Im ready for a conversation. I cannot do that under the threat that if republicans dont get 100 of their way, theyre going to either shut down the government or they are going to default on americas debt. Im a reasonable guy. Im a reasonable guy. O god, i made eye contact. Its time for us to sit down and have a conversation. This is selfcentered, it is outrageous. No, im a pretty emotional guy. Nice people dont do this. Im ready for the phone call. What am i supposed to do . You wont answer my calls, you change your number. Im a reasonable guy. Im a reasonable guy. What a nice Little Package that was. Are you believing now that boehner is a nice guy . That hes a reasonable guy . That all the president has to do is pick up the phone and say, come on down lets make a deal. You know, words matter. And i can tell you, as a broadcaster, when you say something, people Pay Attention and you can get in hot water in a heartbeat. You might not admit it that way, but thats just kind of how it came out. Ever been there . Words matter and how they are interpreted are very, very important. And what this man is saying to the American People right now is, we might not pay the bills. Let me go on record tonight. I think that we are headed for default. Absolutely, no question about it. The republicans, you cant trust them, youve never been able to trust them. All they care about is themselves. And we will default. In ten days. I believe that. Its all part of their mission to take down the president , to ruin his legacy, and they dont care about the economy. They care about power and they care about position, they care about winning. So the interpretation right now really isnt all that important. Because they have got this mission. Let me talk about absolutes for a moment. If youre the giants and youre 05, youre not very good. If youre the broncos and youre 50, youre pretty damn good. And thats a number. Conservatives love to talk about absolutes. They think they have a lock on the market when it comes to absolutes. I think this is one of the reasons why sports is so popular now, because the only thing we can count on, because we actually get a number. We know the giants suck. We know the broncos are pretty dog gone good. Thats an absolute. Whats the absolute here . The absolute here is that this man has a lot of power. This man can make a decision to make sure that we pay the bills as a country, and we dont default. Boehner says, he has absolutely no problem using the debt limit as a bargaining tool to reduce spending. We are not going to pass a clean debt limit increase. Under no circumstances . I told the president , theres no way were the votes are not in the house to pass a clean debt limit. And the president is risking default by not having a conversation with us. So under no circumstances will you pass a clean debt limit. We are not going down that path. It is time to deal with americas problems. How can you raise the debt limit and do nothing about the underlying problem . George, weve spent more than what we brought in for 55 of the last 60 years. Interesting. Interesting, interesting. He says he doesnt have the votes. Well, the only way you and i would get an absolute on that is if he put it on the floor for the vote and we got that number. Earlier today, president obama called out House Republicans on holding the debt limit hostage. He warned, their actions could have grave consequences. The second thing Congress Needs to do is to raise the debt ceiling next week. So the treasury can pay the bills that congress has already spent. Thats what most americans do if they buy something, they buy a car or if they buy a house. If they put something on a credit card, they understand theyve got to pay the bills. This is something routine. Its been done more than 40 times since Ronald Reagan was president. It has never before been used in the kind of ways that the republicans are talking about using it right now. We cant threat an economic catastrop catastrophe in the midst of budget negotiations. I think there are some americans out there saying, gosh, i think boehner talks a little bit better than obama. Well, obama, the president , really wasnt on his game today. Well, he said it, but he really dant say it as strong as boehner did, so boehner must be telling the truth. Lets say we dont pay our bills. You know what you know where we are . We dont have any maps. Thats thats an absolute. We dont have any maps. Were in unchartered waters. There are no experts that we can turn to and bring instudio and say, do you know for certain what is going to happen if the United States of america doesnt pay its bills . Well, when boehner opened his mouth, boom, this is just kind of tip of the iceberg. The market goes down. Were ohoh were below 15,000. The psycho analysts now are saying were below the economy must be tanking now. Were below 15,000. Were down 136. The s p off, the nasdaq. Well, look at this. We really dont know what would happen if we dont pay our bills, because in the history of the country, we have never been there before. Get ready. Thats where the republicans are going to take us. You know what i think could be the saving grace in all of this . Our allies. Is there room for the canadians, the germans, the brits . We borrow a hell of a lot of money from