Set your alarm for 5 00 amish. Npr has announced at dawn they are going to release the poll that you were just talking about. Oh, theyve got a poll. A national poll, it will tell us whether there are five or six people in that nevada nbc debate,s in nbc debate tonight. And we know that npr is going to release that. There may be more than that poll. Sure. If he makes it at the npr, it doesnt matter, Everything Else will be great. He said hell show up for it even though hes not in the running in nevada, hes not one of the possible candidates there, so there could be an extremely intense day thats normally called debate prep, but will really be bloomberg prep for five candidates who will probably think thats the place to aim on wednesday night. If nothing else, the democratic process, the capital D Democratic Party process is laying waste to the idea that democracy is a stayed and predictable and boring affair avenue day is a roller coaster with this one and nobodys wearing seat belts. Ive given up predicting. Tonights last word at the end of this hour will be golf. Well discuss why golf should be for the First Time Ever a serious issue in a president ial campaign. Because by election day, donald trump will have spent more days of his presidency playing golf than the number of workdays in a year. He has played golf in a way that spends more taxpayer money on golf than any taxpayer in history. And most of the expenses from Donald Trumps golf life goes to donald trump. Donald trump corrupt golf hustling of the american taxpayer is the most easily explained corruption in the entire Trump Presidency. Its the easy one. And there is at least one democrat who knows exactly how to attack him on that as we will show you at the end of this hour. It is Election Night in america. And more votes have been cast in tonights election than all of the votes in the Iowa Caucuses and the New Hampshire primary combined because it is Election Night tonight in california. Were almost 1 million votes have already been cast in early voting and it will continue to be Election Night every night in california right through tuesday march 3rd, when california will begin counting the election returns on super tuesday in the most important primary of all, the one with 415 delegates. The california primary. They will be counting votes in the texas primary on the same night, march 3rd. The second most delegates, 228 delegates at stake. And texas also has early voting. Thanks to early voting, it is now and will be Election Night in america every night between now and the first week of june. When the new jersey primary will award 126 delegates and the Virgin Islands caucus is at the end of this week of june, will award the final six delegates in the chase for the democratic nomination for president of the United States. Every night now in america at kitchen tables. People are staring at president ial primary ballots and deciding the future of the country. Deciding the future of the rule of law. Deciding what it means to protect and defend the constitution of the United States, against all enemies foreign and domestic, who is the breast person to do that . As the president ial oath of office swears the president to do . And the democratic president ial primary . What makes this the most difficult choice for voters according to polls, is not sorting out the complexity of the candidates policy proposals, its not that. Thats not what weighs most heavily on voters as they stare at their ballots, according to what theyre telling pollsters. The number one issue according to polling among democrat irk president ial primary voters, number one is beating donald trump. Thats the most important thing, getting donald trump and his children and Steven Miller and trumpism out of the white house. And democratic president ial primary voters are right to concentrate on that. First of all, because that in and of itself would be a huge governing accomplishment. Political campaigns always get too caught up in the policy proposals of the candidates and never emphasize enough the other side of our politics, which is equally important. The two sides of our politics are what you are in favor of and equally importantly, what you are opposed to. What you will prevent from happening. Sometimes the most important thing you can do in Political Office is to simply stop a bad thing from happening. The most important thing that john mccain good in his entire political career, his entire 31 year career in the United States senate. The most important thing he did was not push through a john mccain policy proposal and get it passed into law. The most important thing senator john mccain ever did was say no. He said no at 1 29 in the morning. Thats when john mccain turned his thumb down and voted no on the repeal of obamacare, he voted no to ripping Health Care Away from millions of americans. Thats what the next democratic president will be doing to all things trump, saying no, saying no more trumpism, no more trump nominations to the United States supreme court. No more federal judges appointed who dont even meet the minimal standards set by