Lost aircraft. A photographer covering the test flight told nbc news he witnessed a midflight explosion. According to the captain of the kern county fire department, the debris field is spread out over approximately two miles. The ntsb and the faa will send teams to investigate the crash on site. Richard branson, the billionaire founder of the virgin group tweeted his plans to fly to mojave immediately to be with the teams. Branson hoped to ride the first commercial flight on Virgin Galactics planned space program. The companys founder wasnt the only one looking for a ride into space. More than 700 customers have paid as much as 250,000 for a ticket to suborbital space. Joining me tonight on the phone is tom bunn, retired airline captain. Also with us this evening, Anthony Roman who is the ceo and founder of ac roman and associates. Thanks for your time tonight. In the experimental aircraft community, unfortunately these things happen. This is part of the business. Tom bunn, from what youve been able to gather from what is unfolded today, whats your First Impressions of this . Well, my impression is that this is a pretty crazy thing to do. And i know people expect they sign up for a ticket to something branson puts together as if its like buying a ticket on one of his airlines. This is not the same thing at all. You know, we used to im also a therapist as you know. We used consider narcissism as a personality disorder. But narcissism is just considered normal now. It seems to me people want a piece of branson so therefore they want to sign on to do this absolutely insane thing. This is dangerous to get on a rocketpowered vehicle. I mean, a lot of things could have happened here. Could have been mechanical failure. Could have been fuel issues. Could have been structural failure. Theres a lot of stuff here that could have gone wrong. Anthony roman, your organization has been involved in crash investigations. Your take on this . You know, im a commercial pilot as well. And, you know, experimental aircraft, the entire industry is alive and well in the united states. There are manufacturers every day manufacturing kit planes that are put together by general aviation pilots and reasonably safely flown all over the country every day. Space flight, on the other hand, is an entirely different endeavor. It is beyond experimental. It is high risk and failure is expected at particular intervals that are considered a very high rate relative to commercial flying. Okay, mr. Roman. Im going to have to interrupt you. Were awaiting a press conference and that is now underway. Lets go to it. Occurred at approximately 10 10 a. M. At approximately 10 12 we became aware of an inflight anomaly and implemented our preplanned response plan. My team was dispatched to the nor north. The chief will discuss that and the sheriff will discuss his involvement. I had confirmation of a mishap just a few moments later, approximately 25 miles north of the airport and we were given a latitude longitude of potential site. A time like these, those of us in the Aerospace World acknowledge we are in this freely. We recognize the contribution we make to a nation, the traveling public, and the general contribution to an amazing industry that provides transportation to the entire world. But when we have a mishap from the Test Community, we find that Test Community is very small. And we are human. And it hurts. And our hearts, thoughts, prayers absolutely with the families of the victims. We do know that one of the crew members was met by emergency responders, treated on the scene and transported to Antelope Valley hospital. We also know we had one fatality. I want to also acknowledge the artisans, the craftsmen, the engineers, the emergency responders, the technicians, the janitors, everybody in this industry that gives it their all every single day. These parking lots are filled seven days a week. No one is forcing these people to do this. I cant speculate at this time on the cause. I know george is going to address that. Again, chief and donnie, i just want to say thanks to the emergency responders. You guys have been with us and you will be with us every step of the way for years. And to your team personally we say thanks. At this time, turn over to georges statement. Chief. Pardon me. Sheriff. Sheriff donnie youngblood. Kern county sheriff. Thanks to the involvement of the Sheriffs Office in this will be the lead. We i got the call this morning that thered been an anomaly, a mishap. And i flew out, flew around the crash site. Its a large area. The aircraft is in several different pieces. We found one person who obviously was deceased immediately. I do not have the condition we left here it appeared to be major injuries. But we dont know really what that means yet. Our thoughts and prayers are with the family and we hope that the survivor will be just fine. Hello. Mike kho mike khocody. Our department goes ten years working with mojave air and space port. We have done briefings to get ready for a mishap. Its not why we want to stand here today. Weve been here and assisting responders. If there are plans to take an event on the facility, then we take it off the facility. Then our role is rescue. I believe the sheriffs department. Administering care to the survivor. And transferred the care to mercy air 14. Air helicopter for transport. And so we continue to support mojave air support in any way possible. Thank