Minutes later, it started getting particularly ugly. Reporter Graham Lee Brewer of the oklahoman was one of the official witnesses. He began kicking his feet, lifting his head and his chest off the gurney, grimacing, clenching his teeth, and a couple of months, he actually mumbled. At 6 39, a prison official said to witnesses, we are going to lower the blinds temporarily, and they did. It was clear at that point, to officials in attendance, that something was very, very wrong. After conferring with the ward, and unknown how much drugs that went into him, it was my decision at that time to stop the execution. According to an ap reporter in attendance, prison officials said they would try to get lockett to the hospital to resuscitate him. The man they were just moments ago trying to kill, well, they did not succeed in resuscitating him. At 7 06. Clayton lockett was declared dead. He died of a heart attack, 43 minutes after the drug was administered, a gruesome period of what can only be described as torture by incompetence. Although when you look at the full context of this execution, when you zoom back and take it all in, incompetence is far, far too gentle a term. Something more like sinister, insistent, willful malice is more apt. And no one is more central to that story of malice than republican governor mary fallin, who last night was forced to stay the execution of a second prisoner set to be executed that night. After she pushed and pushed to go ahead with last nights executions against all warnings and due process. Today, she promised an investigation into the botched execution she, herself, had so zealously advocated. After consulting further with the department of corrections director, robert patton, we greet that an independent review of the department of corrections procedures would be effective and also appropriate. The two men who were scheduled to be killed last night were found guilty of crimes so unspeakably horrible and repugnant, they deserve the harshest penalty a Humane Society metes out. Well, oklahoma, they have the Death Penalty and the state was intent on putting them to death. But heres the thing, oklahoma is having trouble finding the drugs to kill its inmates. Oklahoma had never before used the three chemicals in the combination it administered to lockett. All 32 Death Penalty states are struggling to find lethal injection drugs after suppliers said they no longer wanted any part of capital punishment. But undeterred, oklahoma, like many other states, has pressed on. Not only did they decide to experiment with a dosage and combination of drugs that had never been tried before, they passed a law in 2011, declaring they did not have to tell public or even the courts what drugs, in what dosages, they were using to kill their inmates. Earlier this year, lawyers for the two prisoners argued to an oklahoma judge, ruled the law was unconstitutional. Day successfully argued wednesday that lockett and warner have the right to know who makes oklahomas execution drugs and how reliable they are, to avoid a painful execution. An Oklahoma County district judge, patricia parish, ruled the states secrecy law, that hides all information about the execution drugs, is unconstitutional. Seems reasonable enough, that the public, and certainly, the prisoners themselves, should have the right to know, just exactly how the state is going to put them to death. Earlier this month, the oklahoma Supreme Court, the states highest civil court, issued an extremely rare stay of execution for the two men. Until the court could hold a hearing on the secrecy laws at issue. Well, republican governor mary fallin issued an executive order, saying, remarkably, she would go ahead and just ignore that courts ruling. And she ordered the execution to move forward. Then her republican allies in the legislature, they began to initiate impeachment proceedings against the five justices who had the gall to vote for that stay of execution. Within hours, that court changed court, reversing the lower courts ruling that found the states secrecy law unconstitutional, dissolving the stay of execution they had made earlier in the week. So mary fallin and her allies won, they ran roughshod over the states highest court, and all of that set the stage for last night. When the state of oklahoma so egregiously botched the act of killing they had pursued so vigorously. And governor fallin had to issue her on stay of execution, first for charles lockett, who died anyway, and one for warner, who was scheduled to die last night. So, yes, oklahoma, somethings wrong. And that goes for you, too, missouri and georgia, and any other state whos seeking to keep secret their experimental drug combination to carry out their killing. Theres something wrong with a government so intent on killing, and yet so worried about how it all looks. How the actual death will be meted out, they want to keep it all a secret and away from the publics prying eyes. Something is very wrong, indeed. Joining me now, katie fretland, a free lance reporter who witnessed the execution of Clayton Lockett and wrote about it for the guardian. Katie, what happened last night in that room . Clayton locketts execution began at 6 23 p. M. 7 minutes into its execution, he was still conscious. Three minutes later, he was pronounced to be unconscious, but three minutes after that, he began to violently convulsed. He