Thats what separates people that live for a purpose and those that just live a life that doesnt mean anything at the end. The president hit that one on the head. Thanks for watching. Im al sharpton. Hardball starts right now. Nada, lets play hardball. Good evening. Im chris in washington. Let me display this horrible display by the republicans in the house of representatives. After three weeks at the huma humanitarian crisis on our southern border, it became clear the congress will agree to give the president not a sinkal lincoln headed penny to deal with this crisis, nada, nothing,
no way. Nothing for the 57,000 young people now in the hands of the American People. The blame for this lies on the reputation of a weak speaker of the house who was unable to even tie his sure without the daily permission of the tea caucus. A fiery texas senator called ted cruz when killed John Boehners hold on a majority vote. The failure of the president to take an outfront lead to correct the 2008 law against Human Trafficking passed by president george w. Bush who helped owning the gate for the young people to come from Central America and for senator harry reid to alleviate the border crisis with the comprehensive bill waiting action in the house. The effort to do a lot, compress their advantage by both sides, ended in the congress about to leave town and doing nothing at all as they pack their bags for a fiveweek vacation. Mission accomplished . You have to be kidding. Basking on the afterglow is the
party ring leader, ted cruz, whose sole purpose in politics is to parachute into moments like this and raise hell. Emanuel cleaver is a democrat from new jersey, and joan is an editor at large at salon. Congressman y have been listening to you lately, and you have a lot to say about it, but im dumbfounded by the utter incomp tense of our government. Coming at this at a crisis mode for three weeks, everyone in america caring about those kids once way or another, and it looks like the congress is going to leave with nothing done. Well, theyre trying to talk about staying overnight and doing something tomorrow morning, but even that, chris, is absolutely nothing. This is insulting to the people of this country. Insulting to people who are in washington because we thought we were here to solve problems. And im not a name caller, a bomb thrower, but i can tell you, im sick and tired of whats going on here in congress because theres nothing going
on. And you know, there are people who it seems are coming, have come to washington for the sole purpose of disrupting the government. They are antigovernment. And people out in the country are the ones who are going to have to stop this. Who wins when ted cruz, the senator from texas, the firebrand of all firebrands, he comes over and meets with a dozen of your republican colleagues. Next thing you know, boehner, the supposed speaker, at least the nominal speaker of the house, finds he doesnt have a majority to do anything. Whats going on where a senator, there he is walking across the capitol or whatever, and jamming everything up. Well you know, in some ways i dont want to hate. It troubles me deeply, to believe that one human being can disrunt the compassion a nation of 300 million people. As a realist, that troubles me deeply, but i know there are people under regular circumstances are good and decent people, but they come around here with people who hate the government, and theyre
different. They dont get ulcers, theyre carriers. Thats whats going on here. We have a lot of carriers of people who come in and get the whole body of politics sick. And we are sick right now. Maybe sick unto death. Is there a fear in the Republican Caucus anytime theres a line drawn, for example, are you for suing the president or not, you always have to be on the right side of that, the rightwing side of that . Well, i mean, what people wont say, and nancy pelosi, i have to give her a lot of credit. She continues to remind people that was a question that the media dropped on her repeatedly during her speakership, and she always said impeachment is not on the table, no matter how many weapons of mass destruction were not found, thats not impeachment, Speaker Boehner wont do that. He doesnt want to offend anybody. He wont even say birtherism is wrong. He said, i dont want to tell people how i think. Joan, we have been watching politics a lot, me longer than you. I have never seen such failure and fear. They wont help those kids. They wont give them a nickel. As i one said, not one lincolnheaded penny. Its tragic, chris. The congressman is right. There are some carriers of a real sickness. Ted cruz is doing his best to spread it. But bill kristol laid it out this morning in the weekly standard, i have to give him credit. He told the house gop kill this bill because we dont want you to do the heavy lifting of governor, having you back in your districts defending something you did or didnt do. We want to drop this on the president. We want the finger of blame pointing at one man, president obama, and we dont want you to get your hands dirty with compromi compromise, with actually thinking about the complicated set of reasons that this problem wound up at our border. You cant do that. We dont want you implicated in governing. Thats when you burn your own field so the enemy wont eat. Its sabotage dressed up as political genius. So its not just ted cruz. Its a lot of people, but ted cruz is the symbol, one man out for himself. No principle in this. He wants them to cut the funding for the deferring the deportations. Its not funded by congress. These applications, its a selffunded program by application fees. They cant even cut the money. What hes trying to do cant even be done. That doesnt matter. What matters is grinding up the gears of government and making people believe we cant do anything as a country. And its very sad. Its august vacation time. Looks Like Congress is going to leave and not get this done, although theres a lastgasp chance tomorrow. Look at this comment by the governor of texas. Anger and outrage has already begun to pour in from members of the Republican Party after the house pulled the border bill. Rick perry issued this statement. Its beyond belief congress is abandoning its post while our border crisis continues to