you. Next up kevin mickey like mickey mouse. President is the president of scales composites. Kevin . Afternoon, everybody. To echo what stu said, thanks to all the support we get from the mojave air and space port. I want to say our job continues immediately after locating the crash site we set out to secure the crash site. We expect the ntsb will arrive approximately 7 30 tomorrow morning. We will spend a couple of hours putting together as we continue the investigation which will take several days. We heard that, i guess this particular just like to get the statements and then well take some of your questions, if you dont mind. With all due respect. Ladies and gentlemen, George Whitesides the chief executive of virgin galactic. George . Hello, everybody. Our primary thoughts at this moment are with the crew and family and were doing everything we can for them now. Id like to recognize the work of the first responders. Who we work with in the Antelope Valley for their efforts on behalf of the team. Were also thinking of the team members that we have at the program. I can say Richard Branson is on his way. Hes flying now to mojave and we expect hell be here by tomorrow morning. Space is hard and today was a tough day. All right. Youre watching a press conference at the Mojave Desert air and space port. Theres very Little Information coming out of this. Theres very little they can say, because this mishap took place earlier today. The investigation is going to be underway by the ntsb and the faa en route to the scene. Joining me tonight on the ed show is mikey kay who has visited with mr. Branson, the owner of this entity. Mikey, good to have you. The most valuable piece of information out of this as i see it is going to come from the surviving pilot. I mean, as a pilot myself, when youre taking off, youre reading gauges. I would imagine when youre being separated from a craft thats getting ready to let you go at a higher speed and a higher altitude, theyre probably looking at everything. Pressure gauges, torque, whatever is there in front of them. So it would seem to me that this pilot hopefully he survives and his injuries arent too severe, hes going to be really the most valuable piece of information. Isnt he . Youre absolutely right. There is so much going on when youre going through this type of flight profile. Its important to say youve got a number of companies. This is a huge setback for brandons virgin galactic. Years . Its impossible to say at the moment. But we know he really was the forerunner when it came to investigating, putting people like you and me up into suborbit. I dont mean space. What this whole commercial race, space race is about is actually getting people like you and me up at a hundred kilometers from the earth up to a weightlessness environment for about four to six minutes then coming back to earth. Its not about putting people like you and me to spaces like the space station or the moon. This is a hugely competitive industry. As you rightly say as a pilot or astronaut. During this profile where the spaceshiptwo is launched from the mothership at about 50,000 feet, it then disconnects. Then the engines would then get into action and this thing would go up to 300,000 foot. Theres nothing like that test pilot to be able to come back and give the engineers the information and the actuality of exactly how the aircraft performed, how all of the systems coordinated. And theres a real good chance that this pilot if he survives, could tell engineers this is what happened. Youve just got to go back to the whole anyone whos read the right stuff will have a good understanding of the importance and the significance of having a pilot or astronaut with someone smelling whats going on with the cockpit and gauges. You didnt do that in a drone. Thats why its so clinical to have someone in a seat. For those who are novice and dont follow this an awful lot, the mission here, the end game here is to be able to travel the globe within a matter of minutes. I mean, right now this is so experimental, but at the end of the day, where we want to be 20 years from now is be able to go have lunch in moscow, i guess. I dont know. What about that . Never been to moscow. Ive never been there either. Picked the wrong city. Maybe well go fishing in alaska. I would love to join you for lunch in moscow. There are three Main Companies involved in this space race. First is virgin galactic. They launch the spaceship to from a mothership as weve seen in the footage so far. Then a company like Sierra Nevada that go back to the more usual principles of putting a pod on top of a rocket and that is then physically launched into the atmosphere. Then youve got people like xcor, and they have this called the lxv. A relaunchable vehicle. That is as conventional you can get. It could take off like delta or virgin would from a runway. It goes suborbital for four to six minutes then lands normally. When it comes to what you said which is the ultimate objective which is space travel but with an objective for business to get from one side of the globe to the other, go to china, have a lunch meeting, then get back to new york in the same day. When you say this is a big setback, i think a Big Personality is behind this in mr. Branson. How determined in s this man . Youve spet time with him. I havent met branson himself. Hes a huge advocate of the British Military and what they do. And hes