the japanese. Could we get some Asian Countries to step up and say, really dont think you want to do this . You see, right now this is americas problem. If we dont pay our bills, its their problem. There are no experts out there that can guarantee us that were going to stay above 15,000. That investors, not a problem at all. Paying the bills, well, thats really not all that important. Credit, what are you talking about . We have a broken political system, and you know what, the forefathers, they missed this one. They have they have no frame that can control this kind of thinking. Washington is totally wacko right now. And so im hoping that maybe there might be some foreign advice out there. Maybe we could have lunch over Freedom Fries or something. Maybe an economic summit so the rest of the world can tell the United States of america, you better get your act together, because this is whats going to happen. And in the meantime, you and i, were held hostage. I cant pick up the phone and call detroit lakes, minnesota, the city, and say, im not paying my utility bill this month. Because if i do that, theyll shut off my water, and sometimes it gets really cold up there in the wintertime and i dont want to have my family freeze our ass off. There are absolutes. What are the absolutes here . Let me give you the absolutes. Show mebaner again. This man, john boehner, has the power to do something about it. This guy getting in the way of cruz. He has the gavel. He is very powerful right now. He can absolutely call for a vote. We can find out if hes got the votes. He can absolutely turn the American People and say, dont worry, i have confidence in my ability, im going to go over and get in the face of the president and were going to sit down and do a deal, like, you know, uh, the gipper and tipper or whatever used to do . Remember those guys . I think somebody wrote a book about that. Good reading. I must say. Good job, chris matthews. This guy thats an absolute this is an absolute. He has the power to do it. Meanwhile, theres fringe canadian senator ted cruz. Hes loving life. Hes going off the deep end. Cruz said on sunday, the debt limit debate should be used in an effort to defund obama care. In my view, the debt ceiling, we should look for three things. Number one, we should look for some significant structural plan to reduce government spending. Number two, we should avoid new taxes. And number three, we should look for ways to mitigate the harms from obama care. Since 1978, the debt ceiling has been raised 55 times. Just so i so you think that some facet of the president S Health Care plan should be attached to an increase in the debt ceiling. The debt ceiling historically has been among the best leverage that congress has to reign in the executives. So yes . Yes, yes. Yes, yes, yes. Notice how the list is growing . You can always trust republicans. Nothing has been more Crystal Clear than right now in our history. They dont care about the success this country has made, and they just care about political power. They want that grab. Usa today reports, interestingly enough, the demand overwhelmed healthcare. Gov. The government expected the site to draw 60,000 simultaneous users. Instead it was drawing 250,000 users at the same time. More than 8 Million People who apparently werent sold on obama care just happened to hit that website. They visited the site monday through friday of last week. So i guess the administration did a pretty good job with all the messaging after all. Obama care is off to a great start. Fox news hates it. And the people signing up for heart atta health care are doing it and love it. And finding out, damn, this is not all that expensive, this is a deal. The fact the republicans want to use the debt limit to take away your health care is down right dangerous. The republican mission for years has been to privatize the big three. This is why they are freaking out about obama care. The popularity is killing them. This is why theyre talking about default. They cant let this happen. They want to privatize social security, medicare and medicaid. They want to streamline everything into the private sector. They dont want any government involvement whatsoever. And they will shut down the government and they will not pay the bills to get their way. The word is treason. The treasonist, john boehner. The United States is at risk right now. And i hope that there will be some foreign folks that will step up and say, you really dont want to do this. Keep in mind, they are bigpicture. They want the ryan plan. Thats really what they want. Get yours cell phones out. Tonights question. Is john boehner is he playing russian roulette with the American Economy . Text a for yes, text b for no to 67622. You can leave a comment at ed. Msnbc. Com. The results later on the show. Im on record tonight saying we will default. Its the republican plan. They want to tarnish president obama. They want him going down in history as being on his watch that hes the first president to see this country default. They love that history book. For more, lets bring in senator john tesser of montana who serves in the Senate Finance committee. Your thoughts on the environment in washington and where we are right now. Good to have you with us night. Good to be with