Andinting recognition caused by the ongoing shutdown. He was asked about reports of air Traffic Controllers not showing up to work. Do you worry about safety . And i do worry about safety. Its kind of disappointing the air Traffic Controllers calling in sick in pretty large numbers. Depending on the week many of them cant afford to support their families though. Remember this they are eventalty going to be paid. There are reports there are federal workers going to homeless shelters to get food. And i know they are and i dont understand why. Theres no real reason why they shouldnt be able to get a loan. Sglrsz get a loan . He said he wanted to make sure federal workers were aware they had options. He doesnt understand why they have to that. Is this the let them eat cake kind of attitude or call your father for money or this is character building for you . Its all going to end up very well as long as you dont get your paychecks. I can dont quite understand why as hundreds of thousands of men and women are about to miss a second paycheck tomorrow. The president seemed to miss the pointed of her remarks, saying nancy just said she doesnt understand why. Very simply without a wall it all simply doesnt work. Its the latest example of the president and others in his orbit, including his chief economist and daughter in law not getting the effect on real peoples lives. I can relate and im sure that people on the receiving end will make adjustments. They always do. A huge share of government workers were going to take Vacation Days and then we have a shutdown and so they cant go to work and so then they have the vacation but they dont have to use their Vacation Days and then they come back and they get their back pay and in some sense theyre better off. In terms of the workers am canning to work and not getting pads. Its not fair to you and we all get that but this is so much bigger than any one person. It is a little bit of pain but it is going to be for the future of our country. Meanwhile the countrys Aviation Industry and tom Homeland Security officials are issuing dire warnings. If i ever former Homeland Security secretaries, including former dhs secretary turned chief of staff, john kelly, urged the president and cong troosz fund the agency. Writing dhs employees who protect the traveling public, investigate and counterterrorism and protect Critical Infrastructure should not have to rely on the charitable of others. This is unconscionable. And several unions representing pilot attendants and air Traffic Controllers, we cant calculate the level of risk currently at pl play, nor predict when the entire system will break. You run a city a big one and you know what can go wrong. Whats your thinking of the lack of understanding of the people in the white house and their friends like the secretary of commerce . If we needed any conformation they live in a parallel world, we heard it today. This is an electricity crisis, a food on oyour table crisis and its so fund mamentally out of touch with real america. In los angeles were going to start helping our tsa agents, and air Traffic Controllers, giving them zero interest loans so they dont have to go to food bank they dont lose their jobs because they have to take another one that pays them. You know he made case he was more in touch with them than the culturally elite democrats in washington. Is he losing that cred . This is somebody whos been fundamentally out of touch with working people, stiffed his own workers, who doesnt care if his policies close down a plant in youngs town. Its the opposite of what he promised partnership so if you want to keep getting coned, go ahead. Do you think nancy pelosi, the speaker of the house, has taught democrats something about how to take him on . Absolutely. You have to stick to your principals, act like a parent with somebody whos having a tantrum. Im a parent a foster parent. You treat a kid whos having a tantrum in a certain way. You stay calm, keep moving forward and make sure were focussed on the real things. Because he wants to drag you down. He says the wall. It has to be the wall. Got to be a physical barrier along the rio grand, along our southern border. Nancy pelosi was like Unconditional Surrender on her terms. I think shes amazing but i just settled a sixday strike with teachers and a school district. You have to want to settle and have parties that want to. When the president gets up and leaves because he doesnt like what he hears, thats not leadership. What do you think of people with smaller classes, they want materials to teach kids with . The strerngts strength of people marching in rain was inspiring and great and then i said to both partis come to city hall and we arent leaving until we get this ton. We can divide each other or find our common ground. Are you going to run . Stay tuned to hardball. Today President Trump said he would not cave in on a demand for a border wall and one day after he did give in on the state of the union, hey lost that baby. Trump wrote as the shutdown was going on, nancy pelosi asked me to give a state of the union oh, really she shen changed her