invested a lot in the British Military. Ive had conversations with his team at virgin galactic. Just look at his history. You dont become Richard Branson, a bill gates, a Warren Buffett by succeeding the first time. This guy has failed and failed and failed and then hes come through. And hes pushed himself not just both in a business community, but hes pushed himself physically. Weve seen him going around the globe in balloons. Weve seen some of the flight hes done. Hes the ultimate adventurer. Again, going back to the days of tripp yeager, anyone whos read that book, these things dont come easy. These things are hugely dangerous. But the reasons why these pilots are hired, the reason why god bless his soul, this chap has perished today. The reason he was in that seat was because of experience. And the bottom line is there probably isnt any better to assess the risk than this guy. Thats why he was there. And he would have had a passion for it. He wanted to be there. He wanted to explore that. Thank you so much for coming in. Appreciate it. Coming up, to politics. Mary landrieus comments that ruffled the feathers of our friends. Rapid response weighs in on that. But first walker allies make a last ditch effort to smear his opponent mary burke. Details coming up. Stay with us. Gunderman group is. Gunderman group is. Getting in a groove. Growth is gratifying. Goal is to grow. Gotta get greater growth. I just talked to ups. They got expert advise, special discounts, new technologies. Like smart pick ups. Theyll only show up when you print a label and its automatic. We save time and money. Time . Money . Time and money. Awesome. Awesome awesome awesome awesome all awesome i love logistics. 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In a lastditch effort, Governor Walkers allies are out smearing mary burke forcing her to go on a deference in an article of the wisconsin reporter. Former trek employees claim burke was fired from her family from trek bicycles, European Division in 1993 for financial losses and plummeting morale. Those are some pretty serious accusations. Burke hasnt been shy about touting about her ability to run businesses and also her business experience all the way back in the early 1990s. In the name of responsible journalism, lets take a moment to consider the source. The wisconsin reporter received 191,000 from the Bradley Foundation in 2012. The Bradley Foundation is headed by george ribee. He is chairman of governor Walkers Campaign committee. In the article in question cites Gary Ellerman and three anonymous former employees in the report. Who is Gary Ellerman . Well, hes the chairman of the Jefferson CountyRepublican Party. Ellerman is also a former trek employee who was fired for incompetence in 2004. Ellerman also ran as a sham democratic candidate in the 2012 senate recall primary. And then theres this. This is scott walker and this is Gary Ellerman. A Walker Campaign worker and donor who puts pictures like this on his facebook page. No conflict of interest or ax to grind there. Unfortunately, in the final days of the campaign this story is dominating the airwaves in wisconsin. The two candidates went back and forth on local news where walker is claiming he didnt have anything to do with it. Im certainly happy to answer any questions around this, but these are lies and the voters should look at my track record of exactly what i have accomplished. We havent talked about it because unless somebody can validate it, its not my business. He is a career politician who will do anything to win an election including lies, smears, dragging a great Wisconsin Company through the mud. I dont have any knowledge about that, so ill have to leave that to them. I cant comment on something i dont know much about. This is nonsense six days before an election, baseless allegations that are deterring from the issues, frankly, that are really important. But notice you didnt say walker say, this is not my campaign. You know, it was just arms distance there, Governor Walker. Burke is right. If wisconsin voters are talking about this story, scott walker wont be forced to answer for things like. 250,000 new jobs. Thats my goal. 250,000 new jobs by the end of our first term in office. Our critics say it cant be done. Because the critics were right. With just a couple months left in his term, private sector has increased by 111,000. Far less than the 250,000 jobs promised. Which is why walker has been out spinning the same excuse like a broken record. As i traveled the state four years ago, i decided then and there that i was going to aim high and set a big goal of 250,000 jobs. We set a big goal of creating 250,000 jobs. Because i know wisconsin can do great things. I set high. 250,000 jobs to make up for the jobs lost and dig for the future. Because i believe in the people of the state. I believe in wisconsin. You catch that . Walker wants you to know that was a big goal he set. So he must think that adding 10 million jobs nationally is just a heck of an accomplishment. So big and bold that it was impossible to reach. Walker doesnt have an excuse and he doesnt want to talk about issues because he knows this race is close, too close for comfort. A new marquette poll shows a lead among mary burke. Among registered voters she trails in this race by just one point. Bottom line, burke needs every single registered democrat to turn out on tuesday if she is going to win this