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If you want to list things to worry about, he said his father the president is surrounded by 37 appeasers. Yes, he means people who just tell trump what they think he wants to hear, where the family gives him the right direction. What a perfect definition of a country run by a royal family, again, on the russian model, the romanovs, a bad example of having it all and blowing it. And thats hardball for now. Thanks for being with us. All in with chris hayes starts right now. Tonight on all in. You had a, you know, someone as despicable as hitler, who didnt even sink to the to using Chemical Weapons. Communication breakdown. To draw any comparison to the hol oh cost was inappropriate. From Foreign Policy to the basics of governing, new signs of confusion and chaos in an understaffed white house. Then donald trump, as part of an investigation into potential links between russian intelligence and the Trump Campaign. More on this story coming up. But this comes as the Trump Administration is reeling from yet another selfinflicted wound tonight. You know its bad when the president s Press Secretary is standing in front of the white house apologizing for what he said about hitler earlier in the day. This episode just the latest evidence of an administration that does not appear at a very basic level to know what its doing. And as the president has been inserting himself into some of the most highstakes global issues, launching an attack on Syrian Government forces and tweeting about the solving the problem of a nuclear north korea, Trumps Administration is having trouble getting out of its own way. The sean spicer fiasco began with comments he made at todays Press Briefing about syrian dictator Bashar Al Assads use of Chemical Weapons. We didnt use Chemical Weapons in world war ii. You know, you had a you know, people to festivities on the south lawn. This year, according to the new york times, the white house is struggling to pull it off. The event is this coming monday. But according to the times, Washington Area Public Schools that normally receive blocks of tickets for as many as 4,000 children have yet to hear from the white house. Likewise, several groups representing Military Families who have also accounted for as many as 3,000 guests in recent years, the same group of people doing a shoddy job of running the administration, it is those same people that are conducting Foreign Policy in overseeing the most powerful military in the history of the world. Today the kmantder in chief took to twitter to address north Koreas Nuclear program. Quote, i explained to the president of china that a trade deal with the u. S. Would be far better for them if they solved the north korea problem. North korea is looking for trouble. If china decides to help, that would be great. If not, we will solve the problem without them. Usa. This comes as north korean state media warn the nation would carry out a Nuclear Strike if provoekzed by the u. S. Meanwhile Secretary Of State Rex Tillerson was at a Foreign Ministers where he asked a question that left his colleagues befuddled. Quote, why should u. S. Taxpayers be interested in ukraine . Im joined by colonel wilkerson. Colonel, lets start with the hitler comment, which we dont have to talk about the sort of trajectory of the historical clumsiness and apology. But, to me, what was striking is that this was pretty clearly a talking point. The president himself in interviews talking about the worst mass murderers havent used Chemical Weapons in this way, which is the kind of rhetoric you normally association with justifications for escalation into a military conflict. Im very concerned by that very aspect of it. Let me just say that i think scott spicer is kept around because he makes donald trump look good. I wouldnt expect him to depart on that basis alone. The white house is looking so bad that scott spicer actually makes our president look good. With regard to some of the remarks about the more visible threats in the world, north korea being preeminent perhaps right now, from what secretary tillerson has said, from what the president has said, from what allegedly transpired in florida with president xi, i see so much rank amateurism at work here, just your remarks about the easter ceremony and no one being notified, its clearly indicative of a white house that not only is low on people, its low on experience and talent. They cant seem to even manage the grounds of the white house let alone such significant issues as russia and syria and north korea and on and on. One challenge has been just simple coordination on what acy the syria policy is, and it does seem today that they approached something closer to a consensus. You had Secretary Of State mattis saying this was about Chemical Weapons and reinforcing the sort of taboo and norm and International Law against them. The president sort of basically saying Something Like that as well. Do you feel like theyve arrived at some Coherent Policy On Syria . I certainly hope so. But lets just look at some of the things theyve been saying, chris. Theyve been trying to blame russia, for example, for irresponsibility in the disruption of syrias Chemical Weapons stocks. Im sorry. The United States army and its contractors destroyed 600 metric tons in 42 days of cw stocks. The opcw and the United Nations were responsible for that. As far as i can tell, they did a pretty thorough job. So why blame russia . They dont even know their facts. Now, syria might have kept some sarin, some vx, or some other chemicals aside. Theres no doubt they could have done that. But this is ridiculous. The inexpertise, the amateurism, i remember very vividly how this happened