the american bar association. No more budget busting Corporate Tax cuts, no more threats to take your Health Care Away, millions of Peoples Health care aw away. No more babies in cages, no more muslim bans. No more celebrating, no more rage tweeting at football players. No more tweeting at the attorney general to lower a sentencing recommendation for the president s convicted felon friends. No more of that, no more idiotic childish behavior with the murderous north korean dictator. No more nonstop pathological lying day in and day out of the president of the United States, just think about what one day in america would be with no more of that. And thats just the tip of the iceberg of trumpism that would be instantly banished from the white house. If a democrat takes the oath of office at the next president ial inauguration. Voters are very right to say that that is the most important thing weighing their vote. And theyre doubly right if Mitch Mcconnell remains the majority leader of the United States senate. Not one ledgive proposal has a chance of becoming law if Mitch Mcconnell is still in place in the United States senate. Every single democrat has a much more progressive tax policy than president obama or president bill clinton before him. And not one sentence of democratic tax policy will become law if Mitch Mcconnell is still the majority leader of the senate next year. Every one of the candidates has a more Progressive Health care policy than obamacare. None of that can become law if Mitch Mcconnell still controls the senate and voters know that, so most voters are not working very hard to sort out the differences because they know that a democratic president will sign into law whatever nancy pelosi can pass on to the house of representatives which will only matter if the democrats manage to win control of the United States senate. Tomorrow morning at dawn as i told rachel, npr will are release i releasing the candidates. The five candidates who currently qualify for wednesday nights debate might become 6. Mike bloomberg may be promoted, the candidates qualifying for wednesday nights debate. In descending order of their current delegate count which is the most important way to look at these candidates now. Pete buttigieg, Bernie Sanders, elizabeth warren, Amy Klobuchar and joe biden. And possibly wednesday night Mike Bloomberg will join them. Leading off our discussion tonight, ruth marcus. Deputy editorial page editor, sam stein at the daily beast, all three are msnbc analysts, also joining us here in new york is mark thompson, host of the make it plain daily pod cast. I want to start with you, youre a veteran of president ial campaigns, what is it like tonight as youre two nights away from the next big debate. These candidates all saw the kind of klobuchar surge earned in the last debate in New Hampshire. What is it that theyre focusing on for wednesday night and hoping to carry them into victory saturday in nevada. Its a tough situation. I did debate prep for the obama campaigning in 2008 and 2012. At this stage in the primary, its complicated. On the one hand youre delivering a message to nevada voters, theyre up next, theyre going to caucus. You have to know after you get past nevada and south carolina, this race Goes National almost immediately, with the super tuesday primaries, the california prize that you highlighted in your opening. Youre speaking to two audiences. Youre trying to get some momentum, speak to the issues you know matter, youre trying to capture the National Narrative and national momentum. You see them doing this, my one concern i see with some of the campaigns is, theres a chasing of the shiny object. Meanwhile, Bernie Sanders is coasting toward a nomination, if you project through the next several contests. The most important thing is, and obama was good at this, deliver your message, make your closing sale to the vote irs and deliver your message to the rest of the country and dont get knocked off course by whats dominating the media possession. The debaters on wednesday night, theyll be thinking about the nevada voters, in a way, theyve never had to think about them less in the sense that when theyre delivering their debate performance wednesday night, there are more voters in california watching that debate than will vote in nevada or any of the other states, the stakes could not be higher as they speak to these voters around the country. Thats absolutely right. And as ben suggested, theyre going to be likely turning a lot of their focus, i hope hell be there, because its really time for him to enter the fray to come out from behind the checkbook and behind the ads and to start answering questions from voters, from people like us, and in his rivals for the presidency. And so theyre going to be oddly enough, a lot of the focus, if hes in the debate, mayor bloomberg is going to be on somebody whos not actually on the ballot in nevada, but who is going to be on the ballot in california. Its an odd contest that has a bunch of different audiences. Republican voters taught their party a lesson four years ago, which is the past doesnt