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Out about those who have been removed to different hospitals, and other people have no information and are trying to find out if their family members are still buried under the rubble. The emergency crews are not really sure of the numbers. They suspect other people are still inside the ruins somewhere. And obviously theres still an active search and rescue operation going on, but is there any thinking any theory as to what happened and what caused the explosion . Well this type of liquid gas is very unstable. Its used in many places in mexico in homes where you bring in these trucks and you put in a tube which takes this liquid gas into the house. Now, somehow that exploded. Its not obvious how that happened, but its not uncommon. There are a history of accidents. There are quite unstable installations and infrastructure around the gas use in mexico. All right. Thank you very much. And we will continue to follow this story and bring you any new developments as they come in. Meanwhile, the isisimposed deadline for the country of jordan to turn over a convicted terrorist has expired. The Group Calling itself the Islamic State was demanding that the jordanians hand over alrashawi, a 46yearold woman convicted in the bombing of a wedding reception that killed 57 people or risk the execution of a jordanian pilot that isis is holding hostage. Jordan says they wont release rashawi unless a pilot and a japanese hostage, kenji goto are released. Lets bring in the Senior Analyst for flash point global partners. So first of all, the trade that is being requested now by isis is this unprecedented in the way that theyve operated before . Well indeed. As a matter of fact, to the best of our knowledge, the first time isis specifically demands a ransom for the release of hostages. We know back when they had european hostages they negotiated secret deals with a number of european countries. They were able to gain millions of dollars. But they were not as much as the 200 million ransom that theyre demanding openly now. I mean this is the same exact amount of money that japanese authorities pledged to the u. S. Led coalition to combat the Islamic State. So now we know that the jordanian information minister has confirmed to the official press agency a few things. Negotiations with isis is conditional upon providing proof that the jordanian pilot is alive that the jordanian government did request that proof of life and has not received it, and that there is confirmation that this iraqi attempted suicide bomber whose husband actually committed the bombing of that wedding, is still in jordan and that any prisoner swap would have to be for the pilot and the japanese hostage as we said before. Any word out of jordan as to whether they are continuing to actively negotiate or whether or not any money might change hands. Well, look, jordan is obviously leading this effort on behalf of the japanese government to release, of course, both the pilot and the japanese hostage. We know the deadline has expired. We dont know if any of these hostages had been executed but we know that isis has given a specific deadline. Were afraid that deadline has been met. Im afraid its probably already too late unless some secret negotiations has taken place between the jor danedanian government that we are not privy of. All right. Thank you very much. Well just keep following this. Thank you. Now to capitol hill where at this moment a senate panel is conducting its second day of confirmation hearings for eric holders successor as attorney general. The nominee, Loretta Lynch, testified wednesday without too many fireworks from the goprun panel. Today it was republican and democratic witness turns in it the moderately hot seat. Like yesterday, the inquiries had less to do with the nominee and more to do with the man she hopes to replace. The reputation of this Great Department is being eroded. The situation is not good in this country. Its got to be reestablished. Were not going to allow this to become a political body that just conducts its work in haphazard, political, reactive ways. Nbcs Kelly Odonnell joins me live from capitol hill. Kelly, give us the highlights of this hearing today. Did it appear that there was a posture that was decidedly already against Loretta Lynch, or is she getting a warmish reception . Well, shes getting a lot of praise, even from those who are most likely not to vote for her. Praise for her record her academic background her personal life her service to the country. All of those things. In fact words like exemplary have been used. The real issue is much more about what has evolved into an almost seminar about the role of the attorney general. Less about Loretta Lynch as a person, more about the direction of that Agency Within the government and what the role should be. Today hearing from constitutional experts who are again talking about did the president exceed his authority on a matter like immigration. One of the frustrations from members of the panel, which happens at a lot of confirmation hearings, is when senators who are doing the questioning want to know specific answers to sometimes hypothetical questions. Well, for lawyers, thats sort of stock and trade. They do that all the time. But for a person whos appointed or nominated to become the next attorney general, that can be a trouble spot because you dont want to get locked into certain answers before youve been able to review all the specifics. So Loretta Lynch was reluctant to do that on some issues and thats still being talked about today. Shes not present today. Some of