that's donald trump's doing. >> the projection is such an important part of this. the projection is such an important part of donald trump 's m. o., but it's an important part of, at this point, the entire right-wing ecosystem, which has to defend, well, doesn't have, to but has chosen to defend a serial sexual abuser who has also taken all this money from foreign countries, as you noted in your in co-intro, and is guilty of every single crimes that they are imagining their enemies to be guilty. of the only way to see themselves as the forces of light is to engage in a constant projection. >> there's another aspect to the totemic role epstein plays, which is antisemitism. it's not just a cabal, but he's jewish, so it's a jewish cabal. you see this everywhere today. but that train is never late. from conspiracy theories to the jewish cabal. >> especially because of the war right now. so now you have a whole another