create humanitarian suffering and illegal aliens pose a threat. Congress should not go into recess until our job is completed. Do you think the republicans are going to scatter back tomorrow, have a quickie and pass it, and will it go anywhere in the senate . Will we get anything to the president s desk . I dont it. They dont have the votes right now, so theyre going to beat people up all night long and hope to have them tomorrow morning. And even then, its going to be questionable. And if something comes across, its going to be watered down from what it is now, trying to accommodate the far right in the republican conference. So when it gets over to senator reid and a more sensible senate, i dont think its going to go anywhere, which ought to make americans so angry that they began to react to all of these people who come to washington to disrupt the nation. It is sick, and im sick of it. I hope the people around the country are sick of it and theyll come out and express
their sickness in november. Well, let me ask you about this, and ill go to joan on this, too. You know, back in 1948, i love history like you all do, too. I was thinking, harry truman had a donothing congress after world war ii. They did nothing except investigate people for communism. Maybe they caught one here or there, but basically, they were wasting time. They used to open with a prayer and close with a probe, as someone once said. Wasting time in investigations. Darrell issa right across the floor. My question is, do you think the American People are going to vote for nothing, a party that stands for nothing, because thats what the republicans are saying . Well do nothing. My fear is people dont realize theres only one human being who can bring a measure to the floor in the house of representatives. Its the speaker. I appreciate for the governor of texas is saying. That sounds like something i could have said. The problem is, he needs to instead of saying congress, he ought to say the republicans in congress. And call names, because my fear is that the American Public does
not understand the nuances and they may not understand that it is the republicans, not the congress. Its the republicans. Well, the Border Bureau of the house was reworked four times to appease the red hots and it still failed. July 8th, president Obama Asks Congress for 3. 7 billion to address the crisis on the border, all the young kids down there. The house does nothing until july 23rd and then it began putting together a 1. 5 billion counter offer. Three days after that, the package is scaled down to 1 billion. On july 29th rblths it shrunk to 659 million. Last night, ted cruz began whipping support against it, so this morning, the speaker anonsed a package to get their support by announcing a plan to block the president s power to halt deportation of certain groups of immigrant children. This afternoon, still without enough support, the speak eer pulled the bill from the floor. Joanie tried to appeal, tried to pander to the regard right. It didnt work because as
congressman cleaver just said, they dont want to be at peace. They want to say we dont have our hands on this thing. Exactly. If you read that statement that the Speakers Office released, chris, where he says the president can take actions on his own without congress, thats what theyre suing him for. Thats what some want to impeach him for. Theyre saying he does too much through executive action, and now theyre saying he can handle this through executive action. I know some of my friends in the Mainstream Media want to go on and on about how its the left and democrats talking about impeachment. Certainly, we didnt start it. I dont know we get to finish it either. This is designed to depict our president as a tyrant and dictator who is usurping power and theyre now telling him to do it. Then next week, theyll tell us theyre going to impeach him over it. Sorry for misproducing your
name. Emanuel sour who was around this place for years. Youre far more lively and alive than that gentleman. Thank you for joining us very much tonight. And thank you, joan walsh. Coming up, Tea Party Types are thrilled with the immigration breakdown. A lot of hand wringing among Establishment Republicans about how much party this will cause them in november. Theyre the nada party, standing for nothing. Also, the businessman on the stand, Bob Mcdonnell with his wife. While prosecutored showed notes with Jonnie Williams and mcdonnell to discuss a loan to mcdonnell. Were seeing a lot of quid pro quo stuff. A democratic congressman talked about how he was duped by the Bush Administration into voting for the war on iraq. Theres some powerful recent history. Let me finish with my question for all time. When it comes to our involvement in the iraq war. How did we get talked into it . Not me, a lot of people. This is hardball, the place for politics. S already thinking about tomorrow. Which is why hes investing in his heart health by eating kelloggs raisin bran ® good morning dad. Hi, sweetie. Heres