mind because of a shutdown. Thats her puraugative. Im not looking for an alternative venue because there is no venue that can compete with the history and tradition of the house chamber. I look forward to griving a straight straight of the Union Address in the near future. The president accepted the fact that a state of the union should be at a time a state of the union should be at time when we can talk about the state of the union when government is not shut down. Im glad we could can get that off the table because i know its a source of many questions. Its so unimportant in the lives of the american people, including those the victims of the shutdown, host nlss to the president s applause line in a campaign speech. Thank goodness we can get on to the subject at hand. Open up government so we can negotiate how best to protect our borders. Im joined by former chief of staff to speeber pelosi and co host of words matter podcast. Im going to ask all three to answer the same question. The ferocious heavyweight boxer, sonny listen, everybodys afraid of him. A young guy, cassius clay who knocked him out a couple of times. This guy could never win a again. He couldnt lose until he couldnt win. Is this the end of donald trump ass a ferocious contender . Well, i wouldnt put money on a that yet. Doesnt mean hes going to win this particular one but obviously he hasnt yet given in. What theyre talking about was some sort of a temporary reopening of the government. He says he would do it if there was a pro rated share of money for the budget wall in there, even if not the full amount he wanted. Thats at least some movement. We have a couple senate votes moving that neither side has the votes they need proceed the way they would like to. That means they have to meet in the middle someplace. It seems the speaker is as iconic about her wall, she said no. Where are we at on this . He wants a barrier. He wants 5. 7 billion for a wall and i dont believe this talk that he wants to down payment to open up the government. Because thats not going to be good enough for him. Because he could change tomorrow. Democrats are going to come can up with a proposal thats pretty com comprehensive. Hes going to dismiss it. The problem is republicans are starting to feel the heat and they told that to pence today. If you were nancy regan no, nancy pelosi. Would you fight this to the finish say no money for the wall . Not a nickel for President Trumps wall. And i was surprised i shouldnt say i was surprised. When the president thought he was actually going to deliver the state of the Union Address. She wasnt going to allow that to happen, no way, no how. He wasants going to have a monwrmo monument to talk about his wall. Im not amazed. The question elysse is does this guy not get, not only does he not get the culture of the democratic party, he doesnt get her character and toughness because he stuck his neck out like mussolini and she said keep pushing and then ill say no and thats what she did. On the don has not been challenged in this way by a co equal branch of government. God bless nancy pelosi for stepping out and saying she has representing congress she has this power and this authority and you look at the contrast between paul ryan and Mitch Mcconnell and its stunning. But if anything, donald trump, by prolonging the shutdown, as american cans are starting to feel the impact in transportation, their daily lives, as so many honest workers who have done an honest days work are not getting paid and the cumulative effect of that is i point to a new poll in wisconsin where 49 of those polled say absolutely not. They will not vote for donald trump. And so i do wonder if were starting to see a shift yes. In wisconsin. Late today President Trump said it would have been disrespectful to give the state of the union speech anywhere other than the capitol. And asked about the comment cans bouts federal workers. Perhaps he should have said it differently. Local people know who they are. When they go for groceries and everything else. And what wilbur was probably trying to say is they will work along. I know banks are working along. If you have mortgages, the folks collecting the interest and all of those things, they work along and thats what happens in times like this. And you write the big story. What is the story about this . It doesnt seem to me i look at all the phoney votes in the senate, what the president says, the speaker says. I dont think theyre close to a deal. What do you see . Look, they are dug in, as you just heard. The problem is once youve past a financial disagreement to make a moral argument, very hard to meet an agreement. If its immoral, its at 1 billion or 1. So how do you meet in the middle . And thats to give her policy she wants. The president reached out a little bit last weekend but too little, too late according to the democrats and so far you havent seen a counter proposal. Weal see one from them on border security. You can see how they would get there if they chose to. Both sides are pretty dug in and they have made it a moral argument. And on both sides the first test in their