her Sorority Sisters have been showing up to support her and to be just a part of the presence of the room. But what were seeing now is that the likelihood is that she will, in fact, be confirmed as the next steps roll by. Those who have been most critical are the senators we did not expect to support her in the beginning. Names like ted cruz and jeff session. Their line of argument raises the most questions. The big issue for republicans is will the department of justice be different under Loretta Lynch than it has been under eric holder. She says shell run it her own way and well have to see if thats enough of a satisfactory answer for them. Yeah i have to imagine that the desire to have eric holder not be the attorney general might actually be in her favor, even with republicans. Good way to look at it. I want to do a quick change of direction. There is expected to be a vote today on the keystone pipeline, which the president has promised to veto if it gets to his desk. Explain whats happening on that score, kelly. Well now that republicans control the senate this was their number one priority to get this bill passed. They say it will foster some jobs and its good for the economy and there are bipartisan senators who have supported this. So today a critical phase. The senate expects to have full passage on this within the hour after lots of amendments. We saw nine Democrats Join with republicans today at one of the key procedural steps. Still, not enough to override a veto, but this is an Important Message from congress to the white house saying members of congress in both party, although predominantly republican, want to see this passed. Its a challenge to the president s authority to use his veto. Todays a critical step in that showdown. Very quickly f this goes through, you would have the house have to try to pass the senate bill. Yes. Because the senate has changed it a bit. So then theres another sometimes a very quick process where they get the two chambers on the same page. That hasnt happened yet. But expect that they would work something out. The real message will be will the president follow through on his veto . We expect that he will. So its kind of a check match point. Absolutely. That veto override vote. Thats going to be very dramatic. Thank you very much, Kelly Odonnell. Appreciate it. All right. Meanwhile, House Democrats ares in philadelphia for day two of their annual retreat. Tonight president obama speaks to the house caucus as democrats try to coalesce around an agenda for the next two years while also deliberating which city will host their 2016 convention. Nbcs luke russert joins me now live from philadelphia. Brooklyn, then ill just say nothing more and allow you to talk about what theyre discussing over there besides brooklyn being the host of the convention, luke. Well joy, i would say columbus myself which would probably get me in trouble here in philadelphia. We can report that Debbie Wasserman schultz toured philadelphia yesterday. We so far have heard that she enjoyed what she saw. That being said democrats are here at a retreat, and they are a beleaguered, wounded minority. They have the smallest number of seats theyve had in the house since the 1920s. One of the things theyre trying to do here is figure out a better messaging campaign for them to try to win backseats seats in 2015. They think they can make a real run, especially if Hillary Clinton is the top of the ticket, by trying to focus on a message of growing the economy by growing the middle class. Thats what they really want to do. President obama is going to come here to philadelphia tonight to address the House Democratic caucus. Hell obviously give them a pep rally. Joe biden comes tomorrow. The thing to watch with president obama, joy, hes going to really make the point about the department of Homeland Security not being funded after february 27th. And republicans want to continue to fight the president about the issue of immigration, and they want something in return for funding the department of Homeland Security. The president says to do it cleanly. Watch democrats come out of this retreat fighting on the issue of National Security. Thats uncommon territory for democrats to really take in and be outspoken about. Theyre going to say theyre the party of National Security after this because republicans want to play games with Homeland Security funding over immigration in light of what happened in paris and as well as the amount of Dangerous Things that could come about if the department of Homeland Security is in the allowed to be funded. Theyre really boosted by the fact that two former Republican Department of Homeland Security secretaries wrote a letter today saying dont let that funding expire. So important, joy. Very interesting. Thank you very much nbcs luke russert. And coming up unintended consequences and diplomatic provocations. Well discuss how an inyourface move by House Speaker john boehner and israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu backfired. Plus, more on the hearing happening now on capitol hill for Loretta Lynch. Well look at the work ahead for her if and when Congress Approves her nomination. Thoughtfully crafted and intelligently designed. With available forward collision warning and new blind spot monitor and a 2014 top safety pick plus rating. Cost of entry . A fortune. Until now. Hey sarah, new jetta . Yup. Can i check it out . Maybe at halftime . Introducing lots of new. The new volkswagen jetta. Isnt it time for german engineering . 