strained i just what happened in that moment . I mean, youre sitting in the room, there are presumably a number of witnesses. Hes been pronounced unconscious. He begins to move. What is that like, what is the what are you thinking in that moment . That something is very wrong. I witnessed one execution before, but this was extremely deferent. He was covered in a white sheet, he was laying on the gurney. He began to strain and try to lift up off of the gurney. He lifted his head and shoulders. He grimaced. He tried to speak. At 6 39, he did speak. He said the word, man. He groaned, man, and then at that point, the ward decided to lower the blinds from the public witnesses view. What was going through the room of public witnesses when the blinds are lowered . What are you thinking at that moment . At that point, the state officials left the room. People they were trying to figure out what to do. The Corrections Department director got on the phone with the governor and the attorney generals office. He came back in and told us that the execution was not going ahead and that he was stopping the execution and the second scheduled execution of that night was not going to go forward. Were the victims family were the victims families in that room as well . They were seated in a room behind us, through a pane of glass where we could not see them. So they were seeing this all transpire as well . Yes, as well as Clayton Locketts attorneys. Two of them were left sitting in the room, not knowing if he was alive or dead. We didnt find out until later that it took 43 minutes from the start of his execution, for him to die. He suffered a heart attack. They stopped the execution after 16 minutes. He died of a heart attack 43 minutes after the first drugs began. Did they inform you, the prison officials, when they came back in to say they were suspending the execution, did they give you any information of what had happened . What drugs they had administered, in what doses, what was going wrong, where they were taking any of that . We didnt find out until later on. The Corrections Department director came across the street to speak with us in the media area and he told us that all three drugs were administered to Clayton Lockett, the execution did not go at all as planned. Am i correct that this was the first time that this specific drug protocol had ever been used by the state of oklahoma . Yes. In march, oklahoma changed its protocol to allow five different combinations five different ways that they could lethally inject someone. They couldnt get the drugs that they wanted to use. In this protocol, they used a completely untried dose of the drug medazalam to sedate Clayton Lockett, who was not sedated ten minutes into his execution. That was followed by two other drugs that were meant to paralyze him and then stop his heart. What was the reaction of mr. Locketts lawyers . Horror. They were horrified. They had no idea what was happening to their client as the blinds were closed. Reporter katie fretland, reporter for the guardian, thank you very much. I really appreciate it. Joining me now is brian stevenson, founder and executive director of the equal justice initiative, a Nonprofit Organization that provides legal representation, also professor at nyu school of law. What is going on with the administration of the Death Penalty in this country . Because what happened in oklahoma last night is an extreme case of a state essentially running an experiment on the convicts that they are executing, for the first time, but its not the only state that is essentially in the business now of experimenting with new drug protocols, with which to mete out the Death Penalty. Well, i think the Death Penalty is becoming increasingly perverse. I mean, when you have states doing what oklahoma has done, which is, essentially invoking the words, state secret, to describe how theyre going to execute prisoners, because they do not want scrutiny, they do not want to be accountable, they do not want transparency, you begin to see why so many of us have been arguing how the Death Penalty just brings out the worse in all of us. I mean, the bottom line here is that the question of the Death Penalty isnt answered simply by ask welcome do people deserve to die for the crimes theyve committed. Youve got to ask, do we deserve to kill . Are we going to be entirely sure that were not executing innocent people, as we have but stop for one second, brian. Because, basically, im an opponent of the Death Penalty and agree with you on all of that. I agree on the logistical arguments and the moral arguments. But just to zero in on what has brought us to this point of sort of horrific absurdity. There was a fairly standard threedrug protocol for lethal injection that had been used and upheld by the Supreme Court. That is no longer being administered. States can not get their hands on it. Why is that the case . What is the disruption thats happened . I think thats the point, chris. You cant disconnect these broader questions. The truth of it is, is that the states want to create executions that appear flawless, that appear painless, and you cannot do that with the kind of uncertainty that has been created by these drug combinations. We were getting drugs from europe. European manufacturers said, we dont want to have anymore role in this process. They then had to scramble. And then there were all of these