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numbering will be in today's rewrite. today in iraq, the islamic state's advance on baghdad has been ever threatening, and the most shocking high school the football hazing ever is now a criminal case. the obama administration is sticking with its anti-isis strategy. >> isis continues its assault on the syrian town of kobani. >> it is one community and a tragedy of what is happening there. >> they're trying to build this coalition to fight isis. >> it is going to take a period of time to bring the coalition thoroughly to the table. >> secretary of state john kerry made it clear kobani is isn't a priority. >> to begin the focus where it should be, which is in iraq. >> what is the price of inaction in syria. >> just three weeks to go until election day. >> in the second confirmed case of ebola in the unit. but first -- >> seven new jersey high school students have facing criminal charges. including aggravated sexual assault and criminal restraint. >> we decided to cancel our season based upon the information that was provided to us. >> some of the allegations are perverse, brutal. >> the superintendent's decision to cancel the remainder of the season created a huge divide in the town. >> the football season is a very small issue compared to what happened. under orders from president bush but without a declaration of war, of course, the united states began bombing iraq on march 19, 2003. 11 years later, the united states is still bombing iraq with no real hope of ever being able to make iraq a safe and secure place to live. and today baghdad is in danger from the islamic state fighters as nbc's richard engle is reporting from iraq. >> reporter: anbar province, leaders there are calling for american intervention, for international air strikes to set back isis. and without them urgently, these leaders say that many more parts of the province could fall, which would give isis a large swath of territory, bringing them right to the edge of the iraqi capital. >> inside syria, the united states and arab coalition partners carried out 2air strikes this weekend against islamic state fighters who are trying to take the small city of kobani. turkish troops remain just across that border watching all of that happen. joining me now is lathe al cory. and david rhoads. this closing in on baghdad is the gravest situation faced yet. >> in many different ways, absolutely. the islamic state looks like baghdad has the future of its capital. it has intensified its operations in northwestern iraq and anbar province where they have multiple the training camps and a route for smuggling. so it's a massive operational territory for it. but also it's a very heavily sunni area where they were able to capitalize on the animosity on these tribes have against the shiite-led government. so it has had multiple success fronts in northwestern baghdad, and we are, we are watching very closely. baghdad is going to be taken. >> do you think they can take baghdad? >> i don't think they can seize full control of baghdad. >> partial? >> they can certainly cause some havoc there where security forces can be confused and don't know how to act. >> and end up pushing them back into kind of a green zone? >> absolutely. >> david, do you think they can take baghdad? or how much will they take? >> i think they will encircle baghdad. they tried to do this during the war when there were american troops there. in the middle of this is the largest american embassy in the world. there are apache helicopters sitting at the airport to deal with that possibility. can the united states get its people out of baghdad if, you know, isis lays siege to the city. and this is, leon panetta says they are very well founded. they've formed the achilles heel. and they're pushing turkey, a separate topic, but things aren't going well in syria because turkey's not really helping the coalition at this point. >> to baghdad airport, baghdad airport is more vulnerable than baghdad itself at this point, right? >> certainly baghdad airport is very vulnerable. >> the point there being when you get into this saigon-like evacuation of american personnel from baghdad airport, they could capture the airport more easily than the rest of the city. >> they can certainly cause a sense of insecurity question can prompt the closure of the airport for good or until further notice. but i think what they have done by establishing pockets of territory where they can operate, going all the way to, you know, southern of the euphrates, near the syrian borders, they're able to create that route they call the euphrates province. but i don't think they have the human capability of taking over baghdad just yet. >> david, what do you expect is going on in the national security council meetings in the white house over this very issue, over the closing in on baghdad, what are our options as this, as they watch this happen? >> the frustrations that i would think with the performance of the iraqi security forces. >> the exact opposite in terms of the fighting spirit. >> to be blunt, i'm no fan of the islamic state, but their commanders have smart strategies, they're fighting very aggressively, moving very quickly and very clearly, and it's the opposite of the iraqi forces. and can you do this without american ground