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It was a different situation yesterday when the israeli army fired artillery across the border into lebanon in response to an attack on Israeli Military vehicles by the militant group hezbollah. Two Israeli Soldiers and a United Nations peace keeper were killed in the ek change of fire. The border crisis comes as israels Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu prepares for a controversial trip to the United States. The Prime Minister accepted an invitation from House Republicans to address a joint session of congress in february. The Obama Administration was not informed of the unusual invitation and the president will very pointedly not meet with netanyahu during his u. S. Visit. The thread that tied these events together is iran. And for more on the crisis on the ground and its implications lets bring in steve clemens, washington editor at large for the atlantic, and an msnbc contributor. Very quickly, explain for those who have not following all this drama what iran has to do with all the machinations over netanyahus visit. Right now the president of the United States and what we call the p5 plus one, the permanent members of the United Nations in germany are work on a deal with iran that would take theng them off the nuclear track where they wanted to be and make it nonnuclear down the road. Its a fragile process that could change the way global gravity works. Right now there was a suspicion of the president s plans, and john boehner issued an invitation to Prime Minister netanyahu, who has very big interests in opposing this deal to come in and speak in congress, both to try and derail that deal. At the same time hes running and his party is running for election just a week and a half after the date which he would speak for congress. So this is filled with political drama. And the president and white house have not officially taken exception to this. Theyre not going to meet netanyahu. The chief of staff said, you know, we can all live beyond this. But beneath that layer, theres an awful lot of consternation with netanyahu and john boehner. And lets talk about the angle with hezbollah, these hostilities across the border with lebanon. Hezbollah being a group that is heavily sponsored by iran. The Prime Minister netanyahu, blaming hezbollah for these hostilities between them saying its iran thats potential for yesterdays attack against us from lebanon. This is the same iran thats now trying to achieve an agreement via the major powers, et cetera. Now even trying to use this military adventure or excursion thats happened between the two of them at yet another lever against making a deal. Well israel is expected to have been behind attack recently in syria. They havent officially accepted responsibility for it. That probably knocked out a major shipment of missiles from syria to hezbollah that it would then use against israel. In that an iranian general was killed. So in israels very complicated, intense neighborhood when it does take actions to protect its own security and things like this happen it often leads to a titfortat problem wereith its neighbors. I think israel is right to look at its security. Iran was involved. But at the same time, iran issued a release and said israel has crossed a line in doing this. So they have problems. But i think to link all of these things together to talk about taking iran off of its Nuclear Weapons course and moving it into a different direction is a different layer of strategic opportunity than what may be going on at the local level. Yeah and i think the thing thats alarming to a lot of people is not everybody agrees that would be an unambiguously good deal to make. Thank you very much steve clemens. Thanks joy. Now i want to turn to lynn sweet, the Washington Bureau chief at the chicago sun times. You have this interesting dilemma for democrats, who are also very have proisrael but who now have this question of do they support the president , whos trying to make an Historic Deal with iran, or do they kind of go along with this move by john boehner . How do you think the democrats are going to fall on this snshissue . Well, i think we know a lot of whats going on. Just a few hours ago in the Republicanled Senate banking committee, joy, the main iran sanctions bill advanced but democrats demanded as part of their deal of going along of not having a vote until march 24th. Let me just stress this. The objective is the same from the white house to congress. The objective is to make iran a nonnuclear power. They want to make sure that the country does not have the ability to threaten global security, especially israel. So the objective is the same. I think the politics are that the netanyahu visit is very provocative. He didnt Speaker Boehner didnt even inform as a courtesy of the white house or democratic leader pelosi. Unilateral moves like that when you make them in a situation like this joy, you know youre going to get some backlash. Boehner didnt care. Now, the proponents of the tougher iran sanctions bills think that this is going to help get more votes for them when this matter is voted on sometime at the end of march. If there is no deal reached in these negotiations in europe as steve mentioned. No one really thinks a deal will be made by then. Thats kind of the politics of it. In a sense, everybody is on the same page that there will be tougher sanctions in theres no deal. The Obama Administration wants more time to make that deal. Of course you have even elements inside israel saying no, if you do the sanctions first, youre going to scuttle the deal. Its kind of counterintuitive. I want to play you some really very definitive opinions and sound