another eye opener, not only is kelloggs raisin bran ® heart healthy, but its a delicious source of potassium. Mom make you eat that . I happen to like raisins. Now thats what im talkin about. Invest in your heart health. With kelloggs raisin bran ®. You owned your car for four you named it brad. You loved brad. And then you totaled him. You two had been through everything together. Two boyfriends. Three jobs. Youre like nothing can replace brad then Liberty Mutual calls. And you break into your happy dance. If you sign up for better car replacement, well pay for a car thats a model year newer with 15,000 fewer miles than your old one. See Car Insurance in a whole new light. Liberty mutual insurance. Well, the congress is already on track to become the least productive in history. Now, everyones about to head out for five weeks of august vacation. Lets compare this congress with congresses in the past. Back in 1948, when harry truman famously ran against the donothing 80s congress, that group managed to enact 906 public laws. Thats the blue bar all the way to the left. Compare that to the 112th congress. But so far, this current 113th congress has enacted just 142 bills into law as of today. Again, on tract to be the least productive ever and a lot of those bills are just lets make it maple sunday. Well be right back. When you run a business, you cant settle for slow. Thats why i always choose the fastest intern. The fastest printer. The fastest lunch. Turkey club. The fastest pencil sharpener. The fastest elevator. The fastest speed dial. The Fastest Office plant. So why wouldnt i choose the fastest wifi . I would. Switch to comcast Business Internet and get the fastest wifi included. Comcast business. Built for business. Welcome back to hardball. Yesterday, with republicans in congress racing to vote to sue him, president obama had these strong words, calling out the donothing congress. Lets watch him. The main vote that theyve scheduled for today is whether or not they decide to sue me for doing my job. Theyre mad because im doing my job. And by the way, ive told them, i said, i would be happy to do it with you. So the only reason im doing it on my own is because you dont do anything. But if you want, lets lets work together. You dont do anything. Thats my favorite throw away line of his in a long time. As if on cue, congress lived up to the president s words by literally doing nothing in the face of the crisis on the border. How will this play out with the American Public and who will they blame . Peter king of new york has his finger pointed in one direction, southward, to ted cruz. He told the Washington Post this morning, before republicans pulled the vote, quote, the Obama White House should put ted
cruz on the payroll. We have a chance to pass a good bill, not a perfect bill. Boehner is working hard to get to 218 votes and yet there is ted cruz telling us to do nothing. If he wants to come over and run for speaker, thats fine, but otherwise he should stay over there in the senate. I love peter king. Sometimes. Steve mcmahon is a democratic strategist, and john is a republican strategist. This is set up politically for obvious reasons. John, it looks to me like the president has found a message. A harry truman message, which is im not running against the right. Im running against nothing. These guys whole strategy is freeze the ball, do nothing until the election is over. Turn that into theyre a lazy bunch of nogood people not out to help the people. You heard congressman cleaver. And yet the president s Approval Ratings keep going down. Lets get that straight, 41 to 7. Well find out. I think this is going to be like all midterms, go to be a vote about president obama and his
popularity. I think thats why republicans will do well. I have not given up hope on this border bill. I think theyre going to meet tomorrow and pass something. Its going to be hard. Where is it going to go . To the senate, and maybe theyll pass it, which they havent done. Let me ask you this, do you think Congress Deserves reelection based on its performance. Forget party for a second. Do you think congress which has a 7 approval rater led by republicans in the house, democrats in the senate, do you believe the body of congress has done a good job. I believe the house has done a much better job than the senate and why the senate is going to change control. Are we living on the same planet . Watching what they did today, john says he thinks the house is doing a better job than the senate, the senate that passed an Immigration Reform bill. John is normally a levelheaded republican. Today, hes defending the indefensible. Hes generally right what the midterms are, a referendum on the power, unless the boneheads
in the other party step in the way and make a skeptical of things. Like in 1998. Like in 1998 and today. The president has found a voice and someone to run against. For three weeks, we had pretty good headlines about the American People. Some think theres too much illegal immigration, but even within that group, theres a lot of sympathy for the kids because they came over from a horrific situation. Not from mexico which has problems but not horrific problems. From places like honduras, like the worst neighborhood in the United States is better than that. People are actually conflicted, but then the republicans come along and say were not doing nothing. How is that going to sell . Nothing, not a nickel. Ultinately, i think they are going to pass something tomorrow. I think thats why boehner is pushing hard and why peter king who is going to flip . Theyre working on it. Thats why peter king is so frustrated with ted cruz, who should run for speaker if he wants to be the speaker of house. Theyre going to get something and then bargain with the