forces. and the administration has said over and over they will not put in ground forces. but the strategy so far is not working. it was not a good day for the administration. >> the administration and most western commentators just want to call the islamic state a bunch of crazy terrorists. when i hear this about their discipline, about the precision, you know, the smart tactical choices they make in terms of their fighting, especially compared to the iraqi army, there comes a point where a bunch of crazy terrorists isn't an adequate stripdescription fo this. >> it down-plays the threat. but i think they are one of the most powerful forces in the region. it's a force to be reckoned with. and they have operated on multiple fronts, whether militarily, on the financial scene by selling oil and the black market. but they've succeeded in radicalizing a great numbers around the world where we see pledges of allege anance to giv more credibility and attract more supporters. and i think that's going to have a massive impact on u.s. interests around the world and not just in syria and iraq. we're going to see those new groups pledging allegiance kidnap westerners. whether in the gulf region or central and southeast asia. so the islamic state is not functioning only on the front of iraq and syria. if's really operating internationally at this point. >> what we have in response to isis, isis who is crucifying people by the side of the road, raping women by the thousands, torturing women and burying children alive in the name of islam, we have a hash tag and we have some demonstrations. i support the hash tag and the demonstrations, but we need a ground swell of repudiation for this kind of behavior. >> it goes to the point of, okay, the bombs are a tack cal device to try to control the movements of the islamic state, but it doesn't go into how the islamic state is getting its job done and getting its recruits. >> they are very effective in terms of social media, online recruitment. and, again, this idea of getting allies in the area to work with us is not really working. they're seen as this new force. the saudis that are bombing with us, they're not making head way, i think, this new coalition in terms of stopping them or countering them ideologically. >> i know the state department is up on its open with the online campaign against the islamic state. i'm sorry. it just seems laughable compared to what they've been able to achieve and what you just described. they're reaching far beyond the battlefield. >> that's absolutely correct. the digital outreach theme is day and night on these internet forums and platforms trying to -- >> and they should be. i don't mean to knock -- it's easy to joke about that. it would be terrible if they weren't out there trying to have a presence in that. but compared to the islamic state and digital media. >> but a deradicalization process which will take generations cannot take place led by a super power. it has really to be a grassroots campaign. it has to be from the communities that are being impacted by the islamic state terror. especially -- >> what are the prospects of that as sam harris called it a ground swell. you called it a grassroots campaign. >> you'll have the youngsters themselves who are potentially victims of this kind of recruitment become those who are fighting isis on the cyber fronts. let's remember that the majority of isis supporters are young people who grew up in the age of technology, in the social media world. so we need people who are in that kind of caliber, who are able to use social media to de-radicalize and people who are not exactly sponsored by government but sponsored by local communities who really want to repel this kind of radical -- >> but they're going to have to do that anonymously online or they will be in fear of their lives. >> we were not going to get involved in syria, it wasn't a problem. nearly 200,000 people have died. and now we're saying come join us and fight isis and yuck people are either scared or don't believe us at this point. >> thank you both very much for joining me tonight. >> thank you. coming up, our old friend mitt romney desperately wants to be asked to run for president again, so i will, once again. beg him to run in tonight's re-write. and the man who took us inside the genius of steve jobs will join us with a more important lesson about innovation and how it really happens. and later, the latest, and this time the best movie about what the internet has done to us all. and yes, the movie does have an awful lot of porn sites in it. health can change in a minute. so cvs health is changing healthcare. 