coming from former ambassador Nicolas Burns. He had some very strong feelings about the propriety of this invitation to netanyahu. Take a listen. All around, bad decision. I havent seen anything like it in decades of observing life in washington between congress and executive branch. Its always difficult to balance, andrea as you well know where does Congress Role fit with the executives and Foreign Policy . Clearly you cannot have 535 members of congress in effect trying to negotiate on iran. In addition to that lynn youve had some democrats, including Keith Ellison of minnesota, send a letter to Speaker Boehner and nancy pelosi some out and say it was inappropriate. You have a mini rebellion coming out in the house. And you have someone like Nicolas Burns saying this is unprecedented. In diplomacy, this is not how you do it. It is how many ways youve just said it not the way to go when you deal with foreign leaders and when you deal with when youre this close to the israeli election, as steve had mentioned. The move by Speaker Boehner was unnecessarily provocative. Prime minister netanyahu has addressed joint sessions of congress before. Hes no stranger to washington. Hes here on a regular basis to come to apec conferences. He is a familiar face of all the World Leaders that people can identify in the United States. I would think he is one that a lot of people know about. So he and his ambassador, new ambassador knew that they would trigger this. Its a calculation they made and i think theres always been a story over how the u. S. How president obama and Prime Minister netanyahu have to work to have a relationship. Sometimes things get frosty. I just dont see how in the big picture you can say that this unilateral move necessarily is as helpful as Speaker Boehner thinks in winning the sanctions, if by chance it means democrats peel off in the senate. Indeed. Lots more intrigue. Well definitely keep following it. Thank you, lynn. Still ahead on the reid report, how can the community and police begin to work on healing deep old wounds if forums designed to do just that end like this . Check it out im sending a tweet. Tweet thats not how it works, grandpa. You think i am out of touch. I saved 15 percent on Car Insurance in just 15 minutes. You couldve saved money in half that time with esurance. wings flapping ah, a reply. Im trending 15 minutes for a quote is old news. Start with a quote from esurance and you could save money on Car Insurance in half the time. Welcome to the modern world. Esurance. Backed by allstate. Click or call. [ narrator ] mama sherman and the legion of super fans. 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Louis Police Officers association shouted at the chairman to get the meeting under control. Seconds later, protesters yelled back. People left the meeting earlier. Ive been at a lot of crazy meetings, but never one this crazy. Im disappointed in anyone who stood up and yelled. Reporter the hearing was to hear testimony on a proposed bill to create a Police Civilian review board. The group would hear complaints about police actions, be able to review evidence from internal Affairs Investigations and evaluate police policies. What citizens want especially in the wake of what weve seen in st. Louis in the last few months is a new level of accountability. Reporter but the st. Louis Police Officers Association Says the way the current bill is worded is unfair and disregards an officers right to due process. Its guilty until proven innocent plain and simple. Who wants to be the next darren wilson, hung in effigy in the town square because of defending his life . Our thanks to Christina Coleman from st. Louis affiliate ksdk. And several more meetings will take place before a final vote on the proposed bill. So as the issue in st. Louis and nationwide is not just who will police the police but how hard will Police Unions fight against oversight . Rashad robinson is the executive director of color of change. He joins me now. The meeting that happened in st. Louis where there was this attempt to create the civilian oversight board, you saw in the audience a lot of people came out to support the police. They wore the green shirts. Something interesting also happened with the man you saw quoted at the end who represents the police as their spokesman. He came wearing a wristband. It was an i am david wilson wristband. He reportedly shoved a woman, an africanamerican come, during the proceeding. You can see in that picture hes wearing that wristband to a meeting that is about civilian oversight. A very provocative way to walk into a meeting about potentially working together. Absolutely. What were seeing here in st. Louis, what were seeing in new york with these sort of back and forth clashes between Police Officer unions and the community is a sign that sort of progress were at this moment of cultural presence where the larger public sees that something has to be done but the Police Unions and larger Police Culture has not had the type of oversight for years thats necessary to keep all of us safe. And so were going to see some pushback from the Police Unions. Unfortunately both in st. Louis and new york theyre not doing themselves any service. Good Police Officers need the type of things that were putting on the table so that the community can have a greater sense of trust a greater sense that justice is going to be served. Reason magazine had a really good piece where they cited a local paper of baltimore where they actually also had one of these meetings about creating civilian oversight. The takeaways from this meeting were two. One, police stop