senate. How can one guy who verges on joe mccarthy every week in his talking about people, show up and walk the capitol, i never heard of a senator going to the house and lobbying. Stunning, actually. I think thats why more and more house members are getting frustrated with cruzs leading role. Isnt there a happy bunch of 30 of them waiting for orders . About 15 to 20. Thats what makes it difficult. He comes over there, he brings the cameras. This people generally dont get on cameras. He has them over for pizza. Its like a movie like mr. Smith. Theyre on the take with this guy . Well, i think that ultimately, a lot of these members are listening to the views of the American People. And the phone lines for the American People are melting down. Thats a problem. I think that for ted cruz and the speaker, they have to get on the same page and find a way to get this done. Right now, it looks like the
democrats could lose the senate this fall. How is this going to play . Is it going to hurt the republican challenges. This is the best thing in the world for the democrats running for reelection in the house. The republicans trot out and the only thing they can pass is a bill to sue the president , or the only thing they can talk about or not talking about is taking impeachment off the table or not off the table. Every time these conversations extend themselves, its great for the democrats. Its not great about the things we talked about a few months ago. Its things that make even john boehner blush. Almost every analyst understands and have predicted that the republicans are going to take over the senate. This has gotten worse for the democrats. Lets listen to some of your party members, guys you hang out with. Steve stockman tweeted, quote, any border package that doesnt defund Barack Obamas amnesty is a crap chimichanga. Those are his words. Figure him out. And Erick Erickson defended ted
cruz against critics tweeting, house gop twitter fans are behaver toward senator cruz like Justin Bieber fans after someone has pointed out his lack of talent. Thats playing to the younger crowd. What deyou make of that . You have crazy people. The crazy card chasing after the speaker. Thats not the person. They have to get other folks who are going to vote for the package and not worldy about the folks who are always going to vote no. Is there more crazy people in the Republican Party . I think its about the same amount of people. Far more. I think actually with social media, people are more able to express their opinions in a crazy way. The tweeting world is filled. This is a story ability gerrymandering and 57 of the Republican Base thinks the president should be impeached. These guys are trying to navigate the speakership and hold the house with a bunch of crazies who are perfectly willing to take you down, perfectly willing to vote to
impeach the president and perfectly willing to change the entire conversation. Lets stop right now, lets be fair. Why doesnt the speaker take impeachment off the table . He has, like 30 times. The only one talking about impeachment is you guys. You do it because you want to raise money, and Everybody Knows it. Did you see the Fox News Sunday show when scalise was asked to take it off the table, and he wouldnt do it. Hes the leadership . The leadership. This morning, boehner warned obama not to take these actions. It the president takes these actions, hell be sealing the deal on his legacy of lawlessness. Hell be violating the solemn oath he made to the American People on the day of his inauguration. And hell be sacrificing the integrity of our laws on the alter of political opportunism, and i can guarantee you the American People will hold him
accountable. If it talks like a duck. Constantly references the president giving up the integrity of his office, breaking this law, breaking the constitution over and over. You dont thick thats a threat . What is that . The politics of this are democrats dont want obama to overreach on immigration either. Hes enforcing a law that was passed and promoted by george w. Bush. Hes decided not to follow the law. Thats a real problem for senate democrats. You know that. You think the president is going to issue work permits . I dont know what hes going to do. I think there is an area he would be avoiding, but these are threats that are endemic. Speaker of the house boehner talks like the Tea Party People think. He talks about the president betraying the constitution, betraying the integrity of his office. All the lingo you would use in an impeachment trial. Thats right. 57 of the republicans who vote in primaries would like to see Congress Impeach the president. And hes aware of that, and so
is the tea party. Are you in the 57 pest . I have lived through impeachment. It doesnt work politically. Its never going to get through the senate, so dont bother. We have tried impeachment. What we should probably do this lawsuit thing is not a bad alternative. Would you do it. Impeachment . You dont want to go back and read ken starrs feetnotes. Thank you, steve and thank you, john. Great to have you on. You were flacking a little bit tonight. Up next, one of my colleagues responds to a coleague. You know who she is. This is hardball, the place for politics. Since robert taira openedsion kings hhis first bakeryd, in a small hawaiian town. Making bread so good, that people bought two loaves one to take home, and one to eat on the way. So good, they grew from here. To here. To here. But to grow again, to the east coast they needed a new factory, but