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hazing allegations surfaced, an assistant coach for the football team was arrested last month and charged with possession of steroids. testosterone and syringes. there are calls, now, for the t entire football staff to be fired. joining me now is a sportswriter for and councilman. the football coaching staff now, as this story develops and you see how widespread this hazing was, how awful it was, it's happening in a locker room, after practices. it's hard to imagine that the coaching staff knew nothing about it. >> the configuration of the locker room at zairville high school is a little bit unique, meaning that the coach's office is separate from the actual locker room itself. so it is plausible that they weren't present in the locker room when this alleged activity took place. >> david mcgill, what is your, are you hearing from families, you know, information that indicates there should be more attention paid to coaching staff on this is this. >> well, what i am hearing is yes, there are questions to be answered by the coaching staff. greg is right. that is the way the offices are situated in the school, it is different than in other areas. but there are still, even though we are before a prosecutor now, there are still many more questions that have to be answered. and, again, these are allegation, still allegations even though arrests have been made now. >> and, greg, seven arrests, three for sexual assault. and the information that you're developing indicates that this is a tradition that covers, that is not new to this team. >> we're not certainty juncture. the middlesex prosecutor's office is continuing to investigate. they used the words pervasive and wide scale. so we are under the impression, that yes, these incidents did take place prior to this season. but we're waiting for more information from the pros kurt's office. >> that would indicate there is the possibility here to reach back to people who graduated from that high school by now and who are a few years out. and you couldconceiveably the develop cases against them. >> oh, yes. it could extend from when the word hazing came up, unfortunately, all i pictured was shaving cream and football helmets. i never imagined something like this was going to occur, luckily or, i do give a lot of credit to dr. lad for making the quick decision to do what he did. i was for the season ending right then and there, because this was a team, and everything trickles down. and everyone pays the price unfortunately. >> as it falls to me to explain to the audience what we're talking about. when we did the story last week i was able to have one of the reporters who broke the story read from his story. it was so shocking i couldn't say it. what we're talking here is they take a freshman, throw him over a bench naked in the locker room and he is anally penetrated by the fingers of other players, and this is what the sexual assault charges are about, and this repeated instances of this, and this was being presented as the hazing process for football players on this team. >> i mean, the report to which you refer did describe in graphic detail. and the community was outraged and horrified. the interesting thing about it, mr. o'donnell, the three words that dr. labbe used to describe it was serious, unforeseen consequences which lid to the postponement or cancellation of that season. the ambiguity confused the people and they didn't understand, why are you postponing the season. once the reality set in, the pendulum swung. >> i saw a line about the season being suspended. and before anybody knew what this was about. but david mcgill, i got to tell you, i am not easily shocked, and i never had any hazing in any of the high school teams that i was on. i actually went to three different high school, was on a couple of different football teams, baseball team, basketball teams. >> right. >> and there was never any hazing in it. and i'm sure there's hazing around the country in different places. but i, there's no what anybody can tell me this is something that's happened, that is kind of common or grows out of some other tradition and makes some sort of crazy sense if you're following some tradition of hazing. this is wildly beyond the imagination of anybody i ever knew in a high school locker room. >> mr. o'donnell, this is beyond the pale, and as greg just said, once the, in the beginning when dr. labbe explained this, there was a lot of confusion and anger, but once it was explained to the parents what the allegations were, how far the, allegedly, the students had gone, as he said, the pendulum did start to swing the other way. last night we had a march for hope around the sayreville lake. we took a mile walk. and ostensibly, as you take that first step in a thousand mile walk. because it's going to take a lot of healing. and it's going to take a lot of compassion and understanding. but before that, there has to be a full investigation. >> yeah. look. these parents had enough to worry about in the possible brain damage of their sons on that team. this is just beyond -- i just can't conceive. >> i'm glad you bring up the victims, too. i think it's very important. >> thank you both very much for joining me tonight. >> thank you very much, sir. coming up. where do you think this thing came from? the iphone? yeah. steve jobs had a lot to do with it, a lot. but it wasn't just him. the real story of innovation is going to be told to us tonight by the man who told us the real story of steve jobs. walter isaacson's going to join me. and later, the hacking and posting of thousands of snapchat photos. are you worried about those photos? there's a movie that's going to make you worry about those things even more and worry about what the internet has done to you, done to us all. that's coming up. a party? hi. i'm new ensure active clear protein drink. clear huh? my nutritional standards are high. i'm not juice or fancy water. i've got 8 grams of protein. twist 