relationship of divided government. Either side looks at it as if they back down and lose faith, that will be a bad precedent for the next two years. You start with a cause and end up with a fight. Tell me about nancy pelosi and what shes like eye ball to eye ball. She was like what you saw when she was at the white house when the president attempted muother nancy . He cant figure her out. He cant call her madam speaker. It doesnt matter because she knows whats on the other side. She has the facts on her side. She has a majority on her side. Which he has not come to accept and once he accepted the democrats are in charge with the house and he wants to sit down and act, then he can do it. Do you think elysse haz struck a bell for not just the co equal branch of government but co equal gender whats the answerer . You look at donald trump and he has a real problem dealing with strong, powerful women and nancy pelosi is the most strong, formidable, powerful woman hes met. In terms of not being forficient in the art of the deal, he has really met in her someone who is competent, capable, understands how to govern and understands the political strategy needed to unite all herrer troop business hind her and donald trump has not proven that he has that he can go up against her and win. I think hes come up against a wall, actually. Thank you so much. Anyway, thank you, peter baker, and coming up, two failed votes in the u. S. Senate and the governments still shut down. Theres a sign of well, some people said optimism and he calls the whole exercise quote kind of stupid. He got that right finally. Plus Michael Cohen has been subpoenaed by the u. S. Senate. Which means were days away from hearing the former fixer tell all. By the way, hes under subpoena. No more walking away out of fear. 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At comcast were commited to delivering the best experience possible, by being on time everytime. And if we are ever late, well give you a automatic twenty dollar credit. My name is antonio and im a technician at comcast. Were working to make things simple, easy and awesome. Welcome back to hardball. Senate majority leader has finally emerged from his shell. The senate voted for the first time in over a months on reopening the government. But did it do anything to accelerate an end of the shutdown . President trump showed the first sign of budging, however. So knew they both were not going to go anywhere, we thought and now mitch is negotiating with Chuck Schumer and well see what happens. If they come to a reasonable agreement, i would support it. Even if theres no wall funding . I have other alternatives if i have to and ill use those if i have to. Wow, hes warning about Emergency Action by the president. The president expressed concern over the cost of the shutdown. The sources toelds the Washington Post that trump told a room of people this is a kind of stupid and every day thing. This goes on, the cost keeps getting higher. And a republican backed bill would have funded the government while providing 5. 7 billion for the wall temporary relief for d. A. C. A. Recipients and 10 votes shy of the 60 you need in the senate. The one for the democrats would have temporarily funded with no wall money at all. 5244. Well, since the shutdown started, senator mcconnell has been unwilling to move on anything without trumps approval. Lets watch that. The proposal outlined by President Trump that will consider in the senate is the only proposal, the only one currently before us that can be signed by the president and immediately reopen the government. I made the clear to the speaker were not interested in having show votes here in the senate. Were interested in bringing up something the house has passed, 60 senators will support the president will sign. In other words, make a law. Well, that wasnt for long. Because he pushed a bill today that had no chance of win withing. Meanwhile house leaders are crafting their own fwiel reopen the department of Homeland Security but woerwont include efor a barrier. Im joined by democrat from minnesota and former democratic governor of colorado. Another executive. Youve been executive all those years in colorado. What do you make of this political gamesmanship going on. What are they doing except dicking around . Cant use language like that . I look at it as how does seeing people get to this point . And the president is not a fool. I think hes dreadfully miscalculated and followed his impulses and now hes backed himself into a krner im not sure he sees his way out. He was ready to caught deal before they said you cant go anywhere without that wall. He rushed in with a lot of bravado, sort of like a child. Without really thinking what am i going to do next . And now hes got a place where hes stuck with theses demands and he realizes no one i mean putting a wall up has been a symbol. The rest of the world will see us locking people out and someone told me the other day as i was coming out here that if you think of exports from america, one of the great ways cash comes in is from tourists around the world. Thats down 8 the