election. Which is why former president bill clinton is out in the home stretch trying to rally the base. A governor who knows business, whos created good jobs and helped build a great Wisconsin Company. Whos helped hundreds of kids stay in school and get to college. Who brings people together across party lines with b not dividing them. Sounds pretty good, doesnt it . Well, thats mary burke. If youre ready for a governor who will get up every day thinking about your family and building the middle class, youre ready for mary burke. Joining me tonight, lee saunders, president of ask me. Mr. Saunders, good to have you with us tonight. You have been on record saying that you think Governor Walker is public enemy number one. I believe you have characterized this election as a get back for the middle class. Is this what you really think . Or is this an effort to motivate people to realize whats at stake in this election or both . It really is both. Im glad to be on your show. We have got to motivate and educate and mobilize, organize our base like never before. Not only within afscme but our communities. Weve got to paint the picture of the differences between these two candidates. On one hand youve got Governor Walker who took collective bargaining away from Public Service workers who doesnt believe in the increasing the minimum wage. Who claim that he would create 250,000 jobs in the state of wisconsin. Wisconsin ranks almost dead last in the midwest as far as creation of jobs. A terrible economy continues in that state for working families. He ignored the Medicaid Expansion program, didnt accept that money. Which would have meant 500 Million Dollars to the state. It could have created jobs. And on the other side, mary burke who believes in civil rights and economic rights for everyone. Thats what were fighting for. What has happened to your union in wisconsin since walkers been governor . Well, we have lost our collective bargaining rights, lost the ability to represent our members. But we have a core group of activists who are fighting like never before who are knocking on doors, who are making those phone calls, talking to their coworkers, talking to neighbors and their friends. Talking about the importance of this race. Talking about the fact that we have got to vote on november 4th. Weve got to do early voting in order to change the face of this country. Not only in the state of wisconsin, but across the country. Because there is a wisconsin moment that a number of candidates and a number of governors want to implement if theyre elected or reelected. Weve got to stop that move. So what about this Smear Campaign down the stretch . Walker is trying to distance himself from it. But theres so many connections, the people that are doing it in his campaign. Whap do you make of it . Well, hes connected but this is clearly a diversion. Lets stick with telefacts. Lets stick to the record hes created over the past four years. That record is not good for working families in the state of wisconsin. Its not good for folks who are trying to play by the rules every single day, put food on the table. To try to make ends meet, to try to achieve that american dream. Lets stick to the facts. If we stick to the facts and if we organize our communities and show the differences that exist between these candidates, then i think that we can be victorious and mary burke can be the next governor of the state of wisconsin. Do you think that walker is going to lose . I mean, how close is this going to be . All of these folks that have been lost, you know, membership from your union, are they still engaged to make a change b . Theyre engaged. I was there last week. I attended different events in madison and in milwaukee. Our people are engaged, our community is engaged in the city of milwaukee early voting is very, very high. I think folks get it. They understand that there is an extreme importance to vote in this election. And thats exactly what were going to do. Were knocking on doors. Were making those phone calls. Were educating our communities. This race is going to be extremely close. I dont have a crystal ball. I dont know whos going to win in wisconsin or across this country in these very important governors races. But im telling you working families are coming together and understand the importance of this election. Lee saunders, president of afscme, thank you for coming on. Republicans have a field day over Mary Landrieus race comments. Rapid Response Panel weighs in on the race and elections. Plus a republicans favorite tactic. When in doubt, personally attack a democrat. Louie gohmert lands in pretenders tonight. Stay with us. Were right back. We love our sm. And now telcos using hp Big Data Solutions are feeling the love, too. By offering things like onthespot data upgrades an idea that reduced overcharge complaints by 98 . 