questions. And what these lawyers have been arguing is that these officials dont know what theyre doing. They cant ensure that people arent going to be subjected to cruelty and torture. And i think that is part of the problem. You, then, add to that this desire to be tough, to seem as if youve got it all under control. Even having two executions in one night, as part of this instinct, to create a spectacle of toughness. And you put those two things together, uncertainty, unreliability, a lack of rigor, a lack of transparency, a lack of scrutiny, and then youre going to get the kind of cruel, barbaric, torturous execution that you saw last night in oklahoma. But you cant disconnect that from the broader questions. And not to mention that the absence of medical professionals in large part, because the american medical association, for very obvious reasons, having to do with the hippocratic oath, which first says, do no harm, wants nothing to do with the machinery of death as well. You also have, i mean, this stuck out to me. You have these states now scrambling to get their hands on drugs, so they can keep this going. The state of georgia obtained illegally exported subpotent drugs from a pharmacy run out of out of the back door of a rundown driving school in london, england. They used these in two executions before the dea raided georgias lethal injection drug supply. When you have dea raised going on to kind of uncover illegally obtained drugs in the possession of Corrections Departments, again you begin to see how this all plays out. But i think you have to understand, the culture that we have created around the Death Penalty. You had a ruling in this case, from a judge, that said that i believe that this process is unconstitutional. And yet the state was able to avoid dealing with the questions and findings of that judge, by simply pushing forward with an execution by intimidating judges, impeaching anybody who got in the way, and insisting on a process that would result in a dead body. And i think thats the question that we have to deal. Is this culture weve created that elevated this instinct to kill, even if were not doing it fairly, justly, or constitutionally. There were so many red lights that governor mary fallin and her allies ran through on the way to last nights horrific debacle. Thank you for your time, Bryan Stevenson . Youre welcome. Today, we know why it was the only choice the nba commissioner had. Up next, the incredible behind the scenes stories of what the Golden State Warriors were prepared to do if the nba didnt ban Donald Sterling for life. Os to remove makeup. And bright on schedule eye roller to instantly depuff. For instant beauty sleep, no sleep required. Oh the name your price tool you tell them how much you want to pay, and they help you find a policy that fits your budget. I told you to wear something comfortable this is a polyester blend whoa uh. Little help . I got you unh its so beautiful man should we Call Security . No, this is just getting good. 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There was palpable surprise yesterday at just how hard the nba dropped the hammer on clippers owner, Donald Sterling, after an investigation confirmed it was, in fact, sterlings voice on that now infamous audio recording in which he spouts all kind of racist nonsense. But in the 24 hours since the announcement, its pretty clear this was less about nba commissioner adam silver ruling with an iron fist, than it was about the leagues players collectively mobilizing to exert their will. According to the San Jose Mercury news, the warriors had planned to go through with their pregame warmups last night, take part in the national anthem, and then take the floor for the jump ball, and then once the ball was in the air, they were going to just walk off. All 15 of them. If they had their way, the clippers would have joined them in exiting the court. Again, tnt sideline reporter David Aldridge says all the teams scheduled to play last night were willing to just walk off the court. Reporter in addition, they believe that they had commitments from the other four teams, they thought they had commitments to not play to tonight. The power move that was in motion last night by the players was particularly ironic when you take a listen, again, to this passage from that same infamous taped conversation with Donald Sterling. Do you know that you have a whole team thats black, that plays for you . I support them and give them food and clothes and cars and houses. Who gives it to them . Does someone else give it to them . Do i know that i have who makes the game . Do i make the game or do they make the game . Is there 30 owners, that created the league . Do i make the game or do they make the game . Are there 30 owners that created the league . It was a rhetorical question, and Donald Sterling seemed confident in that conversation of the answer. It was, in fact, he and his fellow owners that make the game. But were discovering in the reporting that came after sterlings lifetime ban is that if the players act as one, then they, actually, are the ones that call the shots. Joining me now, marcus thompson, sports columnist for bay area news group, who reported this story in the San Jose Mercury news, and bomonte jones, coanchor of espn 2s highly questionable. Marcus, great reporting on this. How much communication was there between