Says donald trump is hiding. He cant afford to selffinance no matter what he says. And the next great documentary series youll be hooked on. What we did that day is created an illusion. We made him blacker. The director behind o. J. Made in america when all in starts right now. Good evening from new york. Im chris hayes and there is a lot going on tonight. And theres been a lot going on all week. So at this hour we are waiting for donald trump to emerge in that richmond, virginia, auditorium for his First Campaign rally since Hillary Clinton effectively clinched the democratic nomination. That arena holds about 12,000 and its got about 2,000 in it, a very sparse crowd by the donald trump standard. This is a hugely important moment for trump who continues to come under sustained fire from major figures in the Republican Party even as Top Democrats are in the process of unifying around their presumptive nominee. Clinton met with senator Elizabeth Warren for over an hour today. Thats warren leaving clintons house this morning in washington, d. C. One day after president obama, Vice President warren Vice President biden and warren all endorsed clinton with warren and biden unleashing absolutely scorching attacks against trump in the process. Meanwhile, trump is absorbing more shots from his Party Leadership with Senate Majority leader Mitch Mcconnell refusing to rile out rescinding his endorsement of trump and stating, this is a fantastic quote, its pretty obvious he doesnt know a lot about the issues. House Speaker Paul Ryan today said he personally reprimanded trump over his remarks about the federal court judge overseeing one of the several lawsuits against Trump University for fraud. Which ryan has called the textbook definition of a racist comment. And former gop president ial nominee mitt romney will not go away and will not stop haunting trump. He said just a short time ago that he worries that trump effectively creates racism. I dont want to see trickledown racism. I dont want to see a president of the United States saying things which change the character of the generations of americans that are following. President s have an impact on the nature of our nation. And trickledown racism, trickledown bigotry, trickledown misogyny, all these things are extraordinarily dangerous to the heart and character of america. Trump this afternoon courted evangelicals, the faith and Freedom Coalition conference in washington, where he caught to counter claims that he is racist. Freedom of any kind means no one should be judged by their race or their color and the color of their skin should not be judged that way. Trump also told the Washington Post he is the least racist person. Pointing as evidence to an endorsement from boxing promoter don king. Now don king knows racism probably better than anybody. Hes not endorsing a racist, okay . But even as donald trump seeks to break with the words and deeds of, well, donald trump, from definitely days ago, some members of his party seem to be embracing the incendiary rhetoric that is of course a core part of trumps success and appeal. Republican senator david purdue of georgia today faced a flurry of democratic outrage for this comment at the faith and freedom conference. I think were called to pray for our country, for our leaders, and yes, even our president in his role as president. I think we should pray for barack obama. I think we need to be very specific about how we pray. We should pray like psalms 109 8 says, let his days be few. And let another have his office. Now psalms 109 8 has become a meme, appearing on tshirts, bumper stickers and billboards as far back as 2009. Its been called a secret christian code for kill the president. Thats probably a little overheated. But heres the thing, the passage specifically cited reads let his days be few and let another take his office. The passage that follows in that saul many, let his children are fatherless and his wife a widow, let his children be vagabonds and beg, let them seek their bread out of their desolate places, let the extortioner catch all that he hath, let there be none to extend mercy unto him, let there be none to favor outside fatherless children. He in no way wishes harm towards our president and everyone in the room understood that. As one republican was clarifying his position on wishing for the president s death, another representative, duncan hunter, describing his potential successor in remarkably sexist terms. I dont care about personality. And by the way, if i had to go on personality, i would still go with trump over Hillary Clinton. She is a shrill, loud person. If i wanted to vote for my grandmother, id vote for Hillary Clinton. Joining me, Washington Post katherine renpel, pollster cornell belcher, president of corners research and strategies. Monitoring the speech am richmo richmond, virginia. The crowd is not as large which is something to talk about. Lets start, to me this was the hunter thing and the purdue thing, its easy to stoke up outrage over things politicians say and i dont necessarily want to do that. What i want to do is focus on the fact that this idea of, where did donald trump come from . That has bewildered republicans . Who begat him . Right. Mitt romney today, i think what mitt romney said is correct, this is an underrated reason that donald trump is bad, that its sort of a coarsening of our public discourse, if people are so crude all the time thats going to be bad for the country in the long run, if the president says racist things other people will too. The thing is mitt romney went to Donald Trumps hotel in las vegas four years ago to accept his endorsement for president. He said it was a delight to be there with donald trump. He said donald trump had been more successful in business than him. This is after trump had spent months