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policemen in new york with a hatch hatchet. An american doctor back from west africa becomes this countrys fourth person diagnosed here with ebola. Its friday night, october 24th, a week before the elections. Were going to our friday night roundtable to try to put it all together, if we can and how its coming together in the minds and psyches of our fellow citizens, if thats even possible. We start with the latest news from marysville, washington. A reporter from the Seattle Times out there joins us now by phone. Jennifer, thank you. You know, were trying to get a fix on who did the shooting today. Can you tell us about the young person who did it . Reporter yes, weve been told his name is jaylen fryberg. Hes about 14 years old, from the tribes reservation up in marysville. From what we understand from our sources, he went into the cafeteria, around 10 45 this morning and opened fire. He shot and killed a young girl,
a girl who were reporting, rejected him for a date. What about the other four people that were rounded . Are they in critical care, or situations now . How are they doing in terms of life support . Reporter we have two children still at Providence Medical Center in dire condition. Two others have been transported to seattle to a trauma center. One of them shares the same last name as mr. Fryberg, and weve heard is a relation, but were not certain how. Im looking at these rather rough tweets that came out of mr. Fryberg, the young boy. It looked like there was a lot going on in this young guys life. Is it too early to figure out what motivated this pulling a gun on people he knew well, including the girl he was after, it seems. This is an amazing eruption of passion and anger and violence. Yet we have scant information about what might have caused it. Were not sure. Mr. Fryberg, it seems, had
everything going for him. He was elected to the Homecoming Court last week. He was a star football player. Very popular young man, well known in the community. His parents, very, very well known. His mother was on the school board. His parents were members of the tribe, very well known family. The fryberg family is very well known in marysville. What led him to do this . We understand a girl rejected him for a date. If you look on his twitter feed, there was a lot of anger in the last few days. Is she the one that was killed . Yes, there is a girl who was 14 who was killed. Let me ask you about the ethnic factor. What about the racial aspects of this story . Do we know anything yet . Reporter i dont think we know anything about the racial aspect. Mr. Fryberg is a native american. This community is a school of 2,000. Theres many students who come from the reservation that go to school there. Theres many, many students who dont live on the reservation who go there. Mr. Fryberg, from what we
understand was a well known, popular kid, and were not sure, other than maybe just simply a girl who rejected him, was the reason for this. That happens all the time, but this kind of violence is rarely the reaction. Anyway, thanks so much. Well know more in the days ahead. Jennifer, thank you for that spot reporting. Thank you. Joining me now, psychology jeff gardere and security expert anthony roman. Jeff, what does this tell you when you see a case like this . Well, certainly a lot of rage going on. And even though this young man is known to have been very popular, a lot of that may have been a facade for maybe a very unstable personality. But one thing it does tell us, and i know you know this, it begins to break the mold of what we used to see of school shooters, being isolated, being perhaps bullied. We dont know whether that has something to do with it, but basically people who are disaffected with severe mental illness, and this seems to be breaking all of those profiles,
unless theres a lot we dont know and im sure theres a lot we dont know as to what may have been brewing in this young mans mind and in his life with this young lady. From what we know of suicide, and this was basically a part of it, a suicidal attempt here, because weve seen evidence he may have been saying goodbye to people and all that, but im trying to figure out here, ive always been told that suicide doesnt come from a depressed reality, as much as it comes from a shocking change in your circumstances. Could the young girls rejection at the age of a freshman in high school be sufficient a motive to kill her and others and yourself . I think it might add to the drama that someone with an unstable personality is going through. Because, again, youre absolutely right. If everything is happening in a very calm, smooth way for this individual, and all of a sudden thats ruptured by perhaps a young woman who scorns him, or something in his life isnt following what hes used to