you, ed. Well, weve got a long ways to go, and its unfortunate, because, you know, the debt limit is literally playing with fire. And i hear what youre saying. Hopefully some of our allies will come in, but the fact is this, ed. We need to get together and increase the debt limit. And then deal with the debt and deficit after that point. Were dealing with a full faith and credit of this country. And if we dont increase the debt limit, we saw a little bit of what can happen back in 2011. When our Credit Rating was decreased. I think if we do that, if we move forth and dont increase the debt limit, youre going to see this country with some pretty dramatic bad economic things happen. And youre right, when it comes to the blame game, then they can turn back and blame the president or blame harry reid. But the fact is, as my father once told me, you point a finger, theres three pointing right back at you. And if the debt limit isnt increased, the people who are responsible for this need to be held totally accountable. Senator, i have a theory what theyre trying to do is rope the democrats into a big play that would make major cuts to entitlements and the way to do that is to right to the edge of default and get the dps democrats to the table for a big deal. Isnt that what they generati generationally really want . It probably is what they want, they have been talking about it for a long time. And im not saying all of them, i think a minority of them. I think the bottom line here is, ed, if were forced into a big deal, it wont be it wont be a good deal for the American People and for american business. I talked to a bunch of Business People just this afternoon about the debt limit. And i can tell you that without exception they are all very, very concerned about what some of these hard right folks want to do to the economy. And its going to hurt working families, its going to hurt small business, big business. Its going to hurt entrepreneurs, its going to hurt the folks in agriculture. It not a good thing. And we need to get together and fix the problem and we need to minimize the minority thats created this problem. And you talked about speaker boehner. Speaker boehner needs to show some leadership and get the continuing resolution on the floor and get the debt limit on the floor. I know theyll both pass. And if he doesnt think so, lets get it on the floor and find out different. Well, thats all we would have to do is put it on the floor. We can get that absolute. We can get that hard number. We can find out if were beaten or undefeated. Thats really where its at. If you want a hard number, if you want to prove your case, put it on the floor and lets see how this whole thing votes and clear the air. But he wont even do that. Senator, what are Business People telling you . Are we going to see belt tightening like we have never seen before . Are we going to see doubledigit interest rates, are we going to see almost the impossible for middle class families to be able to borrow money . Whats going to happen . We dont have any experts on this. Well, i think for the very starting point, im not an economist, im a farmer. But the economists i talk to say you can look for a substantial increase in interest rates, not only on our National Debt, but for those folks out there who have borrowed money. And any time you see those kind of interest impacts yeah. Youll see contraction, youll see people get laid off, youll see more pressure put on employment insurance. Look, if they follow through with this, and dont increase the debt limit, its going to increase our National Debt significantly. Were starting to see because of the recession that we had four years ago, were starting to see the economy bounce back, and were starting to see the deficit being reduced. Weve got to do more. No mistake about it. But you dont do it you dont do it this way, withholding a gun to your head on the debt limit issue, or with the continuing resolution. All right. From the Senate Finance committee, john tester from montana, good to have you on the ed show tonight. Thank you, sir, appreciate it. I want to bring in former virginia congressman, tom periel periello, center for American Progress fund. One question tonight. Liberal groups in this country right now that want to see the democrats hold the line, what role do they play in keeping the president strong right now . I actually think the president is holding strong, but only strong after already conceding the budget points to the republicans. So i think its important for progressive groups to make clear and moderate groups to make clear, this should not be a game. We should have a clean cr. We should have a clean raising of the deficit ceiling. And get this thing done with. And i think people need to understand that. And what about boehner . The speaker seemed to have hardened his position before he went in front of the media on the talking heads yesterday. He wasnt talking like this last week. He was much more direct. He was much more in the president s face. Much more saying this is going to happen, and its not our fault. And he doesnt have the votes. He said he doesnt have the votes. We didnt hear any of that last week. What do you make of that . Well, you know, i think theres a somewhat dangerous narrative that emerges every time we