running around the country talking about how the president s birth certificate was a forgery and he was really born in kenya. So this stuff was foreseeable at the time. And romney i think failed to appreciate or did not care that donald trump was fomenting racism. Now he understands it. I dont want to hit romney too hard because i think he gets it now gut butt he didnt get it then. I think its not so topdown. I agree we look to political leaders for some set of setting an example, whatever. But if you look at the poll data and you look at what republicans actually believe, a solid majority of them think we should build a wall, think we should keep out muslims, think we should scrutinize more heavily muslims who are already here, dont think that the comments about the judge were racist. So it doesnt really seem to be so in tension with what the base believes. What josh is talking about with mitt romneys relationship with donald trump if 2012, this wanting to sort of get the people that support him without sort of fully embracing him but kind of keeping him at arms length, if you look at the endorsement he looks like a hostage video, like there are certain days you thought youd never see happen ask this is one of them, which is a very neutral statement about whether hes happy to be there. Then the exact same thing with Mitch Mcconnell and paul ryan right now, cornell . By the way, the term trickledown racism is my new favorite thing of alltimes. Its a good term coming from him, yes. Its a really good term. The republicans are now having to deal with the seeds that they planted. This is their harvest. And it is true that you do have a large swath of the base of the Republican Party who are anxious racially. And the election of president obama built up some of that anxiety about the a changing america. Everyone is shocked. No one is shocked except the Republican Leadership who have been part and parcel of this. But the other piece of this i think is fascinating, i think its an important moment here is, that the term racist is now being mainstreamed by on both the left and the right. When you have republicans the last republican standard bearer calling the now republican standard bearer basically a racist. This is a fascinating thing. Because racism other than the n word, there may not be a more powerful word in our language than to lay racism at someone. Theyre basically saying their nominee is racist. And i think thats a fascinating thing. I agree with you. In fact, theres a great piece in the hill today josh was treating did, hadden freud de, saying other republicans are mad at paul ryan for using that word in describing Donald Trumps manifestly racist statement. Not because they think hes wrong but because its very incren. The press comes to republicans and say, do you agree with paul ryan that this was a racist statement . All of them are trying to do this dance. Ryans chosen to do the dance by saying, it was racist but i still support him. Whereas republican in the senate seem to be mostly trying to not answer the question of whether it was racist or not. Or gas light it, no, he never said those things, he didnt mean that. Sean spicer today gets up and rnc spokesperson, tip your cap to sean who has a very, very, very difficult job. But he basically tried to gas light, tried to men in black it, he basically was like, oh, no, he wasnt referring to the judges heritage. Donald trump literally said his heritage is mexican. He said, he cant be undiced against he because his heritage is mexican. He wasnt just saying, these are some attributes of this judge. He was saying, this is why he is at fault. Electorally, this is the problem. You have smart people now talking about the house might be in play because you may have a sea change election because what barack obama did in 2008 and 2012 was win moderate voters. Win that moderate middle swath of the american electorate. You know what the moderate middle swath of white voters in america dont want to be associated with . Racists. In fact, this is something that has been a key part of republican politics for a long time is whatever you know, people call it whatever racial an mulls that is in their voters that they feel is useful to stoke has to be done in ways that dont just advertise oneself as a racist because racism is rightly something that in its sort of identifiable way viewed stigmatized, properly. Polling now shows a majority of republican respondents say they dont think Donald Trumps comments were racist. 65 . Of republicans. Everyone else says it is, right. I suspect thats mostly about, in general when you poll partisans about the candidate of their party, theyll defend them. Right. So i think if you took it out of context, if it was some celebrity who said this, maybe more would say its racist require think a lot of white voters are sick of hearing about racism. Yes. I wonder exactly how this is going to play. Because the comments are so extreme that i think some of them look at it and go, no, this is actually racist. But i think a lot of people, especially republicans get in their bunker even more, yeah. Its a very good point. Katherine, josh, cornell, stick around if thats all right. Because were going to continue to watch the event in virginia where donald trump is about to hold his first rally of the general election era, essentially. We will bring you that when it happens. And then just ahead, the most feminist speech ever given by a major Party President ial nominee its fair to say happened today, Hillary Clinton at planned parenthood, taking it to trump yet again. First this is mark cuba on why hes going after donald trump and why cuban says trump doesnt want you to know about his finances. My interview with mark cuban next. [ guitar playing ] ugh. Heartburn. Sorry maam. No burning here. Try new alkaseltzer