with the Bush Administration in the first term when dick cheney was more or less running everything, and no one knew what was going to come out until dick had made up his mind. This was very disconcerting for our allies. Well, at least mr. Cheney was competent, experienced, and an extremely good bureau craft. This is amateurism, and amateurism looks to the world just like what it is amateurism. Colonel, do you think that theres any danger now of escalation in syria if, for instance, theres evidence of more Chemical Weapons attacks, that essentially a lines been drawn that has to now be backed up no matter what . I think we can take mr. Putin at his word. There are going to be, i think he said, more fake chemical attacks. I dont take that as disingenuously as maybe other americans do because i have seen no intelligence that convinces me that the provenance of those attacks in Idlib Province was in fact the Syrian Government. So im really worried about this. And i know, chris, that were already committing forces in syria that the we werent committing before. The Rules Of Engagement have changed. You may have seen above the faux left side, Washington Post front page this morning, you had active duty army actually saying that the changed Rules Of Engagement are killing more civilians around mosul and other places. Again, i dont see any coherence developing here even though i understand the military is in charge of the strategy. I really dont see coherence yet. Conel Lawrence Wilkerson, thank you. Thank you. Joining me now, katrina vander hooven, and former congressman david jolly. Katrina, you know, theres this line that eric trump said, and ive now seen conservatives repeat it, which is, well, look, the syria strike proves that trump is not tied or overly sympathetic to russia. And one wonders whether they now perceive that theres political upside in increasing escalation with russia as a sort of means of producing some sort of domestic political effect with regards to the Ongoing Investigation there. Let me flip that if i could. Colonel wilkerson made a very important point about the importance of the 2013 diplomatic agreement to dismantle Chemical Weapons in syria, chris. Youve been tweeting about that. I think its important because president obama spoke of the playbook in washington among the Foreign Policy establishment. That playbook assigns credibility to use of military force. President obama pushed back against a discredited Foreign Policy establishment. But now that diplomatic agreement is being castigated, dismissed, by even obama supporters. I think its unhealthy. I think Lawrence Wilkerson also made a good point that what was the rush . Weve seen horrific, heinous Chemical Weapons attacks in syria before. Why not an independent investigation of the source of those attacks . Why not a present to congress or the United Nations . In terms of russia let me stop you there because Lawrence Wilkerson said this. I have seen people calling into the question whether the Chemical Weapons were in fact from the assad regime. Afp was on the scene fairly quickly after the first reporters that i saw get there who had pretty consistent eyewitness accounts of an airplane flying over. Im saying there should have been an independent investigation before the rush because what youre witnessing is and put aside what the trump sons are saying. I do think there could have been a targeting of domestic critics. What were faced with tonight is that we are probably closer to war than we have been since the cuban missile crisis. The prime minister, who is the most prowestern in that putin government, said after the syrian strikes, we are on the verge of military clashes. I think this country needs to wake up. Were talking about sean spicer factionalization in this administration, which is surfacing and is very difficult to understand. Were witnessing an escalation in yemen, in somalia, an escalation of counterterrorism strikes, an escalation of killing of civilians, and im worried about a catastrophic Collision Course this administration. And think of those who are applauding the syria strike, chris. To me, a disastrous presidency, one of its worst acts possibly was syria strikes and you heard these pundits applauding. Sanity is needed. Common sense. David, that brings me to this question. One of the things in the Republican Party, there was a Central Civil War about this posture towards foreign intervention, particularly along the lines of, say, enforcing a Chemical Weapons ban. And donald trump won by repudiating the bush legacy. He did. Very explicitly. I think and you tell me. I think thats still where the base of the Republican Party is in their heart. I think theyre conflicted, yes. Look, the president has zero credibility. Nobody is suggesting that he has credibility on this issue. But the question as to whether or not he made the right dis, i would push back a little bit on katrina. It did receive both affirmation of both democrats and republicans. Chris, i went down to the syrian border. I visited a refugee camp from the children to the adults. Families wanted to go home. There was a father before i left who said, how are you going to help . How are you going to help . Chris, i didnt have an answer. But, david, its not through bombs. Think of the hypocrisy of a president saying hes anguished looking at those civilian casualties when he wont even let those listen to the father who had to bury his twins. Explain to the father who had to bury his twins why we shouldnt intervene and try to prevent that from happening. I mean let me just say this. Two things. One, there is no answer to that father, whether that airfield is struck or not. So Lets Be Clear about theres no incremental progress made for that father. And as for answering that question, which is a very difficult moral one, there are a lot of fathers in a lot of other places including in yemen right now who would like to see the u. S. Play a role different than the one it is. Katrina and david, thank you. You got it. Still ahead, more on that Breaking News i mentioned earlier. The fbi was granted a fisa warrant to monitor the communications of Trump Adviser Carter Page last summer as part of an investigation into possible ties to russian agents. More on that development after this twominute break. I would always answer hispanic. So when i got my ancestry dna results it was a shocker. Ieverything. Im from all nations. 