having, as far as an orderly progression, or some sort of a progress in his life, then that can cause him to go over the edge, especially if this is someone, again, with a fragile personality, that we just didnt know was that ill. We all grew up with Richard Corey about the guy who had everything going for him, then goes and shoots himself. Do you think the subject and the object are very different . We dont know what a persons feeling based on being freshman class prince or whatever he was. And playing on the football team. Which normally would be the signs of happiness and success and a good social life. But we dont know, do we, what he was thinking, feeling, living . Jeff . Oh, well, yes. Absolutely. I believe this was an individual who very much had a facade. And perhaps being this, you know, being in the student
court, being the prince, named to the fumble team and so on, has a lot to do with covering up a lot of feelings and using that in many ways to keep a structure in a life that may be falling apart. And so when the seams begin to show, when the public begins to see that maybe all of this is a mirage, then that person may feel suicidal, may feel that selfdoubt. The selfesteem is crushed and it may push them over the edge. The other thing is, we just dont know whether he had Mental Health issues. Was he on any psychiatric meds, or antidepressants. Theres a lot we dont know. As those pieces come together, well begin to build the real profile of this individual. Dr. Jeff gardere, thank you for joining us. Lets go to anthony roman. Give me a sense now. It seems like schools dont have metal detectors and im told you cant have one without somebody standing there, dealing with a kid who comes in with a gun and has to take it off them, tell them to go away, or what. Is there any way to keep guns out of school cafeterias, to be blunt . There isnt a 100 method of protecting any facility or preventing guns from entering the facility. What you do is create layers of deterrents. You make it more difficult for the individuals. But more importantly than the physical security in this particular circumstance, is understanding the young man who was suffering these problems. Clearly, based on some information weve developed on our way to the studio, it appears that the young man was suffering emotionally and that he had expressed that to many of his friends and colleagues. And it should have been selfevident that he was having some Serious Problems at that
time. If the schools would invest not only in upgrading security to a more professional level, one layer of deterrent, and then another layer of deterrent is the Mental Health issue, in which schools should reinvest in social workers, in peer Group Leadership programs, in physicians, psychiatrists and psychologists who can help these children during times of stress. They dont have to wait until theres stress. They can run in counter groups and discussion groups in which the kids deal with everyday problems, so they diffuse and learn to manage their problems as time goes on. And as they progress during their formative years. We never had any of this stuff growing up. We never had counsellors and shrinks hanging around the campus. You went to school, you got your
grades, you played sports, or in the band like i did and you went home. Which schools have the money to have the groups youre talking about, the professionals, the psychologists, the social psychologists, the psychiatry that youre describing as necessary to prevent this incident . How many schools have that kind of money . They dont have the money. As a matter of fact, all of the programs are being cut down. I know. Ive had experience in the School Systems in which children that i know need help in the formative years, in elementary school. And without help, some of these children would suffer some very Serious Problems in the future. It becomes selfevident in the elementary schools. So i think, at this juncture, we have to examine how high a cost is too high . How many bodies in schools are too many before we i am telling you, theres not a person watching right now,
that wasnt heartsick over a romance starting around 12. Youve been through it, ive been through it, the girl doesnt like you, the one you like, the boy doesnt like you, the one you like, this is life. Its called growing up. How do you separate the normal romantic rejections, the unrequited love, we call it. How do you separate that from a felony, a mass shooting thats about to occur . Well, that is not always guaranteed that one can be able to do that. But its training the children who are not having that kind of training in the normal family environment, to deal with the emotions and to deal with them properly, so they can mature in a proper way. In addition to that, coupling in school security, as you say. Do you need, you know, metal detectors as you walk into every school . Thats very ob trucive and we dont really want to see those in the school. But if we have security guards