head into one of these crises that boehner is secretly a moderate or secretly a statesman, and i am more than welcome to see that. We would welcome it with open arms. But thats not how even the fiscal cliff deal was reached at the end of the year. That was much more Mitch Mcconnell than john boehner. So i think we need to understand that this is going to be a serious fight for the next ten days. You saw such radical publications as bloomberg and business week coming out this today, making very clear how serious this issue of the debt ceiling is. Now that we start to see these debt ceiling truthers out there, suggesting it wouldnt really wreck the american or global economy. So i think we need to focus on the facts and the stakes here and eventually we do need some folks to rise up in the Republican Party and do the right thing. Tom periello, good to have you on the ed show. Thank you. Remember to answer tonights question. Share your thoughts on twitter at ed show and facebook. Like us on facebook. We appreciate that. We always want to know what you think. Coming up, miley cyrus and the snl cast make the Republican Party the butt of a joke. Actually, that was pretty easy. Plus, Marsha Blackburn tries to appeal to president obamas sweet tooth . Hey. Cookie time [ banker ] sydney needed some Financial Guidance so she could take her dream to the next level. 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You would think if youre a dishwasher, you would think maybe it would be the new conservative dishwasher. Conserve water. Glenn beck pushes progressive paranoia. Im looking for some paint. Im not kidding you, progressive paint. So now its progressive paint, progressive appliances. Look how they are just imbedding this everywhere. To make sure that you always understand that progressive is a good thing. Because you know, thats crazy talk. And todays top trender, c is for compromise. C is for cookie Marsha Blackburn makes a sweet deal with president obama. President obama wants to work with you. Come on down. Ill bake him cookies. Im not sure about these cookies. We are greeting him with open arms and an invitation. Im pretty partial to those mint those mint sugar oh honey honey joining me now is congressman George Miller of california. Great to have you with us tonight. If we can start from this position, the republicans say that the democrats will not negotiate. What does that mean to you . It means theyre living in a dream world. It means theyre living in denial of everything president obama has tried to do to negotiate. It means that they deny the fact that weve come down on the on the continuing resolution budget number from 998 to 996. It means that they refuse to put their budget into play to see if we can negotiate. They were so proud of their budget when they passed it months oh and months ago, and yet they refused to go to a Conference Committee with the senate to work out the differences between the budget and the senate and the budget in the house. So they wanted to stay away from any resolution of this issue and any place. Arent they putting the democrats in a defensive position, though . The law is the law. Health care is here to stay. Theyve used this as the bargaining chip to open the door to a greater discussion about the debt limit and, of course, the grand bargain they want. This is where i see it evolving. Your thoughts. I think it shows how out of touch with reality they are. The Affordable Care act has left the station. Hundreds of thousands of people all across the country, millions of people, in fact, across the country are trying to find out how they can get the benefits of the Affordable Care act for their families, for themselves, for their employees. And thats the fact. And but they what they said, they were prepared to burn down the house. To stop the Affordable Care act. That didnt happen. But now they keep trying to bring it back into the negotiations. They still want to overturn. They want to repeal it, they want to nullify it. They have lost touch with reality, except theyre holding our economy hostage as they lose touch with reality. Do you take issue with what boehner says. If he puts it on the floor, would the cr have the votes . I think the cr would have the votes, a clean cr, because we know theres 20 to 22 to 23 republicans out there. So hes lying. That would support that effort. Hes misrepresenting his caucus. Hes going back and sticking with the tea Party Faction of his caucus, even though theyre a minority. Hes empowering them. Congressman, you said this last week. Here it is. The gentleman from montana yesterday came to the floor and said its hurting the local economy. The gentleman from california came and said the towns around yosemite. Was he thinking about that when he voted originally to shut down the government . He was prepared to sacrifice the local economy. He was prepared to sacrifice the towns around yosemite when he was on a jihad against american citizens getting access to health care you regret those words at all, congressman . Not at all. What they were doing was saying unless you were prepared to repeal the obama care, they were prepared to shut down the government of the United States. And to put the economy put the economy into a tailspin and even threaten the debt limit of this