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Because we should fit into your life, not the other way around. Go to xfinity. Com myaccount Breaking News tonight. The Washington Post is reporting that the fbi obtained a Fisa Warrant Last year to monitor former Trump Adviser Carter Page. Quote, the fbi and the Justice Department obtained the warrant targeting carter pages communications after convincing a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court judge there was probable cause to believe this is the key part page was acting as an agent of a foreign power, in this case russia, according to officials. This appears to be the first confirmation that a fisa warrant was in fact approved to investigate contacts between russian intelligence and trump associates. Joining me now, Phillip Rucker and julian sanchez, a senior fellow at the kaddo institute. Julian, let me start with you and then ill come to you, phillip. Fisa is intended to spy on or surveil foreign intelligence . So theres supposed to be a fairly high bar to actually target an american citizen and not just incidentally sweep them up, that right . Theres actually two different sets of standards for getting a warrant that depend on whether the target is a u. S. Person or not. If its a foreigner, essentially if theyre working for a foreign government, thats more or less enough. For a u. S. Person, its not enough to show that theyre in the employ of a foreign government. You have to show theyre engaged in clandestine intelligence activities and doing so knowingly. So it wouldnt be enough even if he had been unwittingly recruited as an asset. So the obvious question is what is the evidence they had that he was engaged in that kind of conduct and then how did someone who might have been engaged in that conduct end up as one of a relatively small number of Foreign Policy advisers to the Trump Campaign . Thats key here. Phillip, the reason this reporting is so important is weve had stories floating around about possible fisas, and two different british outlets have both had the story. This is the first sort of Big American Outlet to nail down this story and nail down a target for it. Thats right, and it only nails down one target. Its this Gentleman Carter page who was an adviser for some time on the Trump Campaign. The Trump Officials would contest that and say he wasnt a formal adviser but he did play a role in helping shape the Foreign Policy. I should also note that when he sat down with your fine paper and the now president of the United States was asked to name Foreign Policy advisers, out of his lips came the name carter page, comma, phd. Thats correct. And the significance here is carter page is somebody who has a long history in russia. He lived in moscow. He worked in business in russia, and the u. S. Government felt strongly enough that there was some suspicions there that they were worried he was acting on behalf of russia in dealing with the Trump Campaign and dealing his communications back and forth, that it was enough to warrant this warrant. This is also the individual, we should note, who recently was revealed in fbi Charging Documents in the Southern District of new york had contact with foreign intelligence officials who were being charged in that court. Exactly right. Julian, the second part of this, right, so its not just that because part of the thing thats hard about evaluating the evidence on this story is how should i be thinking about what has been shown here . And to me whats striking here is that they were able to get this fisa warrant and that wasnt just a unilateral decision. That does have to go before a judge, again with this relatively High Standard in the context of fisa. Thats right. I mean there are in a way two different ways to read this, either of which is sort of a big deal. One is they had in fact had probable cause to believe this guy was acting as a Foreign Agent and in ways that either do or may involve violations of u. S. Criminal law. The narrative im sure that page would prefer is, the alternative is that this is an adviser to a president ial campaign and, you know, the other possibility is that there wasnt very strong evidence. Then wow hayou would have quest about how scrupulous the fisa court is being in evaluating evidence. Sort of two sharply contrasting possibilities but its a big deal either way. I saw a writer for breitbart saying, see, surveillance on Trump Campaign officials although i then saw another Trump Associated person say, well, he was never an adviser even though he was talked about. This will now i mean this now, talk about fuel on the bonfire of this story. Exactly. It makes it a bigger story. We have so many more questions here that need to be answered. One thing thats important, though, is this is not evidence of what donald trump accused president obama of having done back then, which was personally authorizing wiretapping of trump tower. This is just a carter page situation. Right. And also julian, it comes from the federal bureau