heartburn relief gummies. They work fast and dont taste chalky. Mmmm. Incredible. Looks tasty. You dont have heartburn. New alkaseltzer heartburn relief gummies. Enjoy the relief. And free hot breakfast. I but our best amenity is samantha. Free wifi, free hot breakfast and free smiles. Get up to 20 percent off as a Hilton Hhonors member at hampton. Com. Whithats obscene greed. Ple cant get it. Ggilead charges over 1,000 for toone hepa itidinner . S. May i be excused . Get the new xfinity tv app and for the First Time Ever stream live tv, watch on demand, and download your dvr shows anywhere. Keeping our eyes on richmond, virginia, the who shot you see there, the arena sits 12,000 people and there are 2,000 inside, lots and lots of empty seats. Donald trump is currently running late for his First Campaign rally since Hillary Clinton effectively clinched the democratic president ial nomination. Donald trumps fellow rich guy reality star mark cuban has had a long, complicated relationship with the presumptive nominee. Hes had a lot to say about trump, questioning his net worth, predicting hell have to golf to gop donors. Today the businessman and Dallas Mavericks owner was here in new york and i got a chance to talk with him. Youve been talking about donald trump. You have an interesting relationship. He called you recently . Is that right . Actually, he emailed me this last time. Emailed you, like whats your deal . Cut it out . He doesnt email. So i get an email from his assistance with a piece of paper thats scanned with his comments on it. And he said, what happened . What does that just because i he feels youre being unfair to him because youre being negative . Hes got one of my quotes about him on his book, you know. So things have change the. So thats what i told him. Whats changed . Why are you obviously youre a public figure, we see you, its not like youre a shrinking violet. Right. Youre in the public anyway. Why are you doing this . Why are you giving interviews about donald trump . You know i care about whats going on. And i think i have a different perspective than most people, right, from a wealth perspective, from a business perspective. Im an independent, im not affiliated with any party. So i just wanted to bring a different set of lenses to him. You told Fortune Magazine that we were asking the wrong questions about donald trump. Right. What are the right ones, according to you . Donald is driven by cash. Anybody can claim whatever net worth they want and tax returns dont really say anything. I mean, he might have one year where he sold a lot of stock, made a lot of money. Other years where he didnt need the cash, right . Theyre not really a reflection of anything. But cash is cash. Right . You cant fake it. You cant fake it on an fec filing. He tried to fake his fec file is as much as he could, and maybe hell get in trouble for that, he tried to count as income rentals revenues and thats not income. Right. But cash is cash, right . And so i just went and took about 15 minutes and added it all up. And it mostly is 165 million. Which is great, by any standard, thats a lot of money. But when youre trying to finance a president ial campaign, thats nothing. This is a really key point. He does not right now hes stuck betwixt and between, right . Because he basically ran what was kind of a con about selffunding. No, it wasnt a con at all. He lent himself the money . Lend, you cant take it all back. It was legit. Hes getting a fair amount of money in. He was also getting donations. Right. The point is what you are saying is the man is not sitting on enough liquidity to be able to selffund a campaign for president . Without question, and he knows it. Right . And thats why youre seeing him trying to adjust his perspective, right . Adjust what hes saying. So you know what, now maybe i need some help from the Republican National committee. Because he does. He cant afford to selffinance, no matter what he says. There was two pieces out, wall street journal and usa today, about his habit of stiffing folks. Right . And were talking penny ante stuff. A contractor does 20,000 worth of work, carpenter. What do you make of that . Is that a thing people do . No, you dont do that. Do you do that . No, i would be embarrassed if i did that. Ive sued literally because i was mad, ive sued two people, right . Ive had lawsuits filed against my companies, right, a lot of crazy ones. But no, im not litigious at all, i avoid lawsuits. If i was going to try to protect him, give that perspective, maybe he has people running these companies, maybe he has people doing these things, and theyre taking his without his snnlg. Yeah, so give him that. But more likely thats just who he is, right . He wants to fight. And my experience there is about 12 years ago i had a terrible tv show called the benefactor on television, right . It was abe. Part of the pitch they wanted me to say was, look, donald trump, i can spend more money than you have and not even know its gone. Right . He got all crazy and all wild, right . And his lawyers got in touch with me. So weird. For nine different reasons. But continue. Hey, look, it is what it is, right . And his lawyers got in touch with me, were going to sue you if you dont stop i said, look, make it public, give me your bank statements, ill give mine, well see. Never heard back. Part of me thinks donald trump is just revealing the fact that all of you, meaning all of americas superwealthy people park street guys. Are maniacs. Im serious. I guess persuade me otherwise. That basically this is like in the same way people say, hes revealing the Republican Party for what it is. Maybe all these people that make a huge amount of money if you say that again im going to sue you for everything you have right . Am i wrong . Youre wrong. Theres something distinct about this