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Louisiana senator Mary Landrieu told cnbcs chuck todd one of the reasons president obama is unpopular in her state of louisiana is his race. Being very honest with you, in the south its not always been the friendliest place for africanamericans. Its been a difficult time for the president to present himself in a very positive light as a leader. Its not always been a good place for women to be able to present ourselves. Its more of a conservative place. So weve had to work a little bit harder on that. But, you know, the people trust me, i believe. Really they do. To trust me to do the right thing for the state. And the reality is, the senator from louisiana is right. Race still plays a huge role in politics in the south. Republicans are in denial if they think racism is over. The kids on the kirby couch wasted no time jumping on landrieus comments this morning. Shes saying hey you racists and bigots out there, i need your vote on tuesday. Democrats are facing a dire predicament right now. They lost the young people, latinos are waffling. They are ambivalent. Women are even asking questions. So theyve got to go to their strength, theyve got to go to the africanamerican vote. Louisiana, you know, at least a third of the electorate is black. I mean, that is Mary Landrieus only hope of sustaining. And they are making a very blatant plea for that vote. But, you know, even the general population needs 87 approval among black vote rs. So it makes sense from their point of view demographicicly. Young people are going to the gop . Whered you get that . Same place you were looking for al capone . The louisiana secretary of state released its final report of this years early voting. Black voters only made up about 33 of the overall early voting. They make up about 31 of louisianas registered voters. Mary landrieu is facing a tough reelection battle against bill cassidy. Cassidy also reacted to landrieus interview on fox news. I wish shed focus more on policy instead of insulting it. Were going through the political process to make and change our constitution and were called racist. Were not racist. We just have common sense. Joining me tonight on a rapid Response Panel, political analyst and contributor, and also msnbc contributor and director at lehigh university. Dr. Peterson, sometimes the truth hurts. Whats wrong with what Mary Landrieu said . If anything, this is an understatement. Do a quick history lesson. Transatlantic slavery was developed in the south. Jim crowe laws born in the south. They were the dixie crats. Think about the history of lynches. And look at the criminal Justice System in the south today. Look at Police Brutality today. Look at the eroding public system today. Think of all the efforts by republican legislators to end early voting and disenfranchise largely elderly and africanamerican and latino voters. What she said is so understated when you look at the data around the state across this nation. I think its absurd for anybody to be calling for her to back track or apologize. Zerlina, cassidy said theyre not racist, theyre just using common sense. I mean, thats hogwash, right . I think what this conversation is and i think we cant get zraktsed by what they do every time and say youre playing the race card. This is not necessarily a conversation about individual feelings on behalf of people who follow in the Republican Party. This is about structural equality. Like dr. Peterson said about policy. It is absolutely about policy. So the Republican Party going back to the 1965 Voting Rights act, where they stood in opposition to an increase in access to the voting booth, thats mirrored today with voter suppression. Beyond that, all along being opposed to affirmative action and quotas, demonizing anyone who stood on that side of that issue. Whenever it comes to making the world just a little bit more equal for women, people of color, the gop is on the wrong side of the issue. What about rand paul, dr. Peterson . Its just theres all this outrage all of a sudden about what Mary Landrieu stated factually. The fact is that life in the south for africanamericans has not been easy. As you stated. But rand paul makes comments there as well. What do you make of it . Number one, unfortunately women are much more vulnerable to all kinds of political and public attacks when their lives are in the public sphere. See Hillary Clinton for this. So unfortunately senator landrieu, even though she mentions the gender piece in this, shes subject to that. Her fiercist critics are all male politicians. Somehow rand paul despite what his sort of he kind of waivers here. He tries to reach out to the black community, but he says some of the most horrific things like private restaurants being able to discriminate against black folks. He said that on this network, by the way. He gets that pass because he is a man. The gender piece is big as well. So bobby jindal who is the governor of louisiana called landrieus comments, quote, a major insult to the people of louisiana. What about that . Well, i mean, i think its interesting that so shes insulting people because shes stating a historical fact. Number one, its a historical fact, but its also true that the southern strategy was a thing. They actually did try to pander to white tensions and white races in the south in order to gain votes. Thats something that is a verifiable truth. Thats not an opinion that you state that you can say thats not true. We can look at the documentation that shows that that was an explicit strategy on their behalf. I think the fact of the matter is that racism is a lot more divisive than accusations of racism. Denying Medicaid Expansion to the citizens of louisiana and the state of louisiana is an insult to them. Katrina and the governments response to katrina was an insult to them. Right . There are many ways in which politicals and political figures have insulted the citizens of louisiana. This particular comment is not one of them. Its just the truth. Listen, why cant we have an open conversation about the is . Why is everyone so defensive about it . Their defensiveness, i think speaks to the truth of what shes talking about. We cant even talk about race without going into the history. So does this help or hurt the senator . Sadly because of the Racial Climate in this nation and the ways in which people use race as a political football instead of dealing with racial issues, i think it will stand a chance of hurting her. What do you think . It could hurt her but also remind africanamerican voters in louisiana that they have someone on their side to speak the truth. Thats the political accusations that shes saying this to motivate her base. 