and there are security guards in high schools in most high schools today. If we offer them additional training in how to spot kids with problems. These security guards often know the children on a different level than the teachers do and can often spot the kids that are having trouble. And can act as a big brother or big sister in circumstances like this, and preempt some of the problems themselves. So perhaps we can use some of the resources we have in place today, with a little bit of an investment, and a little bit more training for those security guards. Thanks so much for coming on this friday night. Anthony roman, what a night this has been. When we come back, the other big stories, none of them good. Ebola in new york city. Well find out how the virus geths spread. And the new rules put in effect today after this happened. Also, president obama meets the texas nurse, nina pham, whos been declared ebolafree. That is good news. And this is hardball. Hey tony, dad go wide
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institutes of health in bethesda, and went to the oval office and met with president obama. Meanwhile, in new york, a doctor diagnosed with ebola in Bellevue Hospital in new york city. Mayor bill de blasio rode the subway this morning, encouraging new yorkers to not be afraid. Late today, a mandatory twominuteday quaranti21 day quarantine for passengers arriving from west africa. We believe its appropriate to increase the current screening procedures for people coming from affected countries. From the current cdc screening procedures. We believe it is in the state of new york and state of new jerseys legal rights to control access to their borders. We will establish an interview and screening process to determine an individuals risk
level, by considering the Geographic Area of origin, and the level of exposure to the virus. Depending on the risk level, a person could require mandatory, 21day quarantine, or at a government regulated facility. Joining me now, dr. Nina radcliffe. Thank you for joining us. I guess the questions that people have now, they have real questions about the authority of anyone to tell us how you can get it and how you cant. Is it absolutely ironclad we know how you get ebola . Yes, it is. What we know is by science, is that it can only be contracted by bodily fluids. Fec feces, vomit, blood, and saliva. What about somebody sneeding next to you on the subway. Was he able to transmit it by sneezing . Two things. First of all, his viral counts were probably very low. And he probably was not having
the symptoms of coughing and sneezing. Its not an airborne disease. Yes, although it possible to transmit it by saliva, at this time, it is unlikely. So what do you do if youre on a plane or subway who is sneezing . Assume they have the cold or flu . We know its a minimal risk of getting ebola because youre on the subway, youre touching this persons bowling ball, or if youre going to the grocery store. Its a very minimal risk at this time. Why all the coverage tonight of the movement by new yorkers going around on the route this fellow took, over to brooklyn to bowl, he took three different subway lines, all listed in this mornings Washington Post. Why so much information on the tick tock here if he couldnt have transmitted it during that time . Are we being overzealous . We need to understand while people dont have symptoms, theyre not contagious. This person posed a minimal risk
of committing other people. He was not vomiting. He was not having diarrhea. He did not have a high viral count. We need to remember that and focus on the science, and not the fear of this. This is not an airborne disease. Thank you very much. People wanted to hear that. Lets bring in our roundtable tonight. Its friday night, well have the roundtable. Jonathan allen, Washington Bureau chief for bloomberg. Emily, a reporter at the national journal. And also politics editor at usa today. Start with jonathan here and this question of ebola. We now have a czar. His name is ron klain. Most of us know him. You can call him an operative, if you want to be dismissive. Hes a lot more than that. A public servant, comes in when hes needed. Tried to win the recount in florida, lost it to a strong opponent, jim baker. But hes reliable. Is he going to be a leader or a flag, someone that speaks the language that someone else wants him to speak . Probably a little bit of
both. Hes highly regarded inside the white house. Hes been mentioned as a possible white house chief of staff in the past and this may be a stepping stone to that for him. But i also think hes somebody whos a lot better at articulating what the administration wants out there as a message, than some of the people that have been delivering it so far, including dr. Frieden at the cdc whose had some difficulty doing that. Will he have the ability to change the way the government does things, or make a better case afor the way theyre alreay doing it . Will he be a fixer . The role is both. If he sees things to fix, hell have the power to do it, but also to articulate a little better. This white house is terrible with messaging. One of the problems is organization. Ive criticized okay, im traditional. Theres two ways to run a white house. The kennedy method, calling up