guy . Absolutely. I know a lot of wealthy people, people ive done business with. The only thing that changed as we got wealthier was our bank accounts. Interview my high school buddies, college buddies, my friends from dallas i am skeptical of that claim, i have to say. Go for it, feel free. I am who i am. That may be true about you no, my partner todd wagner whos a billionaire, i mean, i can give you a long list of people that ive met. Maybe you think that personal disposition, whether its you are who you are. Right . And if youre one of the people that changed because of money . You had that problem before you got wealthy. Right . If you were an idiot, if you were not a nice person before you were rich . Cruel, sadistic, a bull whatever it is, thats who you are, and maybe to a greater extreme. Mark cuban, really a pleasure. Appreciate it, chris. Donald trump is expected to arrive at this richmond, virginia, event moments from now. His first rally since Top Democrats including the president of the United States come out to endorse his opponent Hillary Clinton and launch an onslaught against trump. Well bring you his response when he takes the stage shortly. Using 60,000 points from my chase ink card i bought all the fruit. Veggies. And herbs needed to create a popup pickyourown juice bar in the middle of the city, so now everyone knows. We have some of the freshest juice in town. 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Back to the days when abortion was illegal, women had far fewer options, and life for too many women and girls was limited. Well, donald, those days are over. Still with me, katherine, josh, cornell. Katherine, it has been interesting to watch the Clinton Campaign find a relationship to their candidates own sort of historymaking and also her gender and her vision for women increasingly as eve gotten in the general, it feels theyre embracing it in a way i havent seep them do it before. Playing the woman card. Yes. Many copies of the woman card. It does certainly seem that way. I think thats partly because theyre realizing theres so much enthusiasm amongst women voters, particularly middleaged, older women voters, less so the bernie crowd. Theres a lot of enthusiasm. I was looking at data earlier today by open secrets, i dont know if you saw this on political donations, and Hillary Clinton has the highest share of donations given to a president ial candidate of a major party coming from women on record. And the on the record, donald trump has the lowest share of donations coming from women on record. So theres a lot of polarization along general lines and maybe she realizes its worth embracing that. The splits here are, if im not mistaken, i think mitt romney won all women by sorry, won white women by i think 5 points. Lost the election. And donald trump is underwater by 20 points or so right now. But i dont think hes underwater over 20 points among white women. And thats the important key. Right. I think if you go back early on, a lot of democrats would argue hillary would need as much as the Obama Coalition because shes going to do clearly better among women. That hasnt necessarily borne out in the polling thus far. I think what you see now is them making a play for that. Look, its special. No one at this stage as a nominee has been able to give voice to womens issues the way that she can, shes going to be able to do that. So i think you do take advantage of that. I think the speech she did today was very much in line with giving a unique voice and speaking truth to power on womens issues in a way no nominee for that office has ever been able to do. I think shes smart to take advantage of it. If she can in fact if she can do inroads among white women, its going to be a blowout. Also on a substantive level, what i find fascinating is look, these parties have polarized profoundly along the issues of reproductive choice. This is something which its fairly recent, actually. The parties have been as polarized as they are. Theres a party of opposition to abortion, theres a party of abortion rights, and that you cant really get very far in either party if you are not in line with that. But it also is clear that like donald trump doesnt seem to care, particularly. Like his comments to Chris Matthews look more kneejerk than anything. He changed his position on abortion like nine times in three daze or something. And it used to be prochoice. When he floated proudly prochoice. Very prochoice. You could say this about any number of issues that donald trump doesnt deeply care about them. He is in this campaign committed to a set of positions. What i found odd about this speech was this line she uses about donald trump will take us back. Because i feel like thats what democrats always say about the republican nominee. And its a fair enough argument that it activates democrats. But there is what you miss in that is that donald trump is a really weird nominee who might do different, worse things than a normal republican nominee would do. Maybe he wont take us back, hell take us forward into some awful, unthinkable future. Like nuclear winter. Right, things that do not reflect what the country was like 25 years ago, even if we prefer now to 25 years ago. Have you read the road . Right, it undersells donald trump to use these standard lines. I think theres something to that, particularly talking about him in this specific context. Not when youre talking about his comments veels a vee women in which i think hes the perfect foil because of the things hes said that are blatantly sexist and theres so much evidence. On this specific issue, its unclear what he believes in, whether he cares one way or another. I think why hillary uses this line, and shes used it in a bunch of recent speeches about going backwards, it specifically speaks to what is supposed to be