the players . How much organizing was happening in the day or two after the tape comes out, leading up to silvers announcement yesterday . For a while, they were just trying to focus on basketball. But, you know, all those reports started coming, and all the expectations that it would just be an indefinite suspension. And you start getting those grumblings about the owners really couldnt do anything. I think that really kind of got to them. You know, it put them on the side of, we have to do something. If this guy comes out with some soft punishment, then were going to do something. So i think it was more like about saturday, sunday, they were just trying to play basketball. But come monday, they were like, were ready to go something if this thing doesnt go how it works. And the warriors had their plan concocted tuesday morning. Bomonte, you have been, to your credit on the Donald Sterling racism beat for a while. Eight years at the very least. This is a 2006 piece on Donald Sterlings racism should be news, is the headline. Youre saying that piece got more traffic yesterday and the day before than it got ten times as much traffic as when you actually published it . That was a bit of hyperbole, but ive gotten a lot more feedback on that than i got in 2006. I can tell you that. Its been interesting, as this thing happened with sterling, people are suddenly looking at it and wondering, how did it get to this point. People are wondering, wait a minute, he was doing crazy stuff beforehand and nobody did anything about it . And i think that kind of contributed to the narrative of the story that we have now. Was that how Common People keep talking about, this was an open secret and people kind of news, and there was the elgin baylor lawsuit, an africanamerican former player who sued sterling when he was working the front office in that clippers organization, a lawsuit that was ultimately dismissed. How common was sterlings personal views and also what his Business Practices have been. Hes widely considered to be a slum lord. Theres no one you can find that did not know that around the nba. That has generally been the perception, there have been stories written about him about how aloof he is and problematic. But with the racism, people knew about this. I havent found anybody covering the nba that didnt have a general knowledge or understanding about the way Donald Sterling felt about people who were not white. He didnt hide it. And his first question for rowy massmino, was, how are you going to coach these nwords. And thats why hes hired so many black coaches up and down the line, because he knew how to talk to the nwords. Marcus, how much of that, just the sort of scandalousness of the contemptibility of what was represented was what was driving the kind of radicalization, i think, of the players over the course of these two, three days, as they start to think theres not going to be punishment. And start to really put together a plan that would have been i mean, if they had done that on that night, one of the most iconic moments in sports, in labor history, that i can think of in the last, you know, 20 years, even longer. Oh, yeah, no question. That would have been a modern version of, you know, carlos and smith at the olympics. They were trying to make history. They were trying to send a statement, create this image that we would have seen 20 years from now, to look back on. I think the salaciousness of it all is the fact that he could come out and say this, and this gets out. Its no longer a dark secret. And for no one to respond, that bothered them. Just so he can be out and say this, this is how he feels, about the majority of the nba, and then we all go acting like basketball resumes. Thats what really was getting to him. I talked to a few players who are like, as long as silver did the right thing, were fine. But if they were going to let this go and slap us in the face, and youve got to remember, this was the same group that just took a 7 pay cut that got locked out by these same owners, who lord knows what the other 29 are saying behind closed doors. Same owners, and theyre talking about an age limit increase. So its not like the relationship has always been harmonious, but you start adding stuff on top of this and they feel like theyre giving money back, and theres all these fines and the way the game is being governed. And then on top of that, you let a guy come out and say this about them, i dont think they were going to stand for that. And the fact that it just came out. You know, it was a dark secret, like bomoni said, it came out. But once it came out, it was humiliating to let it go. These are millionaires with pride and ego. Bomani, do you think this will be a turning point in the labor relations, after what was a threatened wildcat strike effectively moving nba policy. Lets see. And the question becomes, how does it get turned. The tenor of that lockout and the media surrounding and it twa those players were battered by those covering them. People openly questioning them about if they understood how every day was costs them money. For them to stand at that moment, has something changed with this union. Like saying is, were not going to take it. But a bunch of rich guys generally say, okay, well just work out things civilly. Marcus thompson from the bay area news group, bomani jones from espn 2s highly questionable, thank you