of investigation. Youve probably heard of it. Its called the fbi. Its run by a guy named james comey, who we now know was supervisoring fisa warrants on this possible investigation, which he has now confirmed in open congress when he wrote the letter about Hillary Clintons emails. Yeah, i know. It is striking. I think what comey would probably say is, well, that was a closed investigation although then the question is what were they continuing to look at, and this was an open one. So theres a weird irony there in that the more genuine suspicion they continued to have or the extent to which they hadnt resolved the question of whether there was wrongdoing involved, they were less able to speak publicly about it. That is a great point, right . Like, well, this was quite serious. We didnt want to say anything. The other thing that we publicly announced, that was basically case closed, hence writing that letter. Thanks for joining us. Coming up, town halls are back, and the resistance is as strong as ever. Lawmakers getting some face time with some very unhappy constituents ahead. In kansass Forth District to replace former congressman mike pompeo, who is now the cia director. It is the first Congressional Election since donald trump became president of the United States. With less than 1 of the votes tallied, the democrat is leading. It may be a while before the full results are in. What we do know is that it never should have been this hard for republicans to defend this seat. Its a district that has not gone democratic in more than two de deca decades. The president recorded this robocall for gop candidate ron estes. On tuesday, Republican Ron Estes needs your vote and needs it badly. Ron is a conservative leader whose going to work with me to make America Great again. Were going to do things really great for our country. Our country needs help. Ron is going to be helping us big league. But i need republicans like ron estes to help me get the job done. This is an important election. Theres really few very much more important, and i need your vote for ron estes on tuesday. Not a whole lot of clues about what ron estes stands for or would fight for in Congress Although the president attempted to raise some actual issues with todays tweet. Ron estes is running today for congress in the great state of kansas. I need his help on held care and tax cuts. 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So that [ Audience Booing ] obamacare is denying services, delaying services. [ Audience Booing ] [ Audience Chanting you lie ] its not just town Hall Meetings getting flooded by outraged voters. The Wall Street Journal described a surging wave of activists who are pouring money and energy into antitrump causes wherever they can find them. Town hall crowds are still vocal in support of the Affordable Care act act and a range of issues as congressman ted yoho of florida discovered at his town hall meeting in gainesville. I am not going to support planned parenthood. [ Audience Booing ] my fights not with planned parenthood. My fight is with no taxpayers money going to any organization that does abortions. [ Audience Booing ] i dont believe the federal government should have a role in providing health care for everybody. [ Audience Booing ] i stand with the second amendment. My job is to defend the second amendment. [ Audience Booing ] joining me now, msnbc contributor who has recently traveled Toeveral Red States and discussed ideas about resifltance and reconciliation. I was thinking about you because a lot of what were seeing, whether its in this kansas district, the georgia district, or even those town halls, those are hard core republican districts this stuff is happening in. Its a reminder that its a big enough country that when youve got hundreds of thousands of people in a place, a congressional district, theres going to be some Critical Mass of people even if theyre not the majority, Who Dont Support Theme the president. Thats true. I think for someone like me, frankly, who finds this president to be profoundly dangerous, theres something thrilling about the videos you just showed. People are stepping up. People are getting activated. People are resisting. Let me say i also find something a little disturbing about those videos and the thousands of others you could have played, which is that were not talking to each other. Its very helpful to resist dangerous power, which is what i think this president represents. But i think were doing less of a good job at being mindful of the circumstances in our unhealthy body politic that allowed someone like this to win. And i think the resistance is actually doing much better than the reconciliation. You know, i think thats interesting although i also think that its a question of how much you learn from the tea party, right, because the tea party was not real into reconciliation. They were into activation, mobilization, strenuously protesting and saying, no, no, no. And it was politically effective, at least in aort of sht termtical sense, and it seems to me thatshe model right now for the folks on the other side. Do you think that model is incomplete . I dont think it was a brilliant longterm strategy. I dont think they won the future. I dont think the america of the next 50 years is the america they wanted. So i actually think theyre probably not a great example to follow, but they are parallel in that i think movements like this have a choice about whether they want to be kind of purist and exclusionary or whether they want to be inclusive. I think, you know, i am probably as strident as you can get about this president being dangerous. But when im in a lot of these conversations and circles about what to do, i find theres