where . Fortunately, they get financing from ge capital. We not only have teams dedicated to the food industry, were also part of ge, a company thats built hundreds of factories. So we could bring in experts to help kings hawaiian make sense of transportation routes, supply chains, labor pools, and zoning to help them make the right decision. And, id like to think, to make their founder proud. If you just need a loan, just call a bank. At ge capital, were builders. And what we know, can help you grow. When folks think about wthey think salmon and energy. But the energy bp produces up here creates Something Else as well jobs all over america. Engineering and innovation jobs. Advanced Safety Systems technology. Shipping and manufacturing. Across the United States, bp supports more than a quarter million jobs. When we set up operation in one part of the country, people in other parts go to work. Thats not a coincidence. Its one more part of our commitment to america. So, when i heard that somebody at fox news said i
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to them. They were also shown videos of mcdonnell telling the convention that williams was an old friend of the governor. And he said, quote, i wasnt going to correct her, on mrs. Mcdonnells claim he was a close friend of the governor. Finally, i knew it was wrong of the rolex watch he gave to the governor. I shouldnt have had to buy things to get the help i needed. Inrolex watch he bought to the first lady so she could give it to her husband for christmas, was presented as evidence today and passed around by jurors. Joining me now is katie glik and carol linnic who broke the story two years ago. I want to start with you at the post. I just think are you allowed to say youre skeptical of both arguments or do you have to say im just reporting this . Reporters are always skeptical, but theres a lot of efdz that raises doubts about the idea that Maureen Mcdonnell was taking a lot of gifts from this fellow was she was
interested in him romantically. There are a lot of things that raise fundamental questions about whether or not thats true. What about the prosecution argument that they were not friends . Thats coming from a guy who the governor thought was his friend . The prosecution has been hammering that home for weeks in terms of some of the prearguments and now in the trial. Theyre really trying to stress a case that this individual businessman really was pursuing this for out of Business Concerns and of course, the governor and the defense team are really pushing back. Lets generalize this to the country. Start to run for office at the local level. To run for state assembly. Then you run for state senator and then you work for congress and you may work up to governor or senator. All along the line, youre picking up what we call friends. Theyre not necessarily a guy you grew up with, a woman that you grew up with. Theyre people who attach to you because you have these offices. They become your friends because youre in those offices. Theyre getting acquainted with
a slot, and youre the slot. You begin to take they take you to dinner. You try to honor the rules. You honor the rule says no lunch more than 3500 for lunch or some stupid rule like that. You cant take them to basketball games. They find a way to go on vacation together or to invite them to give a speech and have the perks that go with that. But this is, to me, typical politics. I want to start with you, carol, on this. You accumulate friends. Then when they go to court, they throw you under the bus and say we were never friends. I was buying influence and i copped a plea. Im going home. This guy is going to the can. Its true, Jonnie Williams got a great deal. All this immunity as a result of agreeing to tell prosecutors his side of the story. And what they wanted him to say . Yeah, but you cant completely fake all of this. There is a lot of information that backs him up, but clearly, heres one problem with the friend thing you mentioned. When the fbi went to interview maureen the first time, she said
jonnie is a good friend from forever. He and my husband met decades ago. I love the way we pick these pictures sometimes. Go ahead. That was a complete fabrication. When the fbi comes calling and asks you questions, you would think she would say they met for the first time in a plane when jonnie wanted access to my husband. You think theyre making a pretty good case in court he was after influence, he was paying for it . Today was a good day for the government. Well see what happens. Ill agree with the governor, its not all one day. Your read, katie. Do you think the government, the prosecutors are making a good case that this governor was bought . His wife was bought . I would agree with carol that today was a good day for the government. It was a number of revelations coming out. Photographic, you know how about the rolex watch being passed around . Why do you think the judge would say you have to hold it like a religious article . You have to have this in your hand. Its worth, what, 3,000 . I wonder about people wondering
where you can go. You have to go to pretty nice neighborhoods without somebody grabbing it. But the idea of a 3,000 item on your hand. That sort of gave people sort of a clear sense of what money we are talking about. That was only one of the gifts that was talked about today. We have heard, you know, the whole gamut from trips for some of the mcdonald children could it be people who never had their hands on a rolex watch and they knew the jury would never forget. I think the rolex is so critical, too, in todays sort of outlay of evidence, trying to say, look, this governor was on the take. First, they hand it around so you can see what it looks like, because remember the governors son said, i didnt know it was real. And then they show the picture. You know what worked for me in the prosecution case . You start with this, the alleged or the testified argument that mrs. Mcdonnell, the governors wife, offered to this guy Jonnie Williams, she would go to every doctor in the state, there must be thousands of them in
