Transcripts for MSNBC Up With David Gura 20191228 14:30:00

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predicate of that by launching this missile, then i think, you know, we'll see whether trump is offended enough to say something that ends this process or whether he's willing to try to repackage it and say he can still do this given more time and more ability to deal directly with kim. >> ben rhodes, the president were a student of history, he may look back at what happened on the clinton administration. if if you look at john bolton, he may have leshd what happened with the clinton administration as well when talks were underway with other parties involved. how good is that analogy as we see it here? looking at the trajectory of this the blind faith that president had and there being new ground broken here and where we are today? it seems like you have the leader of north korea who is now taunting the u.s. and no real progress has been made. >> well, i mean, first of all, diplomacy is hard. you need verification. you can't just take the word of a kim jong-un. you need to verify that they're

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