an exclusionary tone, and theres actually a lack of interest in poaching 5 of the other side. I think theres probably less of that, though . Dont you think theres less of that in places like the kansas fourth district where folks are living and working and hanging out all the time with folks that did vote for trump. I think the way that got sculpted there is different. Totally. Thats what i learned going out to these play places. Western michigan, i was in an area thats betsy devos country. The interesting thing is peoples lives and families and communities are much more divided and mixed politically than ours are here in new york. Its very common to go to dinners in new york and washington and its going to be all antitrump people or maybe all trump people. But out there, people dont have the luxury of being so purist. And i think we can actually learn from them because this resistance will fail if it is a movement of the already woke. And its not interested in expanding and poaching and drawing people in who may be on the fence. Yeah. Thanks so much for your time. Still to come, meet sebastian gorka, a counterterrorism adviser to the president , who recently garnered praise from a group with nazi ties because of something in this picture. Plus, Everybody Needs a hobby. Thats tonights thing 1, thing 2 after the break. Hey, ready for the big meeting . Yeah. 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He says its a perversion of islam. Based upon what . Gorka isnt just a Run Of The Mill antiislamist. Gorka wore the honorary medal of a hungarian nationalist organization to trumps inauguration. Now, the organization was previously listed by the state department as, and i quote here, under the direction of the nazi government of germany, its founder once said, i have always been an antisemite throughout my life. A spokesman told them the group was proud gorka had worn his medal and he was a wellknown member of vitezi. An investigation by the jewish newspaper found that Gorka Workedith the openly racist groups and public figures in hungary. Gorkas involvement includes cofounding a Political Party with former members of jobbik, known for antisemitism, repeatedly publishing articles in newspapers known for antisemitic content. Gorka says he was unaware of his former allys connection to the far right and only wore the medal to trumps inauguration to honor his father. 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Dont wear nazi collabist medals to the inauguration. I agree with you. I also think its unlikely that donald trump is a vicious antisemite. I think that he and certainly parts of his administration get their ideas from the gutters of the old antisemitic and kind of Unabashedly Racist far right. Sometimes what you see them doing is repeating classic antisemitic language and classic antisemitic tropes, just not talking about jews per se. Particularly when they talk about the global financiers that are the globalists. Bleeding the Working Class people of this country dry. So when you see an administration with a lot of people who have clearly been influenced by antisemitic thinkers and antisemitic world views, and i think this thing with sean spicer, i think, is not that. This was just buffoonish, accidental holocaust denial. But this is why nobody wants to give them the benefit of the doubt because they havent earned it. David, spicer today called up Sheldon Adeleson to apologize. I love this as a designated jewish person to whom one apologizes. Spicer reached out to adelsons office and apologized for the offensive, per adelsons spokesman. Something weird about that, too. Lets keep in mind, donald trump is a man who has a long and well documented history of discriminating against various people. Not jews but blacks, women, asians, in employment, in housing. Earlier today, trump himself made some comments that were consistent with sean spicers awful comments. Lets give spicer credit for one thing. Unlike the politicians and Business Leaders who come out and say if i offended, i apologize. Spicer demonstrated that he has good manners. He just apologized. Yes, he did. And michelle, to me, the it gets back to the idea of the sort of, when you, at the sort of when you move out from the center of the actual administration, you get to a very strange and dark place on the far right pretty kwuk quickly. And you dont have to play that many Dot Connecting which is why you end up in this place. Its not six degrees of separation. Its one degree of separation. Sebastian gorka. When you have this person who his exact connection to this nazialigned group is disputed but he admits that he wears their medal. Hes adopted members of his group adopt a lower case v as a middle initial, which he has done. He said he inherited his membership from his father and didnt actually pledge a lifetime oath of loyalty as members of the group claim he did. Im old enough to remember 12 weeks ago when even just kind ofof that degree of association with nazism would be enough to get you drummed out of the white house. You wonder whether well see that. Gorka is a part of a wing of the white house that has not been faring particularly well including mcfarland and flynn and others in the orbit. Donald will keep him around as long as he thinks its useful to him. He demand s 100 loyalty from everybody. The luminosity of white skin on the people who work in this white house blinds them to many, many things. Yeah, and thats a good point. It has not been a particularly diverse place generally in the early days here. And it does we see it all the time in every institution whether its the media, whether its politics. It does matter who is in the

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