anybody to find out whats going on. Then the reagan method, a strong chief of staff who cracks the whip, and Everybody Knows their job and who their boss is. Which works here . Im waiting to clarify which way obama does things. Is there a chain of command . A president reaching out and checking with people . Its something that as weve watched this ebola crisis unfold, its been clear thats not really present. Youve seen theres been questions about whats going on where, about who knows what at what time . Obviously in dallas, we saw some of those issues coming to light. So now the idea that you do have somebody whos going to be a point person, who is going to be the person who theoretically all this is going to go through, should really help kind of keep that response more does he have the bureaucratic clout to be the boss . How many people working on your side to get something done, it
seems like hes dependent on susan rice. Does he have his own team, or is he just a fixture attached to all that team work . When obama appoints you to run this thing and he wants him to run this thing. Weve all done this in your newsroom. One editor to do the ebola coverage, so its not coming out of everywhere. Obama is really the Prime Minister spokesperson for the moment on ebola. Hes taken the lead, hes doing the talking. Whos in charge of making sure theres no more screwups . The president has been accused again today of always being the witness to something that just went wrong, rather than the chief of government. Ron klain is the guy. He will be the boss . Get it ordered, get it in line and get everybody on the phone together to make sure were not making the same mistakes. Remember the white house chief of staff, dennis mcdonagh, a Foreign Policy guy, national
security guy. Hes not steeped in how the domestic agencies work together. Poddestin may be that guy, but hes leaving. You bring in klain, has a lot of experience in government, somebody youre trying to possibly move into that chief of staff job. Do you think obama is ready to change and become a real chief executive, not just a good speech giver, but actually accept the job of running the u. S. Government . Is he ready to take that job on every day, 24 7, im the guy running this place . I think he needs to be. Weve seen really in the last year, there have been a whole host, as republicans point out, a whole host of issues on which he hasnt been doing that. So if he wants to make his presidency something to talk about, something to look up to, he needs to do that in his last two years. Do president s do that . Do they run the cdc . Are they the ones
they run the government of the United States and everybody wants to them. Theres only one person we goat to vote on, him. If we dont like the government, we dont like him. Whos running the Health Care System for the president right now . Anybody know the name of this person . Because when he had the rollout problem, we kept saying, its the coo, the cmm of the hhs and i dont see that person too often. You would think there would be somebody he appointed, the day he got the bill passed, i want this person talking to me, so when the rollout comes, we know its going to work. And with Something Like ebola too, theres just not having good information, not having streamlined information. It leads people to panic. Thats something that i think clearly the white house by bringing in ron klain, recognized is happening. When you have an issue that people are talking about, worried about, you have to have that kind of response. You think the American People believe in this country, when
the government talks about ebola . Do you think they buy the fact that its hard to catch . Not really. Not at all. Why dont they trust him . Why dont they trust the government . Theres been a sufficient stream of things over the past couple years, theyre incompetent or lying in a lot of positions. Whether its the nsa leaks, or health care. Gov that crashed. You assume the governments doing it, and theyre doing it wrong. And theres an industry fueling the message that its all a conspiracy. Its not just mistakes, theyre bad people and its all obamas fault. So between the fact that the government is operating poorly and that people are paying a lot of money to message that its all obamas fault, its easier to believe theyre incompetent. Isnt the scary thing not whether its incompetence or lying, but both . That theres some great combination here. This isnt about rightwing and leftwing and the usual fights we have around here. Its about getting something