citizens on the street thousands of times a year, but they do not have any usable data. Two, police are skeptical of anyone who complains about them, but they really, really want to earn our trust. The idea meaning that police even resist the notion that civilians should be able to even check what they do. Right now we have a system where police can police themselves. Theres no incentive for us to get the type of data for us to have the type of transparency necessary to see how our tax dollars are being used to see if theyre being use the effectively, to see if police are solving the crime and dealing with communities in a respectful manner. To solve the type of crimes that are actually happening in our community, bring communities together. What were calling for at color of change are common sense approaches that provide the type of data and transparency and oversight to our tax dollars. The type of things necessary, right, so that communities can trust Law Enforcement and Law Enforcement has the ability to do their jobs. Youre going to be testifying tomorrow in washington at a task force that the president has put together in the a. G. About this issue and about the recommendations that groups like color of change has. Lets talk about what you think can change and be done at the federal level, state level, and the local level. In particular, were concentrating because the president has called this commission, and theres folks from the national and local level part of this commission. Some of the things that can be done is right now we have no National Data base on police killings. Local Law Enforcement do have to report it but theres no real teeth behind forcing them to do it. And theres also no searchable database for us to get the type of information to have some sharing between whats happening in los angeles versus whats happening in new york versus whats happening in albuquerque. We need that type of information, the type of transparency. We created an interactive map based on the data that is available, which isnt very good, at a website we created called killedbycops. Just to start having that conversation. But the federal government needs to track this so they can do a better job. So much of our tax dollars goes into local communities. Theres no matrix right now on usable force. How Law Enforcements are using force, when theyre using force, how were tracking that. These are all of our tax dollars going into communities with no data coming back anon how these problems are affecting us. Between the back and forth or above the back and forth between communities and Law Enforcement, we dont have the information necessary. There are a number of things people can go to colorofchange. Org and find the information were putting on the table. But all of these things are common sense approaches that can be done by the president at the federal level that get us closer to having the type of policing in our communities. They dont do everything but get us the type of policing we need. Absolutely. And i think people deserve. This is a Governmental Agency the police. They are accountable and should be to the public. Rashad robinson color of change thank you very much for being here. And after this weeks blizzard, the northeast is getting ready for another blast of wintry weather. A Winter Weather advisory takes effect at midnight in parts of massachusetts. And we are four to six inches of snow expected in new york connecticut, maine, and New Hampshire and also for brutal cold temperatures. The weather channels carl parker has more. Hi joy. Weve got a little clipper on the way. Along with that, there could be several inches of snow in a pretty large area and right on top of where we just got so much know from the last big storm. Here is the forecast model showing you that snow coming into the northeast early tomorrow. There will be some wet weather in southeast new england around boston and then light snow but the low is going to get a lot stronger going into late friday. The snow will linger across eastern new england in particular. So right around maine, New Hampshire, thats where were talking about several inches of snow. Then behind that more snow on the way for the northeast on monday. The reid report continues after the break. Its our slow simmered vegetables and tender white meat chicken. Apology accepted. Im watching you soup people. Make it progresso or make it yourself introducing danceallyou want bladder leak protection. New always discreet underwear for sensitive bladders from always, the experts in feminine protection. 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If Loretta Lynch is confirmed by the senate shell become the first black woman to be attorney general of the United States. And she will inherit a job that has become ground zero for some of the most contentious political battles of the Obama Administration from immigration to policing to the right to vote. Just listen to how several confirmation hearing witnesses invited by gop senators today described the man she hopes to replace, eric holder. The incendiary rhetoric used by eric holder created a false pathway for rallies cries. Im one of the thousands of americans who have become, sadly, living examples of this kind of trickledown tyranny thats actively endorsed by the Current Administration and rig rigorously enforced by the department of justice. A Law School Professor at the university of maryland and president and director of the naacp Legal Defense fund, which is engaged directly in some of these important legal battles. Trickledown tyranny is apparently happening with eric holder there. First