country. And the point was this. The point was this. They have since now come to the floor and tried to relieve the pressure around the national parks, tried to relieve the pressure around the National Institutes of health. Try to make sure that they didnt know that they were going to be denying food to newborn, low birth weight babies. So the point of the matter is, they thought it was simple to shut down the government. And all of a sudden they had to focus on the reality. And the reality is very tough for them. So now theyre trying to do a patchwork opening of the government. Why dont they sit down, pass a clean cr until november 15th. We have we have 200 democrats that were going to sign that cr, bring us 18 republicans, and do your negotiations, but dont do it by holding the government hostage or the recipients of Government Services hostage. Congressman, what are the chances of a discharge petition . Well, the fact is, every discharge petition thats had 218 signatures has been brought to the floor. And the fact is, many instances, a discharge petitions with less than a majority have been brought to the floor. We have 200 democrats ready to rock and roll over this next week and signing a discharge petition. We know theres 22 republicans out there who have told us personally they want this over with, they want to get a bipartisan effort. Were making this opportunity available to them. And we hope that they will join us in that effort and we can restore the Economic Growth in this economy and we can restore sanity to the government. And who is the best democrat to knock on republican doors to get that done in the house . We all have different relations and weve all been talking to them and they have been talking to us. And you think its a chance you think its a real possibility . Those votes are there. If the leadership will free them. Okay. Thats the test. Congressman miller, great to have you with us tonight. I appreciate it. Thanks so much. Coming up, nbc news kicks off education nation. And we have an ed show exclusive with a remarkable young man. Still ahead, a florida mans random act of kindness is helping a classroom full of children this school year. But next, im taking your questions on ask ed live. Stay with us. Were right back. Twins. I didnt see them coming. I have obligations. Cute obligations, but obligations. I need to rethink the core of my portfolio. What i really need is sleep. Introducing the ishares core, Building Blocks for the heart of your portfolio. Find out why 9 out of 10 large professional investors choose ishares for their etfs. Ishares by blackrock. Call 1800ishares for a prospectus which includes investment objectives, risks, charges and expenses. Read and consider it carefully before investing. Risk includes possible loss of principal. You want a way to help minimize blood sugar spikes. Support heart health. And your immune system. Now theres new glucerna advance with three benefits in one. 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At this point if there is resolution between now and we default, im not quite im not really convinced that that will bother the republicans in 2014. They might lose a few seats, im not convinced they will lose the house over it. If we default, i think it could really destroy the republicans. But, you know what . This is not about political gain. This is about Serious Business about this country paying its bills and being able to function to give stability to its citizens. Stick around. Theres a lot more coming up on the ed show. Im sue herrera with your cnbc market wrap. Stock markets finishing at their lowest level in a month as that shutdown continues. The dow dropping 136 points. The s p falling 14. The nasdaq lost 37. Consumer borrowing rose 13. 6 billion in august due to an increase in car loans. And gas prices fell more than 13 cents over the last two weeks to 3. 38 a gallon. 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Today kicks off nbc news Fourth Annual education nation summit. Now, for the next two days, policymakers, business leaders, educators and students will gather here in new york city to participate in sessions exploring what it takes to achieve Student Success. Here on the ed show we fought against the widespread attack of teachers and education and how they are defunded around the country. A few months ago, i was fortunate enough to meet this young man, a shanjohnson when the board of education voted to close, this young man spoke up. At 9 years old, he made headlines, standing up to mayor rahm emanuel. You need to invest in these schools, not closing them. You should be supporting these schools, not closing them we are going to city hall. We are not toys. We are not going down without a fight after becoming an internet sensation, ashan and his family joined me at the Essence Festival in new orleans. No matter how big we make a difference, we all need to come together as united as one so he can hear the message that everybody in chicago, everyone thats when schools close, you need to come together as a unity to stop those School Closings wherever youre at. And then he joined our team in washington, d. C. For the 50th anniversary of Martin Luther kings march for a jobs and freedom march. Ashan was the youngest speaker at that event. Every child