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americans. Ebola is also in new york. The Canadian Parliament has been besieged by an extremist, and isis continues its reign of terror across the middle east. Were 11 days from the elections. Were back with the roundtable. Paul, how do you vote today if youre one of the mysterious 4 to 12 undecided . I dont know. Youve just depressed me. I want to go out and have a beer. That means 12 havent made up their mind. What will they do with all of this in their head . The most important question we look at, is the country on the right track, or the wrong track . Clearly at this moment who would say right track . Nobody would say right track. Theres always someone. Looks good to me. Its like the guy who liked clinton more after monica. Remember that . Thats a real problem for anybody with a d next to their name. It has to be a problem. President is polling 30 approval, how do you get 50 of the people to vote for you. If youre republican, do you like the way things are going . Scott walker, in wisconsin, likes the way its going. Its very good for republicans running for senate and house right now. People are afraid right now. And it doesnt look like the president s leading in the direction they want him to. The big statistic is economics and its the stagnant waging. Its not necessarily people think the economy is going terribly, but its not going well for them. Democrats dont have the ability to say, look what weve done for you, or heres the hope you can have isnt the market back up today . Market is up, but talk about peoples paychecks. Same since before the recession. This isnt just psycho babble. According to a poll just out, there number of people who think
things are out of control is 64 . Its an amazing thing. Thats something where people would have given obama the benefit of the doubt on one thing, or on two things. But when you have Foreign Policy crises going on, you have terrorism, you have, as you pointed out, things happening here in the United States, all of that contributes to a place in which voters dont feel safe. They feel like they dont know whats coming next. And that is not the environment you want to be in if you are president obama, or one of his allies right now. Let me focus on you for a second now. Suppose youre president of the United States and you go to bed at night, you have to have in your consciousness, what happened in canada, what happened in new york city, the cops who got attacked with a hatchet, the ebola is here, and the School Psychology of kids with dating and high school going horribly lethal, you have to put that in your head and say, what am i doing to lead
this country . And theres a war going on in isis, all the allies, the enemies you have to deal with, everything from health care toic maing obamacare work. How does one person run that world . Like obama . Especially a college professor, a law professor, really. How does he do this . I dont have any insight into how somebody could handle all of those things at once. I think thats the problem. People think that he cant. People think who can . What human being is capable of that . I dont know. I think this is going to be the argument thats hard for a lot of 2016 candidates, whether youre talking about rand paul, possibly ted cruz, Elizabeth Warren who is opening the doors none of them are executives. No, some are firstterm senators. Some are saying give me a shot, i think the American Public will say, we just tried this and those folks are not good at administering. But it also speaks to, you
have to be insane to want the job. Or you vet the other people who might get it . They look at that and say, i can do that. Hillary clinton if she runs, shell bring the 3 00 phone call back and say [ all speak at once ] i know one thing we have. The Job Description of every new president is the failure of the previous one. George w. Was considered not too bright, made big mistakes, pushed around by cheney. We wanted a president who was smarter, academic, read books. Thought that was a good way to go. But we didnt ask other things. Up next, joni ernst, the republican running for the senate in iowa is pushing Second Amendment remedy, personhood, and said states is shes a radical candidate disguised as a hog castrator. Youre watching hardball, a place for politics. In a race,
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seeing from her is very positive, standing in a pig pen in the last ad i saw, basically saying, i can clean up washington like i can how does she get past the Second Amendment remedy things, where you say youre going to use your gun if you dont like the feds. It killed sharon engel in nevada. Joni ernst has been a far stronger candidate. Shes somebody who has this profile of, shed be the first female elected senator from iowa. Shes a combat veteran. Shes a mom, shes got all these things that she really has. A year ago we were talking about republicans have nobody to run in iowa. Now were saying, okay, they have someone with a legitimate image and profile that slehes created in a state that serves her well. What do you do if youre a voter . May be okay in certain parts of eastern idaho. What do you do if you see the woman . Shes attractive, you like the way she speaks. Then you read the articles about what shes said in the past . Do you project the nice parts that you see in the ads . Or do you say if shes talking like that when nobodys watching, she may vote like that when whshe gets to the senate. People want to go and vote for somebody that reminds them of themselves, that makes them feel comfortable. And braley, i honestly, youre right, hes not as radical, dramatic. Hes also not particularly inspiring. He doesnt make people go, i cant wait to vote for braley. I think she has the advantage that people can walk into the polling booth and say, i like that woman. Maybe shes kooky, but i like that woman. Chuck todd got a hold of her and talked about her fringe past. Lets listen. Very early when you were running for senate, personhood