matter, we do not care that donald trump has spent most of his life apolitical or not a republican, we dont care that hes spent most of his life supporting abortion rights and now has flipped. We only care what he says today that he will do tomorrow. In wednesdays debate, we will see as weve seen before, a lot of concentration on the past. On peoples records and what it is. You can go to Bernie Sanders who has never been a democrat ever. And who was very pro nras way of looking at Gun Legislation many years ago, but isnt any more. Elizabeth warren was a long time ago in her life. Mayor bloomberg was a republican like yesterday, seemingly weeks ago, i guess its years ago now. How much should all of this record matter versus what the candidate says he or she is in favor of now and will do in the job . Well, thank you for having me, lawrence. Its complicated. Yeah, it is. Very complicated. I havent sorted it out, its a jump ball here. I think inevitably, people are looking at everything. Because people are looking at everything, ben is right, this is going to go very quickly, south carolina, and then just a few days later, super tuesday, weve invited all the candidates in our annual jubilee in selma. When is that . That will be february 27th to march 1st. We march across the bridge to commemorate bloody sunday, then we said, rather than having a photo op on the bridge. Lets talk to the citizens of selma, where Voting Rights were born in 1965. What ive looked at, though, honestly, is that at super tuesday, at the latest lawrence there still wont be a clear path for anyone to get the required number of del gas unless they win 55 percent in every primary caucus after. We are headed toward a brokered convention. If it doesnt go down on the first ballot, the super delegates come in on the second ballot, and you have a big problem. Bernie has a lot of supporters and the other candidates do as well. Theyre still not feeling the super delegates. If it comes down to that, i dont know where this is going to end up. Also, what marcus said is true, its time for bloomberg to come out from behind the checkbook, there are some things in his past that are quite damning. Especially when we talk before stop and frisk, and muslim surveillance, if that is going to keep coming up, and more and more of that keeps coming out, even if he is the nominee, i dont know that the base is not affected by that. Apathy doesnt come into play, i think theres still a lot more that needs to be worked out on this. Its been relatively easy up until now, to get the candidates to say, when questioned, at least, will you support whoever the democrats nominate . Mike bloomberg has made some of these candidates want to duck that question for the moment. Well, yes and no, the one campaign thats really taking a contrast to bloomberg aggressively right now, is Bernie Sanders campaign. And the question was posed to a senior strategist jeff weaver, would you accept bloombergs promise to donate Copious Amounts of money to the democratic cause if hes not the nominee, and jeff weaver said no. Thats sort of tricky, because you cant coordinate with bloomberg what he spends on the case. By and large, the field has been fairly committed to unifying the nominee. Maybe not bernies surrogates, but bernie himself has been up front about unity, regardless of whether he wins or not. The question you alluded to early on, what is the case theyre making to the voters to get them to support them, even in these debates, and then of course to the super delegates as well. What ive noticed from just talking to voters on the trail. And maybe you have too, voters more than any elections are now considering themselves pundits. And theyve engaged in this subjective exercise of trying to figure out which of these candidates is the most electable. East of these candidates can make a case for the electabil y electability. We end up in talking past each other now, these voters do, my guys the woman im supporting is most electable. Its difficult to have a persuasive moment unless you have it on a National Stage like Amy Klobuchar did in the New Hampshire debate. When i was in New Hampshire, i found a voter of every stripe to talk about their favorite candidate and why they are reluctant to vote for their favorite candidate, because they think someone else might be stronger against donald trump. I had bernie voters say, i think someone else may be stronger against trump. People who really want pete, really want elizabeth warren, really want joe biden, drifting toward someone else, because of what sam just called the pundit thing, where they all now and its because they feel this giant weight of responsibility, they have to pick someone to beat trump. Its a combination of feeling that responsibility. And also the normal human instinct to go with a winner, i talked with a woman in New Hampshire who, this is before she started to go up in the polls, i really like amy, but i think she doesnt really have a chance, so im with pete. This was at a buttigioughuttigi. Its a crazy way to vote, theyre not the pundits, theyre the voters, we are trying to predict what