its record sending. It doesnt matter whether we were in a coffee shop with a thousand people outside waiting to step in. There almost was a. The people, i felt like Trump Supporters really wanted change, but a change back, not a change forward, which is kind of the make America Great again, right . So i always felt there was a fear of the change that was happening in the country already, and they wanted to change it back. I think for me as i talked to people at the the different events, it was clear that americans take politics very personally. I guess that was something that was new as a reporter who had covered politics more washington centric politics, if you will. But talking to people was my favorite part of this job, because they have stories they want to tell you. I think we all know its been a divisive election. I had a week where i covered a Bernie Sanders event on wednesday, ted cruz on thursday, bill clinton on friday. Back to back. What ill never forget, especially coming from a Sanders Campaign rally and a ted cruz rally, they werent talking to the same country i felt like. There was no commonality in their messaging or what they were talking about. They were painting very different pictures, and i think were seeing some of the aftereffects of that in some ways. Drew alan, you were with governor pence when the video comes out about donald trump on the bus with billy bush and those remarks. What was it like in those moments of. What happens to a campaign in that moment and how did the candidates respond . The reporters covering the campaign, it felt like the campaign was in a death grip. That day we went up to the rope line, and we asked mike pence, whats your reaction . Whats your reaction . And he didnt respond. And then he just walked away. Dickerson hannah, was what was it like when the comey letter came out . We were on the Campaign Plane flying to cedar rapids the day that james comey letter came out saying he was looking at something new. We had in wifi on the plane. Suddenly a reporter who somehow got a tweet or something came up on his phone, hes like, um, you know, have you seen this . And all the campaign disappeared into their cabin and consulted about it. When we landed, it was sort of unclear whether or not the candidate knew that this was happening. But the day sort of carried on like it was a completely normal day. We went to the event. Hillary clinton did the event. She didnt mention it at all. By the end of the day they responded pretty forcefully to comey and she had a little press conference and that was followed by press calls and press releases and all this, but it was really weird day. What was amazing to me amongst Trump Supporters is there were never any low moments despite the media narrative. Thats right. I went to a watch party in parma hosted by a group of Trump Supporters after the lewd tape had come up, the access hollywood tape. People were cheering and hooting and hollering and walked away, donald trump blew us away, he won hands down, thats it. A completely different narrative. I dont think Trump Supporters lost faith once. No. And the most shocking moment for me on the campaign trail was before a debate, i was along with small. The pool of reporters, were going to get a fiveminute photo onwith photo op can trump. My jaw just drops. Theres a picture of it. Ive seen that picture. Its trump with Clinton Accusers of alleged sexual misconduct. And you see. Im on the live stream. Donald trump is Live Streaming the reaction of the reporters as theyre walking inch you can see me and you can see me walk in and go. It was truly one of the most shocking moments of the campaign or probably that ive ever seen. Dickerson well talk more about campaign 2016 with our panel after the break. Fios is not cable. Were wired differently. That means incredibly fast 150 meg internet for the holidays. So in the 3. 7 seconds it takes gary watson to beat the local sled jump record, fly, gary, fly. His friend can download 13 versions of the perfect song. His sister can live stream it. While his mom downloads how to set a dislocated shoulder. Get 150 meg internet, tv and phone for just 79. 99 per month online for the first year. Cable cant offer that. Only fios can. Dickerson were back with our Campaign Reporters talking about surprising moments on the campaign trail. I think the moment i got to play ski ball with ben carson was surprising. Dickerson and how is he as a ski ballplayer . I beat him by 3,000 points. Dickerson is that a lot or a little in ski ball . Thats in between. Because dr. Carson wasnt the most accessible in terms of getting beneath the surface. He would hold meetings often, but we never knew what it would be like him around him. Off of the campaign trail to get a sense of what he was like at a person. When i first started this job, i pictured similar reactions of candidates. I never got to know donald trump. I covered him since pretty much the beginning of his candidacy. A lot of his sure gaza city talk about theres this donald trump, a private donald trump, this charming, disarming guy that is not the combative person. I only saw the combative person. He never gave us any access. He never talked to us. He never. I would be surprised if he knew the names of anybody in iis traveling press. Dickerson why would anybody want to be an imbed . That gross you tremendously as a journalist. You get to interact with so many voters and learn about what makes this country unique, what makes people want to come here and what some of the concerns are with people who lived here and who have families here and who want to be constructive members of society. On top of that, being away from friends and family for a year and a half, you also learn a lot about yourself. The hardest thing ive ever done physically, emotionally, psychologically. This job tests you in ways you didnt think were possible. And you learn a lot about yourself and what youre actually capable of, whether you think you can stay awake for 36 straight hours and, you know, travel the way we did and everything else, but theres also the hotel points. And airline miles. Thats not a bad perk. Dickerson the marriott. I mean, theyve all said it. I think its. You are on the front lines of history in the most beautiful way. I mean, you see it, you eut it, you live it, you breathe it. I never thought they would have such an understanding of like the fabric of america. Drew well, as someone who read all of your work and profited from it and also somebody who once did what you do, i couldnt have done it half as well as you all did, and we are incredibly grateful for your energy, for what you taught us and for the fact that you reminded us that there is joy in covering these races and this incredible american specious that is an election. There was not a lot of joy at times during this campaign, so thanks for bringing some of it back into our lives. Thank you. Thank you. Dickerson and well be right back. He wears his army hat, he gets awalks aroundliments. With his army shirt looking all nice. And then people just say, thank you for serving our country and im like, thats my dad. Male vo no one deserves a warmer welcome home. Thats why were hiring 10,000 members of the military community by the end of 2017. Im very proud of him. Male vo comcast. Dickerson we want to say congratulations and thank you today to veteran cbs news correspondent bill plante. Bills career has taken him all over the world, to unprecedented heights and into the most powerful rooms in washington. As a young reporter he covered the civil rights movement, interviewing Martin Luther king during the historic march from selma to montgomery. And he covered every president from Ronald Reagan to barack obama. Bill plante . No. Bills not here . Thats shocking. Dickerson bill, its hard for us to imagine cbs news without you. No one does it better, and youll be missed. Until next week for face the nation, im john dickerson. The election has levitt the nation divided. So whats the president elect going to do about it . Find out in Donald Trumps only big interview. 60 minutes tonight. He wears his army hat, he gets awalks aroundliments. With his army shirt looking all nice. And then people just say, thank you for serving our country and im like, thats my dad. Male vo no one deserves a warmer welcome home. Thats why were hiring 10,000 members of the military community by the end of 2017. Im very proud of him. Male vo comcast. Good morning and welcome to lincoln financial field and welcome to toyota sunday kickoff im don bell. Im lesley van arsdall. And under 90 minutes eagles try to turn things around against the highscoring offense in the entire league right now