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now walter isaacson is telling us a larger, more important truth about innovation. it is the fruit of something much bigger than individual genius. joining me now is walter isaacson, author of the innovators. how a group of hackers, geniuses and geeks created the digital revolution. this is fabulous, and i had the joy of sitting and listening to you, non-stop, for about an hour recently going on to a rapt audience about this book and about the unsung heroes in here, and we learned a lot of names that we've never heard. you've got the bill gates story in here in detail. you've got a lot of those stories. but the unsung heroes of how the internet was created, of how technology has been driven forward, and the very creation of the kpurt age. >> we all think of, we biographers sort of distort history a bit. we find some genius and we say in a garage or garrett, that this person changed things. the real way innovation happens -- >> once you say benjamin franklin, you have limited the frame of what happened. >> you want to get all the teams and collaborators. and as you said, the unsung heroes. and there are people i had never heard of, lick lick lighter, this guy from missouri who comes up with the interactive computer with the screen and internet, doing it when he's at m.i.t. and the defense department. and i wanted to show that progress of how a machine's become more personal and how people work together and collaborate to create these things. >> and there is no patent holder on the biggest things that have occurred in our lifetimes. >> right. >> the computer. >> one thing was a patent dispute over the original computer. because this guy invents something in a basement in iowa. then this person from penn looks at it and gathers information from all sorts of other places and actually creates a computer, there are all sorts of women and men who pull it together. and yet, then there's a patent dispute about it. and to me, the patent dispute is irrelevant. it's a notion of how people really worked together to invent, as you said, everything from the iphone to the kpurt. >> you weren't the first person to write a book about benjamin franklin. but you are the first person to go into this territory. >> nobody has really written a back about the digital revolution as a whole. we talk about the american revolution, the french revolution, the industrial revolution, the scientific revolution. we all know about george washington. to me, this revolution is just as interesting as the scientific revolution, the industrial one or the american revelation in some ways. >> in the science center at harvard, there is this giant thing that is one of the very first computers. was that harvard's first computer? >> it was the mark one, done at harvard in the late 1930s, and it's sort of the first digital ha she machine like that. >> and it's been up there since they built the science center? and you go up there and start digging into the history of that machine, and you discover the contribution that women made to this, and there's not a single photograph of any woman contributing -- >> well now there is. >> thanks to you. >> grace hopper was one of the women who programmed that computer. >> great character. >> great character in the book. she's a math major, teaches math. pearl harbor happens. she abandons her husband and job and joins the navy, and she ends up at harvard, programming this computer. now the -- >> assigns her to this program. >> assigns her to this program with howard akin who is a professor at harvard and commander in the navy now because they're doing it together. and the boys with their toys thought that hardware was the most important thing. but it was the women who realized, you have to reprogram this thing. and this was a reprogrammable computer, so she does the programming of it and eventually helps create coebal. they're having grace hopper day at harvard. i think it's important that women have heroes, too, in the debl tal revolution. >> it's so amazing to me that there's the harvard history department, and it takes walter isaacson to just kind of nose around. >> i don't want to say that i -- >> there's got to be, they have that wall of heroes, pictures of there, and not one woman in the picture. and grace hopper has now taken her place in those photographs. >> right, including a lot of other women who programmed and at the university of penn pe pennsylvania. she was gene parbbar tick. she came from a small town in missouri. she got to go to missouri state college and become a math major. she saw an ad that said we need mathematicia mathematicians, goes to penn and is the person who does the ballistic missile programming. nowadays that school costs $14,000. and i worry that we're not creating the next generation of jenning jennings. >> the lesson is innovation. everyone says we should teaching this in schools more than we do. what goes on in here is teaching. we teach this individual learning process, and then send people out into the world where they discover you don't do it alone. >> the best way of teaching and you start seeing it now in some colleges. harvard's doing it in an interductry course is to put together a team. people say how do you grade that? you don't. you just say, you're supposed to work together as a team. you're supposed