both. Coming up, given what you know about Chris Christie, how do you think hed react if some budget bureaucrat told him his numbers didnt add up . The full christie unleashed on a guy what happened to be right, that story ahead. I attack ideas, i dont attack people. And some very good people have some very bad ideas. If theres one thing Supreme CourtJustice Antonin Scalia is known for, it is his impatience with idiots. Sloppy thinking, errors of logic, do not bring those in front of justice scalia. What about of eighth amendment . I have to give you an example. You wont understand the difference. Can you define the market . Everybody has to buy food, sooner or later, so you define the market as food, therefore everybodys in the market. Therefore you can make people by broccoli. Thats my view and it happens to be correct. Victims of the acid tongue of scalia must have been having a pretty good chuckle today when it was revealed that scalia himself had committed a, quote, hugely embarrassing, cringeworthy blunder in one of his latest dissents. At issue, was whether the Environmental Protection agency could regulate coal pollution across state lines. The court found it could, while scalia, of course, dissented. At one point writing, quote, this is not the first time the epa has sought to convert the Clean Air Act into a mandate for costeffective regulation. The only problem with that, the apa argued the exact opposite in that case. Quote, the agency was defending its refusal to consider cost as a counterweight to Health Benefits when setting certain air quality standards. It was the trucking industry, the ore side of the case, that want d the epa to factor in cost. On top of that, the epa won the case with the court ruling unanimously in favor of the agency in 2001. You dont have to consider cost. And you know who wrote that decision . Justice antonin scalia. You know, just a week ago. The conservative media was eviscerating Justice Sonia sotomayor for her personal and eloquent dissent in the affirmative action case, referring to her opinion as, quote, legally illiterate and logically indefensible. So we eagerly await them taking the rhetorical brick bat to their idol, scalia. I had to do something. I saw my doctor. A blood test showed it was low testosterone, not age. We talked about axiron the only underarm low t treatment that can restore t levels to normal in about two weeks in most men. Axiron is not for use in women or anyone younger than 18 or men with prostate or breast cancer. 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For the second year in a row, i propose a constitutionally balanced budget. Yes, ill with able to balance the budget and no were not going to raise taxes. Today, i present to you a budget that once again is balanced. The Democratic Legislature decided it was time to go back to the future, to revert to more of the same unrealistic, fantasy budgeting. In addition to touting his balanced budgets, christie was found of railing against new jersey democrats fantasy budgeting. Now the christie shortfall is becoming evident, you may wonder, who could have possibly predicted the shortfall, when christie was drawing up a budget two years ago, prior to his reelection campaign, who could have predicted that revenues would not be what christie said they would be . This guy did. David rosen. Hes the chief budget officer of the office of legislative services. New jerseys version of the nonpartisan congressional budget office. Rosen predicted back in 2012 that christie would end up with a 145 million hole in his then currentyear budget and would come up 392 million short on his revenue projections for the next year. So what did governor christie do . He unleashed full Chris Christie wrath. So they needed to call in the dr. Kevorkian of the numbers. David rosen, the dr. Kevorkian, from the partisan office of legislative services. Why would anybody with a functioning brain believe this guy . How often do you have to be wrong to finally be dismissed . Let me read that again. Why would anybody with a functioning brain believe this guy . How often do you have to be wrong to finally be dismissed . And the numbers began to come in, and while they werent quite as bad as rosen predicted, christie attacked rosen again saying, man, the guy cant get it right. But days later, the Christie Administration informed potential wall Street Investors in a bond offering that, actually, there would be lower than expected revenue. In the end, after two fiscal years had passed, rosen was exactly right, prompting richard coater to state, looks like dr. Kevorkian is alive and well and 100 correct. For christie, the budget shortfall may be as bad a fiscal sin as it gets. Joining me now, burt murphy. This rosen guy, whats his reputation in new jersey politics . Hes been there, i realize today, i got an award o with a group of people on a quiz ball team when i was in high school. He was still in his job back then. Hes been doing this for many decades. And i think one of the more offensive things to people who work in that office of legislative services isnt so much the kevorkian comment, its christie saying, the partisan office of legislative services. They regard themselves as being really above partisanship, very trustworthy, able to deal with both sides. So to them, that, like, is an attack on the very core of what they do. And thats fairly unprecedented. My