appealing about trump, i. E. , his slogan, lets make America Great again. Again. Which implies there was a past period in time in which america was not only better but great. For whom was it great . Was it great for women . Hm. Was it great for minorities . Not really sure. If you play that up and remind people about the downsides of this period that his team is looking through rosecolored glasses at, then maybe that will relevance nate. Cornell, i want to play this to you. This is Hillary Clinton at the speech today talking about reproductive freedom, take a listen. Everything i have seen has convinced me that life is freer, fairer, healthier, safer, and far more humane when women are empowered to make their own Reproductive Health decisions. Heres the thing about that. I think this is one of these issues where im very uncynical about this issue. I think the two parties largely have the positions they do because they largely believe the positions they say they believe. Which is to say that i dont think theres a gaming here about, this is a political advantage for us. I think in the case of the right, they genuinely hate abortion, want to see it made illegal. I think in the case of the Democratic Party, they genuinely cherish reproductive selfdetermination. And i think that in some ways its sort of the politics be damned on this issue. Two things. One is the language she uses is really important there. That language doesnt necessarily ignite a conversation about abortion, right . Shes not using the term abortion because none of us are for abortion, right . The ideal of womens Reproductive Health and empowering women. Its really important language that shes using there to speak to women. And youre right, i mean, you talk most democrats, most democrats are, in fact, prochoice. And you have a hard time winning a democratic primary if in fact youre not prochoice because youre on the wrong side of the issues. I want to go back for a moment to the prior conversation about trump. And youre talking about the issues and how trump is not necessarily in place on issues. When you have a republican primary last time around the nominee was attacked because he wasnt conservative enough. So you now have a guy whos been a democrat at one time, a republican, prochoice, antichoice. He doesnt know the bible at all. He fundamentally fails almost every test of conservatism. And thats what and now hes the nominee of their party. He is a phenomenon that i would argue, you know, it boils down to make America Great again because hes feeding right into that variable that trumps all of those, no pun intended, and that is the racial animosity that you see at those rallies, racial animosity you see bubbling up in certain parts of this party. He is not by any stretch of the imagination in line with most conservative views. He went to go Court Evangelicals today. And of course he very famously and clumsily has courted them in the past when he talked to cal t thomas about who jesus is, hilarious answer. Something about beheadings . Jesus is a guy whos there for me was basically it. Great courage and strength. Yeah. But ralph reid, lis ning to ralph reid, why you should vote for him if youre evangelical, is hilarious. I want to play that later on. Stay with us, were hearing donald trump is still en route to his richmond, virginia, rally. He was expected to be there at 8 00 p. M. Eastern. Well continue to monitor it. More, including Elizabeth Warrens antitrump strategy, after the break. The suv that dares to go beyond utility. This is the pursuit of perfection. When a moment turns romantic why pause to take a pill . Or stop to find a bathroom . Cialis for daily use is approved to treat both erectile dysfunction and the urinary symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently, day or night. Tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medicines, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. 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Were not looking for a political messiah. Because we already have a messiah. We dont need to find one in the political arena. You see, we understand that perfection is not the measure that should be applied, not only to any political leader, but to any man or woman. Because in all of recorded history there has only been one perfect person who walked on this earth. And he wasnt a candidate and he wasnt a political figure. His name was jesus christ. That was ralph reid, founder and chair of the faith and Freedom Coalition, speaking at their annual Conference Ahead of donald trump. Right now were waiting for trump to take the stage in richmond, virginia, for this first rally since Elizabeth Warren, president obama, Vice President biden, and other key democrats united behind Hillary Clinton for the nomination. Heres why i love that ralph reid sound. The argument is, its a great argument, we dont need donald trump to be perfect because all humans are imperfect. The only perfect person was jesus christ. Once you go down from jesus christ its basically a flat level of complete imperfection amongst all human beings, ergo, trumps our guy. Yeah, and the amazing thing is not all evangelical conservatives have sold out in this way. I think the split is really fascinating. There are a lot of people who take their religion very seriously and say, this guy is a charlatan, hes bad for social conservatives and everybody else. Their leadership has been very different. Their political leadership. Exactly. You have someone like Russell Moore at the Southern Baptist convention who is really fundamentally there to be a thought leader, not to be a political figure. He can say, this guy is awful. Ralph reid, whos really a politician, is getting in line because thats what the politicians do. There has to be a picture of ralph reid ageing in a closet in an attic