to share credit. most of the heros in this book were better at sharing credit than trying to grab it. >> seven minutes as before i started talking about the innovators, you were number ten on the amazon best seller list. ahead of you, number seven, rush limbaugh. number four, bill o'reilly. come on, everybody. let's push the innovators up, get him up into o'reilly territory in the amazon list. it's by walter isaacson. thank you very much. >> thank you. it's great to see you. coming up, in the re-write, a very innovative presidential candidate, mitt romney, he is almost running for president again. he just wants you to talk him into it. and 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>> yeah. if someone is sending photos to your daughter. >> yes, but i'm also actually wondering about if she were to send her own. >> oh. i see. >> but if she were to take a picture of herself in a bathing suit. >> before you go, i'm going to give you a pamphlet about the dangers of selfies. >> needless to say, after what happened to jennifer lawrence no one needs a pamphlet about the dangers of selfies. and if you are worried about going to bed and thinking about those snapchat photos that you trook still floating around the internet, then you need a couple hours in a dark room with a new movie to contemplate how it all came to this. joining me now, the golden globe winner, jason wrightman. you start off with thank you for smoking, which, since i worked in washington, it's a movie i knew a lot about. the world of a lobbiest. then up in the air. >> i live up in the air. >> still covering your life. >> but now you've lost me completely. it's this internet porn stuff like i didn't know. >> you'd never believe it, but there's pornography on the internet. >> i'm going to theorize that there is a way in which this is your most ambitious film, especially when you start off with shots of the known universe. >> right. >> and start, because these are the other stories are, they are framed by the lives of those people in those stories. we're not suggesting that everyone is living that kind of cloony kind of life in "up in the air." but this is a movie that includes experiences that we are all having every day. men, women and children. i'm going to tell you the story of the human race. >> it's a marketing ploy. this movie is for everybody. just buy a ticket now. >> right. but i loved this movie. we just saw jennifer garner playing the prudest prude we've seen in film in a long time. >> in the 1950s, she'd be the mom who said that rock and roll is the delve. -- devil. >> she's doing the thing that most of us never figure out that we can do or even want to do. she's monitoring every single thing her daughter's doing on line. >> right. and i think any parent right now, including myself, has an instinct to do that. because it's scary. we live in the first generation of parents who really don't have any set standard of rules for the internet for their kids. >> the casting here is just wonderful. adam sandler, not in an adam sandler movie. >> sandler like you've never seen him before. >> and he's great. jennifer garner we mentioned, the sublime rosemary dewitt is here, one of the great independent movie queens. >> it's nice of you to say that. she is one of our greatest actresses and doesn't get enough credit for that. >> she tends to be in the smaller film noirs. >> breaking bad. >> every one of them is having things happen on the internet and affecting their lives in ways they don't like and some of them reaching out to the internet in ways they think they'll like. >> i wanted to make a movie about what it's like to be alive in 2014. whether you're a young person falling in love or a parent or a child. you can't really make a movie about what it's like to be alive right now without featuring about how it is to be online or how it pushes us together or apart. >> the dad is looking for porn online and stumbles upon his son's porn online. >> the first generation in which sons do not find their father's pornography but fathers find their son's. >> and emma thompson. >> yeah. >> and i'm not going to say what she does in the movie. but is she in the movie -- i have a theory about why emma was cast specifically. it seemed to me that you wanted to hear words like masturbation said in a very aristocratic. >> that's the only reason i made the movie, you cut me. i had a delicious ploy to try to get emma to say some awful thing. she actually represents, i mean, you open by saying some very lovely things about the film that i think are very true. this one looks that humanity as a whole. it starts in space looking back at earth. and emma is the voice of all of us, the narrater. we have instant communication. there's a reason why we look at these devices so much. we prevent ourselves, we stumble over getting closer to one another. >> and she is wonderfully non-judgmental in every single filthy thing she describes. >> give me your number after the show. i will reach out to her and get her to read some things into your voice mail. >> but the i'm have interested in adam sandler's performance here. and what was involved in kind of making him comfortable. this is not the strike zone adam sandler you expect. >> he's a great actor, and it just takes trust. daw8a

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