virginia, and sit with that doctor and make a case for this guys products. Thats one heck of a commitment. And why would you ever do that except to get something for it . You dont do that for a pal. Right, and a lot of scrutiny of their relationship. Of course, in this trial, as a whole. That argument. Thats not what you say to a guy you sort of like. I mean, if there is this flirtation going on, which could be harmless, of course. A lot of people like each other who dont get involved. Thats normal. The idea she would say im going to every doctor in virginia to help self your stuff, sounds like a deal. That does bolster the prosecutions argument this was not just a friend situation and this had nothing to do with the crush that the defense was bringing up earlier this week. This was a business proposition. As you know, thanks to you guys in washington, its a huge story. Everybody who doesnt live here should know that washington is sort of between virginia and maryland. Heavy influenced by maryland. This is a bedroom community. We thought this guy was kind of
dull, mcdonnell . I remember, about six months before it broke open, people were saying, gosh, you have to interview him. He really understands the budget and how to run a state. No one had any idea this was behind the scenes. A sad story. Anyway, either way you look at it, if its a flirtation, whatever it is, a lot of stuff changing hands that shouldnt have. Thank you, katie and carol. One of the great reporters still working att the Washington Post. You guys have grabbed a lot of them. Its said the truth is the First Casualty in war. Coming up, how the iraq war proved that principle before the first shot was fired. This is hardball, the place for politics. Knows her way can run in high heels. Must be a supermodel, right . You dont know aarp. Because aarp is making finding the career you love, no matter what your age, a real possibility. Go to aarp. Org possibilities to check out life reimagined for tools, support, and connections. If you dont think ive still got it when you think aarp, then you dont know aarp. Find more surprising possibilities and get to know us at aarp. Org possibilities
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to be any reck sill wrags. My first question to you is, the Mushroom Cloud. The president of the United States, george w. Bush, legitimately elected by the American People twice, sold the idea we were facing an existential threat, annihilation under a nuclear war. We were going to get hit with a Mushroom Cloud. Its going to come because Saddam Hussein is going to deliver it somehow to the United States on some balsawood plane. First of all, did they ever produce evidence of that ever they had the weapon, the delivery system, the vehicle to send it with . No evidence at all. Why did everybody get sold with the idea of the Mushroom Cloud . It was a selling job by the bush white house. They took classified intelligence they were being given about the status of husseins weapons of mass destruction. That intelligence was filled with caveats, reservations, uncertainties and they turned around and said in public its absolute, its certain, hes got weapons. He wants more. Hes about to use them. And none of that was true. Why did they spin it so to
pushing us into war if they werent sure . In other words, they got the raw data, they knew the uncertainties. Yet, was this a selling piece . They wanted to two to wgo to wa other reasons, middle east peace, pushing the rejectionist states with israel, was it about oil, was it about george w. Being mad because they tried to kill his dad . What was the real motive behind all thisdishonesty . Some of all those. I think president bush thought he could establish who told him that . I dont know. He was listening to the intellectuals intellectuals, the one he never listened to in college. When did you first begin to think you made a boo boo, classic blunder in voting for this bill . Hillary clinton voted for it, john kerry voted for it, joe biden voted for it. A lot of people i like. Ed markey voted for it. When did you decide you got something wrong here . Well, i believed i had to vote to disarm Saddam Hussein,
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not only secular and opposed to islamism, but served back then against iran. What we were thinking . One thing we were led to think and think a lot about a Mushroom Cloud over our country. A Nuclear Weapon somehow delivered here on some kind of vehicle, a ghastly scenario we were instructed could well occur if congress and the American People did not make war in iraq. That was the benefit of a war. Keeping that Mushroom Cloud from occurring. As for the cost of the war, well, we were told it was going to be a cakewalk. A slam dunk. A matter of a few weeks dick cheney said with his usual avuncular assurance. Go worry, we were told. At a very cheap price, wed also get the bonus we were assured by administration insiders that the war would pay for itself and would get cheap gas afterwards to boot. Such a deal. Well, someday, while all the people are still with us, we ought to have one of those commissions, truth and reconciliation jobs to settle who pulled off this number and