theyre going to do and not the other way around. I think the urgency of this moment has increased the size. And to go to that, i think theres a really potentially dangerous situation arising here. And its that Bernie Sanders, i think, as ben alluded to earlier is going to have a real challenge in a general election campaigning against President Trump. I think a bigger challenge than some of the other potential democratic candidates. At the same time, mayor bloomberg is coming in so strong, if he is able to blot out the ability of nonbernie candidates to grow and compete on some any kind of unequal Playing Field on super tuesday, and he becomes the nominee, hes the candidate who the bernie supporters, no matter what senator sanders himself says, theyre going to have the hardest time supporting, that creates a fractured situation, whether or not we get to a contested convention, or if something is some agreement is agreed to before we get to second ballots. Its a potential real potential for division that should have everybody worried. Weve seen this phenomenon before, where the voter had a favorite that was leaning in the other direction. The voter was afraid that the favorite couldnt win. That was the classic case of barack obama who had to convert people into believing that he could win. Including in very large numbers, black people who were not on his side when his many were, but many were not on his side when his campaign began. Because of that doubt, the one i like really cant win. Absolutely. As a matter of fwakt, before iowa, in 2008. The majority of americans were with hillary clinton, barack obama and Michelle Obama went on 60 minutes and acknowledged that. It was after he won iowa, black voters were like, wow this can happen. The fact of the matter is, bernie has is generational. Bernie has a lot of young people, and they need to be engaged and voting in 2020, if it appears had a hes been locked out, theyll be disaffected. Bloomberg on the other hand has affected a lot of young people through stop and frisk, it locked them out. So it gets very complicated and for what does it profit a party, to get a nominee, if it loses unity. The Bloomberg Sanders ticket, right . Easy to put that together. Were going to have to leave it there. Ben rhodes, ruth marcus, you have to identify on shows like this, that was a joke, everyone. That was theres no studio audience laughing, no, theresing not going to be a Bloomberg Sanders ticket. Well be back after this break, when we come back, why federal judges think Donald Trumps interference in the Justice Department is an emergency. Well be joined by two of the 2000 former Justice Department officials who have now signed a letter saying attorney general william barr should resign. Thats next. whistling whistling they get that no two people are alike and customize your Car Insurance so you only pay for what you need. What do you think . I dont see it. Only pay for what you need. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Othroughout the country for the past twelve years, mr. 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And so the National Federal judges association, which represents more than 1,000 federal judges today, called for an emergency meeting tomorrow to address concerns about President Trumps interference in the administration of justice in the department of justice. Heres what william barr says about that. The president has never asked me to do anything in a criminal case. What about a civil case . The Justice Department has a massive civil condition what about an antitrust case . Was what donald trump publicly and privately asks the attorney general to do or tells the attorney general to do, reached the Emergency Point in a letter released yesterday has now been signed by over 2,000 former Justice Department officials. Each of us strongly condemns President Trumps interference in the department of justice. The letter calls or attorney general barr to resign. Although there are times when Political Leadership weighs in on individual prosecutions, its unheard of for the departments top leaders to overrule line prosecutors who are following established policies in order to give preferential treatment to a close associate. Of the president. As attorney general barr did in the roger stone case. They speak louder than his words, those actions and the damage they have done to the department of justices reputation for integrity and rule of law, require mr. Barr to resign. Joining me now, david lofton also with us, matt miller. The former spokes american for attorney general eric holder. Hes an msnbc contributocontrib. Let me get to the point the letter makes. For an attorney general to insert himself at this stage of the proceedings. But particularly one where the person being sentenced is a 30 year friend of the president of the United States . Lawrence, a couple days ago, i used the analogy that were at a break glass case for the federal government. Its unheard of for the attorney general to commandeer a case. The government took only 24 hours ago, on behalf of a political ally of the president. And thats