sense from talking to people and reading the coverage of this is that people basically respect the office and respect rosen. This is not a guy that becomes a rhetorical punching bag for everybody all the time. Sure. And no governor has agreed with their of course. Has wanted to agree with what they say. No one has done what christie has done, has come out and made this one person who cannot fight back. Who cannot come out and defend himself. And if democrats come out and defend him at this point, it adds ammunition to what christie is charging. Its dumping on him in an absentia and hes right weve been told this is a fact of the change of the law at the end of 2012 by the Obama Administration and the congress to increase tax rates on url level individuals. Remember that the top 1 in this state pays 40 of the income tax. So when you start to make changes, theyre going to change their behavior. Treasury departments all over the country understandpointed the effect that raising those tax rates would have on those peoples conduct. Does that fly to you . It would, except for the fact that jersey knowingly predicted growth rates that were higher than any other state in the country. Jersey has a very sticky, very high lingering Unemployment Rate from the recession. So there was no way that the numbers that they were putting up yeah, for the christie budget numbers to work, new jersey was going to have to grow at the fastest rate of any state in the union. Am i correct about that . Yes. We would have seen postworld war ii growth rates that would have to be aided by large fiscal programs that do not exist in the modern age in the united states. In other words, you could tell if you scratched the numbers, they were hooey, back before any tax increases happened. And everyone was saying that they were hooey back then, except no one really, in the political environment of jersey, everybody was intimidated by christie. No one could call him on it. Plus, on top of this, hes got all of this sandy federal money flowing in. Which wasnt predicted, because these projections were made before sandy. And he had done all the gimmicks to pick all the lowhanging fruits he could do to balance his budget in earlier years. Hes got to squeeze this for 800 million. Hes got bigger problems than that. They owe 2. 4 million in a pension payment next year. Apparently, hes going to try to push that off for another year and try to do the 1. 6 billion one east supposed to do this year. Do that in the following year. And then call the savings from that a surplus. And then hes going to go to iowa and say, yeah, my staff starts traffic jams out of political vendettas and i cant balance my budget. Im your next republican gubernatorial president ial candidate. Msnbc contributor, brian murphy, thank you. Thank you. A scandal and coverup at some of americas most prized institutions. The shocking truth, ahead. The shocking truth, ahead. One out of five women will be sexually assaulted while in college. Coming up, ill talk to valerie jarrett, Senior Adviser to president obama, about guidelines that the white house released yesterday to help survivors and improve the way schools handle cases. They just change boots. Thats why we made the allnew jeep cherokee. With an exclusive 9speed transmission and 31 miles per gallon highway. So you can keep going. Im almost done. [ male announcer ] now you can pay your bill. Manage your appointments. [ dog barks ]. And check your connection status. Anytime, anywhere. [ dog growls ] oh. So youre protesting . Okay. [ male announcer ] introducing xfinity my account. Available on any device. Considering that 19 or nearly 1 in 5 undergraduate women experience attempted or completed Sexual Assault while in college, the white house released guidelines yesterday on how to best combat what can surely be called a Sexual Assault epidemic on College Campuses. The 20page report put together by a task force the president formed in january appears to be a pretty good first step in doing that. Some of the recommendations include allowing survivors to speak confidentially with a trained advocate instead of forcing the student to, quote, report all the details of an incident to school officials. What this does is ensure these crimes remain confidential, and according to the report, it makes survivors more likely to move forward with a formal complaint or cooperate with an investigation. And students will be asked anonymously about Sexual Assaults in order to gauge the prevalence of the crime on campus. It is intended to provide a better measure of the problem, since Sexual Assault on College Campuses is notoriously underreported. According to a 2005 report, by the u. S. Department of justice, 95 of campus Sexual Assaults are not reported. Yesterday, i had a chance to speak with valerie jarrett, Senior Adviser to the president , just hours after the white house released their recommendations on how to combat Sexual Assault on College Campuses. Joining me now, valle jarrett, Senior Adviser to president barack obama. Valerie, what was it that prompted the creation of this task force and the report that came out today . Well, as the president said when he announced the task force, theres more that we can do to end Sexual Violence on our campuses. One in five women are sexually assaulted while in college and more often than not, it happens their freshman or sophomore