of all, comment on this narrative were starting to see in the lynch nominations. Just dont be eric holder. This was fully expected. And thats partly because, and i think actually senator schumer said it yesterday, her record is so impeccable, so stellar, so unassailable that it was very clear there wasnt much hay to be made. I think everyone expected that largely this would be a kind of performance piece about eric holder. As a matter of fact, at some point i tweeted very early on in senator grassleys opening remarks the first times the words fast and furious were said because we knew what the conversation would be. Even senator cornyn. We challenged the case of texass voter i. D. Law, and we won. So to hear senator cornyn and to hear this representative try and paint in some way holders record on voting as anything other than, you know, heroic courageous, and important, was distressing but completely expected. And there was really nothing for lynch to say. It was just a series of statements. When you say performance piece, i say ted cruz. So ted cruz had some things to say. This was really more about, again, not about Loretta Lynch, but their feelings toward the Obama Administration. Lets listen. Actually, ill do the ted cruz imitation. She has now explit sitly embraced the president s unconstitutional action. She could not give any instance on the president s limit of authority. This more is about immigration. So the notion being that do you see a change in the weather . Even if you have a different person in the body o of the attorney general but they still are trying to support things like Voting Rights theyre not standing in the way of policies political policies that republicans dont like. Well you cant expect this attorney general first of all, is going to in some way, you know, deny the legacy of attorney general holder or of this president. The specific question that was asked was about the president s executive action in november regarding deportation, which most legal scholars will tell you clearly falls within the authority of the president and has been done by many president s before this president. So this is kind of a nonissue but once again, it was part of the performance and the pageantry. What was really interesting to me, joy, was the one question that she answered unequivocally that didnt get a lot of attention that was really important. It was the question about water boarding and whether its torture. She was asked, is water boarding torture . She said, yes. And is it illegal . She said yes. People should remember that when attorney general nominee was before the Senate Judiciary committee and he was asked whether water boarding was torture, he said i first have to go in and see what weve done first. So to me this moment of her unequivocally saying that water boarding was torture and essentially saying that any conduct of engaging in water boarding is illegal, thats a real shift and a really important moment for people who have been working on this issue for a very long time for the dignity and integrity of this country in the larger community. And that kind of went by the wayside. I thought that was a critically important moment. I want to get in one other piece, allowing us to hear Loretta Lynch in her own words. Another important comment she made was on this issue of policing, which we were just talking about. Lets listen to ms. Lynch yesterday. Few things have pained me more than the recent reports of tension and division between Law Enforcement and the communities we serve. If confirmed as attorney general, one of my key priorities would be to work to strengthen the vital relationships between our courageous Law Enforcement personnel and all of the communities we serve. Of course we heard that other sound bite of the gentleman who got up and accused eric holder of somehow fostering antipolice rhetoric. How could Loretta Lynch attempt to move things forward in a way that would not alienate the Law Enforcement officers that are, you know, work with the department of justice . One of the things she said immediately following the clip we just heard was that one of the key powers of the department of justice is the grant program, the money that they give to Police Jurisdictions all over this country. And, you know, we have maintained the Legal Defense fund that this is a powerful tool that the federal government has to actually incentivize a positive relationships between the police and the community and incentivize some of the things weve been talking about data collection, the use of body worn cameras. So i think thats a window into what might be a helpful way for the department of justice to promote that relationship. Yeah and i think there are a lot of people in the country who feel that the current attorney general has done a lot to hearten people that there is an attorney general that actually advocates for the ordinary person. Absolutely. We hope that she continues in that tradition. All right. Very interesting to watch. Thank you very much for being here. And turning now to the 2016 president ial race, keeping track of just who is and who isnt running is getting more and more complicated. Luckily, tonight at 8 00 p. M. On msnbc, theres an allin 2016 fantasy candidate draft. I myself will join chris hayes as one of the five political expert contestants who get to select draft picks for my roster of 25 count them 25 potential candidates for president of the United States. Dont miss it tonight at 8 00 p. M. Eastern right here on msnbc. Has the power to captivate. Thats why shakira uses. 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