deserves a great education. Every school deserves equal funding and resources. He encourage all of you to keep dr. Martin luther king jr. s dream alive. All voices must be heard. I think he has taught this country a few moves. He taught me a few moves with the cupid shuffle. Im still getting comments on that, by the way there, big guy. Joining me now is ashan johnson and his mother, sean ease reynolds. We couldnt have education nation in this country without talking about the activism and the role that you have played and shining a light on exactly what is so terribly important in School Districts around the country and thats resources. What has it been like going back to school this year with that conversation about resources . Well, its been very sensational, because as you know, our schools stayed open, and every time i hear that everybody is saying every day, yes, our School Stayed open, the first day of school, my teacher was talking about how it was a very special year because our School Stayed open. So when we had our resources, we have our ipads now, and thats one of the resources we use a lot lately, because it helps us out with the stuff we need that we can do. And everything else. What has it been like for the students knowing that the school was saved . Well, its been pretty exciting for them. And they have been happy. Ive seen a lot of kids talk about i heard one of my friends and he said you know what, sean, it seemed like yesterday our school was closing and now its open, back open. Asean, let me ask you this. Ill go right to our intro tonight. What does it take to achieve Student Success . I want you to answer that question. What do you think it takes to achieve Student Success . Well, i think it means to achieve Student Success is to do your best, never give up, and always do your homework and stay on point of everything on everything you need to do for schoolwork. So youve got to be responsible. Nobody is going to give it to you, right . Yes. All right, seanice, an interesting ride, hasnt it . Yes, it has. What has really culminated from this, as you see it . I see a lot of youth standing up and fighting back for what they deserve. And thats resources. Im seeing a lot of students stand up all over chicago, all over the city, for what they deserve. And thats more resources in their schools. Im looking at the students organize and speaking about my school does not have these things. We need to get together and fight for these things. Im looking at walkouts, boy costs. The students in chicago boycotted the third day of school, because they felt that they wanted to be heard, and that the budget was going to be announced of them cutting 3,000 positions, 3,000 teaching positions. Im looking at students speak up and saying how they dont want to do art classes online. They dont want to do pe classes online. They want actual certified teachers instructing them in those classes. And what does it mean to have students speak up. Do you think its had a profound effect, the way the School Districts have been handled . I mean, theres still schools that have been shut down, and there are neighborhoods that have been deprived. But has this been somewhat of a turning point in the voice of those . Its been a turning point. They hear us. They hear us. We have been boycotting the meetings. Were having our own peoples meeting. Instead of going to the board meeting, because they dont listen to us in the board meetings, so we have our own peoples meeting where we elected a board so they can hear our issues. Because as you know n chicago, we do not have an elected school board. So thats one thing that we are pushing for. For people that we vote for to make those decisions. What do you think is the key to Student Success . I mean, this is youve got some of those influential people in the country here in new york having this big discussion, but yet it still comes down to the money. And if you dont financially support schools, how do you expect kids to have an opportunity to learn . Exactly. I work at different schools all over the city, and im looking at the disinvest in each school i go to from the north side to the south side to the west side to over east. And the schools are not equally funded. All students do not have the resources that asean might have at marcus garvey, versus a school right down the street. Were looking at a disinvestment in Public Schools all over the city of chicago and increase in charter schools. This is really waking up everyone with the 50 School Closings and the announcement of more new schools coming in, without investing in the schools already in existence. For Student Success, one, our students, especially in africanamerican community, they need to see someone like them. We dont have right now we make up less than 40 of the population of cps. But our educators are less than 20 and that 20 were less go. Most of those were highranking teachers so with the studentbased budgeting we have where they pay per pupil versus allocating a certain amount of funds to come to the school, a lot of teachers featuteaching f years were laid off and a lot of them were africanamerican teachers and latino teachers, as well. So were looking at a disinvestment, educators not looking like some of our students. And we need an elected school