years. So theres still more work to do, and the president was determined that the federal government, in partnership with stakeholders around the country, should Work Together to come up with a series of recommendations, and thats what we announced today. It strikes me, this is an area in which the president would have a considerable amount of force from the perspective of bully pulpit. It seems to me that were able to call the president s of 20 major universities into the white house and say, you guys need to shape up, because i have looked at the data, and it is shocking. It is shocking to everyone who looks at it, everyone who has someone going to one of those schools, every donor and alma mater. It seems to me that the president could have actually quite a bit of influence in this area. We essential think he does. And as a matter of fact, we had over 80 college and University President s here in town several months ago, when we were working with them, to see how we could expand opportunities for disadvantaged young people, to go to college, and while they were here, i met with them and i said, this is an issue we care a great deal about. The president is going to sign a president ial memorandum, directing us to spend 90 days, coming up with new recommendations. They were certainly on notice this was coming. But i have to tell you, we were heartened to see how many colleges and universities did step up to the plate, who are going to voluntarily participate in our survey that we are recommending, that they do, who want to engage with us and who are looking for solutions. But there are certainly those who have not. Who have tried to sweep this issue under the rug and who have not taken their responsibility for our young people seriously. The president often says, you know, having a child is like having your heart Walking Around outside of your body. And when you turn that heart over to an institution, you expect that its going to use everyone in its tool kit to try to make sure your children are safe. And we still have a lot of hard work to do. And the plain facts from all of the reporting weve seen, this pertains to my alma mater, this pertains to Big College Football schools, to small liberal arts institutions, is that there is an institutional bias towards keeping things in the internal disciplinary process as opposed to reporting to Law Enforcement. It seems to me that is a major fundamental hurdle that has to be cleared. Well, its a hurdle not just because of the attitude of the universities, but oftentimes the victims are hesitant to come forward. More often than not, its somebody that the victim knows. More often than not, the victims will feel a certain sense of initial responsibility and did they do something wrong, which is why it is so important to make sure that the people who first interact with the victim, whether theyre Law Enforcement, whether theyre people in the hospitals, are trained to understand just the psychological damage that comes from this experience. It was heartening, today, to see this amazing young woman, madeleine smith, stand up and talk about the experience that she had. And you know, any parent who heard her would say, this should not happen. Not on any college campus. And so, i think what we have here, today, chris, is an opportunity. An opportunity to, as you said, for the president to put a real spotlight on an issue and to encourage colleges and universities to recognize that participating in this survey, which were asking them to do voluntarily now, will tell us what, you know, whats the prevalence of Sexual Assault on campuses. Whats the attitude about it . Whats the awareness. And those are the first steps understanding what we have to do to end it. So were starting out with a voluntary survey, but we intend in 2016 to make it mandatory, because we want every College University to be sharing information, because right now, what will happen, for those who come forward and do participate, the information will be transparent. But we dont want to put them at a disadvantage for participating towards solving the problem. We want everybody to be transparent. Were going to do so from the federal government. Were going to be as transparent as we can about all the information that we have. And thats how were going to actually combat and end this. Theres a lot of federal money that flows to these universities and colleges, i would add, as well. Senior adviser to president obama, valerie jarrett, thank you so much for your time. Its really important. Thank you, chris. Imagine having to attend classes next to the person that sexually assaulted you. Its happening. More on that, ahead. Some of the most elite, prestigious institutions in the entire nation finds themselves increasingly the subject of very ugly press coverage. Right now at my alma mater, brown university, a young man who was disciplined by the university for the crime of rape and who was suspended for a year is now being allowed to attend the university alongside his accuser. As a result of the rape, the survivor says she was forced to take a medical leave of absence, telling the brown daily herald, i lost my one semester of freedom, the same semester the rapist is allowed to come back and matriculate here at brown. At columbia, students filed complaints with the federal government, accusing systemic complaints of mishandling of Sexual Assault. One