did not certify that slate of electors so there's criminal liability and what i think you will see is all of these electors running to meet with the department of justice to cooperate to get themselves out of trouble and go up the chain about people directing them and that's how as we know by now how investigations work. >> betsy, i don't know what mark meadows paid for legal representation but this is what we know from what they turned over to the 1/6 committee. received text messages and emails to encourage efforts to send slates of electors to congress and one said was highly controversial and responded i love it. meadows responded to a similar