somewhere, basically. That guy looks exactly the same as 20 years ago. Cornell, one of the most interesting pieces of polling data from the primary was that Weekly Church attendance is one of the best predictors of antitrump voting in the primary. Now thats different than the evangelicals, trump used to say i want evangelicals and that is true. A lot of people call themselves evangelicals who are not Weekly Church attenders. People who attend Church Weekly were pretty trumpskeptical. No, that is actually a really important polling point. I dont even look at those who say evangelicals anymore. It is those who are in church three, four times a week. Those are thats a better sort of indicator of religiosity, especially looking at polling throughout the south where everyones evangelical, right . Everybody calls themselves that. If you look and even sort of africanamericans versus white evangelicals, look, if you show me an africanamerican woman whos in church three times a week and you show me a white woman in the south whos in church three times a week, im going to show you two people who are politically very, very different. So religiosity takes them to two very different places, whether its the new bible or the old one. But their relidge yolsty and values take them to two very different places. It will be interesting to see how this plays out in the general election. As you know, democrats have not done very well with strong faith and religious voters in the past couple of elections and republicans have run up the numbers with those. And its really important in some of these southern states. And does that put a state like georgia, north carolina, even in more play if you cannot hold on to that religious right . Were right now Donald Trumps being introduced in richmond, virginia. Well take a quick break. 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Everybody kind of gets under his skin. Thats true. If you know which parts of the skin to poke at, hes going to jab back. But yes, she has been very effective as an attack dog. And has been a good spokesperson and surrogate for Hillary Clinton, considering it took her so long to endorse Hillary Clinton. I thought the speech was funny because she talks about donald trump going after this judge. And basically says donald trump is getting this from Mitch Mcconnell, its part of the broader republican pattern of disrespecting the judiciary connecting it to the fact youre right, the context is theyve blocked all these judges, theyre blocking a curt judicial nominee for the supreme court. Yeah, and its like its a good piece of political rhetoric. It is not true. Like the reason donald trump is going after this judge is donald trump is thinskinned and has a bad personality and gets mad when anyone stands in his way, it has nothing to do with what Mitch Mcconnell is up to. I thought it was clever the way she tied it around to political trumps whole schtick is he cant be controlled by the republican elites. If you find a way to connect him to whatever the elites agenda is, thats pretty damning. The key point to me here, this plays to a certain extent in senate race chis thought that both joe biden yesterday and Elizabeth Warren, it is very easy i blame myself for this because i have a tv show and i have lost sight of this. Youve got this guy who is duly nominated by the president of the United States with 300 days left in his term to fill a vacancy on the supreme court, to is being stonewalled in a way that is historically without precedent. Not only that. The seat is being held open for the man who spent a week with racist rants against a sitting federal judge to name his replacement. To say that the Democrat Senatorial Campaign committee isnt enthusiastic about this outcome is to underplay it. It is a big deal. Its fundamentally going to help democrats position themselves against republicans in senate races where you dont have a gerrymandered district like we do on the congressional side where you have to run statewide. And look, i think most people, if youre betting, youre betting that donald trump really does hurt republicans up and down the ticket. Particularly at these statewide races. Where youre going to see greater turnout of a more diverse electorate. The point about Elizabeth Warren, what youre seeing right now with Elizabeth Warren is in fact the most effective attacker in the Democratic Party right now. No one is a more effective attacker and no one has better bona fides in the grassroots left right now than Elizabeth Warren right now. And that she owns. She has a certain star power among democrats. For the metric we have here, we look at ratings every day, it was clear last night, she is a draw. She is a very significant draw. People wanting to hear what she has to say. And her also i think doing a good job, what josh said, i sort of agree in the sense that one didnt cause the other. I think his rant against the judge is because he happened to be in san diego, which is where the judge is and where the court the where the case is. But her point about sort of trying to connect the difficulty i think for the democrats is theyve got this guy who so clearly is so different in certain ways. At least in temperament and experience as the other rest of the Republican Party. Yet he embodies certain parts of the Republican Party in telling his story about the party as a whole is the challenge if you can taint the rest of the party you can taint the downballot people as well who are worried about being affiliated with donald trump. That can be very effective. Cornell, a polling question. It has always been my sense action, back covering these fights as a print reporter at the nation magazine, particularly during the bush administration, just this sunday and the sort of events around judges, that judges are little jams going