last couple of years. You put a wall up and see what you do to that source of revenue for the country. Maybe im playing great skeptic but i dont think he can move without a wall. If its 50 or 20 feet, hes got to put up something and i believe Speaker Pelosi is leading the party says thats immoral. This is an iconic battle. It is but just a minute ago the clip you showed how difficult it is to negotiate. You need to have a clear idea of what he wants and what hes going to settle for and hes real all over the place and its just ridiculous. And meanwhile i have people in minnesota and all over the country whose lives are being damaged by this. And wilbur rosss idea is people should just go get a loan. Its so out of touch hes a billionaire. Maybe he could loan. Ive been covering politics most of my life and ive never seen a power play like nancy pelosi and he just walked right into the punch. It looked like he didnt know she was going to do it. As a woman, i dont like do this but we live in identity politics. It looks to me like next year theres a very good chance the democratic nominee for president will be a woman. At least 50 50. Is pelosi showing the way how you fight with trump . I think she is. You have to be tough, clear, willing to take some hits at the same time you dont lose track of a what it is youre trying to accomplish. Hes afraid to give her a nickname. I can give you a bad name. Who knew he could do this, if he wanted to make a wum an real hero, he did it. Who thought he was the guy . I think hess intimidated by her. How so . He doesnt quite know what to do with her. And shes like the shes like the fifth grade teacher who said go back to your desk and dont come back again until you have your homework done. And i say this positively. Its not clever leccing tronnics and social media. She knows that stuff but its about who are you with . And you tooth and nail and you dont say anybody. Are you running for president . Weve gone around the country and to different states, my wife id say shes getting excited about it. So year moving in the right direction. A great man used to work in this room and his great question i put to you. Ready . What would stop you from running . If my wife or son put their foot down or if i went out there and people didnt care about pragmatic solutions. I spent the last 16 years trying to bring people together in nonconfrontational situations and environmentals and gas people to find compromises and move forward. If thats thrown out the window, then its not waste my time. You showed me around your old restaurant and all that stuff. Youre close to the people. Was walking to through tsa and one of them was a kraft beer guy and he was saying the government shutdown, nobody thinks of theetds little guys. But they make new labels for special beers and they have to get them approved by the bureau of alcohol, tobacco and firearms. Its shut down. Theres so many places it comes in. Debate with other candidates and the issue of kraft beer comes up, youre going to own it because you produced it. Its been an honor to have you on. Hope queue get in this race. Welcome and former governor of colorado still ahead another development in the Michael Cohen case. After postponing his public testimony, cohen has now been subpoenaed. That means you got to show up by the Senate Intel Committee. That happened today and this time he has no choice. They made an offer he cannot refuse. Were back after this. 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The Senate Committee on intelligence subpoenaed him to appear next month. In fact, unlike cohens decision to delay his voluntary testimony, if he doesnt show up he can be held in contempt and go to prison. He held back talking to the Oversight Committee after what he says were ongoing threats against the family like this one. He says i have an idea. Ill give you information on the president. He should give information, maybe on his father in law because thats the one that people want to look at because where does that money thats the money in the family. Cohens advisorer says he expects his client to honor the subpoena from the Senate Committee but still says this president s perceived threats still worry cohen. When the president of the United States amazing im about to say this called somebody who tells the truth a rat and then praises people who are refusing to tell the truth, then your sending a signal of lawlessness by the highest office in our country. So mr. Cohen is concerned that when youre labeled a rat and youre in a federal prison, there could be danger from other people. Im joined by my colleague, host of the beat. You know that was clearly to bulljure known as an informant and he was killed within hours by the prissners. Beaten to death. Dramatically. Yeah. So what do you think about the threat here . How clear is this . I referred to it as witness tampering. If youre telling a guy youre afraid hes going to testify against you in kangress, it is like johnny five angels and the godfather and bringing the brother in from sicily because youre going to kill him if the guy testifies. The pan tachg low