why you saw an outcry from former department prosecutors and other officials, thats why youve seen an outcry from federal judges who, in an extraordinary move have called an emergency meeting of federal judges. The intervention by the attorney general is so peculiar because this final decision is up to a judge, the judge saw this happen, the judge watched this like the rest of us, and in effect both on tv and in the filings the judge has received. First a filing representing 7 to 9 years, then a filing recommending something less than that, whatever the judge thinks is fair. The idea that the attorney general felt that kind of change deserved his intervention is so strange in this case. Its absolutely strange. Unprecedented is another word for it, when i worked for air irk holder, i dont recall him ever getting involved when the department has gone to trial and won a case. Ags get involved in criminal cases all the time, on signing off on whether to bring a case. In approving plea negotiations, when the department has gone to court and won a case, indicted someone and won the case. The department trusts the people, the prosecutors who brought that case to be able to read the sentencing guidelines, which is exactly what happened here. Thats in any case. You add to that what you have in this case where it is a close political ally of the president who lets remember was convicted of lying to congress, basically to protect the president. When you have an ag get involved in that, its fairly obvious whats going on here. Thats why you see so many people from the department, the federal bench who are speaking up and saying this isnt the way its supposed to work. Unlike the way the departments and agencies work. Its not something enshrined in law or regulation. President s and attorneys general have either respected the need for an independent department or have been afraid of the political department. When you see a president and attorney general who dont respect that rule. I think its incumbent on everyone who understands how the system works to speak up and say something. Maybe at some point in their history. But certainly not about anything like this. Its quite telling. Federal prosecutors have a precious commodity. That is being ear roded now. How much faith can we put in what the government is el itting us, what position can we assume the gloeft is really taking . Is it going to be what you filed yesterday . What you filed yesterday. These are historic departures from norms that federal judges have got to be concerned about at least in politically sensitive cases. Everything david just said sounds like something the judge is going to say tomorrow in a scheduled Conference Call with the parties in this case. Yeah, im very curious to see what she does. Look, shes been fairly modest in the way shes handled this case from the beginning. There were a lot of times where people thought she was going to be tougher on roger stone, when he was violating the gag order. If this were the judge in the mike flynn case, i think you would expect him to haul all four line prosecutors in. Im not sure shes going to do that, but shes going to have the new line prosecutor case the there. The judges have great discretion in the courtroom. Why did the department change the opinion. They were the four people here trying this case in my courtroom. Ive gotten to know them. I think she will have a number of questions, and if she chooses to, she could go as far as calling the attorney himself. 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And he will be one of the moderators of wednesdays democratic debate here on msnbc. Im struck by all those numbers including 56 first time nevada caucus voters . That says to me the polling might not be very reliable this time. If theres a bunch of first time caucus voters who werent sure the caucus voters would show up. Its been pretty good. Remember she had a 25 point lead, though, and she almost lost. Listen, i think you can throw polling out the window pretty much, for a couple reasons, one is that statistic, which is a remarkable statistic, as you point out that 56 are early voters, but also, that massive turnout in early voting, there were huge lines again today, and i would guess with more sights tomorrow, the final day, that will be even bigger, but what does that really mean . How much of that is cannibalizing the actual attendance at the caucus, people dont want to go to a caucus, they want to go early vote, fill out the ballot. They dont want to go anything that may be a nightmare like that. How much of it is a sign of enthusiasm. With the new voters, with the campaigns driving there. Its the first i heard about it, theres a debate on wednesday. And so i think thats going to create excitement too, and you would agree, theres going to be more tension in that debate than there has been in the past, because of what these candidates are doing now, especially if bloomberg ends up being on that stage. I think the betting line now is that 80,000 could be eclipsed. We are throwing this poll out the window, because youve told us too, but were going to put