in the richmond auditorium. Either 1990s vintage basketball or donald trump is taking the stage. It appears to be the latter. As he approaches the stage it will be interesting to see if he wings it, stump speech style, or he returns to the muchmaligned, muchdenigrated teleprompter he used for, in the words of the Clinton Campaign, lowenergy speech the other night. Josh, prediction . I dont so he they dont seem to be set up. So far he gave a very boring speech earlier today that was on script. I think hes actually rattled by what happened this week and the negative reaction he got. Its areas for him to stay on message in a speech than in an interview. I think so far hes been managing. There is a reason for so long its this idea of him defying political gravitity. As Mitch Mcconnell said, ill take boring. Theres a reason a lot of politicians choose to be boring. Lets give a listen to what donald trump in his first speech, first rally, since basically the beginningful the general election, has to say. But i know all about richmond. You know, we set this up yesterday. Weve had one day and look at this. I mean, its amazing. Well, thank you, everybody. Thank you. Were going to bring jobs back to america, remember that. Jobs back. No more games. Were playing games. This country of ours is playing games and theyre not smart games. So i want to thank everybody. I want to thank the folks from richmo richmond. Heres the story. I have a lot of property, a lot of employees. I think some of them are here. Wheres kerry . We have the vin yard. Its the largest vineyard on the east coast. And i dont drink. I dont drink, can you believe it . But its the largest there she is. Hello, kerry. Are we doing well . Weve got a lot of employees, how many employees . 110 . Thats a lot, right . Thats a lot. Thats great. Youre doing a fantastic job. So its in charlottesville, the trump vineyard. And i dont know if you want to try and come up here. Come up here, kerry. What the hell, we have all night. Then in louden county, you know louden county, i have a great club. Where are those people . Look at them. Louden county. On the potomac river. One of the most beautiful clubs youve ever seen. And one of the best golf courses anywhere in the world. And it is beautiful. And i think were going to take the press over there someday. Were going to do a News Conference on the potomac river. Okay . All right . Well bring them over. So i want to talk to you couple of things. First of all, where is she . Shes so unbelievable. What a job. What a job. So i want to talk to you. Its been an amazing period of time for all of us. Because its a movement. I mean, think of it. We sayed, lets do this, because we were in the area. What does that mean . The area means i was a half an hour away by air going 600 miles an hour. So i wouldnt call that the area. But its sort of the area, right . And i said, lets do it in richmond. We had the arena, lets do it in richmond. And we did it in richmond. So thats cool. Got to win. Weve got to win the state of virginia and this whole thing with the prisoners, i dont know, kerry. This whole thing with the pressers in, not sounding too good, right . Where murderers can vote and all these people can vote. I dont think so. I dont know. Doesnt sound good. Hopefully the court will act quickly. 200,000 people and many of these people, look, its not supposed to be the way it works. Its one of those things. Kerry, you run our facility, tell them about the facility, go ahead. In one minute. Well, honestly, more than the winery i want to tell them about you and what an amazing boss you are. More than a boss, a true leader. And really, you cant run and have so many Successful Companies just by being a boss. Your leadership and vision is just what this country needs to be great again. Thank you, kerry. She does an amazing job. What a great job she does. So we started a year ago, 12 months. And when i came in i was told by all of the pundits, youre wasting your time. This is the finest group of republican talent ever assembled. So i figured what chance do i have . What chance . And it worked out good, right . It worked out good. And were doing well, ill tell you. The polls are looking good in virginia by the way. Looking good in virginia. Got to win. Very important. Im going to be here a lot. Do you mind . Over the next five months im going to be here a lot. Its true, though. Im heading down to florida. We have a massive crowd tomorrow in florida. Were heading down there. And were going to be in tampa. And great place, tampa. And i said, lets stop on the way down. Thats why were here. And i appreciate everybody coming out on such short notice. We love you, richmond. We love you, virginia. We love you. So we began the journey and i came down the escalator, you remember, with melania. And since then its been incredible. And we started where we did very well in iowa. Should have won iowa but one of those things. Something happened there. But we won New Hampshire. And then we just kept winning and winning and winning. We won a lot. I think it ended up 37 states. Think of it. Most importantly, we had more votes. I say we. This is like a movement, folks. This is something thats very serious. And you know one thing thats a little bit embarrassing but well take it. Whatever it takes, right . They say that theyre polling very well, but theyre always adding 5 , 7 , 9 . They say, a lot of people dont say theyre going to vote for trump, but when they get in the booth they vote for trump. Be proud of it, folks. Be proud of it. Its true. You know, i didnt know, way is supposed to be happy or insult saturday then you have the opposite effect. A lot of people, you know, they run and theyre stiffs. Theyre stiffs. And people all want to say its politically correct. Yes, im going to vote for soandso. They call ate