analogy is one he made on msnbc as you were coming on air and i pressed him on it. I said wait, if youre siting the scene in the godfather ii, are you saying youre worried about violence and davis says yes, he brought up charlottesville and said even if he isnt ordering it, hes trying to wlu meant it among people who wilt lash out. Theyre in midtown manhattan and says they fear for the safety. Its dead serious. And then the congressional side is the chairs of the committees in the house, they view it as potentially criminal tampering. What more do you think cohen has that he hasnt given up already to new york prosecutors . Whats he worried up he hasnt given up already . I think youre asking the bigging question. If mueller laz the key stuff and he did say cohen was credible and help fool core issues. That sounds like the core stuff, election tampering and obstruction, then what else is there . Theres the way donald trump acts and the way his company runs, in matters that may not be chargeable. Oblehe thinks cohen will Say Something that will hurt him. But at a minimum i dont think any rational person can debate the fact that donald trump looks shook, scared, is doing incredibly incriminating, embarrassing things on air as you just showed to try to delay or prevent this time. So if youre asking me do i know what it is tonight . I dont. You had quite a collection. Lets listen to your panels reaction. Do you thinkee should speak before congress before he goes to jail . I dont have an opinion. I think he should. I could careless i want him to go to jail as soon as possible. The more openness the better. I felt like i was watching the tobacco industry. Were you waiting for the hands to go up . Yes. As we said the godfath reference again. Hell be held in contempt. Can he use the fifth before the Senate Intel Committee . So two things. He can take the fifth less than the average person because hes already done the selfincrimination on certain matters and confess. So he has less of that argument unless hes asked about things outside the plea deal and confession he made. And believe me lawyers would debate this but the short answer is he has less than the average person. The second to what your youve been pointing out. This is an usual situation. You have a longtime loyal defender of the president s and attorney to the president s who is scheduled to go to prison, who said he would now testify and come clean, who back said down because of the threats you reported and now a clash with the Congress Said guess, what, buddy, it may not be your call. Thats rr why its so big the democrats have subpoena power. Rarely do you have a subpoena fight with an incarceration deadline. Year all going to watch the next couple weeks. Do they try to delay it out past his reporting date to prison . This guy is not like john dane. John dean was not Richard Nixons confident. This is the real fixer. This is like velocci, giving you the structure of the coppos and the mob. Hes the guy trump called in the middle of night with girl trouble, women trouble. Whenever he had a dirty problem, he would call Michael Cohen and say what do we do about this . He knows it all, right . Isnt that what scares trump . Because trump might not remember how much hes conifieded in this guy. We have to remember the way donald trump works. There are people who think hes dumb or out to lunch. Not when it comes to his personal interests, his problems and his money. He may be hands off all sorts of jobs of the presidency. 37 of appointees are vacant because he wont do the work. But when the dime accusations, gag orders, silence agreements, hush money, national enquirer, threatening reporters, i could go on. We dont have enough time on cable news for it and we have a lot of time. So i think youre putting your finger on it. What is it that donald trump knows that cohen can say truthfully or credibly . Because i dont think him saying words with no corroboration or story line is moving anyone. All the problems that Michael Cohen was called to fix because one thing you got to remember about donald trump, this is a guy who would have hush money payments, make people sign the deal and he wouldnt sign it himself. Thats how secretive he was. Georgy knows, what georgys done. Its not a mystery to donald trump what hes done in life. Up next leaking, gossiping and in fighting. The new tellall book tells the ways in which Kelly Ann Conway became one of trumps most influential advisors and leakers. Influential advisors and leakers. Too, saying [indistinct conversation] [friend] ive never seen that before. I have. Just as important as what you get out of it . I have. Our broccoli cheddar is made with aged melted cheddar, simmered broccoli, and no artificial flavors. Enjoy 100 clean soup today. Panera. Food as it should be. This is a commercial about insurance. But lets be honest. Nobody likes dealing with insurance. See, esurance knows its confusing. I literally have no idea what im getting. I dont know either. Im just the spokesperson. But thats why theyre making it simple so that even actors, like us, can understand it. Im not an actor. Id love to tell you more but i only have thirty seconds. 