it up on the screen before we throw it out the window, so people can see the general shape of things in nevada. Bernie sanders in the latest poll, down to Amy Klobuchar down to 10, one of the big numbers in the middle of that poll is unusual. Tom steyer up at 11. That has a lot to do with tom steyer spending 14 million in tv advertising, and other advertising in nevada, the next spender down from him is Bernie Sanders, huge gap there in terms of the spending. Yeah, i mean tom steyer is the most well known person in the state right now, but whether that translates into a good showing in the caucus, i dont think anybody knows. And im not necessarily saying you should throw all the polling results out the window. That poll is somewhat mirrored by another poll that came out and showed Bernie Sanders with a bigger lead. The conventional wisdom is, Bernie Sanders is well positioned to win the nevada caucus, i think why theyre not overly confident is because of what weve been talking about, weve never had early voting here before, we dont know what that means. Its only as good as how well it can model the turnout, right . We dont know whats going on. I think Bernie Sanders people are confident but not cocky about this, whats really interesting is the cluster below him, and that almost anybody could finish in second place, since joe biden is pouring a tremendous amount of resources in here at the last minute to try to right his sinking campaign, getting a lot of endorsements, doing a lot of appearances, trying to get the vote out, there is some sense that maybe, maybe he can get into second place here. The suspense could not be greater in nevada, because even john ralston doesnt know whats going do happen. Thank you very much for joining us tonight. Really appreciate it. When we come back, john bolton tonight said that two of the most important areas of trump Foreign Policy are a failure and a mistake. Thats next. [wood rolling] alexios, add toilet paper to the shopping list. [chiseling on stone] oh, and camel milk. And a chicken. And moisturizer. Alexa thanks, guys. Ill take it from here. 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When john bolton asked if Donald Trumps call with ukraine said, it was perfect, he said, youll love chapter 14 he repeatedly gave answers about that for his book, for which he was paid a multimillion dollar advance, and awaits the security clearance by the Trump Administration which left john bolton giving answers tonight like this. Id be happy to answer that question, except part of this is in the prepublication review of my book. Joining us now is ben rhodes. Ben, your reaction to john boltons comments tonight. I have two reactions. This guy could have told the country what he knew about what happened on that call with zelensky, what happened in the entire ukraine Corruption Scandal at any moment. Even if he wasnt called as a witness. He could have taken could have gone on your show, lawrence. He wants to profit off this book. At the same time, hes also telling us in his own words, this man who was the longest serving adviser for trump, trumps been a complete failure on his key Foreign Policy initiatives. Its been a failure that continues to build Nuclear Weapons despite this diplomacy hes been engaged in. Hes been a failure in iran. Its been a failure in standing up for democratic values. John bolton in his own words is revuling that the emperor has had no clothes. Hes been very objective in the lines set. John bolton refused to testify in the inquiry in the house of representatives when colonel venman and others in the same position as john bolton did testify, including people like colonel vinman who were still employed. Bolton was a private citizen, could have done it. And then bolton decides from out of nowhere, im willing to testify in the senate trial, he was pretty sure he wasnt going to have to. Heres what he said tonight about the ukraine issues. This is as far as he would go. He said, for all the focus on ukraine and the impeachment trial, and all that, for me, there are portions of the manuscript that deal with u crane, i view that like the sprinkles on the ice cream sundae, in terms of whats in the book. Ben, this is the book tour for the book that doesnt exist yet. Yeah. This is a guy who seems motivated above all by profit. And frankly weve seen this in a lot of trump people who have left and written books. And heres the reality, lawrence. Like american democracy is on the ballot in this upcoming year, and weve had people like bolton, like rex tillerson, like jim mattis, like john kelly, who walked out of that white house, and they know a lot. They know a lot that they havent told us yet. They know a lot that hasnt even been in the books theyve written. Frankly between now and the election, i would like to see these people lay this out for the American People so we can know whats going on in our government because the glimpse weve gotten is not pretty. Its an unprecedented level of corruption. Its an unprecedented level of the president abusing his office for his own personal interest. John bolton keeps indicating that he knows that happened and that hes going to tell us in his book. What i would like to see more of these people do is what vindman had the courage to do, the guts to do, not for profit, but because it was right, because it was morally the right thing to do. It was ethically the right thing to do. He went through legal channels and he told the American People what he knew. We need more voices like that between now and november. Ben rhodes, Deputy National security adviser in the obama administration, thank you very much for joining us tonight. Really appreciate it. Thanks, lawrence. When we come back, the great Sports Writer rick reilly gave us an invaluable perspective on donald trump, commander in cheat, how golf explains trump. 