came up, abortion, you talked about impeachment. You walked them all back. What should voters now take away from that . You took some of those positions and then you say, maybe i didnt mean to take that, im not there, its a statement of principle. What should voters take away from that . A lot of those issues werent issues that were pushed by me. They were questioned that were asked by media. In this case, it was conservative groups getting you to sign on. Well, and didnt necessarily sign on to pledges that dealt with those issues. That was reagan talking there. He could do the same thing. He could say thats the way they got asked the question. He was untouchable. She sounded like a United States senator, pointing to the media. Shes going to be the prototype. She wins. Youre figure to see joni ernst clones run by Senate Republicans for years and years. This is why they dont want
mainstream or liberal moderators at their dwabez. Theyve accused them of bringing up questions about the origins of the earth and those kinds of things. That answer was not most politically savvy. Pretty good, though. She could have said, i misspoke, or she could have said i still believe some of that stuff. But she doesnt say any of that. There you go. The roundtable is sticking with us. Look whos back in the headlines this week. Monica lewinsky, i think she has a good case on this one. Today the Washington Post revealed now details about the harsh treatment she got when she was ambushed by federal prosecutors, threats of prison time of 26 years if she didnt talk. This is hardball, a place for politics. Im going to be hosting a live twitter chat on monday at 1 00 p. M. Eastern. Tweet me your questions about the mid terms and all the close races using the hash tag msnbc vote. Again, 1 00 p. M. Eastern on monday. Well be right back. Mormal snap jebby rolban jebby deetle flosh. [laughter] eh. Nows the time to get in the loop. Just look for our fall tv picks with xfinity on demand. Quickly find the seasons hottest shows, with a handpicked collection all in one place. Only from xfinity. Twhat do i do . You need to catch the 4 10 huh . The Equipment Tracking system will get you to the loading dock. There should be a truck leaving now. I got it. Now jump off the bridge. What . In 3. 2. 1. Are you kidding me . Go. Right on time. Right now, over 20,000 trains are running reliably. We call that predictable. Thrillingly predictable. How in argentina,rass change engineering in dubai, aluminum production in south africa, and the Aerospace Industry in the u. S. . At t. Rowe price, we understand the connections of a complex, global economy. Its just one reason over 70 of our mutual funds beat their 10year lipper average. T. Rowe price. Invest with confidence. Request a prospectus or summary prospectus with investment information, risks, fees and expenses to read and consider carefully before investing. Get to the terminal across town. Are all the green lights you . No. Its called grid iq. The 4 51 is leaving at 4 51. They cut the power. Itll fix itself. Powers back on. Quick thinking traffic lights and self correcting power grids make the world predictable. Thrillingly predictable. To build something smarter. Some come here to build something stronger. Others come to build something faster. Something safer. Something greener. Something the whole world can share. People come to boeing to do many different things. But its always about the very thing we do best. Monicas lewinsky said she was treated roughly by the f. B. I. One day . A suburban mall. It was recently obtained by the Washington Post. It backs up lewinskys claims of mistreatment. Well, back now with john,
emily and paul. I was not a big believer in the early claim this week from ms. Lewinsky that she was a victim of blah, blah, blah society and whatnot. But ken stars troopers, when they grabbed her, they set her up by having linda tripp say were having lunch. Say if youre trying to get a lawyer, your witness will not be valuable enough to get you out of prison. Keep you out of prison. Really rough treatment. Every criminal prosecution is coercion. They were coercing this woman to testify. It was meant to be an unpleasant experience. They clearly went over the line. They said if you go to your lawyer, you ool lose your immunity. The whoite House Counsel was her lawyer in about 10 seconds had she been able to make a phone call. Remember 98 . You guys all know what happened. 98, the public thought clin to did something wrong. But in a weird way, they make clinton look innocent, while he wasnt innocent. They flipped it. This may help Hillary Clinton when she runs for president. Certainly points in that direction, particularly, as you say, as the clintons are back very perpetually in the public eye these days. Its something, since then, we have seen his public Approval Ratings slowly climb back up. Hes one of the most popular, indand politicians in the country. Something like this can only add to that. To show that there were further overreaches and things that were done wrong on the opposition side. You have a feature on this show, side show. And Monica Lewinsky is a sad