student wrote a letter, dear harvard, i am letting you know i give up. I will not longer receive emails from me, asking for something to be done, pleading for someone to hear me, my assailant will remain unpunished and life on this campus will continue its course as if nothing happened. We should also be Pay Attention to some of the most cherished liberal institutions who seem to be in the business of systemically mishandling Sexual Assault cases as well. Joining me now, laura dunn, survivor of campus Sexual Assault, now an activist, started an Organization Called serve justice, and worked with the white house as they were putting together their recommendation. Laura, thank you. What did you encounter at your university when you tried to report what had happened to you . Back in my freshman year of college, i did become a Sexual Assault victim. Two men assaulted me, and like many victims, i actually stayed silent at first. I didnt know to talk about what had happened to me. I blamed myself too much. And it took over a year for me to even know that college had a process for me to come forward. And when i did, i actually did find, originally, a college that was supportive, someone who wanted to get me support, counseling. But when i asked for enforcement, when i asked for a consequence for what had been done to me, thats when i actually entered into the hostile environment that title 9 is meant to address. Colleges that are unwilling to assist victims. Well, i mean, i should read first the statement for university of wisconsin, madison, which gave us this today, saying the department of educations office of civil rights found the University Acted appropriately within an established law of due process guidelines and victim support standards for investigating and responding to allegations of Sexual Assault, specifically in your case. When you say a hostile environment, what did you encounter . Well, for one thing, one of the young men that had sexually assaulted me, because there were two, had a nocontact directive. And he approached me at a party. I tried to walk away into different rooms and avoid him at all cost, because i didnt want anyone to know that i was taking action about a Sexual Assault. And he ended up approaching me and threatening me openly and hitting the walls around my head and when i told the university, they told me i should have walked away, i should have called the police, that that was my police. Thats what i mean by hostile environment. How is it not criminal, how is it not just an absolute violation of everything the universitys own codes are, to not involve Law Enforcement or to not have this outside some internal disciplinary process . I mean, a nocontact order seems like insufficient accountability for the crime of Sexual Assault. I agree, but in this case, i had actually reported to campus police, at the university of wisconsin, the police are actually both sworn officers and campus officials. So i did pursue both criminal and civil, and whats unfortunate, that many people arent realizing, the reason campuses are dealing with this issue is because the criminal Justice System also has flaws. The violence against women act found that back in 1994 when this was passed. Vice President Biden even spoke to this. We are systemically failing Sexual Assault victims. We are saying that it is their fault. Not just on campuses, but also in our courtrooms. And we need to change both. How common, in your work now, as an activist, on this issue, how common are stories like yours . I mean, how often do you hear from young women who are, and i imagine young men as well, actually, who are sexually assaulted on campus and find themselves sort of shepherded into internal disciplinary processes that amount to very little . The vast majority of survivors share that. And i know back in 2010, the center more public integrity, who first shared my story nationally, did a significant study that found that the majority of reports did not end in favor of the victim. And the ones that did, even still had meaningless consequences. So it is the norm. I represent survivors who never got justice criminally, civilly, or through the campus process. We are the majority of survivors. It is stunning, having spent some time reporting on what happened in the catholic churching with having spent some time looking at what happened at penn state, the lesson there is that if you keep judicial processes completely internal to institution, you will produce we reliably systemic injustice. Its just shocking to me that this is the case in the year 2014 at campuses across the country, some of the most prestigious brands in all of american higher education. Laura dunn, thank you for coming on and sharing your story. I really appreciate it. Thank you, appreciate it. That is all in for this evening. The Rachel Maddow show starts now. Good evening, rachel. Good evening, chris. Thanks, man. And thanks to you at home for joining us this hour. This is the coliseum, the ancient coliseum in rome. Famous for gladiator combat, famous for staged combat between wild beasts, brought in from the far corners of the world to fight for the entertainment of the romans. Famous, of course, for public executions, also staged for the entertainment of romes leaders and romes citizens. The roman coliseum, at least most of it, is Still Standing today, in rome, 2,000 years after it was built