board. We need a school board that we can vote for, people that have our interests at heart and not the plan of the mayor. Fairness. Fairness. Thats what it comes down to. And the resources. We dont have a fair tax. And there can be absolutes in fairness. Yes. When it comes to the number of teachers, when it comes to teacher student ratio, resources in a classroom, there are some things that can be equally met. Yes. For every school district, for every portion of the city. All right. Now, earlier this summer, i asked you if you played football. And you said, yeah, im kind of all over the place. We dont have videotape of this, but im going to get this on my website. Im told you have to correct this report. I heard you made a big touchdown yesterday, so your team could make the playoffs. Ive got to hear narration of this. Well, yes. I did make a big touchdown. But that was in the first like the First Quarter of the game. Okay. It was after i got hit in my arm to my right arm. And after that it was a 47 it was a 47 flat. So that means he was going to set me in motion, i was going to run, grab the ball and then i was going to have two people blocking so one gets the outside man, and the other gets the corner. Okay. And that means if everybody else is blocking, that means everybody doing what theyre supposed to do. And it was a pretty good play, because when you can tell that their linebackers are going to blitz because you because you hear what they say. They say we say attack attack, but they have man over 20, man over 20. All the people were on the line. Three linebackers so they make them blitz in. So that was a pretty good play for us, because when you put it in motion, i got the ball and they were all blitzed in. But right when that happened, i got the man got off, he tackled me, tried to tackle me and then i broke off do you know anything about nbc sports . You really i think have a future there. 47 flat. Happy birthday, ten years old. Thanks for coming to new york. Thank you. Appreciate it so much. Coming up, Virginia Governor candidate Ken Cuccinelli lands in tonights pretenders for a photo op gone wrong. Stay with us. Susan ]. As though he had never left. The end. Lovely read susan. But isnt it time to turn the page on your cup of joe . Gevalia, or a cup of johan, is like losing yourself in a great book. May i read something . Yes, please. Of course. A rich, never bitter taste cup after cup. Net weight 340 grams. [ sighs ] [ chuckles ] [ announcer ] always rich, never bitter. Gevalia. Humans. Even when we cross our ts and dot our is, we still run into problems. Namely, other humans. 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Mr. Burton was in line at a Staples Store when he saw a woman with a shopping cart full of school supplies. Mr. Burton asked the woman if she was a school teacher. When she said yes, burton paid for everything in her cart. This gentleman, this Good Samaritan joins me tonight. Rodney burton. Great to have you with us tonight. Got to ask you. What was your motivation . What brought you to the point where you felt like you had to do this . And youre honorable for doing it. Its amazing how many School Teachers dig into their own pocket to make things happen in the classroom. What was your story on this . Well, ed, god was speaking to me that day while i was in staples. And he said theres someone in here that needs your help. And i kept thinking to myself who is he talking about . So as i was going down the aisle, i was looking into every cart i passed to get an idea of who i was supposed to be helping. As we got closer to the register, i noticed there was a lady in front of me that had a cart full of stuff. I thought thats got to be the person hes talking about. I asked her and said are you school teacher. She said yes. I said today is your lucky day. Im going to buy everything in your cart. She said but i have a lot of stuff in my cart. I said thats fine. Im going to pay for it. Do you have any connection to education . Anybody in your family or background . Have you heard the stories how teachers oftentimes fork money out of their pockets to make things happen in the classroom in. Yes, ive run into enough teachers to realize they spend their hard earned money and the fact they dont make that much as it is to make sure the school have the supplies in order to get the kids what they need. And to be honest, we dont even have any kids. So this is an investment to help others, you know, step up to the plate and pay it forward and just never understand that, you know, you have an opportunity that can change peoples lives. And teachers have that opportunity. They not only change the kids lives, but they can impact the parents lives by what they do day to day. Salary for a teacher in florida is less than 46,000 a year. A lot of teachers as i said dig into their own pocket. What do you think of that number . Is that being underpaid for the responsibility they have . Yes. I think thats truly underpaid. I think they should be the highest paid people out there for the simple fact that they give an opportunity to kids that may not have a lot, but they can actually change what they view in life and have the power to change the way people feel inside about education and about the growth in their lives. Mr. Burton, youve done