certain effect. Took place in california. But its the opposite. Where they poll high. So i always poll low. Because people dont want to say it. But you know, the biggest person in california called me up the other day. And he said, i think youre going to win california. I dont know, frankly, the republicans dont Even Campaign in california. But i go there, we get tremendous we had 31,000 people two weeks ago. 31,000. We have crowds that are so incredible. So they said, you know, i think you can win. Every liberal in los angeles is going to vote for you. This is one of the biggest guys, movie guys. He said, im a liberal. Every friend i have is voting for you. They never talk about it. Do we care . We dont care, right . Just make sure. Remember, you so we started and ill never forget New Hampshire. Im going to make a big speech in New Hampshire on monday, by the way. Its going to be called the Hillary Clinton something or the crooked hillary speech. So honest. You see the 250,000 she got today . She got 250,000 was just reported by abc. Congratulations, abc. But she just got 250,000 and some guy gets a position to do with nuclear, okay, give me a break. Theres so much corruption. Theres so much going on. And this josh earnest yesterday said criminal investigation. He wasnt supposed to say that. But if the system works, shes really not allowed to run, folks. The system. You know what . I want to run against her badly. But its really unfair no, its really unfair to other people. Its so unfair to other people who did 10 of what she did and they ended up destroying their lives. Okay . Its very unfair. We appear to have lost the feed in richmond, virginia. What do you know. I wonder what divine intervention that was. Donald trump appearing sans teleprompter for the first time in a little bit, a little while. The speech today was fairly restrained and on message, the speech he gave on tuesday night in front of a teleprompter. He brought a woman who runs his winery, i guess, up to introduce him. He talked about crooked hillary. But its funny. Just watching that little snapshot, trying to be freewheeling but also not insulting, its harder than it looks. Those have been two sides of the same coin. Its not that hard for other people. But maybe for trump. Although he was hitting it there. This story about the guy who got put on this Nuclear Board looks very bad for Hillary Clinton. Clinton donor, right. Its a perfectly fair hit and one of the frustrations republicans have had with donald trump is in addition to drawing attention to his own racist comments hes been sort of ignoring things like the inspector generals report about Hillary Clinton, her email use, things that are handed to him that he can attack her with that he doesnt talk about because hes such a narcissist, he almost talks about himself. At least this time he attacked her on the right thing to attack her on. I would agree, but look where it happened. It was 10, 15 minutes into the speech. Just as not even being partisan, someone whos worked on two president ial campaigns, my heads exploding as he rambles on talking about, oh, im going to be doing a speech in New Hampshire in a couple of days. And im doing so well in the polls. What . What message are you driving . And also, and also touting and marketing his businesses. He starts with, weve got a great course here, its on the potomac is. Weve got this winery. Here, talk about the winery, come up here. I mean, sometimes there is some part of me that thinks part of this is about cultivating the brand and image. I mean, look, clearly the guy wants to be president. But yeah, cornell. This is the thing that has republicans tearing their hair out. Fundamentally, i think theyre all pretty much morally neutral. I think Mitch Mcconnell said, the party of lincoln wants to win. Like when he was confronted by chuck todd, the party of lincoln is endorsing an outright racist. He said, the party of lincoln wans to win. If trump is polling up 10 points theyll forget all the problems they have with him. Right now what is driving them crazy more than any moral offense they take is sheer political incompetencies displays. The remarkable thing is were starting to get poll in the last couple of days but up to that point the republican freakout was happening before any polling evidence that this was actually hurting donald trump with voters. Donald trump said a lot of things back in the summer and fall that people thought were going to destroy him that didnt affect him that much. This time the republican freakout preceded the polls. Maybe it was just about predicting the polls. I think people were genuinely offended by what he said. Even with that i think that is true but even that being the case, it is striking to say people talk about downballot effects. So far polling has Hillary Clinton with a consistent 4 to 5point lead. Shes not opened up some huge 15point its a relatively close in the general scheme of things, even though its a robust lead insofar as has been shown time and time again in poll after poll. Katherine, josh, cornell, thanks for hanging out tonight. Assure. Of course. That is all in for this evening and for the week. The Rachel Maddow show starts right now. Theres no chance you were seen with an ax near that cable . Theres a rumor round here. Didnt we see chris hayes with a hatchet . I was trying to play it straight. Its all right, ax man, i know how these things work. Happy weekend, chris. Thanks to you at home for joining this hour. Todays news was dominated by of course the daylong funeral for the greatest boxer of alltime. One of the greatest ever icons of american culture, muhammad ali today eulogized by former president bill clinton and by Billy Crystal and brian gumbal. Theres not another person on earth that could attract a guest list. Karzai, former president of