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Now in a new book team of vipers cliff sims depicts trumps innercircle of a snake pit all leaking against each other. And in a lengthy excerpt, sims portray as Kelly Ann Conway as the most prolific leaker of all. He has a episode where he was tasked with draft agonal statement and sims says kwoetd cell canny ann was sitting at her desk texting away and since her account was tied to both her and laptop i could see every conversation she was having. She was having simultaneous conversations with no fewer than a half dozen reporters, most from outlets the white house frequently trashed for publishing fake news. As i sat there trying to type, she bashed jared kushner, reince priebus, steve bannon and sean spicer, all by name and conway recounted private conversations she had with the president , during which she had convinced him to see things her way which is a challenge when youre dealing with someone so unpredictable. She was talking about him like he auz child. 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An excerpt from the book on vanity fair recalls trump trying to persuade a prominent reporter to reveal their sources and the reporter laughed somewhat nervously saying they obviously could not reveal their sources mp and trump tried to cut a deal. Well, i guess thats fine, he replied, but of course you know i could can give you so much better stories, so much better. And trump relented. The reporter hung up without a top scoop from source close to the president which was the president of course. Joining me now by our friend, phil rucker and david led a former senior speech writer for president obama. Phil, this book, which can you somehow got ahold of fast, apparently a sevenfigure deal. Demand for dirt inside this white house. Its a memoir and its filled with intrigue and all sorts of scenes of dysfunction and due plisty and frankly among the president. Sims is quite flattering in his portrayal of the president and certainly not in his portrayal of some of the co workers. David, ive never heard of the white house so disloyal to the president. When i askredpoerters like phil is it hard getting stories out of the white house . They laugh at me. Kelly ann is pitching stuff from Different Directions and the president himself a a source and they complain about fake news but its all from them. I hope youd preferrer to me as a source close to david litt. Its not just the availability, its the pettiness of all of it. People wrote stories from the Obama White House or the Bush White House but its the personal feuds, rather than National Issues and you think are people going to work every day to do . Whats tlr point . And this is a president who likes to see these arguments play out in public. He reads newspapers and likes to see the debate playing out. He likes to see the friction among his advisors and i think thats why so many of his aids and ofilgszs talk to reporters like me and appear on television to make their cases because its a very public process. What a den of vipers. As a private citizen trump had a habit of calling reporters to it liver flattering news about himself but do so while posing as an imaginary pubilousicist named jon barren. He told them in a phone call that most of his fathers assets had been trarz transfoortd him. Okay. Whats your first name, by the way . John. John. Let me tell you what the deal is what the deal is so you understand. Mr. Trump, fist of all fist of l david, i dont think obama ever did this . No. Im going to go out on a limb and say he did not come up with his own fake publicist. I assume he had a sock puppet while he was in character as john barren. He didnt even disguise his voice really. We sort of laugh about it but that is the deaf nigsz of fake news. He is literally lying about his identity to advance a story that may or may not by true. He wrused to do this all the time with the tabloids in new york about his personal life, which women were coming on to him. Ready . Trade craft question. In your reporting on the white house theres all kinds of smart people, do you have a diagram where if you want something on kelly ann, go to these people . If you want something on jared kushner, go to to these people . What you do though is thiaological split among advisors. For trade you know which oneses have a free trade viewpoint and you know where to go for different pieces of information. But its not as tribal as youre mapping out there. Its really not. Thank you. Coming up one shining truth to emerge from this shutdown of the government is the political strength of Speaker Pelosi. Trump sees it, the whole country now sees it. Trump sees it, the whole country now sees it. Hey, who are you . Oh, hey jeff, im a car thief. What . im here to steal your car because, well, thats my job. What . What . . What . laughing what . . What . what . [crash] what . haha, it happens. And if youve got cutrate car insurance, paying for this could feel like getting robbed twice. So get allstate. 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