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Most of the government money spent on Donald Trumps trips to golf courses is paid to donald trump because he always plays golf at properties that his company owns, so the secret service has to pay donald trump to rent all those golf carts to protect donald trump and pay donald trump for hotel rooms at Donald Trumps golf resorts for the secret service and others in the president s massive traveling party. And so democratic president ial Campaign Commercials should include donald trump telling lies about his golf courses like this four years ago when he was running for president. If i were in the white house, i dont think id ever see turnberry again. I dont think id ever see doral again. I own doral in miami. I dont think id see many of the places i have. I dont think id see anything. I just want to stay in the white house and work my ass off, make great deals, right . Whos going to leave . Joining us now is neera tanden, former Senior Adviser to president obama and hillary clinton. Neera, thank you very much for joining us tonight. I mean it. Golf is serious stuff in the way this president has done it. Its the most easily explained of the trump cash scandals in the trump white house. Mmhmm. Absolutely. I mean the fact that he essentially plays golf all the time at his own resorts where he makes the secret service pay for him and other government officials, basically pay basically into his pocket, and that turns out to be far, far more than what would otherwise be his salary is another way in which hes used the government as essentially a personal slush fund. There is one candidate so far whos gone after golf. It shouldnt be a surprise to anyone who this is. Lets listen to this. People have said, when you were mayor, the city gave trump a contract to operate a golf course. Yes, thats true. But he was the only bidder, and running a golf course is the only job that i would hire him for. Neera, it takes a lot of money to decide that within everything you want to do in your Campaign Advertising and in terms of advancing your own message and your own policies, you want to devote some of that money to going after donald trump on golf. Bloomberg certainly has the money to do that. Well, i mean i think he can be a little he doesnt need to be so discriminating when he has that much money, but i think the point is that golf and the amount of golf he plays is an actual humorous point, particularly after he criticized barack obama for golfing so much when in comparison, barack obama golfed so little compared to donald trump. But i think the most important part of this is the corruption element. It is the issue in which the president is essentially President Trump is actually essentially profiting off of playing golf. Most of us would find that hard to do, but a con man very rarely does. One of the things about the bloomberg campaign, if hes not the nominee, which at this point in the polling seems likely, what hes promised to do is spend a massive amount of advertising, which would basically be aimed at donald trump. His ads are very clever, very smart. He would clearly include this and include that clip of trump saying, you know, i wont be playing golf when im president. We would definitely see that in a bloombergpaidfor ad in the general election. I definitely hope so. I think one of the most important things is to really be able to laugh at donald trump and to be able to call out his insecurities. I think trump is essentially a narcissist. Hes very insecure, and Mike Bloomberg has been able to get under his skin, as have several other candidates. And so i look forward to that. Neera tanden gets tonights last word. Neera, thank you very much for joining us. Really appreciate it. Thanks for having me. The 11th hour with Brian Williams starts now. Tonight on this president s day holiday, the current president takes his postimpeachment powers out for a spin even as a court prepares the next phase in the case of his old friend and convicted felon roger stone. And just tonight, john bolton has broken his silence on at least more stories from the inside. Plus the transformation of the modern Justice Department and the colossal number of former feds, now over 2,000 of them, who are calling on this attorney general to resign. And as for the democrats, as they race to make sure the nevada caucuses look nothing like