side show. The only way she can get along in society is by this scandal thats old enough to drive by now. Its probably like 16 years old. Its sad what happened to her. Shes clearly taken advantage of by the president of the United States. Is she taking advantage of it, too . Of course, yes. People say intern and you think 16yearold. I think she was 22 or 24 Something Like that. I had two jobs on capitol hill that day. I think i was working 20 hours a day. She shouldnt keep subjecting herself to the public. This is the right point, exactly. Were going to hear a lot more about this. Is this good for the clintons . I honestly think it is. The clintons are able to say were done with this. Weve moved passed it. And it becomes more of a side show. The first time she appears, it becomes a big news story for us. She should have a cup of coffee with monica and get passed this. What are you crazy . No, im normal. Moving on, get it behind us. Any i want, jonathan allen, thank you. Emily shultise, when we return, let me finish with jonie ernst mainstreaming as a hard core republican. Even if youre treating your Crohns Disease or ulcerative colitis, an occasional flare may be a sign of damaging inflammation. And if you ignore the signs, the more debilitating your symptoms could become. Learn more about the role damaging inflammation may be playing in your symptoms with the expert advice tool at crohnsandcolitis. Com. And then speak with your gastroenterologist. With the expert advice tool at crohnsandcolitis. Com. Wouldnt it be great if hiring plumbers, carpenters shopping online is as easy as it gets. And even piano tuners were just as simple . Thanks to angies list, now it is. Weve made hiring anyone from a handyman to a dog walker as simple as a few clicks. Buy their services directly at angieslist. Com no more calling around. No more hassles. Start shopping from a list of toprated providers today. Angies list is revolutionizing local service again. Visit angieslist. Com today. When diet and exercise arent enough, adding crestor lowers bad cholesterol up to 55 . Yeah crestor is not for people with Liver Disease or women who are nursing, pregnant, or may become pregnant. Tell your doctor all medicines you take. Call your doctor if you have muscle pain or weakness, feel unusually tired, have loss of appetite, upper belly pain, dark urine, or yellowing of skin or eyes. These could be signs of serious side effects. Are you down with crestor . Ask your doctor about crestor. receptionist Gunderman Group is growing. Getting in a groove. Growth is gratifying. Goal is to grow. Gotta get greater growth. I just talked to ups. They got expert advise, special discounts, new technologies. Like smart pick ups. Theyll only show up when you print a label and its automatic. We save time and money. Time . Money . Time and money. Awesome. Awesome awesome awesome awesome all awesome i love logistics. Synchrony Financial Partners with over two hundred thousand businesses, from fashion retailers to healthcare providers, from jewelers to Sporting Good stores, to help their customers get what they want and need. Banking. Loyalty. Analytics. Synchrony financial. Engage with us. Let me finish tonight with this. There are few more things frightening in this world than a masquerade. I give you the case of jonie earnst. She proclaimd herself able to blind us to her more forbidding aspects. Like the bank robber who wears the nixon mask that becomes the only thing memorable to the eyewitness. Jonie ernst was able to present herself to iowa voters as simply the hog kas traitors. Who could think about anything else to say about her . Who had anything to ask about her after that introduction. Well, we should have asked. More to the point we should have remembered. Ernst is the one who said two years ago u she would use her gun against the u. S. Government if it did something that
infringed on her rights. Shes out is there on tape now using her Second Amendment rights to open fire on a Government Official doing something that she doesnt like. They have the right to arrest federal officials who atempatteo carry out the law. Iowa need not worry what the United States congress decides. If the state doesnt like a law passed by congress, it merely has to arrest any Government Official tasked to carry it out. Nullification is what its called. They can simply ignore, reject, defie what the National Government decides. If they elect ernst, thats their el call. If they elect her while ignoring their deepest political believes, they are failing to stick up for their state, for their coup tri. Think of the coldblooded scam