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Obamacare is a job killer. Lets shut down the federal epa. I do believe in the right to carry. And i believe in the right to defend myself and my family, whether its from an intruder, or whether its from a government, should they decide that my rights are no longer important. In rural america, you got to go to the guns and talk about that. Shockingly, this race is close. The latest poll out of iowa, has joni ernst leading by 2 points with just days away from the election, those numbers could get a shock. Former president bill clinton will return to iowa saturday for a barbecue fundraiser for braley, this will be his third trip to iowa. For more let me bring in lionel, legal commentator, news decoder, holy smokes. Thats easy for you to say. The cast of tea partiers is getting wilder by the moment. Shes got her washington bullet points. How out of the mainstream is she . Apparently, what scares me and you as well, they seem to be neck and neck. But heres what i dont understand, big ed. Tea partiers believe in the constitution, the essentials of this country, yet whenever they dont like something that is federally mandated, they say, lets rebel against it. Theres this pesky thing under article 6 which says the federal government is supreme to the state. Isnt it funny how they have their cake and eat it too, willy nilly . Thats right. Im either go to defy it and nullify it, or if i like the legislation, ill go along with it. So does it surprise you that this is even close, as far out of the mainstream as this candidate is . Yes. We may laugh at this, talk about castrating hogs, and using that as a syllogism to legislation. But apparently, were out of the mainstream. If there was a lopsided differential, i would say, maybe people would be taken aback by this rhetoric. But i dont think they are. Do hog farmers really see the world that differently . On that point of view, they do, perhaps. Bill clintons going to iowa. Whats it mean . Rock star. Rock star. Without him, without his endorsement, not good. Hes had an impact in kentucky as well. Hes been there a few times. In fact, the governor of knkt told me that was a gamechanger and really motivated the Democratic Party in the state, and tightened that race quite a bit. Clinton won iowa twice, so hes got friends in the state. Whether its going to have coattails or motivate people to vote remains to be seen. What do you think about turnout this year . Im hoping its going to be high. But this is the problem. High for whom . Do we get well thought, well educated, well researched, is that what high turnout means . Or do we want low turnout . But when it comes to bill clinton, without bill, there aint no race. Theres another guy out there thats a little goofy, steve king. Goofy . Dont hold back. Dont sugar coat. Hes got a lot of famous saying. Hes got donald trump out there. Listen to this. Today im here to support steve king, a special guy, a smart person with really the right views on almost everything. Wow this is Donald Trumps turn to the far right. I dont want to rain on their kings parade, but if you watch that in its entirety. He says, yeah, you go ahead, smart guy, a lot of good ideas, and he inches his way away from him. Watch the whole video. He didnt necessarily endorse whole heartedly. He just says smart guy. What you say in a receiving line at a wedding. So this is mr. King saying good things about trump. Donald trump has made his mark wherever hes gone. Time after time when the hand of donald trump touched something, it turned into something good for america. Hes looking at him, like, what is this . Is trump running for president . I hope so. But why would he . First of all, financial disclosure, coming clean as far as financial deals. He probably wont. But just dream. I think hes one of the most exciting people, because whenever he speaks, i didnt say good now, ed. Youre giving me this look. Just in terms of adding the excitement to a race, he is it. But just notice the body language there. He had the lean, no doubt about that. He certainly did. Lionel, thanks for coming tonight. Thank you. Politicsnation with reverend al sharpton starts right now. Thanks to you for tuning in. We start tonight with breaking news. Virgin galactic spaceship two exploded and crashed today in californias Mojave Desert. At least one person is dead and one is seriously injured at the hospital. These are the first images of debris. The Space Tourism rocket was on a test run when it exploded. The company said it suffered, a, quote, serious anomaly. Richard branson tweeted that hes flying to mojave following crash of spaceship to be with the team. The national